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Kirin
07-13-2011, 09:53 AM
So, I have no idea if there's enough interest to sustain a thread on making or assembling models, but what the hell, I'll give it a shot.

I recently finished putting together a 200-odd piece High Grade model of the Gundam Unicorn (from the new UC series) in Destroy Mode, which means it's all shiny and shit. Came out looking pretty nice.

http://i.imgur.com/Z1e9Vl.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/7H9UWl.jpg

A cool thing about this kit is since it's a modern kit and pretty much all white and translucent red, it looks fine without any paint, which is more than you can say for most Gundam models.


Because this was the first time I'd gotten around to putting together a kit in... uh, a few years, I did a warm-up in the form of a much smaller kit for an old series (it's a Jenice Custom from Gundam X) that I got for free. Since it's an old kit molded mostly from flat green (including a lot of bits that are supposed to be other colors) it looks like crap without paint, so I busted out the paint-markers and did a bit of outlining and filling. Kind of half-assed it since I didn't really care about it, but it looks a lot better. (Sadly didn't get a "before" pic.)

http://i.imgur.com/s6r5gl.jpg

Glass Knuckle
07-13-2011, 10:31 AM
I finally decided to try one of these for the first time at the last anime convention I went to, and it's pretty fun. I've only seen the original Gundam series and I don't have much attachment to most of the characters/robots, but I do like Char from both that and the fighting game so I picked up a model of his red Zaku.

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/gundam-char-zaku-01.jpg

It's the Bandai one with the internal skeleton, which according to someone who knows about these is the best one I could have picked for that character, and I believe it. The articulation is just amazing. I'm not a craft person so I'd never try to paint it or anything, but it doesn't look like I'd need to anyway.


I also picked these up a few days ago since Mega Man is just about my favorite thing ever and the only figures I had were a smaller set that came out recently.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vBCSLbKJ7nI/TUs4vBOH6pI/AAAAAAAAGP0/CGC6RKCGSzM/s1600/180525

I'm not too happy with the way some of their joints are designed and there's a few random things that require paint for no good reason, but they look fine anyway.

Kirin
07-13-2011, 02:21 PM
Yeah, as far as painting goes, *modern* high-grade and up kits are usually modeled in enough (and accurate enough) colors that you don't *need* to paint them to have them look good. (You might be able to make some *better*, and of course you can customize with weathering and stuff, but that's only if you're really good and/or dedicated.)

Older/cheap-o kits, by contrast, will look exactly like the cheap plastic crap they are without paint, but can often be salvaged into something quite acceptable with it. This is the main reason why I have a lot of older kits sitting in my closet, because dragging out (or buying) and applying paint is such a bigger investment of effort...

Rai
07-13-2011, 06:29 PM
Love the Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 going on in the background of the first pic. That actually introduced me to the Unicorn in motion. Before I saw it, I wasn't a fan of all the pink in Destroy mode, but after seeing it in action, I think it looks pretty sweet. That's a nice looking model too, I'll have to see about finding it somewhere.

I also actually put together my first Gundam recently! Specifically the RX-78-2 and Char's Zaku II, both Real Grade. They're fairly impressive, and I took an exhaustive number of photos of the process of putting it all together. I was considering running it as a blog post at my new place, but I'll make sure to throw in some pictures here now that I'm done with them.

Out of curiosity, how do you get the tiny stickers on properly? They're entirely too small for me to really put on with my hands, at least at 1/144 scale.

Kirin
07-14-2011, 10:38 AM
Love the Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 going on in the background of the first pic. That actually introduced me to the Unicorn in motion.

Hah, well spotted. Actually, one of my impetuses for putting these kits together was having something to do while my wife commandeered my PS3 for months due to that game. I'm pretty sure she's over 75 hours on it already, and hasn't even unlocked all the history missions.

Out of curiosity, how do you get the tiny stickers on properly? They're entirely too small for me to really put on with my hands, at least at 1/144 scale.

Yeah, those get tricky. On my second Unicorn photo you can see some tiny ones on the eyes and forehead, and there's an even smaller one in the gun-sight facing the camera. For getting them into position, I don't have a lot of tips other than hope and prayer, and be careful not to apply pressure until you've got it in the spot you like. Having slightly-long fingernails helps, or you might be able to use tweezers if you're very careful. Once it's in position, use something narrow to press it down hard so it won't move again - I actually used some bits broken off the leftover plastic frame pieces since they were handy.

Now what's *really* finicky are the old-style "float off the sheet in water" decals; the Gundam X kit came with some of those that I haven't been brave enough to mess with yet. I doubt they still use them in any modern kits, though.


And by all means, post us some RX-78 and Zaku pics!

Glass Knuckle
07-14-2011, 11:54 AM
I somehow managed to get the eye on Char's Zaku attached without incident, but I terrified to attempt any of the other stickers yet. Again, I'm not that much of a Gundam fan, so to me it looks just fine without them. I'll probably just leave them off for now unless one of the people I know who's familiar with these things nerds out over it and offers to do it himself. I also haven't finished the weapons yet; he's just sitting in the box with his accessories until I figure out where I'm going to put him.

I'm kind of torn over these in general since on the one hand, this is the most impressively articulated figure I own and was a lot of fun to put together, but on the other I have zero interest or experience in painting things or messing with decals, so I'd hate to put a bunch of money into a larger one only to find that it looks like crap unless I do so. Honestly though, the only other mechs from Gundam that I'd like to have are the Hygog and the Ball (from playing Battle Assault), and I don't even know if there are models for those. I'm sure there are plenty of model kits for other things too, but I haven't seen any for things I like aside from the Mega Man ones.

Also, while not strictly a model kit, there's a D-Arts Mega Man X figure released recently that's just amazing. He's fully assembled, but comes with multiple faces, hands, and shots. I'll post some pictures of him and the others if you're interested.

Traumadore
07-14-2011, 12:17 PM
I have a Hygog. It's pretty sweet. Almost makes me want to go dig it out of the box it's in somewhere. At least I hope it didn't get lost in the move...

kaisel
07-14-2011, 12:31 PM
My crowning joy is probably a Master Grade Hyaku-Shiki, that's laying around my parents' house most likely, that my wife put together. Have a couple Heavyarms from Wing, a couple of High Grade models from 8th Team, and a Gundam X Divider that's seen better days (didn't help that was around the time where the model quality was pretty mediocre), and an HG Hyaku Shiki as well.

I like putting 'em together but I'm not particularly good at it, both slow and careless. My wife's currently working on a Master Grade Wing Zero Custom, since she likes putting together models more than I do (she did the MG Hyaku-Shiki actually). This thread's making me want to hit up the local comic shop, since for a while at least, they've had models on sale.

Rai
07-14-2011, 02:22 PM
Right, so, these were my first two models, but I like that they turned out as well as they did. Because of picture size, and my not having any of my photo editing software available for the time being, I'll just do these one at a time. First up, the absolute first model I put together, the RX-78-2 Gundam Real Grade.

http://i.imgur.com/xeYJ4.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/YsGW4.jpg

I actually picked it up on a whim at Disney World, believe it or not. The Japan store there has an amazing selection. Problem one with this set, however, were the instructions. Namely that they were in Japanese. Now, for 90% of the kit, this wasn't a huge problem. After all, they use pictograms like Ikea does, so all I had to do was orient the piece like how it was shown in the instruction and then attach. Easy peasy.

That said, there are certain parts where I'm sure I'm missing something. Namely, the shoulders and arms. It's crazy easy to knock the arms off the model, and the shoulder pads themselves are made up of pieces that are very loosely held together. If it didn't just look wrong, I'd completely remove the blasted things and call it good. Another problem with the kit lies in the waist armor. The bits with the yellow squares are held in by a small ball socket, which allows for a great range of motion. However, I'm not sure that that's ideal on a 1/144 scale, because it's pretty easy to knock them out completely (Char's Zaku shares the same problem, and I've actually got more grievances with that model).

Additionally, while the model has a huge range of motion theoretically, to really achieve that one should exercise each of the joints a lot, get the arms and legs used to moving. I was not aware of this, and I just put it together immediately. This has led to the Gundam being incredibly stiff, and I'm afraid to move it in case I knock certain, very tiny pieces, off.

That said, I'm actually really impressed with the coloring. I've heard horror stories about plastics looking off, but pretty much everything here was good, and put together it looks really accurate to the anime. I think the decals would add a lot, but after getting one on (See if you can find it!), I decided that was more pain than I really wanted to deal with. Honestly, most of the decals were just for the magnetic joints that were added later in the series anyway, so I'm perfectly ok without.

http://i.imgur.com/Q6HeT.jpg

The extras are sweet as well. There are four beam saber handles, two of which can be wielded by the articulated hands and two of which are meant to be stored either in the shield or in the backpack, a beam rifle complete with moveable scope, the Gundam bazooka (which I never really liked before putting together the model), the requisite shield, and the Core Fighter. Fun fact about the Core Fighter: You actually could use this as the center bit of the model. You would, however, lose some of the flexibility.

Honestly, it's all pretty sweet. I ran into some problems with certain parts, in that they were really tiny and difficult to work with with my fat fingers, but everything's more or less put together as it was meant to be, and I managed to find a pretty sweet pose for Gundam to take whilst it sits on my desk. I really enjoyed putting it together, and I think I'm going to be looking for more in the future. Maybe the Nu (or Hi-Nu) and Sazabi (or Nightingale).

http://i.imgur.com/0ee1q.jpg

Kirin
07-15-2011, 09:38 AM
Very nice, Rai. The rest of you lot need to get with the picture posting! ;)

(Okay, I realize it might be a while if you don't have quick access to your models right now...)


...and I don't even know if there are models for those.

Hahaha, this is Gundam we're talking about. Now don't get me wrong, I love many of the shows, but the reason they get made in the first place is to sell plastic. Everything has a model. Usually several models. The only question is whether or not anyone has helpfully imported some to the US for you already.

Used to be you could just head to some dark back corner of a big-box toy or hobby store and find shelves full of random obscure models, but alas, those days are mostly over as retailers have moved to cut costs by slashing inventory. Most anime cons will have several vendors with good selections, though, and of course you can find stuff online.

Kate or Die!
07-15-2011, 10:02 AM
When I first saw this thread, I was like "sweet! I can post photos of all these models we have!" then I realized we've never finished any.

BŁge
07-15-2011, 10:44 AM
What's a good inexpensive way to display models and keep them from getting dusty?

Kirin
07-15-2011, 10:59 AM
I guess the traditional thing for that is cubical glass cases, or a glass-front display cabinet. Or you could just dust them (carefully) every few years... most of mine are just sitting on bookshelves.

Glass Knuckle
07-15-2011, 12:16 PM
Char's Zaku shares the same problem, and I've actually got more grievances with that model.

The main problems I had with it are that the armor flaps around the hips fall off easily, and the mouthpiece thing isn't held in by anything substantial. I'm also terrified that the hose-like bits are going to pop off sometime (though they seem to fit tightly enough), scattering plastic beads everywhere. All of that is going to require superglue, which I don't have at the moment. I didn't notice any problems with the movable joints though.

Morbid Coffee
07-15-2011, 03:12 PM
My Kotobukiya Megaman figures arrived this afternoon. Spent the last couple of hours building them and they're amazing. Warning: giant-ass pictures ahead:

Megaman
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af24/morbidcoffee/IMG_0251.jpg
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af24/morbidcoffee/IMG_0250.jpg
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af24/morbidcoffee/IMG_0252.jpg

Roll (Had a third pic of Roll too. Came out too blurry.)
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af24/morbidcoffee/IMG_0253.jpg
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af24/morbidcoffee/IMG_0256.jpg

Tag Team
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af24/morbidcoffee/IMG_0246.jpg
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af24/morbidcoffee/IMG_0248.jpg
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af24/morbidcoffee/IMG_0249.jpg

Bonus: ZOMBIES
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af24/morbidcoffee/IMG_0257.jpg

I really want to get Protoman now.

Falselogic
07-15-2011, 03:16 PM
My Kotobukiya Megaman figures arrived this afternoon. Spent the last couple of hours building them and they're amazing. Warning: giant-ass pictures ahead:

LOTS OF PICS

I really want to get Protoman now.

Nice. They look like they need a little clean up though. You need to trim that flash off. Razor blade works great.

Kirin
07-15-2011, 04:28 PM
Those megaman figures are sweet.

I'm also terrified that the hose-like bits are going to pop off sometime (though they seem to fit tightly enough), scattering plastic beads everywhere. All of that is going to require superglue, which I don't have at the moment. I didn't notice any problems with the movable joints though.

Superglue is a handy thing to have for models - I actually had to use it twice on the Unicorn Gundam, although both times were my fault. One was where I failed to notice the Japanese instructions telling me "join these pieces FIRST before adding this piece SECOND, dumbass!", resulting in a skinny piece snapping off of a connector post. A bit finicky, but superglue fixed it. The other one was simply torquing a piece the wrong way while removing it from the frame and having it snap along a seam. That problem could've been avoided just by being more careful, or using an xacto or razor to free the pieces like falselogic was suggesting above. Glue to the rescue again.

(Unfortunately, shortly after I finished one of my cats found the superglue on the counter over night and bit right through the tube *and* the plastic package I'd put it back in. No damage to the cat, fortunately, but the rest of the glue is all solidified. Time for a hardware store trip.)

Traumadore
07-16-2011, 08:17 AM
The other one was simply torquing a piece the wrong way while removing it from the frame and having it snap along a seam. That problem could've been avoided just by being more careful, or using an xacto or razor to free the pieces like falselogic was suggesting above. Glue to the rescue again.

Yeah anybody here making models, dig out or purchase:

wire cutters/clippers - to get your bits off the sprue
x-acto - to shave off flashing
Rubber cement - fuses the plastic pieces into one instead of merely gluing them, doesn't leave having while it dries

there's a lot of other useful stuff out there, but this is the minimum you should have on hand when you do a model. No more just twisting things off and snapping them together, your fingers will thank you!

Glass Knuckle
07-16-2011, 02:01 PM
Simple nail clippers are fantastic for separating the parts.

BŁge
07-16-2011, 07:14 PM
Simple nail clippers are fantastic for separating the parts.

Assuming you never want to use those clippers for their intended purpose again.

Morbid Coffee
10-17-2011, 08:47 PM
Full set get:

http://s1.proxy04.twitpic.com/photos/large/426634134.jpg

SpoonyBardOL
10-18-2011, 05:58 AM
I've always wanted to get that Mega Man model, but I'm iffy about ordering from stores I don't usually buy from online. But then I saw it on Amazon.ca (http://www.amazon.ca/Mega-Man-Rock-Plastic-Model/dp/B005I7P00A/ref=sr_1_1?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1318942578&sr=1-1), from a seller of course. Does that look like the same model? Would it be worth my monies?

Morbid Coffee
10-18-2011, 08:44 PM
I got all of mine from the Capcom store (http://shop.capcom.com/store/capcomus/list/categoryID.3953700/capcom-collectibles.html). They're about $30 each.

Kirin
10-19-2011, 08:18 AM
I was just skimming back up the thread, and realized that the the Real Grade Char Custom Zaku I recently picked up at a con is the exact one GlassKnuckle and Rai were complaining about above. Heh, well, I'll have to report back on how it goes after I find some time to build the thing.

Kayma
10-21-2011, 09:14 PM
You know, I've been wanting to build a Gundam or similar model for ages now. I haven't seen the things sold in stores since about the time Gundam Wing was on air.

Anyone have any recommendations for easy to moderate model to scratch that itch? Also, where do you guys usually get these things

Rai
10-22-2011, 12:31 AM
I think, as far as places to get the things go, I'm going to stick with Gundam Planet (http://www.gundamplanet.com). They've got a huge variety from every series/spin off, amongst other shows and genres of toys.

As for where to start, that's a bit tricky. I started with the RG Gundam I posted about above, and while it wasn't tremendously difficult, it wasn't exactly for beginners. The High Grade Alex I just recently built wasn't too bad, and I'm having a load of fun putting together Master Grade Unicorn. So if you want to jump all in, either of those grades are pretty good places to start. If you just want to test the proverbial waters, pick up an SD kit. They look fairly cool, and you can pick most up for like $10 plus shipping. Not a bad deal, that.

BŁge
10-22-2011, 07:43 AM
Hmmm, I should really work on this G-taste Model...

Mr. Sensible
02-03-2016, 10:01 AM
Threadsurrection!

Has anyone messed around with Metal Earth kits (https://www.fascinations.com/metalearth)? They're small 3D models that you pop out of flat metal sheets and assemble with tweezers or pliers, and there's quite a few licensed sets to boot.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JY4%2B6gNrL.jpg

I picked up a TIE fighter on clearance at GameStop for about $6. Looking at all these tiny pieces, I now realize I'm going to need some precision tools before I start building. So, uh, any advice or tips about which tools to use would be greatly appreciated.

Kirin
02-03-2016, 12:03 PM
I've never had any of those, but a friend on twitter has built several including an X-Wing, and they look really cool!

(Seeing this old thread of mine resurrected makes me want to break out my stack of un-built models... argh, too many projects.)

Manna
02-03-2016, 02:22 PM
This thread is going to be like porn for me, I just know it.

Anyone else tried out the Real Grade kits? I built the Zeta (twice because one broke a hip and it was unreparable) and it was pretty damned nice. I like smaller scale kits and the addition of the internal skeleton makes it feel so much more solid and substantial I'd love to try more out in the line at some point. Been eyeing the Strike and Sky Grasper, but wound up ordering an LBX kit (Odin) with my Christmas money because I was really digging the game.

Zef
02-03-2016, 06:43 PM
Has anyone messed around with Metal Earth kits (https://www.fascinations.com/metalearth)?

[...]

So, uh, any advice or tips about which tools to use would be greatly appreciated.

Ditto. I have a Hubble, a Millenium Falcon, and Poe's X-Wing, and I haven't even touched them because I dunno if I need specialized pliers or if I can do it with the stuff in my toolbox.

Mr. Sensible
02-04-2016, 12:45 PM
Still working on my TIE's first ion engine and I've already managed to break a piece. As someone with no model kit experience, fuuuuuuuck these things are difficult to put together. Bending some of these assembly tabs down correctly seems next to impossible.

I need some curved needle-point tweezers and a goddamn magnifying glass before I try this again.

Zodar
02-05-2016, 06:56 PM
Wow, how did I never see this thread? I guess most of its posts are from before I got into gunpla.

I've put together many kits (http://zodar.tumblr.com/post/138644776622/the-good-rigged-up-a-new-ikea-display-for-my) over the years, but I'm most proud of the SD Neo Zeong (w/ custom paintjob) (http://talking-time.net/showpost.php?p=1869728&postcount=342) I did in 2014, and the HG Ex-S Gundam I finished last night (!):
http://i.imgur.com/9WQjUVW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wn2mir7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lVGv13j.jpg

It's amazing what a difference a little Testors makes.

Kirin
02-16-2016, 11:42 AM
The person I know on twitter who does those little metal kits finished an X-Wing:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbOaHZ4UcAAbdLB.jpg

Mr. Sensible
02-16-2016, 01:56 PM
I'd love to know what tools he used. Tweezers?

Kirin
02-16-2016, 02:05 PM
She, and I'll ask...

Kirin
02-16-2016, 02:28 PM
"needle nose pliers and mini wire cutters to remove the pieces from the sheets"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbXpOUTUkAAZVr2.jpg

Mr. Sensible
02-16-2016, 02:51 PM
Hmm, same stuff I was using. Clearly I just need a lot of practice and patience.

Umbaglo
02-20-2016, 03:29 PM
I did in 2014, and the HG Ex-S Gundam I finished last night (!)

Ex-S is so good. I built the MG a few years ago, and it's still one of the stars of my collection. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKcl8AkVAAEhG4S.jpg) (Got to start finding places to display a bunch of those)

http://big-metto.net/Models/Ex-S-1.JPG
http://big-metto.net/Models/MkIIvsEX-S.JPG
http://big-metto.net/Models/TheBeastStands.JPG


Oh man, I should probably think about here for posting up pictures of my kits. Didn't realize there was a thread already! I still have a lot to build, and I've been slowly cranking away at them. I've been putting a few of them up on Twitter, like this "HG" Kamen Rider Faiz (https://twitter.com/Umbaglo/status/687025254229782528), or the MG Double X (https://twitter.com/Umbaglo/status/684964289975816193), or LBXes (https://twitter.com/Umbaglo/status/678240167568756736) (I love those kits so much).

