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Loki
08-22-2012, 08:24 AM
I've been wanting to make this thread for a while now, but seeing that Nintendo Power is now a thing of the past what better time to wallow in our nostalgia.

A couple of years ago I had an idea to go through each issue of Nintendo Power and do a little retrospective. I started with Issue 14 (Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers) because it was the first I ever owned. While the first year is interesting in its own right, it didn't hold that nostalgic value for me, and since that was half the point I skipped it. You can read the retrospective here (http://gamesjournal.wordpress.com/2011/01/05/nintendo-power-retrospective-issue-14-julyaugust-1990/). Then I got half way through the next issue (Ninja Gaiden II) but it burt me out, and its mostly maps, so it wasn't as interesting. I posted what art assets I had collected from it in Red Hedgehog's thread here (http://www.talking-time.net/showthread.php?t=13370).

That brings us to Issue 16, where we'll be starting.

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September-October 1991 Maniac Mansion!

NP covers tended to be hit or miss. If you had asked me off-hand about this one I would have said that it was unsuccessful, but looking at it now I have to say it's all sorts of neat! Aside for Bernard there looking like he got hit in the face by a Chuck the Plant it's really cool. It's atmospheric, tells a story, features both Purple and Green, and they built a freakin' model of the mansion! That's the extra mile that Nintendo would often go for their propaganda machine. You would never see this kind of cover on today's gaming magazines (get it? Because there are no magazines anymore! Ahahahaha *BLAM*).

http://i.imgur.com/KQ1UW.jpg

Here's a peak at what's in store for us. It's just the contents, but this is just as iconic of the magazine as anything else, at least up until the stupid N64 years. I love the little Nester seal with him holding up the star. Katsuya Terada was a hell of an artist.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v44/Loki213/Nintendo%20Power/Issue%2014/NP14_02.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nNLog.png

Another iconic bit of early NP is the custom art headers for the monthly sections. Player's Pulse, you may recall, was the letter's section. What's a letter? It's like an email that was written on a tree which was then carried by hand to NP's office at great expense. Barbaric! This issue's Player's Pulse is represented by an epic Tron-esq Game Boy battle. Death to the users!

http://i.imgur.com/5VYHr.png

No no no no, Jimmy. The only Bat Tip you'll ever need is to use save states. Stupid kids. But seriously, he is a hero for playing Batman before the ability to abuse your way to the end was invented.

I wish they had printed a picture of the letter. Judging by NP's answer each letter must have been written in a different shade of 80's neon. It must have been beautiful to behold before you went blind.

http://i.imgur.com/yss2Q.png

The theme of letter art this month is garish stripes. I sent in a couple of envelope arts in my time but they never got printed and no one ever feel in love with me for them years later. A consolation though. I saw a picture a few years back of a hall in NPHQ where they had hung every envelope art they'd ever received. That's something special when you think about it.

http://i.imgur.com/NwyYt.png

God damnit Charles Belmonte it's only 1990 and you already ruined cosplay forever.

http://i.imgur.com/t0EaY.png

And then there's this little bit on nonsense going on to the side. I don't even know what's happening here. Why would you print this?

http://i.imgur.com/7a5YD.png

Aw yeah! NP pushed Final Fantasy really hard. This is the last of their three part coverage. And also the slightest, mainly serving to push their big FF contest. It briefly covers Mirage Tower and the Floating Castle and all that.

http://i.imgur.com/yL0HU.png

Here's the kind of hard-hitting and invaluable advice NP offered. With such helpful hits like this it's no wonder none of us could ever get past the Marsh Cave.

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The previous issues' coverage had all sorts of wonderful and compelling original art. All we get here is this rendering of Tiamat. There's something of Akira Toriyama about it. It almost looks like it could have come from a Dragon Quest game.

http://i.imgur.com/Weayc.jpg

And here's the big push for the contest. Each issue asked a couple of questions and the idea was that since the internet didn't exist yet you would actually have to play the game to find the answers. There were a couple of small prizes like a fanny pack or a suit of armor but if you answered all six right you would be entered to win a vacation to a tropical island where you would be sent on some sort of adventure and Nintendo Power would film it. That's an incredibly ambitious prize. They really wanted Final Fantasy to succeed.

http://i.imgur.com/ldzPA.png

It sounds cheesy but if you told me today that I won a trip to the Caribbean but I would have to be filmed while dressed up like a white mage I'd still be all over that. Frankly, it sounds amazing.