Kirin
02-21-2016, 11:07 AM
That Double X is pretty nice. (I recommend not taking pics in front of the box art, though - it makes the background so busy that it's hard to pick out details at a glance.)

Umbaglo
02-21-2016, 12:52 PM
Hm, probably. I like taking it with the box, though, because it gives some context.

I really need to get myself a better photo backdrop, anyway.

Kirin
02-21-2016, 01:33 PM
Don't get me wrong, it's nice to see the cool box art too! Maybe side-by-side?

Manna
02-22-2016, 05:33 PM
I built an LBX too! (http://thirdhalf.net/the-little-builders-experience/) I'm glad someone else here digs these little guys too, I'll definitely need to make another some day.

And learn to paint. Those wraparound stickers suck.

Umbaglo
02-22-2016, 05:44 PM
Yeah, I started getting and using Gundam Markers instead of stickers, because stickers are just bad. Though I still use stickers when it's a really complex design on them, like the core box piece on an LBX (the little flat piece that goes inside the center torso). There's a few colours I need to get of Gundam Markers still, and the LBX line of markers (which I got through HLJ, but they've been out of stock for nearly a year now...) are all metallic, which is super rad.

Also, the Odin M is such a great little kit, and a great one to start with.

Manna
02-22-2016, 06:51 PM
Yeah, I started getting and using Gundam Markers instead of stickers, because stickers are just bad. Though I still use stickers when it's a really complex design on them, like the core box piece on an LBX (the little flat piece that goes inside the center torso). There's a few colours I need to get of Gundam Markers still, and the LBX line of markers (which I got through HLJ, but they've been out of stock for nearly a year now...) are all metallic, which is super rad.

Also, the Odin M is such a great little kit, and a great one to start with.

Ha, glad I picked a good one. I started with it mostly because of my variable fighter fetish. I might try and find a Fenrir or that Icarus/Ikaros one that turns into a bigass sword later on if I don't veer back to Gundam. Or D Style. I have like all the GaoGaiGar SD kits but I don't think they did a Volfogg to round them off.

I'm not counting Mic Sounders.

Zodar
03-04-2016, 10:20 AM
Do LBX's/Danball Senkis have an American distributor yet? I've pretty much strip-mined Gundam for designs I'm fond of that don't cost $100USD (Nightengale...), and it seems like LBX have a nice blend of SD proportions with HG-level color separation and detail.

Falselogic
03-04-2016, 10:27 AM
Oh so a friend gifted me one of those Gundam model things.

What do I need at minimum to put it together?

an exacto knife? maybe those pens to outline it? I've got no idea.

Zodar
03-04-2016, 10:53 AM
Oh so a friend gifted me one of those Gundam model things.

What do I need at minimum to put it together?

an exacto knife? maybe those pens to outline it? I've got no idea.


-A pair of wire or jewelry cutters to cut pieces off the runners. When you cut, don't try to cut flush to the piece; leave a little bit of excess plastic, or flash, that you can shave off with your exacto knife. Cutting too close to the piece can torque the plastic, and leave an unsightly white mark!
-An exacto knife to trim flash off pieces. Cut with the blade flush against the piece, and apply gentle pressure to the back of the blade with your thumb. Be careful not to angle the blade towards the piece, because you might wind up cutting a chunk out of it!
-Your fingernail! If there's any discoloration left when you've cut away the flash, you can get rid of some of it by pressing the edge of your thumbnail into the plastic.
-A Gundam panel-lining pen -- brand-name, or any appropriately-thin pen (.005 Pigma Micron, for example) will do. Grey works better on lighter-colored plastic than black. When you panel line crevices, you can also wipe away the excess with your thumb (or wipe away mistakes).
-Optional: some Gundam-brand Gundam markers, or Testors enamel paint, to do little details, metallic bits, etc. Makes a world of difference!

Umbaglo
03-05-2016, 02:18 PM
Do LBX's/Danball Senkis have an American distributor yet? I've pretty much strip-mined Gundam for designs I'm fond of that don't cost $100USD (Nightengale...), and it seems like LBX have a nice blend of SD proportions with HG-level color separation and detail.

I get mine from Hobby Link Japan (http://hlj.com/), but people in the US can also find localized LBX kits at Toys R Us. Sadly Canadian TRUs don't stock them.

Umbaglo
04-03-2016, 01:59 PM
When I was at my parents' place for Easter, I found a local hobby shop that had a decent gunpla selection, though the prices were ridiculous compared to just ordering from HLJ. Which makes me sad, because I'd normally like to support local businesses, but not when they're offering the product for 3 to 4 times the price, even if I factor in shipping costs.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfJWo2lWAAEBEX0.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfJWo6_WAAIOJZ-.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfJWolTW4AAQN_-.jpg

In any case, I picked up a SD Build Burning Gundam and a SD Lightning Gundam to go with my HGBF Star Winning Gundam. As well, they also had a really old 1/100 no grade F90V, which even if it was more expensive then that grade normally is, is rare enough that I was fine with spending the amount. I'll build that one later.

WisteriaHysteria
04-19-2016, 10:20 AM
I dove into Gunpla for the first time really had a few months ago. I've been taking a break lately because I kinda burned out and wore my fingers down pretty hard, and I also kinda go through cyclical phases w/ my hobbies anyways, but I think I'm ready to jump back in. This is all I've managed to do so far:

http://i.imgur.com/oszUcMr.jpg

I've somewhat ignored most of the decal work on these kits above, because they frankly look pretty damned good w/o 'em most of the time, and they look a lot more like they look in the show/films w/o 'em too. Current project is the MG Mk II v2. I'm beginning to try out the whole paint/lighter fluid method of doing panel lining and I'm really liking the results.

Kirin
04-19-2016, 11:32 AM
Nice line-up! (Both Wysteria's and Umbaglo's from a while back.)

I should really build some of mine, but I feel like I shouldn't dive into projects while I'm supposed to be job-searching. :/

Kirin
05-05-2016, 04:06 PM
So Conni and I were in Barnes & Nobel today... did you know they're carrying Gunpla there now? Turns out they're carrying gunpla. Whoops, now we have an even bigger backlog of Gunpla to build. -_-

In light of this, Conni's selling a few Seed and Destiny kits that she doesn't think she'll ever get to. Post with details here. (http://feuervogel.tumblr.com/post/143913519576/for-sale-gundam-model-kits-i-bought-these-10) There's an Aegis, a Blaze Zaku Phantom (both 1/100), and Duel Gundam Assault Shroud (HG), priced a little under what seems to be their going rates on eBay.

Umbaglo
05-06-2016, 03:50 PM
I can attest that that line of 1/100s was actually pretty good. I have a bunch of them, including the normal Blaze/Gunner ZAKU Warrior combo pack.

Vega
05-11-2016, 05:45 AM
This isn't a giant robot, but for Mother's Day I bought a Revell 1:196 kit of the USS Constitution and promised to build it for mom. It's been many years since I've done model kit work and the box says this is one of Revell's harder ones, including plastic sails and thread for rigging ropes. It looks like it's going to take a while...

Kirin
05-11-2016, 12:14 PM
Good luck! Non-giant-robot kits are perfectly welcome in the model thread, post some pics when you're done. And good luck with the fiddly bits. One of my backlog kits I'm saving for when I have more experience/time to do it justice is a Patlabor Ingram complete with wires and other fancy shit.

Kirin
05-14-2016, 10:59 AM
So it turns out that bad news for me is good news for this thread - I kinda botched a phone interview I really wanted to ace, and was so mad at myself that I had to get off the computer and do something with my hands as makeshift therapy, so hey, models! Did feel like dealing with older kits so I pulled a couple relatively new ones off my backlog pile:

http://i.imgur.com/3wX9ZIRl.jpg

I decided to start with Wild Tiger. A big advantage of this kit is that it's almost all in black, white, and clear colors, and the suit itself in the show is supposed to look shiny, smooth, and kind of plastic-y, so it really wouldn't even benefit from paint at all. It hardly even has panel lines. It does, however, have a ton of fiddly little stickers for metallic-lime-green detail lines, and this is where I decided to make life extremely hard for myself.

A lot of the stickers are tiny and separate, but some for sets of lines came in connected rows with black in between, which would be much easier to apply. But then you'd cover up some model detail, plus the black sticker doesn't look as good as the black plastic, so I decided to be clever and x-acto out just the green bits and apply them separately. OH MY GOD this was a pain in the ass. But it basically worked:

http://i.imgur.com/hEFhMZ1l.jpg http://i.imgur.com/keMk3b6l.jpg

Anyway, sticker insanity aside, it was a pretty straightforward build with some neat parts, and dude comes out awesomely posable. Another nice thing about this kit is the plastic was so nice that I barely had to trim any sprue off the parts at all - if there even was any it usually scraped off with a fingernail. Though the silver parts do show a little discoloration. But all in all very nice.

http://i.imgur.com/StRaQbyl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/pw4uZpgl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LgEZ40Wl.jpg

There's also like 3 other hand types that I didn't put on, though no other accessories - it connects with some standard Bandai stand that's sold separately, so you gotta shell out for that if you wanna pose jump-kicks or anything. He stands unsupported reasonably well for a lanky figure, though.


Meanwhile I just cracked open the SD Strike Freedome, and this cheap little kit is a polar opposite in terms of mold detail. The number of parts is really low, which means most things have bits that aren't colored right. There are stickers, but they look awful covering large areas, so I'm breaking out the paints. Just got started at the end of the night, but here's the dark blue plate with *most* of the colors it should have added via paint marker. Will do panel lining later probably.

http://i.imgur.com/PgUkyo0l.jpg

Kirin
05-14-2016, 01:51 PM
Update:

http://i.imgur.com/VdQ8U9Gl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vy4cupK.jpg

Pretty much used paint for everything on this one except for the eyes. My painting hand is not the steadiest, but eh. Chibi Strike Freedom says pewpewpew!

WisteriaHysteria
06-06-2016, 08:32 PM
So Conni and I were in Barnes & Nobel today... did you know they're carrying Gunpla there now? Turns out they're carrying gunpla. Whoops, now we have an even bigger backlog of Gunpla to build. -_-
One of my favorite things on the internet in the past few years, has actually been looking at B&N display case disasters when it comes to Gunpla. The kits they display are always poorly assembled (nubs sticking out everywhere, no panel lining, stickers peeling), and even more poorly arranged. Like, the unflattering poses in some of these B&N display cases are embarassing to the point where it's like "how is is this supposed to make people want to buy Gunpla?" because of how uncool they look. Here's the display at my local B&N from a few months ago:

http://i.imgur.com/0IjLHWVl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/0IjLHWV.jpg)

I've come very close to dropping big dollars at B&N a number of times on Gunpla, but their selection is very limited, and everything is usually very overpriced. And as much as I'd like to be able to support an initiative like this, I'm a little too poor to be paying 25-50% markups.

Kirin, I'm very jelly of that Tiger kit. If I didn't already have an untennable backlog and swore off buying more kits before I finished them, next purchase of mine would be a Wild Tiger, a Barnaby, and their motorcycle.

Finally finished my MG Mk II v2 after sitting on it half-complete for months. It's a very nice kit. The articulation is top notch, and the separation of the moving components in the legs are super neat.

http://i.imgur.com/0QtHbrOl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/0QtHbrO.jpg)

My long term goal is to get a complete ZZ Gundam Team going. Next up though is the MG F91, and maaaaan is this kit a pain in the ass.

Kirin
06-07-2016, 08:56 AM
Heh, yeah, that B&N display could definitely use some more dynamic posing, but honestly? I'm betting a lot of casual US buyers would feel cheated if they had gorgeous painted-and-lined kits on display and then that's not what a build looked like out of the box. Unless you're coming from, like, the military modeling scene, you won't know that kind of work is expected, and I bet most of the audience here is more casual anime fans.

I don't think our B&N even had a display case up, but the prices didn't seem too bad. They may have dropped some on the kits that weren't super new. I've certainly seen both worse and better mark-ups at, say, convention booths, depending on what deals you find, so they didn't seem too out of line. Kit prices do seem to vary a lot more from vendor to vendor than something like Figmas (ugh, so pricey these days), though.

Anyway, MkII looking good!

Mightyblue
06-07-2016, 08:58 AM
Yeah, the B&N by me has a Gunpla case (as well as a Figarts case for several diff brands), but most of their models were IBO and random SEED Destiny mechs.

Umbaglo
06-07-2016, 09:58 AM
That's a nice MkII. And I actually thought the MG F91 was a pretty good kit (I actually have both a MG F91 AND a MG MP F91 built, but not yet put back on a shelf. I really should put them up together.). I could see them being a little fiddly since they're pretty thin mobile suits, though. Wouldn't be as bad as my MG V Gundam, though...

Man, I feel kind of bad about letting my backlog languish. Maybe tonight I'll build a couple of my smaller ones. I have a ton of LBXes sitting around, and I got a SD Scopedog Red Shoulder Custom a bit ago that finally got delivered.

WisteriaHysteria
06-07-2016, 06:17 PM
I'm betting a lot of casual US buyers would feel cheated if they had gorgeous painted-and-lined kits on display and then that's not what a build looked like out of the box.That's a fair point. But I don't need them airbrushed or sanded or anything. Cleaning up the nubs and some rudimentary panel lines would do wonders, and isn't that big of an investment to ask when you're already charging $30 for a HG. It wouldn't take much to stick a little box of gundam markers next to the display either for those panel lines, or a few pair of nippers. I think it's more disappointing when you put yours together and it doesn't look nearly as good as the promotional pictures or even the instruction manual make it out to look.

That's a nice MkII. And I actually thought the MG F91 was a pretty good kit (I actually have both a MG F91 AND a MG MP F91 built, but not yet put back on a shelf. I really should put them up together.). I could see them being a little fiddly since they're pretty thin mobile suits, though. Wouldn't be as bad as my MG V Gundam, though...TY. It's a no frills, no decals, no paint build. But I did try out the whole paint/lighter fluid panel washing technique for doing panel lining for the first time with this, and I'm very pleased with the results.

And the MG F91 isn't a bad kit by any stretch. I love the mech, and I'm pleased with a lot of the results so far. It's just got a high degree of difficulty. It's got MG levels of detail and intricacy, but the kit is the size of an HG essentially. And it's nerve wracking to hold plastic parts the size of grains of rice and try to not slice your fingers open with an x-acto knife. Even though it would break the 1/100 convention scale, I wish other late-UC kits got the whole 2.0 ver Ka treatment the V2 recently got, where Kataoki decided "meh, screw scale" and modeled the kit more in line with other MGs in the 7-8 inch height range rather than being a 5 inch dwarf.

Umbaglo
06-07-2016, 06:40 PM
That actually makes me more interested in getting the MG V2. I have the MG V ver Ka (and the V Dash add-on), and MAN. That kit is GORGEOUS but it's also incapable of sustaining it's own weight. Like, it's so small even at 1/100 scale that the snap connectors are smaller then a millimeter in diameter and length, so they barely connect at all. And there's whole swaths of the kit where you have to hold it together with wishes and prayers until you can finally put the retaining pieces on to hold it into place... and then hope and pray that it actually stays connected because the posts are so tiny.

After the like, 5th time that the whole thing just fell apart just standing in a post, I finally just put it back in it's box and gave up. And it's a shame, because it LOOKS SO GOOD.

WisteriaHysteria
06-07-2016, 06:56 PM
Here's the V2 Ver Ka versus the old V:

http://www.dalong.net/review/mg/m191/p/m191_109.jpg

Sucks to hear about the connectors. Have you tried using plastic cement? I'm pretty sure this F91 would explode like a grenade if I wasn't using plastic cement to keep it from falling apart.

Umbaglo
06-07-2016, 06:59 PM
Nah, I don't really use glue. I rarely ever use it in general, so keeping it around is a bit of a waste since it'll dry up before the next time I need any.

I didn't really have any difficulties like that with either of my F91s, so if you are then you TOTALLY would have problems with the V.

WisteriaHysteria
06-07-2016, 08:09 PM
No, not glue, plastic cement. It's not glue, and it won't dry up (though it will likely evaporate if you leave it uncapped). It's actually a chemical that temporarily melts plastic, allowing you to fuse plastic together. You can use it to fuse and eliminate seams as well (which I do occasionally, but mostly don't) like this video I'll post below, but I mostly use it as a clean and easy replacement for superglue on connectors.

7AAIHO5IZqU

Now, it will literally melt plastic, so you'll want to use it sparingly, and be careful not to drip it or splash it places you don't want it being (which isn't too hard to do), and you probably want to do this in a well ventilated place since it can't be the best stuff to be huffing. But I've begun using them on my kits to keep pegs and connectors firmly in place, and it's made a world of a difference. Kits that used to be kinda flimsy or have pieces fall off, are now sturdy and rock solid. It's also great because you can use it to do repair work on any broken pegs or pieces. There were a few pegs I snapped off on accident while transforming my MG ZZ, and a little bit of plastic cement and some time to let it curate and dry, and it's like it never happened. And that MG ZZ, which used to be a grenade, is now a friggin' tank. I mostly use the Tamiya Extra Thin (http://www.amazon.com/Tamiya-87038-Extra-Thin-Cement/dp/B000BMYWYC) stuff, but any liquid kind will do.

Umbaglo
06-08-2016, 03:16 PM
I just really needed to build something tonight, so I went and built that Scopedog.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckdg6t5WEAAzeOf.jpg

I misremembered, it was actually a Turbo Custom, not a Red Shoulder Custom, that it was that I had. It was an interesting little kit. Basically a SD Gundam grade, but slightly higher like Kotobukiya tends to be. Has some moving parts for the Arm Punch and roller skates abilities, and the red shoulder is... like, metallic? It was weird to work with, at least.

It also has a cute little Chirico Cuive that sits in the cockpit that I tried to paint, but mostly made a mess of.

Umbaglo
06-18-2016, 07:25 PM
I'm away from home for the next couple of months on an important career course for my job, so of course I decided to spend some of the space in my car to bring a footlocker worth of model kits to try and get some time to build. Tonight, to help unwind from the first week, I went and build the HGBF Leopard Da Vinci.

I didn't have all the right paint colours with me (and my metallic orange dried out, so I just went back to the traditional metallic green), but I think it turned out pretty well none the less.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClR4zwMWQAAla6A.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClR40ysXEAAp_mp.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClR410NWEAAkG8l.jpg

Kirin
06-19-2016, 08:57 AM
For a moment I was wondering if that was some sort of extreme Heavyarms variant, but then I looked it up and it's actually a fairly subtle mod of something from Gundam X, huh. Maybe someday I'll watch that, but not 'til after I get around to Turn-A.

Anyway, looks good. Also I meant to say earlier that the SD Scopedog is ridiculously adorable.

I want to build some more models but instead our project this week was reupholstering a chair. Models are less painful (also I have no idea what I'm doing).

WisteriaHysteria
06-20-2016, 11:56 PM
It kills me a little on the inside every time I see a Build Fighters kit, and it says 1/144 scale, instead of 1/1 scale on the box.

Wait, did you spray paint that Leopard, Umbaglo?

Umbaglo
06-22-2016, 02:39 AM
Nah, I only Gundam Markered a few pieces to get the colours right.

Umbaglo
06-26-2016, 03:33 PM
Another weekend, another model kit built. This time, the LBX Dot Blastriser G-Ext. Or, as I like to call it, the LBX Hyperion LO Booster.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl53GDuWMAAHVUJ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl53HLAWkAAQHOf.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl53I6OWkAAbm16.jpg

WisteriaHysteria
07-07-2016, 04:38 PM
Wow, that's wicked. I'm embarrassed that I've never heard of Danball Senki Wars. Is this something I should be looking into???

I finally finished my MG F91. I'm not happy with the kit, but it turned out OK I guess:

http://i.imgur.com/hOikEpWl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/hOikEpW.jpg)

I adore the F91, it could really use a v2.0 or a ver Ka update badly. Some of the design choices with it are just beyond baffling.

Watched Build Fighters recently and got really into it, so I threw down money I probably shouldn't have and started making the kits for the Try Fighters. Started with the HG Lightning Gundam. It was a nice little diversion from the usual MGs I limit myself to. A very simple and clean kit.

http://i.imgur.com/EdDw1kMl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/EdDw1kM.jpg)

It's pretty weird how the F91 is so small, that the MG kit of it is almost as small as your typical HG (http://i.imgur.com/lhNDvaw.jpg).

Umbaglo
07-07-2016, 05:18 PM
Wow, that's wicked. I'm embarrassed that I've never heard of Danball Senki Wars. Is this something I should be looking into???

You should! But the series ended it's run a few years ago, so kits are getting harder and harder to find. It's a shame, because they're SO GOOD and have some really nice tech that Bamco should use for regular Gunpla.


It's pretty weird how the F91 is so small, that the MG kit of it is almost as small as your typical HG (http://i.imgur.com/lhNDvaw.jpg).

Heh, on a similar note, please note that all of these kits are 1/100 scale. (http://simchamber.net/uploads/1279464402/gallery_2_6_820992.jpg)

WisteriaHysteria
07-07-2016, 05:52 PM
I want an MG The O soooooo bad, but I'm not in a position in life where I can justify $150 on a single model kit. Even if that kit is amaaazing. :( I can only imagine how big the MG Perfect Zeong matches up against all of that.

A quick, cursory look, Danball kinda reminds me of Majin Bone in spirit, except better looking. Man, I wish Majin Bone was popular. It kills me they only made a half a dozen model kits for it. That show and its exosuits were so rad.

WisteriaHysteria
07-15-2016, 06:42 AM
http://i.imgur.com/szKTC3Kl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/szKTC3K.jpg)
I picked up and finished the rest of the Try Fighters trio. I probably should have went with the regular Build Burning instead of the Try Burning, but I wanted all the upgraded kits. It's got a lot of detail and articulation for an HG but the build quality leaves a lot to be desired. The clear plastic fx parts are are often very loose and simply fall off, but gluing them down means you won't be able to sub them out for the fire effects on demand anymore. The polycap connecting the legs to the torso is also so loose that when you go to pick up the Burning Gundam, the legs sometimes simply don't come with it.

The Star Winning Gundam is, I assume, fairly representative of SD Gundams with not a lot of detail, very simplistic, horrible articulation, and copious amounts of stickers to make up for proper color separation in the parts. But man is it neat that this Gundam has a real mode to morph into. All of these kits would be super boss if they had full MGs of them, but I'm not holding out hope on that.

Zodar
07-15-2016, 09:40 AM
I want an MG The O soooooo bad, but I'm not in a position in life where I can justify $150 on a single model kit. Even if that kit is amaaazing. :( I can only imagine how big the MG Perfect Zeong matches up against all of that.

I know right? The MG The-O is supposed to be a feature-barren brick of a kit that barely adds anything from the HG, but part of me doesn't even care because
http://i.imgur.com/7KpeLYm.jpg

I've been working on the 1/100 Kimaris for the last few days. Lovely color scheme, virtually no stickers, and a $30 dollar price tag for what's basically an MG. Decided to spruce the inner frame up a bit.
http://i.imgur.com/AEP0Mua.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lw9CKNH.jpg

Kirin
07-15-2016, 02:06 PM
Wist - Hmm, I have the HG Kamiki Burning near the top of my unbuilt stack; guess I'll just cross my fingers that my effects parts hold on okay.

Zodar - already said so on twitter but I love that Kimaris frame. You added the gold as paint?

WisteriaHysteria
07-15-2016, 04:19 PM
I'm looking at the manual and review for the Kamiki Burning at Dalong. And it looks like at the very least, the problematic shoulder effect part (on the underside of the shoulder pauldron that pokes out, which is by far the slipperiest piece on my kit) is exactly the same, and that shitty piece falls out if mouse breaths on it. And the hip joints are still the same too. Both of these and others aren't huge problems if you're willing to address them with glue (coating the connectors with glue to widen them and make them fit a little more snuggly, or straight up gluing them in place) but it's always annoying when you can't just simply snap build a functioning kit.

@Zodar: But bricks are my favorite Gundams! (http://i.imgur.com/y2Pw1o9.jpg) :D

Your Kimaris is looking good! I don't know why these aren't just labeled MGs, that's a full inner frame. And $30 used to be the price range that MGs played in when the concept first came about.

Kirin
07-16-2016, 08:37 AM
Well, I'll find out soon I guess...
http://i.imgur.com/otHQ2pgm.jpeg

WisteriaHysteria
07-18-2016, 09:12 PM
I kinda wish I'd gotten that Kamiki Burning instead. It's a nice looking robit.

http://i.imgur.com/4qAZll2l.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/4qAZll2.jpg)

Made a Mamagguy w/ Petit'GGuy. It was actually a very fun and satisfying build. Didn't realize the HG Acguy and its derivatives was such a good kit. It's also unexpectedly huge! I know Acguys are big and all, but I don't remember Beargguys looking this big compared to other mechs in the show. I tried panel lineing this one with gray paint this time around. I'm very pleased with the results.

WisteriaHysteria
08-07-2016, 03:38 PM
Been on a tear lately. Finished my MG GX:

http://i.imgur.com/HECDMR1l.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/HECDMR1.jpg)

Besides the derpy hands, this is such a fresh kit. Great combination of colors, excellent engineering, fun build, unique design, and panel lines scribed in a way that made inking them super easy. The transparent purple pieces look soooooo good too. And superb articulation on the joints (elbows and knees do full 180 bends; hips and shoulders have full range of movement).

Also made the MG RX-78-2 The Origin Ver. Probably the best model kit I've built to date, and certainly the best version of the Granddaddy Gundam (short of getting a PG).

http://i.imgur.com/ZBn1RURl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/ZBn1RUR.jpg)

It ditches the core block, which gives this kit a lot of range of motion in the waist. It's got a lot of good detail to it without being over-decaled mess like the 3.0, and the colors are to die for. It also has this neat gimmick (which apparently a few other kits have, but I haven't yet encountered?) where every individual joint on the fingers are articulated. They're actually amazing.

http://i.imgur.com/XtlkPeTl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/XtlkPeT.jpg)

And if I'm making an RX-78-2, I can't NOT do this pose:

http://i.imgur.com/OKeJHJjl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/OKeJHJj.jpg)

Kirin
08-08-2016, 09:44 AM
Nice. I've seen kits with *some* hand/finger articulation, but not that much.

s p a c e f o l d
08-21-2016, 03:14 AM
That RX78 is sweet! I bought a HG Char Zaku II this week. 1/144. I put it together today along with a few NG models I had laying around. The NG Zaku's a real pain to put together. They look pretty silly too and their arms keep falling out of their socket. Maybe to imitate getting chopped up by a gundam like in the show? I'd like to paint them at some point, but for now they exist only to be displayed with my Char.
http://i.imgur.com/ussJLYf.jpg
his mono eye could be more centered
http://i.imgur.com/NRjxT6K.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UXY3fWt.jpg

s p a c e f o l d
08-23-2016, 10:18 PM
Gifted myself a an HG Zaku I for my Bday!
http://i.imgur.com/DeEg9hU.jpg?1

WisteriaHysteria
08-25-2016, 01:15 AM
Your Zakus look dope, spacefold! I'm pretty jelly, I've been playing with the idea of getting those old First Grades myself. But I'll hold off until I can afford to get myself some scribing and airbrush tools first.

Kirin
08-25-2016, 07:56 AM
I wonder what those old ones would look like with just some good ol' Gundam Marker panel lining. Though... with the molds being so bare-bones, you might have to free-hand some which could be... difficult.

I really need to get back to my models, but between job-hunting and dealing with unemployment and health insurance, and then being sick for a week... ugh.

s p a c e f o l d
08-26-2016, 01:10 AM
Yeah I'm in a rough spot too. Gunpla is kind of therapeutic. I really want to paint them FGs. I have some acrylic paint laying around. I read it works if you thin out paint. initially I wanted the FGs as practice with assembly and paint before I got around to working on my HGs. I can't imagine how doing more complex FG mobile suit designs would be. Also there isn't much panel lining on the FG zakus and gouf. there's another FG zaku mold that looks more updated, so panel lining might go a lot farther.

https://www.1999.co.jp/itbig01/10011577a.jpg

There are gundam color markers too right? I have some FG GM's I'm putting together this weekend, the molds are all blue, I prefer the fantastical designs of zeon mobile suits though. I wish I had a better camera.

Kirin
08-26-2016, 08:42 AM
Yeah, you can get Gundam Markers in all kinds of colors, I have a bunch. You can also get convenient packs that have a lot of the common Gundam colors in. Non-brand paint markers can also work in a pinch, though you'll always want to test on a sprue or something to see how they come out over a given plastic color. In this pic from the last page, everything not dark blue is a paint marker because SD kits aren't molded with very many separate parts:

http://i.imgur.com/PgUkyo0l.jpg


Anyway, I finally got a chance to make a little new progress of my own:

http://i.imgur.com/b6utJ4Zl.jpg

Liking the modeling of this kit so far. It has plenty of mold colors, so the only touch-ups I've done to this point are black Gundam marker for the shoulder stripes (in place of thin black stickers it called for) and some yellow marker to darken up the yellow pieces a little. Not sure if I'll do any panel lines on this one; it's so many colors it doesn't need much, and since it's Build Fighters it's not really supposed to look like huge pieces of metal anyway.

Kirin
08-27-2016, 12:33 PM
Up- up- update! Got the main model done last night. Still lots of extra hands, weapons, and tons of effects parts to deal with. The sword and scabbard are gonna need a lot of Gundam marker to look good.

Wist - I haven't had any trouble with the clear parts or loose joints on this one so far. I think it had some re-engineering from other versions. I say this with some confidence because one of my main sprues has like 9 unused parts - I'm pretty sure it's a copy from an earlier Burning variant and several of the parts were replaced on a second sprue. I think the waist, backpack, and some shoulder joint bits are all re-done.

http://i.imgur.com/h8mQnuPl.jpg

s p a c e f o l d
08-27-2016, 03:55 PM
Nice work! I'm loving the design of that one, really flashing. Do you color before spruce removal? . I started painting my FGs and boy do i wish I'd painted before assembly.

WisteriaHysteria
08-27-2016, 05:09 PM
I wonder what those old ones would look like with just some good ol' Gundam Marker panel lining. Though... with the molds being so bare-bones, you might have to free-hand some which could be... difficult.

I really need to get back to my models, but between job-hunting and dealing with unemployment and health insurance, and then being sick for a week... ugh.I look forward to an undetermined future where I can afford an airbrush set, because I really wanna do stuff like this with First Grades:

http://i.imgur.com/jijxwUpl.jpg

They look hilarious!

I can commiserate with the life-situation; I should probably spend less time/money on plamo, but I find it very therapeutic. Also, your Kamiki Burning Gundam looks great! Good to hear the kit is solid too. Maybe I just have ham-hands. My OCD however really wants you to panel line at least the slants in the face-guard. :D

I spent the last few weeks slowly making the Bandai 1/72 VF-31J Siegfried.

http://i.imgur.com/Mgw7x8dl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/Mgw7x8d.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/sfrHgDRl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/sfrHgDR.jpg)

Its size and transformable features puts it on par with a Master Grade kit, but the horrible color separation and over-reliance on stickers/decals (http://www.dalong.net/review/etc/md01/p/md01_00e.jpg), along with a lot of curious/annoying design flaws puts it more along the lines of a No Grade/High Grade 1/100 kit. The number of stickers, as well as some of the not-quite well fitting transformable parts made this kit very frustrating to put together. But all things considered, it's pretty OK I guess. It comes with duplicate decals so you can have your choice of putting on stickers, or water slides. It probably would have looked better had I chosen the water slides, but I opted to go with the stickers in case I wanted to paint it in the future and leave the water slides for that (there's also a LOT of curved surfaces here, so you'd need some mark softer to get the water slides to work). It looks pretty OK, but there's a million little details that bug me, and some not so small details that are really awful (the clear canopy that should be translucent yellow as advertised). If Macross were a bigger deal, Bandai could easily re-engineer the this kit so that the color separation was better, adding details like adjustable wing flaps, or addressing like a million little nitpicks I have. But it's probably not exactly worth their time. At the very least though, this was good practice for if I wanna make Messer's VF-31F. I'd take pictures of it transformed, but I kinda don't want to even bother transforming it ever again. :toastybert:

s p a c e f o l d
08-27-2016, 06:15 PM
lmao that zaku I looks more like Sniper Joe than most zakus. My god that macross kit looks like an ordeal with the details. The work you've done looks great. I can't imagine building a kit that also has a transforming function. I'm just struggling with all the minor things my FGs have. I had a lot of acrylic paint lying around. so I painted by hand. It's all really sloppy especially the stupid GMs. It was like color theory all over, but I think I got close to the matching the box art. My initial idea was to paint them like how they appeared in the anime, with lots of heavy black lines and saturated colors if that makes sense, but that seems too tedious rn. maybe in the future.
http://i.imgur.com/lKnRZD6.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/zq7CMg2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OQ9ow0L.jpg?1

WisteriaHysteria
08-28-2016, 12:52 AM
Do you color before spruce removal? . I started paining my FGs and boy do i wish I'd painted before assembly.Hey dude, your FGs actually look pretty legit! My understanding of the painting process, painting post-runner is a good idea because you should want to clean up the nubs, or maybe weld the seams first. Then, you can paint the individual parts. Ive read it's easier to paint when you've got things like alligator-clips to hold onto the parts and keep them steady and also so they can dry without needing to be laid down. But for these FGs, it's probably not the worst to paint on the runners as well. Also, to keep the paint from going places you don't want it to, you should use masking tape. It'll help create steady, straight lines.

Kirin
08-28-2016, 09:13 AM
Nice work! I'm loving the design of that one, really flashing. Do you color before spruce removal? . I started paining my FGs and boy do i wish I'd painted before assembly.

It depends! For things where I know I want to paint a whole piece, like I did with the yellow bits of Burning, I'll often paint on the runners, though like Wist says that does lead to having to do some touch-up after you take them out and trim the sprue residue (at least on visible edges). And as in the photo I posted earlier, I painted a lot of the SD Strike Freedom bits on runners because it needed so damn much paint, and I don't have those alligator clips that would make holding them separate easier.

Other times I'll paint some stuff as I go - like the black bars on Burning's shoulder pauldrons and ankles (replacing long black stickers) I did after putting those pieces on a few neighboring pieces, which gave more ways to hold onto it. This can work well if the bit you need to paint is all outward-facing and accessible.

And then there's details like panel-lining where I'll often wait 'til I've near finished the kit, just because I'm not sure what I do and don't want to line before seeing it. This can sometimes lead to trouble if something you want to line is hard to reach, though taking off arms/legs etc will often get you there.

I can commiserate with the life-situation; I should probably spend less time/money on plamo, but I find it very therapeutic. Also, your Kamiki Burning Gundam looks great! Good to hear the kit is solid too. Maybe I just have ham-hands. My OCD however really wants you to panel line at least the slants in the face-guard. :D

I spent the last few weeks slowly making the Bandai 1/72 VF-31J Siegfried.

Yeah, I'll probably do a few touch-ups on this one later - I noticed a couple other subtle unmolded color bits I want to go back and paint as well.

Your finished Siegfried looks great! Really a pity about the awful color separation - looks like a *ton* of work just to get it to look even halfway decent, which is gonna keep me from rushing out to buy one despite my immense love for Macross. Alas.

s p a c e f o l d
08-29-2016, 01:04 AM
I'm going to practice some seam removal with the FGs and if that goes well, I'll get into more detail work with my HGs because i really want to see what I can do with those . I'm thinking of getting an HG 1/144 kampfer or Gouf or I might just hold off and just get some top coating + paint markers. Has Amazon always sold gundam model kits? and for as cheap as they are now? I recall having to go through HLJ or gundamstoreandmore to get anything and now I have the convenience of Amazon. it's too easy.

Mightyblue
08-29-2016, 07:12 AM
A lot of those smaller guys folded up shop or moved over to Amazon.

WisteriaHysteria
08-29-2016, 09:14 AM
Your finished Siegfried looks great! Really a pity about the awful color separation - looks like a *ton* of work just to get it to look even halfway decent, which is gonna keep me from rushing out to buy one despite my immense love for Macross. Alas.I'm probably being a little harsh with my words. I've read a number of opinions online saying the Siegfried is a better kit from Bandai than their Frontier lines. And a lot of my problems with it could be solved by me being a better modeler and handling my gripes with paint, or properly adjusting my expectations. I guess I've just been spoiled lately by Master Grades and expected something like that. The stickers are a pain, but I was getting the hang of them by the end. There's also a few extra stickers printed in the little detail decals so if you mess up it's not the end of the world.

And re: Spacefold's earlier comment about transforming model kit - it really depends on the kit. Some of the transforming HGs and especially the RGs are too small and flimsy to handle transformations well, and end up being tiny plastic hand grenades that could collapse under their own weight. But kits that are engineered well, or aren't that complicated of a transformation process, those issues aren't as pronounced. The transformation process with my MG ZZ is way more complicated than the relatively simple Valkyrie transformations, but it's surprisingly sturdy. This Siegfried, for all my problems with it, the transforming part isn't a huge drawback and is relatively well done for a transforming kit.

I'm going to practice some seam removal with the FGs and if that goes well, I'll get into more detail work with my HGs because i really want to see what I can do with those . I'm thinking of getting an HG 1/144 kampfer or Gouf or I might just hold off and just get some top coating + paint markers. Has Amazon always sold gundam model kits? and for as cheap as they are now? I recall having to go through HLJ or gundamstoreandmore to get anything and now I have the convenience of Amazon. it's too easy.Seam removal is fun but pretty involved. You can remove some seams without painting a kit, but those seams have to be pretty tight fitting to begin with, and you have to sand and buff like crazy. Most folk who get into that, there's still sanding and welding with plastic cement, but you can fill in the gaps with modelers putty (which you'd invariably likely need for your FGs) and then paint over everything (with primer and everything) to get the surface smooth. It's fun but a lot of work.

Adding to what Mightyblue said about Amazon, yea they have a decent stock nowadays, both through Amazon directly and through a lot of smaller resellers. The common, popular, brand new kits (like the GBF line or recent IBO kits) or evergreen mechs (like OYW kits, or Wing kits) are pretty cheap and readily available. You might be able to find better prices elsewhere, but it won't be by much, and it certainly won't beat their convenience either. Some older, less popular, currently out-of-print kits, or p-bandai exclusives can all have a hefty markup, and shopping around is still recommended (For example - I'm trying to get my hands on a Patlabor command car kit, but I shouldn't have to pay $90 for a kit that MSRPs for like 2000 yen). A lot of the resellers that ship from Japan on Amazon have decent prices, and the free shipping is nice, but keep in mind that the cost of shipping is usually figured into their prices, and if you're buying model kits in bulk, it's probably cheaper to buy from places like hlj or amiami or wherever, because the shipping costs go down on those sites the more you throw things together in the same package. And those shipping jobs on Amazon, unless it's directly from Amazon, you'll probably be waiting at least 3 weeks, potentially months, for your package to arrive as it slowly makes its way on a boat via SAL.

s p a c e f o l d
09-02-2016, 11:52 PM
I ordered a build fighters HG crossbone Gundam. I haven't watched build fighters but I really love this design for some reason. It's so super robot. I cannot wait for it's arrival.
http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig26/10261907a.jpg
http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig26/10261907a2.jpg

s p a c e f o l d
09-04-2016, 02:42 AM
spent today building a hg 1/144 GUNDAM DETHSCYTHE HELL CUSTOM i got gifted last xmas. tried experimenting with paint marker. ended going over all the helmet, chest and skirt in black and sorta regret it because now it's this shiny black thing that looks a little tacky or like an off model 90's action figure. Not really a WING guy, but I don't mind the mech designs. Bat wings are always cool imo, I love devilman. I think in the future I'm going to leave all the marker stuff to small details. overall the kit is a little wonky. I can't put my finger on why it looks off to me. maybe it's my paint job, or the sculpt. then again, ENDLESS WALTZ came out in 97' so I'm guessing so did this kit and if that's the case, the HG line has come a long way, and I say this having just built a few FGs and knowing the HGs are already a budget model.
http://i.imgur.com/Pm42J34.jpg?1http://i.imgur.com/ZE8N1OY.jpg?1

WisteriaHysteria
09-04-2016, 04:41 AM
Hey, I think that's not bad all things considered! Old HGs can be really ghetto. If you don't like how the painting ended up, just wash it off. If you're using Gundam Markers, some isopropyl alcohol will wash it all off, no worse for wear. Painting with those markers can be really tough and not intuitive; I've basically sworn them off for the most part.