http://i.imgur.com/hvLgu.png

But that's not all! Bonus contest! Get you're name in a game! And you don't even have to beat WarMECH! This one is even better, and it even plays to the strength of the game. Instead of finding out how much Masamune sells for you actually have to track down a super secret super monster. That's the stuff of playground legends there.

http://i.imgur.com/NX5DJ.png

Here NP illustrates how to do it: pose your cat, get your camera ready, and wonder around the airship desert until you run into WarMECH.

http://i.imgur.com/VqICD.png

But Final Fantasy is old and stinky, the kids of 1990 want to know what is hip and new. They demand new types of games that the world has never seen, like some sort of interactive horror/sci-fi flick. Even tuna heads will be hooked by this one!

http://i.imgur.com/ie3mU.png http://i.imgur.com/0zThn.png

What was it like to be a writer for Nintendo Power? You weren't a journalist. Your job was to talk up the games and sneak in hits and try to be as entertaining as possible. It wasn't just advertisement copywriting but something more. I think they did a great job and created something really unique. I mean look at this, it's a little cheesy yeah, but it has its own voice and is genuinely interesting to read. This is what made NP readable when you didn't even own the games or have any other investment. Who knows how many kids learned the word machismo right here?

http://i.imgur.com/iijj2.jpg

The other reason we read was for the kick-ass maps. Look at this spread? The whole mansion laid out with details on every nook and cranny. This kind of stuff really pulled you into the game. If you didn't own a game, reading NP was the next best thing.

http://i.imgur.com/E4KVb.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/T0o5z.jpg

This month's Howard and Nester ostensibly covers Golgo 13, despite being nothing like it. At any rate, Nester doesn't even have an amazing penis.

http://i.imgur.com/JlfsE.jpg

This feature eventually got phased out, but for a while NP was all about tracking the popularity of games. See, in each issue was a card you mailed in to enter the monthly contest, and on the card you had to list what were your current favorite games and such. While this data was probably used for marketing and such, they complied lists for NP for some reason. As a kid we'd get all indignant if our favorite games weren't in the top 3. As adults we can freak out that Bionic Commando ranked lower than Battle for Olympus. What the fuck!?

http://i.imgur.com/vEFkQ.png

Here we see the evolution of a gamer. I'm currently in mustached weird phase. A couple of interesting things: first this is before the term Gamer existed. Instead NP constantly harped about "pros," that rare breed who did more than just play games but ate, slept, and shit them. You see while players wasted their time hopping and bopping with Mario 3, Pros dug deep into Final Fantasy... and also Mario 3. Then there's the dealers? I guess these were the guys who sold stock to Toys 'R Us or something? I don't know who identified as this or where they got their numbers from or why kids were care. But Nintendo Power did, Nintendo Power cared for us.

Next time: Snake Rattle n' Roll and other crap.

madhair60
08-22-2012, 08:26 AM
Great idea! I'll be following along closely.

madhair60
08-22-2012, 08:27 AM
As adults we can freak out that Bionic Commando ranked lower than Battle for Olympus. What the fuck!?

Bionic Commando sucks! Battle for Olympus rules! It stands alongside Kid Icarus as Best NES Game Ostensibly Based Upon Greek Mythology.

Loki
08-22-2012, 08:36 AM
You are booby and you belong in the booby hatch.

Octopus Prime
08-22-2012, 08:40 AM
Bionic Commando sucks! Battle for Olympus rules! It stands alongside Kid Icarus as Best NES Game Ostensibly Based Upon Greek Mythology.

SANE PEOPLE DON'T SAY CRAZY THINGS!

Kirin
08-22-2012, 10:26 AM
Holy shit, nostalgia bomb! Been nice knowing you folks.
*BOOM*
*dead*

Vega
08-22-2012, 11:10 AM
I think the strongest argument against old school Nintendo Power being propaganda is that they described games so thoroughly, especially with screenshot maps and lists of characters and items, that a ten to twenty page article on a game could say almost all there was to know about it. Today, game reviews tell you what the reviewer thinks, but don't give you enough information about any individual game to make your own decisions. Of course, it helped that back then games were much smaller and played in a 2D space. A thorough description of today's sandbox games would take thousands of pages and come across as incoherent, but I think there was a real value to letting the customer form their own opinion from an information dump.

If Nintendo ever allows another movie to be made from their properties, they need to bring Howard Phillips out of the wilderness and have him introduce the movie like a show host.

Ted
08-22-2012, 11:24 AM
This is awesome!

Here we see the evolution of a gamer. I'm currently in mustached weird phase.

I was always mystified by the Player/Pro/Dealer rankings. I assumed the Dealers were the dudes at Target and Kmart, and the Pros were the game counselors at NOA.

I like how TMNT isn't even on the Pros' list. They knew it sucked.

TE-Ryan
08-22-2012, 01:09 PM
I like how TMNT isn't even on the Pros' list. They knew it sucked.

*fingers in ears* LALALALAICAN'THEARYOULALALALA

madhair60
08-22-2012, 02:09 PM
You are booby and you belong in the booby hatch.

I'm not being a dick intentionally here but do people actually enjoy playing Bionic Commando? Do you have to have grown up with it to "get" it?

Sanagi
08-22-2012, 02:11 PM
TMNT was NP's 1990 game of the year, beating out Mega Man 2, Ninja Gaiden, Dragon Warrior, and Tetris. And whose fault was that? Ours. We were stupid.

The Raider Dr. Jones
08-22-2012, 02:21 PM
A small man with pale green hair turned and narrowed his eyes. "Stranger," he hissed through gritted teeth, "you ain't from around these parts, are you?"

Vega
08-22-2012, 02:29 PM
According to somebody on Slashdot, the pink Final Fantasy fanny pack contained a t-shirt and chocolate coins.

Brickroad
08-22-2012, 02:53 PM
I sent in a photo of the WarMECH! That was a thing I did!

We didn't own a camera at the time so when I found one I had to leave the house, run down the street to where my friend lived, and beg his mom to borrow her camera, which of course she refused to do (because I was like nine), and then I got yelled at for leaving the house when I wasn't supposed to (my parents weren't home and I had no way to lock it up when I left) but eventually she must have realized how important this was and also that I would probably just run off and steal a camera if she didn't help me so she walked back and took the photo!

Then I mailed it in and nothing happened. =(

Loki
08-22-2012, 03:00 PM
That's a sad story but maybe your name is in a game and you've just never seen it?

Red Silvers
08-22-2012, 03:04 PM
And that's the story of how Brickroad never got his name into a video game.

Waitaminute...

Ted
08-22-2012, 03:14 PM
I'm not being a dick intentionally here but do people actually enjoy playing Bionic Commando? Do you have to have grown up with it to "get" it?

I do! However, I don't think I'd like it as much if I hadn't developed the muscle memory as a kid, though. Case in point: I played the Gameboy BC for the first time ever last month and felt kinda *meh*.

*fingers in ears* LALALALAICAN'THEARYOULALALALA

I'm sick of watching you die! Give me the controller! MY TURN! I WANNA PLAY BIONIC COMMANDO!

TMNT was NP's 1990 game of the year, beating out Mega Man 2, Ninja Gaiden, Dragon Warrior, and Tetris. And whose fault was that? Ours. We were stupid.

And gluttons for punishment. I never made it past level 3 but you know I was up early on Saturday mornings and reading Archie TMNT comics on my swingset. I think we just wished so hard for NES TMNT to be the arcade game that we duped ourselves.


http://i.imgur.com/ie3mU.png http://i.imgur.com/0zThn.png


"As cunning as a used car salesman with an inventory problem." Very nice.

Red Hedgehog
08-22-2012, 03:15 PM
I'm not being a dick intentionally here but do people actually enjoy playing Bionic Commando? Do you have to have grown up with it to "get" it?

Are you Australian? I only ask because the only people I know who don't like Bionic Commando are Australian.

madhair60
08-22-2012, 03:27 PM
Are you Australian? I only ask because the only people I know who don't like Bionic Commando are Australian.

British. Cambridge-ian, in fact. So my favourite game is academia.

Parish
08-22-2012, 04:16 PM
I'm not being a dick intentionally here but do people actually enjoy playing Bionic Commando? Do you have to have grown up with it to "get" it?

I'm afraid you need to leave now.

botticus
08-22-2012, 05:34 PM
Now I'm desperate to find out where I put all my old issues so I can play along.

That table of contents and the top 30 bring back such memories.

ArugulaZ
08-22-2012, 05:51 PM
You get a better appreciation for the NES version of Bionic Commando if you play the arcade game first. The stiff, unforgiving, quarter sink of an arcade game.