The HG line on average offers a lot more variety over others (like MGs, PGs, RGs), but the older AUs are a big glaring deficiency. Most kits pre-2005 or so are woefully inferior to more modern ones, so a lot of the old HGs for Wing, G, X, and Turn-A are all hot piles, with not a lot of modern HGs or MGs to fill the gaps in. The MG Wing and Turn-A kits are leagues better than the old HGs and at this point offer better variety. It's a crying shame you can't get the Shuffle Alliance in modern HGs. The No Grade Turn-A line borders on FG in terms of quality. And it's ridiculous that there's a BF variant of Gundam Leopard but no actual Leopard for me to build. :toastybert:

Also, Crossbone Gundam Maoh is great; look forward to your build! It's a shame however that in the show, that suit only shows up for like, barely any screen time at all.

s p a c e f o l d
09-07-2016, 01:12 AM
Thanks!, I guess the death scythe looks a little better in person. I wonder if anyone here likes those bandai action Bases? he might look better flying.

Another model I like is the HGUC GM sniper
http://www.gunjap.net/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/1492.jpg
it's cute.
actually all the 0080 GMs are kinda cute. My OCD has me wishing there was some consistency in color between the sniper and command GM. I might opt for a couple of space-command types in the future.

Kirin
09-09-2016, 10:13 AM
Ooh, that Sniper does look cool.

Nostalgia bomb with the HG Deathscythe Custom - that exact kit is literally sitting on a shelf just to my left and about four feet up, because my wife built it like a decade ago. I'm pretty sure she painted the whole thing, because she's nuts like that. She also did up 1/100s of Tallgeese and Epyon back in the day, which are pretty nice looking kits.

That reminds me, I really should get a pic to show off of the Sinanju she finished recently where she hand-brush all the ridiculous tiny Sleeves-style details. But I'm pretty sure it's in her new grad school apartment so I can't just walk over and snap it.

s p a c e f o l d
09-10-2016, 01:45 AM
Oh that's awesome. I really like both Tallgeese and Epyon. If there were any Wing kits I would get, it would be those, although not sure that I can store 1/100 kits anywhere. i don't even have a place for my 1/144 models. I just like the process of making and sharing them. then they go back in the box. I spent Friday building the HG Kampfer. sort of gave up on the major paint stuff, and seam removal. tried focusing more on flash removal, light sanding. I still have to do some panel lining and minor detailing. um the decals seem kind of complicated to put on with the water so I might skip out on that. I enjoyed putting this one together.
http://i.imgur.com/OQ4cq9o.jpg?1

WisteriaHysteria
09-11-2016, 05:23 AM
Thanks!, I guess the death scythe looks a little better in person. I wonder if anyone here likes those bandai action Bases? he might look better flying.It looks good in the picture!

I have a few Action Bases; they're certainly necessary if you want your kits to take some more dynamic poses, or to get some of the clunkier kits do anything without falling over. But I'm largely happy having my mechs derp around on their own two feet not doing much of a pose. Someday I'll buy a nice display case for them too, but my living situation isn't that permanent, and I still would like the option to hastily hide these things if need be.

I spent Friday building the HG Kampfer. sort of gave up on the major paint stuff, and seam removal. tried focusing more on flash removal, light sanding. I still have to do some panel lining and minor detailing. um the decals seem kind of complicated to put on with the water so I might skip out on that. I enjoyed putting this one together.Hey, your Kampfer looks amazing! ;) I don't do a lot of seam removal anymore. Most modern kits are engineered so that the seams aren't as seemly. It's more necessary on the older ones from the 90s and back. I will glue the pegs down on occasion though, it helps to keep kits feeling sturdy and not like they'll crumble apart.

Also, I'm not convinced your kit comes with waterslides? IIRC it's pretty uncharacteristic for HGs to use water slides. Looking at dalong (http://www.dalong.net/review/hg/h89/p/h89_r_f.jpg) it seems like those are not water slides, but simply transparent stickers? Usually water slides have a blue backing; and regular stickers have green. Water slides are also labeled with Japanese writing saying they're water slides, so look for the symbol 水 that's a dead giveaway. If they're just regular stickers, you just peel them of and smack 'em on your kit. One bit of warning with those clear stickers, is that you should avoid touching the adhesive side with your bare hands as much as possible; the oils on your fingers will ruin its adhesiveness and cause it to pop off your kit. Most people recommend using tweezers or a hobby knife to take them off the decal sheet/apply them to your model.

I look forward to more pics of your kits! Keep up the good work!

Kirin
09-11-2016, 09:34 AM
That Kampfer is sweet, I've always liked that family line of suits. I have a Gouf Custom from 08th MS Team in my backlog pile, but it's an older HG kit so will probably need some help with paint and what-not.

I've used toothpicks to wrangle some of the teeny-tiny stickers on some of my kits with some success.

s p a c e f o l d
09-12-2016, 01:47 AM
Thanks y'all. I have a few more kits coming in, but I may need to slow down on the purchases. It's really fun, gets me nostalgic and watching gundam, but "plastic crack" is an appropriate tag.
I've been watching IBO when it airs on Toonami and it doesn't seem too special, but some of the mech designs are pretty sweet!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tdQLcajRnD0/VlxrLLeSx2I/AAAAAAAACwQ/82Rf8-nF_fA/s1600/DSC_2961.JPG
from google. these ones just remind me of pre-hd console polygons. like virtual on or something.

Oh yeah and the Kampfer does have stickers.
thanks for telling me about how to apply them too. I probably would have used my fingers.

WisteriaHysteria
09-13-2016, 08:15 PM
Thanks y'all. I have a few more kits coming in, but I may need to slow down on the purchases. It's really fun, gets me nostalgic and watching gundam, but "plastic crack" is an appropriate tag.I promised myself I would stop buying gunpla a few months back until I became a little more financially secure and also worked through my backlog. And in the past week or two I've made some very expensive mistakes... It's a VERY addicting hobby for me.


I've been watching IBO when it airs on Toonami and it doesn't seem too special, but some of the mech designs are pretty sweet! ...these ones just remind me of pre-hd console polygons. like virtual on or something.I like some of IBO's designs, and some of them I find disposable. A number of them look really good (like the Graze), but others feel like rejected designs from G-Reco. I just wish they spent less time doing slight Graze and Barbatos variants in order to milk the same gunpla runners over and over again, and gave us some better variety. It's actually like night and day comparing the crazy variety in G-Reco and GBF to IBO.

...thanks for telling me about how to apply them too. I probably would have used my fingers.I just didn't want you making the same mistakes I did. I learned those lessons the hard way. That VF-31 I built, the stickers are peeling up in a number of places because I was making that mistake early on. :( A topcoat would probably solve these problems, but I'm very hesitant to do that.

s p a c e f o l d
09-22-2016, 02:36 AM
I didn't really build anything last weekend. Went to a B&N to see if they had kits, but the one near me doesn't :( .Instead I bought some micron pens and I went back to an 1/144 hg rx-78 I built a few years ago when I originally tried getting into the hobby.

http://i.imgur.com/qfzwAwA.jpg?1
It's one of the gunpla starter sets. came with a gray gundam pen, but I wanted to see how the black micron looked on it. The panel lining is a bit excessive, but it's a pretty cool way to get newbies into using the pens. There's still a lot of flash, but it's not so noticeable on the white parts. also kinda want to paint the eyes with paint marker but I can see myself getting really frustrated with that fast.

Kirin
09-22-2016, 07:57 PM
Finally got back for a moment to complete Kamiki Burning - Burst Mode. Did a few marker touch-ups on the main model as well as breaking out the effects parts...

http://i.imgur.com/kFasLWjl.jpeg http://i.imgur.com/pU2Pcytl.jpeg http://i.imgur.com/PraVqr3l.jpeg

s p a c e f o l d
09-22-2016, 08:22 PM
Looks like s lot of fun! I dig all the clear plastic.


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WisteriaHysteria
09-25-2016, 07:21 AM
Kirin did you paint the scabbard there? Looks rad.

I think I officially have a problem.

http://i.imgur.com/sdUB5Z9l.jpg

Kirin
09-25-2016, 03:08 PM
Yeah, the scabbard and sword were the one parts of that kit that weren't faithfully color-molded, being entirely gray and white respectively. The gold paint marker I thankfully had handy really pops on 'em, though sadly during the process I also discovered my gunmetal gray Gundam marker has dried out at the tip too much for the paint to flow. I was meaning to research that online, but you know what the best way to try to get it going again is? Can I stick the tip in some sort of solvent? I'm assuming just water might be a bad idea.

Nice on the T&B kits. How much did you pay for 'em? I wouldn't mind a Bunny to go with my Tiger, but I haven't seen 'em again for as low as I paid for him on sale at a con one year.

WisteriaHysteria
09-25-2016, 05:16 PM
I've actually read that moistening it in rubbing alcohol (I use the 90+% isopropyl stuff) does the trick, but I've never tried it. Makes sense logically however, since all you need is to get it moistened up again to make the paint flow once more, and paint in Gundam markers are alcohol soluble so it shouldn't have any bad reactions to the paint itself. If you try it, lemmie know how that works out; that trick should work for most pens actually, not just Gundam markers.

The Wild Tiger kit MSRPs for like 3800 yen, and I basically paid face value for it since the kit is relatively popular and stock of these kits aren't the greatest. The Bunny kit tho, someone on Amazon was selling them for $25 with like only 1 or 2 left in stock so I nabbed both. Price has gone up a little since then but it's still pretty reasonable for a MG kit. One thing though is do you have the MG, 1/8 scale kit? Or the other Figurerise-6 1/12 scale kit that's more of a HG? Those are typically cheaper, and the 1/12 scale kits have the motorcycle double chaser you can buy on the side to put them in.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71k%2BLcDX35L._SL1500_.jpg

I almost went that route but again the 1/8 Bunny was on sale and that tipped things. Plus the 1/8 kits have faces under the masks which are fabulous, as well as Good Luck Mode. Might get the 1/12 kits later anyways because my gawd that double chaser.

Kirin
09-26-2016, 10:08 AM
Oh, yeah, mine's the Figure-rise6 version; no face underneath, and no Good Luck Mode (though it does have the Wild Shoot gun), but still an awful nice build for essentially an HG kit.

WisteriaHysteria
09-28-2016, 12:09 AM
I dunno what your price expectations for the matching Bunny kit would be for you, but Amazon has them for sale, either directly from them (~$18 usd) or shipped internationally from venders (~16.50usd): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091O16RW/

Seems like a pretty standard price range for HG kits and not much, if any markup.

Man, I complained just a few days ago about how I have a problem, and I just went and put down money on the Active Raid kits that are out, as well as a set of expansion armor for the VF-31J:

http://d2ev13g7cze5ka.cloudfront.net/ban/bann09073_2_1467785060.jpg

And now Bandai goes and announces the VF-31C for Mirage. This hobby will be the death of me.

Kirin
09-28-2016, 11:10 AM
Huh, ok, I must've been accidentally looking at the other scale kit for Bunny when I saw something more expensive. Though it's a pity the matching bike/sidecar add-on kit costs more than both characters combined.

I was wondering if Bandai would already have out the VF-31 Super Parts that only showed up in the final episode just now, heh.

... Mirage VF-31 you say?
...... how much did these cost again?
......... *looks it up on amazon* ... fuck.

WisteriaHysteria
09-28-2016, 07:25 PM
Ya... Plamo is expensive. There's ways to make it cheaper, but you've gotta shop around. The double-chaser for Tiger & Barnaby you can find on a lot of import sites like HLJ or whereever for ~3,000 yen. And the Bandai 1/72 Macross Delta kits ~4k-4.5k yen. But the shipping on that will basically bring the price up to what you find on Amazon. Sites like HLJ are worth it if you're buying multiple things at once, because the price on shipping only goes up marginally if you're buying more. Bringing the price per item down significantly. Of course, then you're spending even more money on the whole. It's a struggle. If you're patient though, the prices on the Delta kits will probably come down a little as people begin trying to rid themselves of excess inventory and other factors, but who knows how long that'll take.

Finished working on my latest build: the MG Gundam Double X. I really don't have a lot of complaints with this one. Just like the X, this kit is really well designed and a lot of fun to put together. My only real critique is that the backpack is pretty heavy, and causes the kit to slump backwards if the solar panels and canons are tucked away. But who would display it like that, when it could look boss like this?

http://imgur.com/RICI7SBl.jpg (http://imgur.com/RICI7SB.jpg)

All-in-all, a gorgeous kit. Why exactly isn't Gundam X popular??? This is so rad...

Kirin
09-29-2016, 09:11 AM
Yeah, most of the Gundam X variants look sweet, but I've never run into one while making impulse purchases so I don't have any in my pile yet...

Kirin
09-29-2016, 02:18 PM
Whoops, speaking of impulse purchases I happened by a B&N today and accidentally gunpla.

http://i.imgur.com/4XYczr9l.jpeg

The Grimgerde just seemed like a neat mech to fill the "something that's not a Gundam or a Zaku" slot that I need occasionally to break things up, and the IBO 1/100s are nicely affordable. The other box is one of the little mini-tanks from Orphans along with some extra weapons for that series... whiiiiiich I'm not sure if I can use since I haven't double-checked if I actually have anything in HG scale of them, but what the heck it was like 6 bucks.

Also they updated their store display and it's still not the best posing but at least it's more interesting now:

http://i.imgur.com/npTkaBSl.jpeg

...and I have to admit whoever panel-lined the SD Strike Freedom has a lot steadier hand than I do.

Pity (or maybe a good thing) they didn't actually have that Fenice kit in stock or I'd have been tempted.

Kirin
09-30-2016, 07:19 PM
... but meanwhile I decided to start in on something else.
This... is a lot of runners. Probably the most of any kit I've cracked:

http://i.imgur.com/g7dNOzcl.jpeg

This is the Gundam Barbatos 6th Form 1/100. It seems like it also comes with instructions to make the 5th form (which is mostly just less armor, but a few swapped parts).

The problem with these IBO 1/100 kits is they're affordable but making me crave more MG stuff. Dangerous. The detail is pretty great. Anyway, just got started and made the skeleton frame for the torso and head tonight

http://i.imgur.com/ZmxVeBtl.jpeg

I love my gold metallic paint marker, it saves me from many awkward stickers.

Kirin
10-02-2016, 08:49 AM
Man, a 1/100 inner frame/skeleton is about as much work and detail as an entire 1/144 kit, huh?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtuTv0VXEAAnWur.jpg

s p a c e f o l d
10-02-2016, 10:43 AM
That's cool. I'm guessing the skeletons enhance posing? Those rg are 1/144 too right? And they have skeletons?i passed up on a 00 RG at b&n just cause I'm not sure I was ready to try RG yet/didn't know what kind of effort it would entail.


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Kirin
10-02-2016, 12:56 PM
I don't think I've done an RG yet either, though I'm pretty sure there's one in my stack, and yeah... that's gonna be a lot of tiny parts. Not all of the IBO 1/100 kits have skeletons; the Barbatos needs one so it can swap armor pieces in and out for the many different forms and load-outs it has - though the Kimaris that Zodar was working on a few pages back has one too.

WisteriaHysteria
10-03-2016, 01:27 AM
Man, a 1/100 inner frame/skeleton is about as much work and detail as an entire 1/144 kit, huh?I have a love/hate relationship with innerframes. On the one hand, they're so friggin neat to just look at, to build, etc. On the other hand, they're kind of a waste of me, since I'm never going to do the kind of battle damage customization where you'll ever see the vast majority of the inner frame besides the cracks and joints of the armor. The RE/100 kits are intriguing to me because on the outside, they have the scale and detail of a MG kit, but they lack inner frames, to help keep the complexity and price down. You tend to see this happen more often with some kits that lack conventional human body proportions or have transforming gimmicks where an inner frame is kind of pointless like recently with Amuro's Dijeh. Bandai is putting out a RE/100 Bawoo soon (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LEQL98U), and I can't wait to throw away more money at that.

... but meanwhile I decided to start in on something else.
This... is a lot of runners. Probably the most of any kit I've cracked:

The problem with these IBO 1/100 kits is they're affordable but making me crave more MG stuff. Dangerous.I really like doing MG stuff. They're real complicated, and include a lot of runners, and that's just really satisfying to me. They also take a lot more time to do, so your time per money averages out to the same with HGs. It's like the satisfaction of putting together a 500 piece puzzle over a 150 piece puzzle, though not nearly as frustrating or difficult. That's actually an impressive amount of runners for a No Grade kit; essentially MG level there. I'm gonna be putting this together next:

http://www.dalong.net/review/etc/mgf14/p/mgf14_runner.jpg

I don't think I've done an RG yet either, though I'm pretty sure there's one in my stack, and yeah... that's gonna be a lot of tiny parts. Not all of the IBO 1/100 kits have skeletonsNot to "ummm, actually" you, but all of the NG 1/100 IBO kits do have inner frames (http://www.dalong.net/review/ib.htm). There's 3 "different" Grazes that basically just sub out the top armor. There's 2 (soon to be 3) versions of the Barbatos that all share the same inner frame. The Barbatos actually shares the same inner frame as the Guison does, just with a small tweak. The two Kimaris share the same inner frame. And the Grimgerde has an inner frame.

On a side note, the IBO lines have been interesting because of what they've done with inner frames. The 1/100 IBO kits are essentially MGs, but more like early MGs rather than the recent ones that have incredible levels of detail nuance. But the large amount of them have corresponded with the simultaneous gutting of the MG line (there was only like 3 MG kits to come out this year) which is a sad thing to see. It is nice to have this amount of variety this quickly for a show, but a lot of it is based on being able to reuse a lot of the same runners over and over and that feels kinda cheap and lazy. Especially with the Guison, where they pack the original and "Rebake" version together, but only give you the parts to build one inner frame, so you're stuck with a bunch of useless parts afterwards. On the other hand, the IBO HG kits are pretty amazing for HGs. A good number of them have fully articulated inner frames which is a rarity. And they have really good levels of detail for HGs. So it's been weird. Then there's also the "Hi-Resolution" model grade they began making just for IBO, where you essentially get a PG amount of detail, in a 1/100 scale, at a PG price. And it's just super weird to see the Bandai attempt to shift the goalposts and price points in places that are in some ways good for consumers and in other ways bad.

Kirin
10-03-2016, 07:02 AM
Ok, my mistake, must've been thinking of some other IBO kits not from that line. And yeah, I saw the Gusion 1/100 at B&N and was trying to figure out if it was really both armor sets for one frame like that... not too sorry I passed on it then; it's an interesting mech but sounds like a pain to keep/display in that form.

You gonna keep us in suspense on what that 20-runner kit is?

Got through the torso, head, and arm armor on Barbatos last night. Amusingly the front chest plate is up to *three* colorful/detailed layers now, each covering up the last. You pop back off the outer Tekkedan-logo one and reveal a power-sign-logo layer to switch from 6th to 5th form, and even under that there's a piece I painted gold which is only visible on the bare inner frame. Does start to seem a bit like overkill.

Also ran into one weird color separation lack - the 6th form has big shoulder pads, white but with very large blue rectangles on the outsides, which for some reason aren't molded blue despite having a blue runner section in the kit. I guess the armor plate was just too thin for them to combine white and blue pieces? Surprising given some of the other feats of detailed color separation in this kit, though. Came with a couple big-ass stickers but fortunately I had a Gundam Blue paint marker that still works, so that solves that problem.

WisteriaHysteria
10-03-2016, 01:31 PM
The 1/100 Guison is a fine kit, I just resent paying extra for something you can't actually take advantage of. Like, here's all the extra armor pieces for making a Pepe-Gundam that are just going to either sit in a box or get thrown away because Bandai saw yen signs and only put enough runners for one inner frame in the box. It should have been two separate kits, or included two inner frames.

The lack of color separation is probably an engineering issue where the 1st form and 6th form use mostly the same molds with some slight changes. And it's cheaper/easier for Bandai to give you a sticker rather than change their molds. IBO and GBF has given me another level of appreciation for G-Reco in that G-Reco went out of its way to make as many crazy, completely different mobile suits; plamo considerations be damned. The results was an amazing lineup of mobile suits and all the HGRC kits for G-Reco all had to be painstakingly designed from scratch. Where as GBF and IBO, the mobile suit designs are pretty transparently designed by committee where they want to be able to reuse as many molds as possible. (Which is why we have a million Graze variants, and a Barbatos that slowly transforms through the show by simply slapping on other pre-existing parts from other mobile suits.)

You gonna keep us in suspense on what that 20-runner kit is?

http://i.imgur.com/Ms3TPAHl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/Ms3TPAH.jpg)

Kirin
10-03-2016, 01:44 PM
Ah. Yeah, that's a few more pieces than the 1/12 scale versions. ;)
Though I'm still impressed with the separation and engineering for something that fit on hardly more than 4 runners.

s p a c e f o l d
10-03-2016, 11:54 PM
Does any one have tips on flash removal? I'm using sand paper, but it looks like I'm scuffing up the surrounding plastic. I generally go:
1000 grit->1500 grit->180 FINE sanding sponge

WisteriaHysteria
10-04-2016, 01:01 AM
Ya I think the Figurerise 6 versions are still amazing. I'll definitely get them at some point. There's also a few alt-versions of them as well, so if you want an evil-Bunny, or the version from The Rising movie, there's that too.

Does any one have tips on flash removal? I'm using sand paper, but it looks like I'm scuffing up the surrounding plastic. I generally go:
1000 grit->1500 grit->180 FINE sanding spongeThree big suggestions:

1) If there's a decent amount of flash, start with a hobby/x-acto knife to shave it down first before sanding. 1000 grit is actually still very fine grit in the grand scheme of sandpaper, so it's not the greatest for reshaping plastic; you're gonna get a bunch of extra rubbing going on in an uneven manner as you try to rub down the flash, and hit the surrounding parts as collateral damage more than necessary.

2) Go deeper and get 2000 grit paper too. I've read plenty of opinions online that 1500 is "good enough" but I feel like I always leave scuff marks behind when I leave it at that. 2000 grit gets to the point where you'll start polishing the plastic. The hobby shops around me didn't have 2000 grit sandpaper (hell they didn't even have 1000 grit) but I found some in the automotive section of the local hardware store. It's even Nascar branded! 2000 grit is the level they use to buff and polish cars; works pretty well as a last stage for bare plastic models.

3) Go EVEN DEEPER and get some nail polishing blocks. From a beauty or a drug/convenience store. They're cheap and disposable. You could actually reasonably replace a lot of the sandpaper you buy with some of these. But the important takeaway is that most of these blocks have a final "shine" stage to them that's essentially just a rubber sheet. And rubbing that against your plastic once you've sanded it down will help with the discoloration of sanding and make the plastic shine again. There's all kinds of brand and types/shapes; the kind I get typically look like this:

http://i.imgur.com/txdsFlfl.jpg

Bonus #4) Pay attention to how you sand your kits from the beginning. This is just from my personal experience so it's ymmv, but when I only sand in one direction the entire time, I tend to get better results. When you sand in multiple directions, or start doing Mr. Miyagi swirling motions, I always feel like I create more scuff marks that become harder to buff out.

One thing I gotta caution you on all this sanding, is that even when you get it looking nice and polished, on the microscopic level there's still abrasions in the surface that will act like a sponge and stain your plastic if you're not careful when you're doing things like panel lining. So when you're panel lining with ink (or especially with paints/gundam markers like I do) you have to be careful not to get any on the parts you've sanded otherwise it'll stain the plastic there and leave a mark. I've made this mistake one too many times on accident.

That's all just my advice, but I'm sure there's way more ways to do this than my limited perspective. And don't be afraid to experiment! Building plamo is all a learning experience, so even if you mess something up, you can do better the next time. I look forwards to seeing your next projects!

s p a c e f o l d
10-04-2016, 01:43 AM
Awesome thanks! That's really helpful advice.


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Kirin
10-04-2016, 07:16 AM
Hat's off to both of your dedication with all that. I just don't have nearly the time or patience to be sanding down every piece of a model. I do take an x-acto to any significant bits of flash to try to slice them down as smooth as possible. I've also found a lot of the plastics on modern kits are just pliable enough that I can actually often scrape and smooth tiny flash remnants away with my fingernail! This is eventually murder on my nails of course, but I'll just trim them afterwards. And it works better on some colors than others.

One problem I do have, which maybe that nail buffer would help with, is certain colors lightening from stress-discoloration at the flash points, and still having a light spot after trimming flush with the hobby knife.

Kirin
10-04-2016, 07:36 PM
Annnnnd pretty much done with Barbatos. Though as usual I got excited and took photos right after finishing building, before deciding I wanted to put on a few bits of panel lining... though it really doesn't need much, just a few spots on the shoulder pads and antenna mostly.

6th Form:

http://i.imgur.com/NREWmZcl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1MjxDiEl.jpg

5th Form:

http://i.imgur.com/i1cGDaol.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iOtjXWTl.jpg

Spot the differences! It's not Gusion/Rebake, but there's quite a pile of extra parts in this kit. (The instructions also give some tips for swapping on various Graze parts, which I don't have. Plenty of options anyway.) Also the giant wrench thing ends up with a mechanism that extends/retracts the ratchet teeth when you open and close it - a little finicky to operate, but pretty cool. Pretty fun kit overall.

Kate or Die!
10-06-2016, 08:33 AM
If you're really nuts about smoothness (or want to get clear parts really clear) there are liquid polishes like Novus.

WisteriaHysteria
10-06-2016, 09:30 AM
Hat's off to both of your dedication with all that.Nah, I don't usually have the patience for that anymore a lot of the time. I will clean certain things up so it looks neat from the outside, but I've gotten pretty competent with just a knife so that I can handle most nubs with that alone. And most modern kits, the flash is either nonexistent, or strategically placed in such a way that it's either unnoticeable or forms a contour that could be mistaken for a detail. Your Barbatos looks great, BTW!

A little progress update of my own:

http://imgur.com/Vv8j4h3l.jpg (http://imgur.com/Vv8j4h3.jpg) http://imgur.com/In0LFQ0l.jpg (http://imgur.com/In0LFQ0.jpg)

Finished the inner frame for the MG Barnaby. It's a curious thing to me that the manual for this kit (and for the IBO 1/100 kits as well, I've noticed) have you build the inner frame first - everything else I've made with inner frames has you complete the kit in segments first. Also, holy crap is this a tall kit. Also also, not super happy with the decals to make the face details; they're already peeling up. I also took a break from building this guy and slapped together a Petit'gguy as a change of pace:

http://imgur.com/GbxpgGIl.jpg (http://imgur.com/GbxpgGI.jpg)

s p a c e f o l d
10-14-2016, 01:42 PM
I haven't gotten into that high level flash removal yet, but I sorta am developing a technique. Some plastics and colors are easier than others. some kits I've done the past couple of weeks

http://i.imgur.com/MEWJUXP.jpg?1



http://i.imgur.com/S1s8RME.jpg?1



http://i.imgur.com/l8cWmQp.jpg



http://i.imgur.com/GwqFE3N.jpg?1

I upgraded to these FG Zaku II. They're great! I highly recommend them if you want something cheap and don't mind painting. I have a lot of acrylic paint laying from when I used to study art, so it was perfect for me. maybe I should have gone darker with their torso, but overall Im really happy with how they look. They snap together pretty easily, no glue needed. I actually enjoy the painting so I might seek out more FGs, if the mold, and prices are right.

WisteriaHysteria
10-17-2016, 02:00 AM
:froth: Very nice work! Great job on the painting too.

Kirin
10-18-2016, 08:41 AM
Love the Crossbone, nice paint detail (I assume) on the skull, and the Zakus look great too.

Meanwhile, lesson learned on my part: apparently it's assumed that if you're nerdy enough to be buying extra accessory kits for your gunpla, you're also nerdy enough to want to paint everything yourself, 'cause this shit ain't color separated at all. The single color in this box is maybe the primary one for half the items it makes, if you're being generous:

http://i.imgur.com/8c81fBxl.jpeg

But what the hell, it was a good opportunity (without risking anything expensive) to see just how far I could push my basic paint marker sets.

http://i.imgur.com/GwrF63ul.jpeg

That's a Schwalbe lance (with separable short-barrel rifle), Graze shield, fuck off combo cannon + rifle for Barbatos, and a Mobile Worker. The lance is all blotchy because it's supposed to be light gray, which I didn't have, so I tried a single coat of white atop the dark gray plastic, but the Gundam White marker is particularly runny for some reason. The white bits on the cannon are 2-3 coats. I also didn't have anything like the correct sandy tan color for the Mobile Worker (I tried various layering of yellow, orange and white on scraps but nothing came out satisfactory) so I said fuck it and made Mobile Worker Hyaku Shiki, which actually came out looking pretty nice. It turns out a 1/144 Mobile Worker is really goddamn tiny, though.

http://i.imgur.com/LvCJADAl.jpeg

WisteriaHysteria
10-18-2016, 05:30 PM
Looking great, Kirin! I really like how all that turned out for you. I thought about getting one of those sets just for the mobile workers, but decided against it when I learned painting would be involved. I have a lot of respect and admiration for people willing to do painting, but I just don't have the patience or money to do it well.

Kirin
10-19-2016, 09:56 AM
Hah, me neither, totally half-assed painting is more my speed. But I was determined to get some use out of this kit, and also the amazing consistency of my metallic gold marker covers a multitude of sins. It's amazing how it can flow over model details but leave them visible. And if I want to touch it up even better (in places the marker tip can't reach), I've actually in the past managed to transfer some of the gold paint from the pen tip to a tiny brush, though I didn't break that out yet this time.

WisteriaHysteria
10-25-2016, 03:34 AM
It's amazing how it can flow over model details but leave them visible. And if I want to touch it up even better (in places the marker tip can't reach), I've actually in the past managed to transfer some of the gold paint from the pen tip to a tiny brush, though I didn't break that out yet this time.The way you describe it, it sounds like you have the pour-type gundam markers? IIRC, the intended use of them is exactly like you describe at the end - where you're supposed to pour it out into a little painting tin or palate and then use a brush. I recently bought a Gyancelot (https://www.amazon.com/Bandai-Hobby-Gyancelot-Gundam-Fighters/dp/B01GHDALUM), which will probably need me to pick up one of these gold markers to paint the gold trim if I want to avoid sticker-hell. Also, Gyans are the best.

A website I import gunpla off of sometimes - Banzai Hobby - is running a 30% off sale on pretty much all Bandai plamo. And I just broke my bank account. The way international shipping works though, it really behooves you to buy in bulk to spread the cost around. But yeah, just an example of how expensive my order was, I included an MG The O (for the low low price of $80+shipping; normally you'd pay ~$150 most places).

Kirin
10-25-2016, 10:23 AM
God help me, I was ordering some home supplies I needed at Amazon, and then added three more gunpla kits to bring my total over free shipping. -_-

At least this way I'm shopping around for good buys out of a wide selection, as opposed to impulse buying whatever catches my eye in stock at the B&N... that's probably better right? That's what I'll keep telling myself...

Kirin
10-26-2016, 08:51 AM
Next! Anyone wanna guess this one based on the runners?

http://i.imgur.com/zEZz3qIl.jpeg

Despite plenty of nice color separation, this design has so dang many fiddly bits there's still a sticker sheet running to almost 50(!) pieces. I don't have all the right colors, but I can still cut that down a lot with paint. A whole bunch of 'em are all these little shroud verniers:

http://i.imgur.com/sDxYtsRl.jpeg

That was while the yellow coat was drying, I touched it up with some fine black to sharpen the edges after. Meanwhile there's also a few cool detail bits that are great for some new techniques (spoilerpop'd because it mostly gives away the kit)


http://i.imgur.com/bz3dkP9l.jpeg
The best way to color the teeny skulls (this is the chest one, there's a forehead model that's half the size again) is to just slather 'em with black and then immediately wipe it back off all the raised areas. Works super well. Bit of smudges left over? Great, skulls ain't supposed to be clean! I think there's a "One Point Advice!" in the instructions encouraging this method, though I can't really read it because too much Kanji. Anyway, it's looking pretty nice when put together:

http://i.imgur.com/xJ810xIl.jpeg

s p a c e f o l d
10-26-2016, 03:18 PM
Sweet! it's already looking good. What a great design, cannot wait to see the rest. I've been watching some V Gundam, and some of the mechs are really cool. I wish bandai would do more post-CCA suits. I picked up some kits at hobby town this past weekend. it was a location that was relocating so 25% off everything. Not the cheapest, but comparable to amazon without having to deal with shipping.

WisteriaHysteria
10-26-2016, 11:07 PM
HGBF Crossbone Gundam X-1 Full Cloth? Lookan gud sofar!

I really need to finally sit down and watch Victory... I'll second the idea tho of more Late-UC. What I wouldn't give for some decent F91 kits...

Kirin
10-27-2016, 08:52 AM
Yup, Wist has the exact kit. Another thing I love about this one is there is no white color - it's been replaced with a pearlescent slightly-grey-blue-violet off-white that's pretty fun to look at.

Umbaglo
10-27-2016, 01:43 PM
I really have to find some time to get back to building, especially since I just got another shipment of kits from HLJ which included the Re/100 Efreet Custom (I love that this line keeps getting less common suits), a MG Full Armour Gundam from Thunderbolt, and a 1/48 Formula Skell from Xenoblade Chronicles X.

I really hope the Thunderbolt's armour attaches better then my regular MG Full Armour Gundam kit, where it's attached by double-sided tape instead of snapping in or something.

WisteriaHysteria
10-27-2016, 05:18 PM
I'm interested in how that Xenoblade kit turns out, Umbalgo! Pictures I've seen of it looks real nice, but I have no experience with Kotobukiya kits, and koto-kits tend to be real expensive.

I really appreciate the RE/100 line too. Seems like a nice way for them to get some MG-ish kits made on the cheap so they don't have to dedicate the same amount of effort/money into them. There's a RE/100 Bawoo coming out soon, and that's got me in full :froth:

From what I hear the stand for the MG Thunderbolt FA isn't great, the joint-cover things are a hassle, you have to be careful with some of the connection pegs in the arms, and you better like waterslides because that's the only option for decals w/ this kit. But the armor itself is probably A-OK. Things tend to fit real snug with modern MG kits.

Umbaglo
10-27-2016, 05:25 PM
I'm interested in how that Xenoblade kit turns out, Umbalgo! Pictures I've seen of it looks real nice, but I have no experience with Kotobukiya kits, and koto-kits tend to be real expensive.

Yeah, I have a bunch of Koto kits. They're... to put it in a way, they TEND to be HGUC scale, but MG build quality. They also use a... hm. A rougher? formula of plastic for the parts. It has a very different feel from Bandai's. Less smooth, feels denser.

Of course, since a lot of their kits are 1/144-esq and still MG price, that makes when they do 1/100-esq sizes QUITE expensive. But I find them generally well worth it. I've also got their 1/100-esq Anubus Orbital Frame sitting on a shelf near me waiting to be built, and that one is PRICEY.

I really appreciate the RE/100 line too. Seems like a nice way for them to get some MG-ish kits made on the cheap so they don't have to dedicate the same amount of effort/money into them. There's a RE/100 Bawoo coming out soon, and that's got me in full :froth:

Yeah, I love the Re/100 line for being a 1/100 scale, but also able to do different stuff. I appreciate that 1/144 allows Bandai to make less popular or more esoteric stuff economically, but I really don't like working at that scale. It just feels too small for me.

And yeah, I'm really excited for the Bawoo. I know I need to get one later on.

BŁge
10-27-2016, 08:21 PM
So does anyone here use airbrushes for model kit painting?

Kirin
10-28-2016, 09:44 AM
I've also got their 1/100-esq Anubus Orbital Frame sitting on a shelf near me waiting to be built, and that one is PRICEY.

Oh shit, I'm gonna be super jealous of that one.


Buge: there's definitely been times I thought it would be cool/useful, but I don't own one, so I haven't actually tried it.

WisteriaHysteria
10-28-2016, 03:13 PM
I probably could have bought an airbrush setup by now, considering how much money I've spent on model kits total. But I keep telling myself I can't really afford one, because a proper setup is really expensive. I'm not entirely broke, but I can't really justify to myself spending hundreds of dollars in one go on a single luxury item, especially when I'm largely OK with how Gunpla looks unpainted. Still, this hobby has nickle and dime'd me already; I probably should stop buying kits and creating a backlog and slowly save up for one, since I do have interest in painting eventually. It's also just kind of a paradoxical problem, because while I'm working on getting my personal financial situation into a much more lucrative place to easily afford these kinds of things, once I am though, I'll have significantly less time (and maybe even space) to actually make use of it. So for now I just look at airbrushing setups and other people's immaculately airbrushed kits wistfully, but continue the status quo.

Also re Umbalgo: yeah, I like the heft and added detail/color separation MG or 1/100 kits tend to have over their HG counterparts. And while you arguably can get more detail in an RG, they're also scary-flimsy, and I feel better about not breaking things with my ham-hands with bigger and more sturdy kits.

Also, I think it needs to be said just how sexy this kit is:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71gscSLDy7L._SL1500_.jpg

It's so weird! For whatever reason, they made the Bawoo extra thick, and it looks sooooooo good. I'm also collecting UC Protag/Antag suits to line up against each other, so this will be the perfect pairing for my ZZ.

Mightyblue
10-28-2016, 03:15 PM
Huh, never noticed the Bawoo had kanji on it like the Hyaku-Shiki.

Zodar
10-28-2016, 08:44 PM
I included an MG The O (for the low low price of $80+shipping; normally you'd pay ~$150 most places).

Don't tempt me with this evil

WisteriaHysteria
10-28-2016, 09:08 PM
Huh, never noticed the Bawoo had kanji on it like the Hyaku-Shiki.Probably was supposed to be a Char-suit too.

Don't tempt me with this evil
http://i.imgur.com/yt5SKwul.jpg?1

Umbaglo
10-29-2016, 08:27 AM
http://i.imgur.com/yt5SKwul.jpg?1

http://simchamber.net/uploads/1279464402/gallery_2_6_820992.jpg

The MG The O is a pretty neat kit, and certainly does a lot to help define a sense of scale.

BŁge
10-29-2016, 09:25 AM
No, see, I have an airbrush, I just don't know how to use it properly.

Kirin
10-29-2016, 10:43 AM
That is a sexy Bawoo up there.

Buge: Well if you've already got the expensive bits, I'd say maybe just get some cheap kits and experiment? Airbrush could really spruce up some older kits that weren't molded in great colors, and sometimes you can find super cheap old kits sitting around in the back of a hobby store or something.

WisteriaHysteria
10-29-2016, 05:13 PM
It's time to front like I've been there!

I've done a lot of reading on airbrushing things, so I can't offer any real advice from personal experience. But I can point you to some places to do some reading on your own and point out the biggest takeaways (and sorry if a lot of this is redundant info for you):


Make sure you're doing this in a well ventilated place and wear a mask.
Make sure to thin your paints appropriately.
Paint in thin layers to get a consistent color and prevent bad texture.
Keep track of the types of paint you're using between layers so that there's no bad reactions - certain types of paints and their thinners don't layer well and start mixing/dissolving the bottom layers.
Practice on things like disposable plastic spoons first so you can hone your techniques or get the pigment ratios right before going at your model.
It's relatively easy to strip paint once you've done it, so long as you use the right stuff, so don't worry too much about messing up. You can just strip and try again.
Acrylics are probably the easiest to begin with because the cleanup process is the easiest and least toxic.
Use lots of masking tape to maintain color separation on specific parts.


People seem to like using Hi Mocks (https://www.amazon.com/Bandai-Hobby-HGBF-Hi-Mock-Model/dp/B00P5R148U/) for painting/seam-welding practice, because they're very cheap, have a good mix details to practice techniques on, and LOL in-universe counterfeit gunpla. Any cheapo high grade though would probably be the best to experiment on after gaining some confidence with spoons.

Some good general gunpla guides I've seen floating about the internet, that include painting tutorials and all the prep work before painting:

http://funakatown.com/images/Building_Gunpla_Final.pdf
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1Tr8UyF2Xg5Ojqw0sxcO7oIG7IIsJPes3lMO5pHZKu5 o

Also don't be afraid to look up youtube videos too; several people make pretty decent guides to doing this or that, and it's pretty helpful to see someone actually doing whatever in order to copy it (which is how I got the confidence and learned to do panel washing for the panel lines).