It's kind of amusing the way they completely reimagined the Golgo 13 scenario, changing it into an Inspector Clouseau mystery. Also, Nester's comments about his turban-wearing target ("beehive head, bandage brain") seem... distasteful in this day and age.

I remember the WarMech contest! I wonder who won that one?

Glass Knuckle
08-22-2012, 06:16 PM
I can appreciate Bionic Commando for what it is, but I have no further desire to play it after games like Umihara, Ninja Cop, or Spiderman 2.

DISCLAIMER: I did not own or play Bionic Commando as a child, so it does not have nostalgia working for it in my case.

O..O~
08-22-2012, 11:04 PM
I took me till I was an adult and rediscovered bionic commando to actually enjoy it. As a kid when I rented it it was a total waste of a rental as I couldn't understand the whole "no jumping" thing. Since it waste my precious game rental one week I hated it for a long time.

Brickroad
08-23-2012, 01:15 AM
Why is it so controversial to dislike Bionic Commando? It's an NES platformer where you don't and can't jump. As much as I love the game, and will defend its foibles to my dying breath, it makes total sense to me how a dude might not dig it.

madhair60
08-23-2012, 02:56 AM
I haven't played it since my Change* a few years ago, so I might dig it now. At the time, I thought it was weird how the bionic arm was more of a limitation than a benefit, since I felt as though such a thing should enhance your ability to "platform", not restrict it.

*A time when my gaming tastes took a sudden shift and I found myself enjoying and appreciating genres I'd previously had no time for

Brickroad
08-23-2012, 03:33 AM
Give it another go and start a thread with your thoughts. I know what it's like to survive a serious shift in gaming tastes like that. I'm curious to see how you take to it now. (And because I'm always up for a Bionic Commando thread.)

valhalladeath
08-23-2012, 08:59 PM
To be fair, it took a couple of stages in Bionic Commando for me to really GET it. But then, oh boy, did I love me some Bionic Commando. I rented it so much from our local shop that they eventually just let me keep it.

Loki
08-24-2012, 01:49 AM
http://i.imgur.com/6o7GZ.jpg

We're into the meat of the issue and holy crap look at this. I don't recall this game at all which makes me worry about my brain because who could forget that fish.

The lady team is called HOTFLASH.

http://i.imgur.com/2MQlT.jpg

"Enter My Zone And You'll Never Leave." Lady, with a face like that you can keep your zone to yourself. Also: "Bad Atti-dudes."

http://i.imgur.com/ibSIN.jpg

And this is what Nintendo Power was all about. Tracing along maps learning how to punch dudes while on roller-skates. Why even own a game when Nintendo Power lets you play them vicariously?

http://i.imgur.com/cWoYD.jpg

Booo! Get that shit out of here, Nintendo Power! Who even wants to play a sports game anyways and besides why even care abouts four players when we've got Tecmo Bowl right here?

http://i.imgur.com/P1rmb.jpg

I include because NP had to come up with something for the article and so mocked up this play by play which meant some lucky person got to draw a HILLARIOUS sports commentator yacking it up all over an anthropomorphized microphone. Only in Nintendo Power!

http://i.imgur.com/lmqYc.jpg

Classified Information i.e. codes for your grimy cheating paws. Presented in classy manila envelope for that extra secret agent feel. Anything interesting this month?

http://i.imgur.com/uSJDs.jpg

This reads less like a bug than something put in intentionally. Anyone know anything more about this? Pretty neat either way!

http://i.imgur.com/bW6yc.jpg

Vindication! People always say that Ketchup just makes the Blob run to where you are (Ketchup = catch-up get it) but he'll do that for any bean. I even think our fearless leader made this blunder and boy did it stick in my craw like some kind of... gross flavored... jelly candy snack.