Umbaglo
10-29-2016, 07:42 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv-55U2XYAADWZr.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv-55R9WgAA7XzR.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv-55R9XYAAOEWw.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv-55R_W8AAKpsY.jpg

Finally pushed myself to finish up this kit. I still wish I could get it in 1/100, but it's actually still large enough at 1/144 that I felt pretty good working with it. I also really like the way the G-Reco suits look, and I should probably pick up a few more once I pare down my backlog a bit.

Kirin
10-30-2016, 08:32 AM
I think I almost see a Gundam in that backpack kit!

But no, that's sweet. The G-Self is a pretty nice design, but I haven't some across a kit/price combo I wanted for it. Definitely some fun things in the 1/144 line from that show, though.

Speaking of fun things, after people here were talking up the RE/100 line I went looking at some on Amazon and kinda fell in love with this guy:
http://i.imgur.com/4jmzdRz.jpg
(MS-08TX/S Efreet Schneid)
Can't spend another $65 right now though. Maybe someday. Meanwhile I need to finish off my Crossbone before Halloween, just about down to weapons now but there are a lot of 'em.

Umbaglo
10-30-2016, 08:39 AM
Speaking of Re/100 and Efreets! I felt really good after finishing up the G-Self last night, so before I went to bed I started up the Re/100 Efreet Custom and finished it up this morning.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwBsIaYWgAAWyyy.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwBsIaZXgAMMUtY.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwBsIaZXgAE5T2-.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwBsIaYWAAA1LzI.jpg

I know I've extolled my love of Re/100, but man. I just love that line so much. Solid build quality, easy construction, and willing to do more uncommon stuff. This kit also came with a small booklet that seems to be a chapter of the Blue Destiny manga, which was cool.

Kirin
10-30-2016, 09:44 AM
You are a model building machine. I assume that's without any painting or anything fancy, but still.

s p a c e f o l d
10-30-2016, 03:51 PM
That efreet is super cool. After my most recent builds, the larger sized kits are starting to become more appealing.
I picked up a few HG thunderbolt kits.
it's interesting how different thunderbolt zaku looks from most zakus. The hose arms are kinda weird to me.
http://i.imgur.com/M5zoXoy.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/eKqeURV.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/50Wsbjg.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/J6lgNqC.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/XzEHrV0.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/54fMude.jpg?1
I really liked the thunderbolt anime, and am pretty satisfied with the kits, but they seem to have a lot of small detail work...with stickers. the big gun zaku was okay, i painted and markered most of the small details. full armor gundam had a lot more stickers, but i markered everything but the shields. I might paint the shields later. The psycho zaku looks like it has a ton of stickers, so I'll probably put that off for a little. I like how over the top these mechs are. the full armor gundam broke the peg on one of my action bases. didn't see how it happened but found the model on my desk with peg stuck in it's crotch, guess it's a little too heavy for the smaller action bases, but it looks great with the large bases.

Kirin
10-30-2016, 08:44 PM
Niiiiice. That is a whole lotta mech.

Meanwhile, I just got my project finished in time for Halloween!

http://i.imgur.com/GRd6emLl.jpeg http://i.imgur.com/Zk6UaE8l.jpeg http://i.imgur.com/3RTzZbcl.jpeg

Another fun build but oh god there are so many fiddly little details to this design. Even with the decent separation *and* 50 stickers (most of which I painted, except my red marker wasn't fine tipped enough to do the shroud stripes), still about every time I looked at it I'd see one more little thing I wanted to paint. Some of the weapons especially needed a lot of attention. Speaking of weapons, though, it certainly came with enough: crossbow-caster thing, frikkin enormous broadsword, two regular beam sabers, actual sabre-shaped beam saber, beam shield, pistol, two daggers, two beam-fist bits, (you can also use parts of the shoulder pauldrons as skull-themed boxing gloves), and two foot-daggers that attach to the boot soles and could only be used with a display stand. *whew*

Mightyblue
10-31-2016, 07:27 AM
Well, yeah, that's the Crossbone X1 Full Cloth for you.

s p a c e f o l d
10-31-2016, 12:31 PM
Good job with the crossbone. It is a good kit for this time of the year. That pearly gray/ white plastic is really nice. The cloak reminds me of master gundams cloak thing. I like how all the later uc suits consistently have those energy shields too. Is their one resource that's better than all the others for reviews or info on kits? I kind of just YouTube and Amazon review everything.


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WisteriaHysteria
10-31-2016, 02:22 PM
What I wouldn't give for an MG G-Self...

I like the backpack gimmicks; I'm not as much a fan of the G-Self itself changing colors to fit the backpack. In the show, you could reasonably guess that it's just lighting casting different colors on the suit. But for the plamo itself, it kinda sucks you can't just plug any old G-Self into any old backpack and have it work. I will also never stop lamenting how the HGRC line got cut short. It's a shame we never got the High Torque Pack, and the Reflector Pack (my favorite) is a P-Bandai exclusive.

Efreet Custom looks really good! But it's begging for some panel lining! So many wonderful little surface details that are ripe for some contours to be painted in.

I really like the designs and illustrations of Yasuo Ohtagaki in Thunderbolt. And I like what he did playing with the canon of the UC too. So GMs are flying death traps, yet the Gundam gets a new replacement shield all the time? Why not just strap like two or four to each mech and up their survivability? It really just makes more sense. And the modern approach to directional thrusters/verniers slapped all over the kit makes more logistical sense for things flying around in space too. Ohtagaki does great illustrating work. I still love what he was able to do with Front Mission, and Moonlight Mile is amazing. The upcoming MG Psycho Zaku looks ridiculous.

Man, the Crossbone X-1 Full Cloth is so neat...

Is their one resource that's better than all the others for reviews or info on kits? I kind of just YouTube and Amazon review everything.I use http://dalong.net/ - Good luck if you don't know Korean, so the body of the reviews are pretty useless. But this Korean super-fan pretty much buys everything that Bandai puts out, plus some extra, so there's a pretty extensive catalog of information for Bandai kits, including documentation, box-contents, how things will look after a straight-build, size comparisons and contrasting with similar kits, etc. Even lots of info on rare/old FGs and stuff! And even if you can't read the reviews, the pictures are usually pretty self-explanatory with regards to pointing out a kit's flaws/weak points, or the range of motion you can expect. It's an impressive resource/catalog, and it's pretty easy to navigate, esp when there's English menu options as well. My only critique is that sometimes it feels like dalong uses a digital camera from 2004, but it's more than functional enough.

WisteriaHysteria
10-31-2016, 03:53 PM
Same-day delivery w/ Amazon Prime is dangerous...

http://i.imgur.com/rQx4uMGl.jpg

tsukame plamooooo...

Umbaglo
10-31-2016, 06:43 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwI-xGcWcAAF8d-.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwI-xEtXYAAuYrs.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwI-xEuWAAAqVKz.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwI-xEqXgAAG_Pl.jpg

So, one thing I think is cool about Koto kits is that they tend to be good about the base colours of all the parts, but that ends up meaning that the parts are a lot more... randomly? Strewn around the runners, unlike Bandai's stuff that ends up being more uniform. That said, there's a bit of painting I could do at some point still for the weapons.

The Skell can stand on it's own without the stand, which honestly exists more as a balance aid then an actual stand. The MG Qan[T] has a similar one for it's sword. But I think you will have much better luck posing by using the stand. The limbs are also very loose and wiry, though they manage to hold pretty well. It's more that I found them hard to get just right.

I really hope Koto makes more Skell kits, because this one is so good. And it doesn't have enough weapons, either. I really want to get the bunny Skell at some point!

Also, one of the best things about the kit:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwI-_LdWgAE61_s.jpg

Kirin
11-01-2016, 08:16 AM
Nice. After all the Gundams it's interesting to see a kit with such a desaturated color scheme.

I didn't mention it above, but the Crossbone X1 Full Cloth is really kind of a pain in the butt to pose. The tons of accessories give you lots of possibilities, and the multiple cloak sections give you enough freedom to do most things, but trying to get everything positioned in and around the cloak is really finicky. On mine for whatever reason the right shoulder pad + cloak really liked to pop off, so it's usually easier to just remove it and put it back on last. Once you get everything set, though, it's quite solid and generally stands fine on its own - or if you do have a tippy pose, I found you can hook the curved saber to a belt connection and use it trailing behind as a third balance point.

Kirin
11-02-2016, 07:57 AM
So after all the complexity of Crossbone, I decided to take a break with something a bit more... compact. This one should be pretty easy to guess from parts...

http://i.imgur.com/zNfD0u8l.jpeg

Kirin
11-03-2016, 08:18 AM
Well this was a nice quick build... except for the tons of panel-lining, but I got kinda into the zone and even did the soles of the feet for some reason..?? Also painted in all the many little verniers and such.

http://i.imgur.com/0DubPVLl.jpeg http://i.imgur.com/ibAoOLUl.jpeg http://i.imgur.com/gIgknxBl.jpeg http://i.imgur.com/yZt6SYel.jpeg

I love the rotating mono-eye, which I assume is probably standard on Zeon kits, it's just been a while since I've done one. Especially nice how easy it is to manipulate in SD proportions, though. The launching bits effect is also a nice touch for such a small kit.

Umbaglo
11-03-2016, 11:51 AM
At some point one thing I really will have to get is a proper panel liner. I keep just ignoring it because I don't have one, and certainly it'll help make the lines show up easier.

Traumadore
11-03-2016, 01:33 PM
No, see, I have an airbrush, I just don't know how to use it properly.

I'll add some to what Wisteria said.

You still need to base-coat your models when you're using an airbrush, otherwise you can scratch paint off easily. I would recommend against using any thinners or oil based model paints and sticking to acrylics. This will reduce your health hazards and simplify cleanup considerably. You will still want to either work in a vent hood or wear a respirator while you're spraying. Even without solvent based paint you'll still get fucked up by heavy metal pigments that are in a lot of colors. You can use a gloss clear coat at the end if you want that shiny enamel paint look.

I use Golden High Flow acrylics, and Golden also makes an airbrush medium that you can mix other acrylics in to get them fluid enough. I use that most often with Vallejo paints, which come in little dropper bottles that make it easy to get the right amount and minimize waste.

Otherwise it would be useful to know what you have in terms or airbrush and compressor if you're having issues with clogging, clumpy spray, etc.

WisteriaHysteria
11-03-2016, 01:50 PM
I consistently read Vallejo acrylics are the paint of choice when using acrylics with model kits. And definitely use a topcoat when done with acrylics, acrylic paint tends to be much more fragile and prone to flaking/cracking in general. You may want to use a combo of gloss or flat. I really like the way flat coats look, especially with Gundams because then they look more like little cartoons popped into reality. But using gloss coats would be necessary if you plan on doing panel washing for your panel lines (which you'll need to do some kind of clear coat in between your paint and your panel lines).

At some point one thing I really will have to get is a proper panel liner. I keep just ignoring it because I don't have one, and certainly it'll help make the lines show up easier.I do panel washing, because the results are so fresh and clean. But there's a million ways to do panel lining that give good results. Markers/ink pens are pretty easy and cheap. Of course there's Gundam markers, but micron pens work just as good if not better. And Lots of people swear by simply using a mechanical pencil.

I really should stop being a lazy ass and take some pics of what I've been working on...

BŁge
11-03-2016, 04:43 PM
I consistently read Vallejo acrylics are the paint of choice when using acrylics with model kits. And definitely use a topcoat when done with acrylics, acrylic paint tends to be much more fragile and prone to flaking/cracking in general. You may want to use a combo of gloss or flat. I really like the way flat coats look, especially with Gundams because then they look more like little cartoons popped into reality. But using gloss coats would be necessary if you plan on doing panel washing for your panel lines (which you'll need to do some kind of clear coat in between your paint and your panel lines).

That's fine for Gundams, but the type of model kits I own are like this (http://amberstudios.deviantart.com/art/Evil-Homura-Ninja-257205223).

WisteriaHysteria
11-03-2016, 04:54 PM
The process involved shouldn't be any different with other types of models; masking will just be a bit more complicated, and you'll probably have to hand-paint certain small details.

Kirin
11-03-2016, 07:44 PM
Hey, here's another quick question for the crowd. Now that I'm back in the groove (totally finished more kits in the last six months than the previous, uh, decade - hooray unemployment I guess), I'm gonna start pulling some of the older, less user-friendly kits out of my stack. First one I grabbed totally has a bunch of water seals, and I haven't dealt with those in aaaages. Anyone got a favorite tutorial for making them behave? Thanks.

WisteriaHysteria
11-03-2016, 11:55 PM
This was a tutorial I used:

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Mark Softer helps if the surface is curved; a top coat will keep it all down firm. Depending on the surface you're applying to though, neither may be necessary.

I like this guy's tutorials. His little demo on panel washing gave me the curiosity/courage to try it myself, and I've never gone back.
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Snapped together the HG G-Self w/ Atmospheric Backpack. G-Reco designs are so good, and the G-Self is my favorite Gundam in ages.

http://imgur.com/NKNoyx1l.jpg (http://imgur.com/NKNoyx1.jpg)
http://imgur.com/fLd7AU6l.jpg (http://imgur.com/fLd7AU6.jpg)
http://imgur.com/eOWmws0l.jpg (http://imgur.com/eOWmws0.jpg)
http://imgur.com/mjyOgSXl.jpg (http://imgur.com/mjyOgSX.jpg)
http://imgur.com/7lnO6kXl.jpg (http://imgur.com/7lnO6kX.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/CLfdea9l.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/CLfdea9.jpg)

The kit itself is real nice. There's a few points where there's no color separation and no stickers/decals to make up for it, which is annoying, and the articulation isn't the greatest, but otherwise it looks great. Gave up on getting a few panel lines done, and accidentally assembled the arms wrong, but nobody would be the wiser if I didn't say as much. My biggest takeaway though... I...I just really want an MG G-Self. :(

Kirin
11-05-2016, 10:37 AM
Hah, whoops, it turns out the sheet I thought was water slides when I looked at it late at night was actually just transparent stickers. But, Wist, thanks for posting those tutorials anyway, as it turns out I've switched to the second panel method he described and it's perfect for the kit I'm working on now.

I happen to have a medium gray soft marker, and doing the dab-on-wipe-off method works great on this light-colored base. A lot less effort than actual panel-washing, but looks great. The remaining lines can vary in weight a bit, but if you want the kit to look a little old/weathered (which I do for this one) that's more of an advantage than a liability.

http://i.imgur.com/BUK4Nrhl.jpeg

s p a c e f o l d
11-06-2016, 01:10 AM
That gray on blue looks so good. I'm really digging all the recent pics/activity. The G-Self/atmospheric backpack is reminding me how much I appreciate Mobile suit back pieces. I just want kits with big awesome jetpacks now. Maybe thunderbolt has something to do with that too.

Sooo I got the RG Zeta Gundam and it's looks cool, but the stuff everyone says about it being fragile is accurate. sorta wish I went with the HG version, but once it's on an action base it's okay...I also pulled out my HG rick dias, which i assembled a few years back. I cleaned it up a bit. Rick Dias is my favorite zeta suits, but I didn't know much about flash removal and sanding when I first built this specific kit.
https://67.media.tumblr.com/de806bc83155e00de46fbd1e9a0b29bd/tumblr_og7shho2cI1t3hjf3o1_1280.jpg

Kirin
11-06-2016, 07:06 AM
Nice. It's probably just the lighting, but Zeta's blues look so super-saturated there which seems somehow appropriate.

Btw, Wist, I appreciated your recreation of the iconic 'floating down towards the camera' pose from the G Reco opening in your 2nd-to-last G-Self shot.

I wanna work more on my current kit but I'm thinking I may go catch a matinee of Dr Strange today and have some other stuff to catch up on so I dunno when I'll have time...

WisteriaHysteria
11-07-2016, 03:42 AM
Sooo I got the RG Zeta GundamLookin' great! The Rick Dias too! I'm with you btw, Rick Dias is an amazing mobile suit. Do you plan on using all of the decals for the Zeta or do some of its panel lines? Also, I must echo your earlier sentiment too, I'm really enjoying looking at everyone's model kits and living vicariously through you guys! It's so much fun.

Btw, Wist, I appreciated your recreation of the iconic 'floatng down towards the camera' pose from the G Reco opening in your 2nd-to-last G-Self shot.Ty! :D Did you spot the other one?

Went through and built the HGRC G-Arcane. The mechanics/engineering of this kit is very solid, and it's got a lot of nice options that come with it. My only real complaint is that the gunpla line was cut short before we could get a Full Dress add-on. I've also never been a huge fan of the color scheme for the G-Arcane either. The orange is dope; the grey doesn't contrast or complement it well however. It's a great design, it just needs a repaint. I wish they'd used the G-Self Reflector Pack's (http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/gundam/images/d/d0/G-Self_Reflector_Pack_Front.png) color scheme for this kit instead; especially because the purple complements its feminine physique a lot better. But anyways, pics:

http://i.imgur.com/3Vggqonl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/3Vggqon.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/YHbjlbXl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/YHbjlbX.jpg)
The G-Arcane has a big gun. What you don't see is it comes with another gun that's the same, but is turned into a giant beam-broadsword. It's kinda unweildy.

http://i.imgur.com/EteO5jGl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/EteO5jG.jpg)
The G-Arcane also has these nifty beam-whips. Regild Century's more crazy weapons tech is pretty wild. It feels less at home in Gundam and more like it should be in Eureka Seven.

http://i.imgur.com/LkNnIrTl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/LkNnIrT.jpg)
The G-Arcane also also wik can transform into waverider mode, which is pretty sweet for a HG. It's not a flawless transformation though; you have to take out and then insert a special piece. And now some pics for fun:

http://i.imgur.com/EirdTsBl.jpg
つかめプライド
http://i.imgur.com/NHEMAIKl.jpg
つかめサクセス
http://i.imgur.com/81aIhu5l.jpg
元気のGは
http://i.imgur.com/vRWikQal.jpg
始まりのG
http://i.imgur.com/xRi7Ub2l.jpg
Gのレコンギスタ
I think the next kit I'll get and work on will be a G-Lucifer to complete the Megafauna crew.

Kirin
11-07-2016, 09:05 PM
Finished a kit almost half as old as I am...

http://65.media.tumblr.com/5b232fa2d3ec8b518e969290ac3c7d4c/tumblr_ogaxopfMlR1ql53c3o3_540.jpg http://67.media.tumblr.com/eaa7981d99a03d550c24611e6aab1982/tumblr_ogaxopfMlR1ql53c3o4_540.jpg
http://67.media.tumblr.com/174e75fa239d7408699c64f2db8159dd/tumblr_ogaxopfMlR1ql53c3o5_540.jpg
http://65.media.tumblr.com/e9e0bc48479db0ae02fe1fb8a9209cdd/tumblr_ogaxopfMlR1ql53c3o1_540.jpg

MS-07B-3 Gouf Custom from 08th MS Team.

Nothin' like a 20-year-old kit to make you appreciate modern conveniences. Newer instruction booklets are laid out *way* more clearly. The biggest pain though is older runner molds aren't as finely crafted and pretty much require clippers and knife trimming on every single piece - of course I have those tools on hand for any kit but on modern ones more often than not I can be lazy and do most of it with my fingernails. Not this one.

Finished product is solid but not terribly mobile/poseable. Limbs have a lot less range of motion than modern kits. I like the accessories, though, even if they're a little old fashioned - the bendy wire heat-rod is pretty great, and the combo shield/machine gun is cool and solid even if part of it wasn't molded in the right colors.

Final pose is an attempt to imitate the great old-school box art: http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig01/10011172.jpg

s p a c e f o l d
11-07-2016, 10:20 PM
Sweet gouf! It's interesting how kits age. Even as an older kit, the sculpt is really cool. I was looking at the HGUC Gouf revive and it has all the bells and whistles of a newer kit I assume? the only thing is that I don't like the revive's head sculpt. snout looks too long.

The G-Arcane is really cool. something about the overall design and proportions make it kinda cute. Reminds me a little of something like medabots or LBX or some franchise that's more modern. I do wonder what a different color scheme would do for it, but your kit looks good. You can pose the fingers?

and yeah i might do some panel lining on Z gundam. There's a lot of details, so I'll see how it looks. I might avoid the stickers. I didn't like a lot of zeta gundam's suits at first, but modeling has made me appreciate those designs more. Some of them look really great in 3 dimensions. Maybe this is a stretch, but I feel like some zeta mechs looks a little like japanese cars from the 80's, the kind people associate with drifting. Just a lot of angles and flat surfaces. I really want to see an HGUC Dijeh now...
EDIT: Oh yeah in thinking of zeta suits I realized, is the thing on the Rick Dias head a SPOILER? like they mount on back of cars??? That's AWESOME.

Kirin
11-08-2016, 09:44 AM
Oh yeah, speaking of older kits, one thing I didn't mention that came with the Gouf that you don't see as much in modern HG was a lot of extra optional stickers. In addition to the required Zeon logo and couple orange panel bits you can see on the front, there were about a dozen extra labels, mostly the usual little hatch warnings and call-signs and such. I put an "MS-07B-3" on the backpack (and then neglected to take any back photos) but left the others off as it seems like a ton of detail would kind of conflict with the old-school look it's got going on.

And speaking of stickers... while contemplating next projects I cracked open the box of a Real Grade Char Zaku II I've had in my stack for ages and holy shit. In addition to a zillion parts the thing has literally over a hundred stickers. It's one of the designs with tiny text and greebles absolutely everywhere, and since it's still 1/144 they're absolutely minuscule. Whoof. I don't think I'm gonna dive into that next (one Zeon suit at a time), but that's a project for... someday.

Kirin
11-16-2016, 09:13 AM
Next kit! After two very panel-line heavy projects (the Gouf and the SD Sazabi) I decided to pull out something with almost no panel lines because the whole kit's already black and dark gray. One of the few good things to come out of Age:

http://i.imgur.com/lC1l6zul.jpeg http://i.imgur.com/54OqAPMl.jpeg

http://i.imgur.com/CPVIJ6Cl.jpeg

Sure, AGE-2 Dark Hound is kind of a cut-rate Crossbone, but that's still fun times. Love the grapple, and the joints on this one are pretty nice (and much easier to deal with than the Full Cloth X-1).

The thing that really impressed me with this kit, though? Holy shit, I came with a stand rather than asking you to buy it separately. Not only that, but the stand has compartments and hooks for most of the optional parts including extra hands, so you don't have to keep track of them. Genius.

Oh, it also 'transforms' into a waverider mode, but it's a very cheat-y transformation, removing all the limbs and some other parts, adding an entire new piece, and reassembling. I haven't even bothered doing it.

s p a c e f o l d
11-18-2016, 12:02 AM
That's pretty cool. I like how this mech has a pirate hat and the hook looks pretty nifty. I went to a barnes and nobles in a neighboring city the past weekend. So far it's the only B&N carrying gunpla that I've found. they have a lot of dbz and sailor moon stuff too + comic book merch. I was there for like an hour and quite a few people looked at and bought gunpla. a couple of dads with their kids, and then a couple of older fellows. Mostly I saw IBO kits getting bought. wonder how B&N has turned out for bandai? I really hope it's been good. I was surprised to see anyone checking out models.
I added a gun tank to my collection
http://i.imgur.com/xrd2Dr4.jpg?1
also picked up an f91. I sorta messed up one of the wing attempting seam removal, but this ms still looks goooood.
http://i.imgur.com/LC2kvfO.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/7AcY3oK.jpg?1

Kirin
11-18-2016, 09:36 AM
F91 is cool. Is it noticeably small to build? I've never had one, but in all the crossover games it's so so tiny next to most of the other models.

This morning I fell down a Gundam marker rabbit hole on Amazon. I have a shopping list full of a ridiculous number of things now, but I still haven't found the first thing I was looking for - I had a "gunmetal" thick marker that was perfect for painting, well, parts supposed to be bare metal, but I used it a bunch years ago and now its dried up. It came as part of this basic marker set (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009AFN0S/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1PLJ4DKPCYP5L&coliid=I2O8KI0LG81H8W), and that's still the only way I can find it - I don't see any standalone gunmetal color (and none of the other colors in that set have run out for me yet so it seems a waste to duplicate it). Closest I came up with is this "mecha gray" marker (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0018R5BG2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1PLJ4DKPCYP5L&coliid=I14OWK3F8CZ625), but I'm not sure it'd have the same finish.

Of course, since I was searching now I also want a panel-line set, a metallic set, a Zeon set, maybe a Seed set, a "real touch" set for weathering, and suddenly there's north of sixty bucks worth of markers in a list, which, uh.... no. Must. Restraint.

s p a c e f o l d
11-18-2016, 11:54 PM
F91 is cool. Is it noticeably small to build? I've never had one, but in all the crossover games it's so so tiny next to most of the other models.

Yeah it's pretty small here's a quick reference for you.
http://i.imgur.com/tigzHfN.jpg?1
It has some trouble with holding it's wings as a weapon. there's really only one way it can do that which is basically the photo I posted earlier. I had a lot of trouble with the white plastic + the way the wing seams seal. tried sanding away the seams, did some damage then tried repairs with model model putty and paint. It's not that much better. The main body does a good job about hiding seems and all that, but the wings are not on the same level.
http://i.imgur.com/JZWTrkX.jpg?1

Umbaglo
11-19-2016, 09:33 AM
This morning I fell down a Gundam marker rabbit hole on Amazon. I have a shopping list full of a ridiculous number of things now, but I still haven't found the first thing I was looking for - I had a "gunmetal" thick marker that was perfect for painting, well, parts supposed to be bare metal, but I used it a bunch years ago and now its dried up. It came as part of this basic marker set (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009AFN0S/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1PLJ4DKPCYP5L&coliid=I2O8KI0LG81H8W), and that's still the only way I can find it - I don't see any standalone gunmetal color (and none of the other colors in that set have run out for me yet so it seems a waste to duplicate it). Closest I came up with is this "mecha gray" marker (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0018R5BG2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1PLJ4DKPCYP5L&coliid=I14OWK3F8CZ625), but I'm not sure it'd have the same finish.


The one I would have recommended to you would have been the GM22 metallic grey, but I looked at both HLJ and Amazon and couldn't see it still in stock. You might have to go with a bundle set, like that starter or the metallic Astray bundle (https://www.amazon.com/GSI-Creos-Gundam-Metallic-Marker/dp/B00KBRFOIU/ref=sr_1_4?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1479576579&sr=1-4&keywords=Gundam+Marker). It's odd, though. I can see more specialized sets like the LBX paint marker kits going out of production when the kits themselves do, but I wouldn't have expected any Gundam Marker to, unless it was directly replaced.

Also, hm. Now that I look at it as well, there's a pretty decent selection of Gundam Markers available on even Amazon.ca. HLJ still seems to have better prices, but maybe the shipping will be better through the Amazon Marketplace.

Kirin
11-19-2016, 10:13 AM
Yeah, a bunch of the markers on Amazon (but not all, so you have to be choosy) get lumped into the free shipping over a certain order total deal, so that helps a lot.

I saw the metallic set and it's tempting, but honestly I already have fairly decent gold and silver from a non-Gundam US paint marker set, so I'm really looking for something darker. (And the red/blue/green metallics, while super cool, would see very limited use unless I decided to go for some especially crazy custom paint jobs on something).

WisteriaHysteria
11-19-2016, 04:18 PM
@Kirin - that's an AGE kit? Man, I really need to sit down and watch AGE someday... Speaking of AGE kits, I got my hands on one recently; I'll be making it in the not too distant future.

@s p a c e f o l d - F91 is super dope; yours looks great. The VSBR guns/veriners on the back are super unweildy though. On my MG one, they're just as finicky. Also, I hate to be the bearer of bad news/nitpick, but I think the shoulder-wing-things are backwards on yours.

Mightyblue
11-19-2016, 06:09 PM
Man, AGE. Arc 1 is passable to eh, Arc 2 is actually pretty good, Arc 3 completely shits the bed.

E: Kirin's model is an Arc 3 retrofit of an older mech.

Kirin
11-20-2016, 06:52 AM
Yeah, what blue said. Wist, given how much you complain about sub-par Gundam plots, I fear AGE might make you burst a vein if watched all the way through. The half-decent stuff comes from S2, even when it's in S3. The 2nd-gen hero is basically the only one who's not insufferable.

I need to make decisions on these damn markers so I can break out some old old kits. Prob won't happen 'til after Thanksgiving though.

Umbaglo
11-20-2016, 08:30 AM
I started this up before I went on a trip, and finished it up when I got back. I really like LBX kits, and am really sad that they're discontinued and hard to come across anymore. They're awesome looking and so easy to construct!

First up is the first LBX of the hero's rival in LBX Wars, the third show. This show is ESPECIALLY goofy with how seriously it takes the ridiculous premise of the franchise, but I liked it a lot.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxt_kSLUUAIz2AX.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxt_kSLUUAAxRKC.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxt_kSJVIAALJMC.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxt_kSEUsAINqJC.jpg

Next up is the rival's faction's Riding Armour. Basically power armour for their action figures. Because why not!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxt__7aVQAAU2jm.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxt__2LUAAE6C1D.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxt__0SUUAEyDbJ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxt__0OUAAA3ftC.jpg

Kirin
11-20-2016, 11:02 AM
That design really takes the standard Gundam "skirt" concept all the way up to "evening dress", huh? Not that I'm criticizing. BTW, tiny suggestion: it looks from the close-ups like you've got some bronze paint you already used on the hat and cuffs, so if I'm seeing that right in the package art it looks like you could take it to the skirt hem as well. Unless that's just weird lighting.

The ride armor is something else.

WisteriaHysteria
11-20-2016, 04:40 PM
Umbaglo, those kits look nuts. If you told me they were something out of TTGL I would have believed you.

Umbaglo
11-25-2016, 05:00 PM
This past week, I finally really got into a groove of working a little bit in the morning before I went to work. I did that a bit with the Gunther, but LBX kits are already really short.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyJki-eUsAAztc1.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyJki-ZUAAA1pbT.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyJki-iUsAA9SBe.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyJki-gUcAAdgc4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyJk67vUcAAbhda.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyJk67DUAAAES6m.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyJk6rTUsAABcSg.jpg

I think it looks good, and is probably the best "Full Armour" style kit I have. That said, it still has some of the same problems that FA kits have, such as a lot of the armour parts being held onto the model with hopes and prayers. Regardless, I liked this one a lot.

Mightyblue
11-25-2016, 05:57 PM
I didn't think the assault shroud was that bulky?

Umbaglo
11-25-2016, 06:05 PM
It doesn't really come across as very bulky to me, which is interesting for being a FA kit. But it does FEEL bulky when it comes to the movements of the kit itself. Well, that's also related to how FA parts are usually held on with wishes and dreams, but you do get some dramatic loss of mobility with the Assault Shroud on, and there's a few parts you just can't move at all without them knocking the AS parts off.

Some of which are kind of expected, but some of them are weird. Like the saber mounts are effectively immobile once you put the backpack on, since even trying to rotate them jostles the thrusters out of place. And the front skirt armour is literally held on with prayers since the holding rods are utterly useless and don't actually reach the holes they're supposed to lock into.

Kirin
11-27-2016, 07:21 AM
Okay, finally ordered a bunch of new markers from Amazon. However I also same-day preordered FFXV, and most of the markers are shipping from Japan so they won't get here 'til after it, so, uh.... it might be a while 'til I actually find time to build more kits. :|

WisteriaHysteria
11-29-2016, 01:03 AM
FF15 is going to put a pause on my building too. Which is going to be hilariously bad, because I'm slowly getting a buttload of kits making their way over the Pacific via SAL, creating quite the backlog.

Umbaglo
12-02-2016, 04:42 PM
I started on this a bit ago, working on it bits at a time before work, but decided to just finish it up this afternoon because I'm going to be out of town all next week. This was a really weird kit! It has a lot of Kotobukiya's normal design tricks, but it also does things like have parts intentionally not line up correctly because that lets them connect to a covering part that masks the seam. I was also especially impressed with the way they had the chest plates layer over each other in order to get that look.

It was certainly expensive, but very much feels like it costs that much.

It's also possibly the best Freedom Gundam model kit I have. Except for maybe my PG Strike Freedom.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CytjZ-3WEAA411_.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CytjZ-6XEAAqEnZ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CytjZ-4XUAEd8T5.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CytjZ-3XcAANsr4.jpg

Kirin
12-03-2016, 12:27 PM
Niiiice. Love me some ZOE.


Meanwhile, not that I'm getting to it for a while because games, but here's what I picked up for half price on Black Friday. Anyone ever built a kit from "wave corporation"? 'Cause I sure haven't.

I also wasn't even sure what modes this supported - cracking it open and looking at the instructions, the main book just has you building Battroid mode (and that's all the pics on the box are), but then there's a one-page supplement that has some instructions for Gerwalk.

http://i.imgur.com/WUlc4v5l.jpeg

Mightyblue
12-03-2016, 01:06 PM
But they didn't have FAST/Super packs until after Roy died (yes, I know Hikaru/Rick takes over the plane after, buuuuut)?

Kirin
12-03-2016, 01:09 PM
I think they had them from the beginning in movie continuity. *shrug*

"Flexible" does not even begin to describe the concept of Macross canon, basically.

Mightyblue
12-03-2016, 02:22 PM
Yeah, I know. It just bugs me. :P

WisteriaHysteria
12-04-2016, 03:47 AM
I really dig the Anubis! I hope to buy a Jehuty some day, but the version I want is mad expensive. They're really cool kits though. I saw a guy somewhere panel line his Jehuty with bright blue ink and it looked sick. You HAVE to get some flourescent red paint to panel line your Anubis with. I picked up a Dolores not long ago on a discount, but I don't think there are nearly as many panel lines to paint on that one.

Bandai had an event not long ago announcing a bunch of new gunpla. Lots of IBO kits, lots of HGUC stuff I don't particularly care for. But a lot of really cool shit. For starters, they announced this which gets me SUUUUPER hot and bothered:

http://www.taghobby.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/image-57.jpeg

Then there's all this:
MG GM Sniper II:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-r-WXNsH6N20/V-R2k9lQz1I/AAAAAAALFKc/nDeIFU1dY8w6eIDMpKcIeLruSsxJ5x8SACLcB/s1600/Cs_0MH1VMAAJk8P.jpg

HGUC Barzam:
http://www.taghobby.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/335.jpg

HGBF Papa'gguy:
http://www.taghobby.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/image-90.jpeg

New Flavors of Petit'gguys:
http://www.taghobby.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/image-92.jpeg

MG GM II (AEUG Colors):
http://www.taghobby.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/image-58.jpeg

HGUC Atlas Gundam:
http://www.taghobby.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/image-75.jpeg

HGUC X3 Crossbone:
http://www.taghobby.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/qq1.jpg

HGUC Zaku III:
http://www.taghobby.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/image-62.jpeg

RE/100 Hamma Hamma:
http://www.taghobby.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/image-35.jpeg

HiRM Gundam Wing Zero:
http://www.taghobby.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/image-88.jpeg
The amount of ZZ love Bandai is gracing us with in the near future is extremely heart warming, and extremely :froth:

Kirin
12-04-2016, 09:45 AM
Oh man, that MG GM Sniper II looks real pretty and is *exactly* the same color scheme as the 08th MS Gouf Custom I just built... bet they'd look great facing off.

HG Barzam looks sweet as well. Atlas seems a bit less insane than I was hoping (looks like maybe some of the zillion sphere joints have been reduced to more manageable cylinders?) but could still be fun.

And what the hell is HiRM grade?

Of course I won't be able to afford all of those that look cool, but we'll see where things are at once I cut down my current backlog some more (after I finish FFXV and maybe Last Guardian probably...).

Umbaglo
12-04-2016, 01:53 PM
Yeah, if I can find something for panel lining, I'll probably give that one a try. OFs just don't look right without the energy lines.

WisteriaHysteria
12-04-2016, 04:26 PM
Yeah, if I can find something for panel lining, I'll probably give that one a try. OFs just don't look right without the energy lines.I always advocate panel washing, because then you can just select/mix your preferred color and let it drip/flow down the panel line grooves. If the panel lines were on white or light plastic, I'd recommend maybe just getting fine tip pens in the color you want from brands like copic or micron, but pretty much only paint is going to show up well on the dark plastic of the Anubis.

Atlas seems a bit less insane than I was hoping (looks like maybe some of the zillion sphere joints have been reduced to more manageable cylinders?) but could still be fun.

And what the hell is HiRM grade?Atlas looks like the Atlas. I doubt all of its joints will be poseable, but I think the design of the mech/kit looks great... so long as you give it a good looking color scheme. Its manga color scheme however is atrocious, because I guess that's what you gotta do when you make a manga...?

HiRM - Hi-Resolution Model - is Bandai's newish premiumish line of gunpla they're trying to force out on the market. The long story short - it's PG detail and PG price in a 1/100 scale kit. So far, there's been only one - the Hi-RM Barbatos (http://www.dalong.net/review/ib/hirm01/hirm01_p.htm), but making a Wing Zero tells me they plan to keep trying to grow the line.

http://www.gunjap.net/site/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/barbatos.jpg

They look like metal-build kits, but there's mostly plastic parts. It's kind of a bummer because if the Barbatos is any indication, the skeleton of the kit comes pre-made:

http://www.dalong.net/review/ib/hirm01/p/hirm01_runner5.jpg

I think they look real nice, and I can see the appeal (especially when you lack space to show off PG kits) but I kinda hate them. Bandai opting to bypass MG IBO kits in favor of 1/100 NG kits, plus this, is kind of a troubling development for me. I LOVE the MG line. The IBO 1/100 NG kits are OK, and offer more detail than HGs or past 1/100 NGs, but they don't stack up in quality and color separation and detail to actual MGs. What this signals to me, and lots of other observers, is Bandai attempting to see if they can phase out the MG and PG lines, which I would find deeply upsetting. This is pretty apparent, IMO, when the last few years their output of MG kits has been dwindling, but suddenly they begin pushing these NG and Hi-RM 1/100 kits. I can see why they'd want to do this from a production/distribution standpoint. MGs have gotten more complex and required bigger boxes on average lately, and PG boxes are humongous. When detailing with physical goods and retail you always have to consider the volume of physical space these kits take up on shelves and in warehouses. If they could trick people into accepting across the board downgrades in quality, while keeping prices high and reducing the amount of inventory space all these things take up, it's a win for them. But MGs are at the sweet spot for me in terms of price and detail and how much fun they are to build. And none of these newer options really replace that, because I'm not spending PG prices, never mind for a downgrade in the kit's size, detail, and building experience.

Kirin
12-05-2016, 09:09 AM
Whoa, yeah, having a pre-built frame is just... really weird. Like halfway to just buying an action figure. Plus if I'm going to pay crazy PG level prices I'd at least like to end up with something suitably imposing in scale. Do not want.

Umbaglo
12-09-2016, 02:12 AM
So, I mentioned that I was going to be out of town this past week. What I didn't know was that the place I went to had this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzN8eUyUsAA_yJX.jpg

On one hand, thankfully I came with an already packed suitcase, so I couldn't just load up. On the other, there were SO MANY kits that I can't find through my normal channels. Prices were mostly competitive, too, which is super nice compared to most physical shops.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzOe-SyVQAA4D4_.jpg

I ended up picking up a 1/20 Scopedog Red Shoulder Custom and a MG S Gundam (to go with my MG Ex-S Gundam). And also FINALLY a few panel liners since they had Gundam Markers for a really good price. Now for the fun times of playing suitcase Tetris to get everything packed again...

Dracula
12-09-2016, 05:48 AM
My latest gunpla:

http://68.media.tumblr.com/a35af92c9d29465184f2aa3d05b0e0a8/tumblr_ogo0zpwG4a1r7gehbo6_1280.jpg

Kirin
12-09-2016, 10:03 AM
Umbaglo: Oh my GOD, that store would kill me, I'm pretty sure.

Drac: That looks awesome! Love the weathering - is it all just strategic dabs of silver paint alongside the panel lining, or did you do anything else sneaky? I may have to try that, starting with some old cheap kit so I'm less afraid of mucking it up. :p
(And what version of Grimgerde is that? Just a custom build with decals from something else?)

Dracula
12-10-2016, 08:50 AM
Drac: That looks awesome! Love the weathering - is it all just strategic dabs of silver paint alongside the panel lining, or did you do anything else sneaky? I may have to try that, starting with some old cheap kit so I'm less afraid of mucking it up. :p
(And what version of Grimgerde is that? Just a custom build with decals from something else?)

Thanks!! It was just a regular ol' silver sharpie for the weathering effect. It ended up very bold and cartoonish, and I was happy with that. The rest of the kit was painted with Mr. Color and then top coated. I also recommend the Tamiya Weathering Masters for easy weathering and shading. This guy uses them to great effect (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvC1xXiVfBj0mEvqda9RcKw).

It's the 1/100 Grimgerde with some USAF decals I picked up at a hobby store. Here are a couple more pics:

http://68.media.tumblr.com/050ed5b764ad7dc8aaeb4e7ef125250f/tumblr_ogo0zpwG4a1r7gehbo4_1280.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/3a607c43bef8f14530e88e5048061b01/tumblr_ogo0ud1XfI1r7gehbo5_1280.jpg

WisteriaHysteria
12-10-2016, 10:05 PM
@Dracula - Great job on the Grimgerde! I think it turned out real nice. The sharpie gives great results too. I was reading about weathering techniques using rock-salt to simulate paint chipping, but this looks easier and basically as good.

@Umbaglo - Those kinds of stores are dangerous, but I think I could make it out alive because of sticker-shock. Buying online has become ridiculously easy/cheap. Places like Banzai Hobby make me never want to buy a kit at a brick and mortar store ever again. Especially when SAL small-packet is pretty cheap/competitive shipping, and the prices online are so much less, and especially when (thanks to the election) the value of the yen to the usd dropped significantly.

Edit: OMG I just discovered Mandarake just updated their website with a pretty functional English interface... this is so dangerous... shit is soooo cheap

Umbaglo
12-11-2016, 06:33 AM
The thing is that the prices there were even on par with what I would get if I was buying from HLJ (generally speaking). Like, the S Gundam and the Scopedog were actually a little above the norm, but those kits were also out of stock the last time I looked (and to be honest, I double-checked as I posted this, and the Scopedog is back in stock). Most other kits were basically on par with HLJ, with a little variation above and below. Especially common and big-ticket kits.

Like, I wish that import stores near where I live had prices like that. I'd TOTALLY go to them more often and support them if so, but I also understand that the economics of it just don't work out that way. These stores would be buying so few kits at a time that if I'm paying X to have them imported and shipped to me, there's no way they're not paying much less then that in the first place. The Gundam Base beats that by not only being very close so that shipping is much cheaper, but stocks enough that they would get economy of scale to help keep their prices low.


But also yes. If a place like that was close to where I lived, it would be maybe too dangerous to me. Even better/worse? I only found the place in the mall I was in because I saw a Tamiya store and was trying to find it's entrance, when I turned the corner and there it was.

Umbaglo
12-13-2016, 12:26 PM
My Christmas leave has begun, so I wanted to start it off with some kit building!

This time I put together another LBX kit: The Magna Orthus, which is the rival's upgrade in LBX Wars, after he joins the heroes' team. In addition, I also put together the prototype power armour that the heroes built, which was the predecessor to the one I had built previously.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzlRWGbWgAAk8D1.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzlRWFOWQAAk4YK.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzlRWE-XAAECfoq.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzlRVTxW8AEcEBM.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzlRy6nW8AE70bn.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzlRy5bXgAQ6OcZ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzlRy5TWgAU88DP.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzlRy5bXcAAkvl6.jpg

Dracula
12-13-2016, 01:07 PM
I don't really know anything about LBX, but those sure do look neat!

Kirin
12-14-2016, 09:03 AM
Yeah, I definitely dig the cute li'l purple Orthus.

Umbaglo
12-15-2016, 08:54 PM
I thought that the Giant Bomb Mario Party Party 9 was going to be a lot longer then it was, so I prepared to build a kit during it, since those streams are typically houuuuuuuuuuuuuuurs. It ended up being short, so I just finished it up.

I put together that 1/20 Scopedog I picked up while travelling, and boy that's a really awesome kit. It's basically a MG in size and build quality, and has a lot of those cool little internal details I love in the fancier MGs, like internal paneling and wiring that you can't see without removing some of the armour, or opening the cockpit up.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzxSKIVUsAAQuGn.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzxSJqQVQAArp5p.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzxSJsNUkAA1MJT.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzxSJrgVIAAdqEA.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzxTHoVUQAAMo3F.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzxTHo5VQAAA1n5.jpg

It also has some of the interesting little pilot figures that we used to see in older MGs and normal 1/100s, but have fallen from favour ever since the SEED years. Maybe I'll paint these at some point, but even painting the one in the cockpit reminded me that I don't have a proper brown Gundam Marker right now, and I should probably fix that.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzxTHp6VIAEXBrb.jpg

And even though this is the only full-scale AT I've built so far, I've seen the descriptions on others and one of the things I think is cool about AT kits in general is that they have these goofy little sockets and a socket wrench for attaching them, and leaving an appropriate bolt knob on the armour, instead of using regular pegs. It's a really cool addition, even if they're super hard to manage, and require a lot of care.

All in all, I liked this kit a lot. And it's been too long for me to not have a proper Scopedog kit in my collection.

Kirin
12-16-2016, 08:09 AM
Noice.

That also seems like a great kit to try some weathering effects on, given how grungy Votoms art usually is.

Dracula
12-16-2016, 08:12 AM
Noice.

That also seems like a great kit to try some weathering effects on, given how grungy Votoms art usually is.

Have I pimped these out yet? (http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/87080weathering/)

I haven't used the sticks, but I've used the masters a lot. Really excellent for basic weathering effects.

Umbaglo
12-16-2016, 04:27 PM
On a roooooooooooooooll.

Was thinking of Build Fighters earlier, so I decided to finally build the HG Tryon 3 I've had sitting around for a while. It's not a bad kit, but it's also kind of complicated. Both because it seems that HG ZZ was complicated, but also for the extra stuff to have the 3 component parts. Transforming isn't... hard, but is more then I feel like doing right now.

Also, it's not possible to have it do the pose without an effect stand. Even making it hold the sword at all is barely possible.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz1mcM5WQAA0C5_.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz1mcM5XUAAO8SC.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz1mcM4XAAA0oA4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz1mcM9XEAAWTrv.jpg

Dracula
12-16-2016, 07:56 PM
I absolutely loved the Tryon-3 episode of Build Fighters. Say what you will about Try, but that one episode makes the entire series worthwhile. I was super pumped for the kit and I ended up fully painting it:

http://68.media.tumblr.com/de662c70784ae9570834a764039909f6/tumblr_oe335uzog31r7gehbo3_1280.jpg

It honestly stressed me out and I got really sick of it by the time I was finished. I don't even have it up on my shelves because all I see are the flaws.

At least I got to take this shot, thought:

http://68.media.tumblr.com/44fc375d1aa74f0d6f0800be9b07d226/tumblr_oe335uzog31r7gehbo8_1280.jpg

Umbaglo
12-16-2016, 09:02 PM
Yeah, I can understand that. Even when I'm not going all out, it's stressful to try and paint, or do much more then the basics. Sometimes that's what I want out of my project, and sometimes I just want to use the project in order to relax.

Either way, though, your work looks beautiful. Excellent job! Maybe someday I'll get to that level, but for now I'm happy enough where I am.

Kirin
12-17-2016, 09:29 AM
Yeah, that's some gorgeous work there Drac.

WisteriaHysteria
12-18-2016, 11:57 AM
Try was great. Haters gonna hate. Both your Tryon-3s looks great btw. I wouldn't have seen the flaws Dracula, had you not said they were there. I was repulsed by the Tryon-3 at first, but I really have warmed up to it. Not surprised to hear how finnicky the plamo is though. The ZZ is an amazing robot, but its design leaves it very unfriendly to making sturdy plamo. Really hoping decades of accumulated design knowledge turns the ZZ ver Ka into something neat on the level of other recent ver Ka kits.

Quick question: how much am I missing out by having never seen Votoms? Scopedogs look neat, but mostly because they remind me of the mechs from Elemental Gimmick Gear and Sakura Wars.

Umbaglo
12-20-2016, 06:13 AM
Quick question: how much am I missing out by having never seen Votoms? Scopedogs look neat, but mostly because they remind me of the mechs from Elemental Gimmick Gear and Sakura Wars.

Votoms is one of my favourite mecha shows, but I think that Armoured Troopers manage to stand on their own designs as appealing. I really like the Scopedog because it feels more "real". The show goes into that a lot, too, with the robots having very low life expectancy, even if Chirico is immortal because of a goofy plot device.

You would miss the big joke about the Red Shoulder Custom without having seen the show, though. You might have even noticed the oddity between this one and my last Votoms build. The Red Shoulders were a vicious military unit that were identified by their red right shoulders, and Chirico was a member of them before. When Vanila put together a custom Scopedog for Chirico, he knew that Chirico used to be a Red Shoulder, but painted the left shoulder red by mistake.

The Votoms op (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8hwDQJRU7E) is also iconic as all heck, being the opening theme to almost every single Votoms thing.

Dracula
12-20-2016, 06:37 AM
Yeah, I can understand that. Even when I'm not going all out, it's stressful to try and paint, or do much more then the basics. Sometimes that's what I want out of my project, and sometimes I just want to use the project in order to relax.

Either way, though, your work looks beautiful. Excellent job! Maybe someday I'll get to that level, but for now I'm happy enough where I am.

GUNPLA IS FREEDOM.

Really, though. That's the thing I like about the hobby. Most kits, especially newer ones, you can build right out of the box, do absolutely nothing extra, and still end up with something very satisfying. And I totally agree re:relaxing.

Case in point, over the weekend I went out to a local comic store for a gunpla build day.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15492436_10209746846280992_4437631086534177916_n.j pg?oh=c2aeed9c643e78b5d77d9ee937404bcd&oe=58F63256

Each of us has a different approach to building, and we all get the same enjoyment out of the hobby. (I built the Revive Hyaku Shiki and brought my older HGUC Hyaku Shiki for comparison. The others that were built that day were the GM Quel, the Gunner Zaku Warrior, and the Gyancelot.)

WisteriaHysteria
12-20-2016, 09:00 AM
The design and details on the HG Revive Hyaku Shiki are really effing good, but the color is absolute ASS. If you can afford to do so and have the equipment, you should get yourself some of the new Mr. Color "Hyaku Shiki Gold" paint.

http://www.gunjap.net/site/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/20160904190551a06.jpg

The results are fantastic:

http://www.gunjap.net/site/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/yv17015.jpg

Dracula
12-20-2016, 09:11 AM
Oh, nice! Yeah I agree, the color is among the worst I've seen. I was already planning to paint it, but probably just by mixing the color myself. A local hobby shop has Mr. Hobby stuff, but they don't have the Gundam colors. I'll have to hunt that one down.

Excitemike
12-20-2016, 09:14 AM
Please, "Mr. Hobby" was my father.
Just call me Art.

Kirin
12-23-2016, 07:45 AM
Well, that didn't go so well.

All the Gundam Markers I ordered a while back had come in so I was excited to start in on this old-ass 1994 kit. This one really *does* have water-slide decals, which will be a challenge later, but mainly I was looking forward to taking my new markers to all this single-color plastic:

http://i.imgur.com/GYs356wl.jpeg

Unfortunately, it turns out this kit is so old that... it's not really snap-fit. Like, you put the pieces together and they don't stay. I presume it need some sort of glue. Anyone got tips on that?

I thought about using superglue, which would probably technically *work* but be a bit tricky to deal with and be massive overkill. And it turned out my one tube of superglue had gone dry anyway. So, for now, back to a nice easy 2016 kit:

http://i.imgur.com/JnFHR8El.jpeg

Grimgerde skelly be sltylin'

http://i.imgur.com/iwBYZjCl.jpeg

Traumadore
12-23-2016, 09:15 AM
Rubber cement/model glue. You should be able to get it at any place that sells any kind of model, or any hardware store, discount store, drug store. Most stores. These snap-fit, multicolored model kits have made you all weak!

Edit: I'm just kidding, they're cool. It is fascinating to see a really different approach to making models though.

Umbaglo
12-23-2016, 10:04 AM
Yeah, I picked up a little jar of plastic cement that's used for regular model kits, and it's been handy at helping to either reinforce a connection or to fix a mistake I've made. I don't glue much, but it's been good to at least have the opportunity in case I mess something up. It doesn't really seem to dry out either, but it's fumes are intense.

WisteriaHysteria
12-23-2016, 12:13 PM
Important note:

Rubber cement is a distinctly different from plastic cement. Rubber cement is a lot like super glue in use and form: it's a binding agent. You can totally make models with it, but I personally advice against it since it can be messy, and you can accidentally glue the wrong things, and you don't want it on your fingers/clothes, and you can have issues with a fog that forms surrounding the glued parts.

Plastic cement is what you want - it's a solvent that temporarily melts the plastic at the molecular level, allowing the plastic of two pieces to mix and become one. Once it evaporates (you'll want it to set for a few hours) it hardens back up and binds two pieces of plastic together permanently. This is the stuff I use:

http://i.imgur.com/GXTLTfZl.jpg

The orange bottle on the left is what you probably want to be using for firmly bonding parts together for your old Zaku, Kirin. The stuff on the right is a thinner, more dilute version that doesn't bond things as hard. It's good for touch up work after the fact. I use it every now and on loose pegs as well to keep a model firmly together. You can use other brands, in my experience though the stuff that comes in tubes are so powerful that you risk turning your models into molten lumps and these liquid versions are better. Also, the fumes on these are, while technically not hazardous to your health, smell very noxious/strong and it's probably best to be on the safe side and do this kinda work somewhere with some open ventilation. Here's a little tutorial video to show you what you're doing and give you some confidence if it sounds daunting (because it's pretty easy stuff):

7AAIHO5IZqU

Giant box just arrived in the mail. I have a problem, and its name is Gunpla:

http://i.imgur.com/4Is7nnLl.jpg

Traumadore
12-23-2016, 01:03 PM
Huh, I didn't know rubber cement was different. I've used generic rubber cement in a tube from the hardware store on models and it behaves the same as tubes labelled as model glue. It is powerful, but it works fine on tabletop models where the plastic is much thicker. I could see how it would get out of control on Gunpla.

Kirin
12-24-2016, 09:20 AM
Plastic cement is what you want - it's a solvent that temporarily melts the plastic at the molecular level, allowing the plastic of two pieces to mix and become one. Once it evaporates (you'll want it to set for a few hours) it hardens back up and binds two pieces of plastic together permanently. This is the stuff I use:

Okay so... you need to let it harden for a few hours before you sand it or anything, but presumably it sticks well enough that you can continue binding on more pieces? Because almost everything in that kit is going to need it, and waiting a few hours between almost every step would sure be a drag.

The plastic cement does sound the best results-wise, but I'm also a bit concerned about the fumes, as I've been building kits in my living room. Rubber cement seems like a serious PITA for small pieces though with how goopy it is. I may be tempted to just go back to superglue, which the video guy talks about using sometimes just to hold pieces together. I dunno, we'll see.

Kirin
12-27-2016, 08:12 AM
Meanwhile, finished the kit I busted out instead because I don't have glue handy:

http://i.imgur.com/MPgMbYul.jpeg

more

http://i.imgur.com/XENeU1Jl.jpeg
http://i.imgur.com/ifFIQsNl.jpeg
http://i.imgur.com/RPNcboel.jpeg
http://i.imgur.com/Fh4UtX6l.jpg


Bonus vs the earlier-model Barbatos my wife just painted and put together:

http://i.imgur.com/HJevti4l.jpeg

Dracula
12-27-2016, 08:31 AM
Grimgerde is such a great kit.

And wow, yeah, that Ridden is old school. It may have been printed in 1994 but I'm pretty sure it's actually an early 80s-era kit. I am currently building a Guncannon II from that same time period. They're certainly not user-friendly and you pretty much need to do seam-line removal and lots of painting to get anything like a good result.

That said, I'm enjoying the challenge and I'm getting ready to put down my primer layer. I use Mr. Cement Deluxe, which is the plastic-weld type of glue that's been mentioned above. It comes with a nice applicator brush. Also, it sets pretty fast.

And yes it does give off some serious fumes. What I do is put all my parts in plastic ziploc containers after gluing. That at least contains the fumes, but you might need to open the containers outside or at least in front of an open window when you're ready to get back to them.

Also, got a 1/100 Gundam Virtue under the tree. Looking forward to that one.

WisteriaHysteria
12-29-2016, 01:25 AM
I still need to take photos of some past kits, but for now, I'll do my latest build:

Petit'gguy: Stray-Black & Catcos

http://i.imgur.com/OJARfPTl.jpg

Didn't get the matching dog'gguy, because I'm a cat-dude. This was a simple, easy kit. There's some slight design improvements over previous petit'gguys with regards to how the runners are designed, but if you've made a petit'gguy before, you generally know what you're getting into here.

Some buddies insisted I stream myself building lately so they could watch, so I obliged and set up a webcam via twitch, which.... was an experience. Not sure if I want to do more of that.

WisteriaHysteria
01-13-2017, 05:43 PM
Happy New Years! I really need to take pictures of some of the things I've built, but I've been either building, sorting out the disaster that is my living space, or being too ill lately to do as much. But here's to getting back into the flow of things!

A very kind and generous amigo as part of our small little gunpla xmas exchange bought me this GBF Kirara's Gerbera Tetra.

http://i.imgur.com/F5bdDBWl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/F5bdDBW.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/rP9e5iDl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/rP9e5iD.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/kjeo8YEl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/kjeo8YE.jpg)
This is a pricey kit for a high grade on account of being a P-Bandai exclusive. But if you think you can save money by buying the regular HGUC Gerbera Tetra and then painting it, you're in for a rude awakening. Because that kit is actually more expensive on account of scarcity, since Bandai apparently hasn't done a reprint in forever, and had a very low initial print. Plus, this isn't a strict palate swap; there's slightly different parts included for the head/antenna, which you'd otherwise need to scratch-build.

I really like the color scheme and the look of this kit. Plus, Build Fighters was aces. It was a lot of fun, but there was a LOT of little painting that was necessary to make it look screen-accurate. Some was unavoidable (anywhere in the pictures that has solid black, I did with gundam markers) on account of the details being small, but not flat enough for stickers/decals to do the trick. But the yellow parts? All should have come with stickers to do that. It would have been easy to do. Oh well. I'm reasonably satisfied with the end product, though I'm still not happy with how some of the panel lining on the legs ended up. This was also the first time I panel lined with brown. Didn't do it for the whole kit, but I wish I had, because it really contrasts the best against the pink and light pink, and black is a little too strong of a contrast.

Also not pictured: Any of the accessories or the optional booster rocket/fuel tanks on the back. I don't have a spare action base assembled to pose the kit on atm, which would be necessary for the boosters on the back because otherwise the kit would just fall over. Plus I don't really like how it looks anyways.

Dracula
01-13-2017, 08:43 PM
Looks pretty clean to me! Nice work! Love the pink mobile suits.

Umbaglo
01-15-2017, 12:53 PM
While I was watching the last day of AGDQ, I went and built another kit.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2PUlQfXcAARaRy.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2PUm8BXAAAS2d9.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2PUnmcW8AUD2JE.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2PUnmdW8AA0cUV.jpg

The S Gundam is one of my favourite Gundams, so I'm really happy to have found this kit. Wish it came with it's own stand like the Ex-S did, but the S Gundam can at least stand on it's own while the Ex-S effectively can't. I mean, it kinda can (http://big-metto.net/Models/TheBeastStands.JPG), but not in a way that matters. It also doesn't have the same kind of connectors that modern kits have to make them compatible with Action Bases, even though I actually have kits from the same era that totally do. So, uh. Beats me!

I'll have to get my Ex-S out of storage and put it up on display, alongside the S Gundam.

WisteriaHysteria
01-18-2017, 07:02 AM
Thanks Dracula! @Umbalgo, I've never liked the Iota Gundam or its derivatives (which is weird considering how much I like the ZZ), but that sure looks like it would be a lot of fun to build!

Built another xmas gift: Valvrave Unit-1.

http://i.imgur.com/xUF8RmLl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/xUF8RmL.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/Y7pQl9jl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/Y7pQl9j.jpg)

This was a lot of fun but slightly tedious. It's essentially a HG, but it's bigger/more complicated than your average HG (It's 1/144 scale and size is basically between a typical HG and MG) and basically has an inner frame. A LOT of stickers though, that were a pain in the butt. It would have been nice to have options for water slides for a few of these, but largely I think things turned out pretty good all things considered. The accessories are pretty underwhelming however. Most of them are clear plastic for some reason, so they look really weird and not at all like what's advertised on the box. All in all, pretty good. I'll definitely look into getting Unit 3-6 eventually.