But no! You've got to trick the Blob into eating the ketchup bean (because who would even want to eat such a thing? The blob ain't no Harry Potter) for a functionally useless wall. I'm surprised to see this here. I would think a tip preserved in the hallowed halls of Nintendo Power wouldn't be consistently incorrect for twenty years.

http://i.imgur.com/DIm6W.jpg

That's not to say that NP was infallible. No reward my butt. Beating the slider game totally nets you enough gold to maybe think about buying a Silver Sword one day. Totally worth it.

http://i.imgur.com/lyFfy.jpg

Neat! But what do they do when two kids pick the same number, write back and tell him to choose another?

http://i.imgur.com/9xBQd.jpg

I always skipped over the high score section because I couldn't give a damn but maybe decades later there's something worthwhile in here?

http://i.imgur.com/cRC7c.jpg

Aw, poor kid. I bet Astyanax was his only friend.

http://i.imgur.com/INCxv.jpg

All these people are madhair60. That is to say, they are crazy and should not be allowed to walk the streets freely.

http://i.imgur.com/qibI9.jpg

Hey remember when Rare made crappy games that no one wanted to play?

http://i.imgur.com/Jdgph.jpg

I wish Nintendo Power was still around. I would love to get paid to draw clocks and snakehead one-ups. I can't help but wonder if these artists hated their job and saw it as soulless demeaning work. Or if they were under horrible time constraints. "God damnit the issue is late to the printers and we need that extra life art for Snake Rattle right fucking now!"

http://i.imgur.com/Av51x.jpg

Also covered is Kickle Cubicle which is an alright game I wouldn't kick out of bed. But snicker! "Fruit Land." Also: Piro The Clown Prince of Fruit. Did they pull this crap from the games or did just make up whatever in order to fill space? Did they hate kids because they had to write this junk? I don't have a very positive image of NP's office life.

http://i.imgur.com/mlZDm.jpg

Counselors' Corner was like Classified Information but it was for stupid questions that stupid kids wrote into NP to ask, like how to dodge spotlights in Snake's Revenge! (Answer: dodge the spotlights)

http://i.imgur.com/hIU70.jpg

As people mentioned in the other thread, Shadowgate was a repeat offender. I like how the answer to this question is just vague enough to be as little help as possible.

http://i.imgur.com/Qas16.jpg

The best part of Counselors' Corner are the counselor profiles. The High Scores are always good for a laugh. Finishing Kid Kool isn't a score but at least Mike isn't making shit up like Hans Lo there. Most of the time they aren't even scores. Props to Jeff Waite for actually following the spirit of the profile and also for his thick, robust mustache.

http://i.imgur.com/bItgP.jpg

Word is Mission: Impossible is a crap game for crap kids, but it gets the coveted back-of-the-poster position because it's based on a property I guess? Did kids even care about M:I in 1990? I know I couldn't give a fuck. I do dig Tom Cruise rocking that boomerang though.

http://i.imgur.com/MgVAN.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tIPEj.jpg

"Fido T. Flamethrower?" "Wille the Water Demon?!?" All is redeemed with Jean Claude Killer.

Each issue came with a fold out poster featuring game coverage on one side and an upcoming game on the reverse. If you were terrible you cut them out and hung them all over your bedroom or basement (hint: we were all terrible). This month's poster is quite a treat so I reassembled it for your pleasure.

http://i.imgur.com/2mOPT.jpg

This is fine art right here. Anyone who disagrees is a space loony!

http://i.imgur.com/6Er7s.jpg

LBD_Nytetrayn
08-24-2012, 04:22 AM
Good times, good times... can't wait to see more!

Kirin
08-24-2012, 10:44 AM
http://i.imgur.com/uSJDs.jpg

This reads less like a bug than something put in intentionally. Anyone know anything more about this? Pretty neat either way!

First I'd heard of it, but it sounds exactly like a bug to me. Completing a Tetris sets up an animation timer that makes the screen flash several times and then gives you the score when it's done. "Time" for this purpose passes only when the main game is running, not menus, but the demo counts since it's running the game logic. The timer started during the demo never got reset and finishes up when you actually start playing. Pure speculation, but it makes a lot of sense from a programming perspective.

ArugulaZ
08-24-2012, 11:01 AM
http://i.imgur.com/2MQlT.jpg

"Enter My Zone And You'll Never Leave." Lady, with a face like that you can keep your zone to yourself. Also: "Bad Atti-dudes."


Look out! Judge Judy's learned to skate and she's coming your way!

I remember the series upon which this game was based. It was a roller derby with the athletes split into six eccentrically named teams, and a lot of pre-match trash talk similar to the "shots" in professional wrestling. (I think that's the terminology. Maybe Shakewell can set me straight on this one.)

I also remember the Mission: Impossible (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission:_Impossible_(1988_TV_series)) series, which aired on ABC in the late 1980s. It was a sequel to the original show from the 1960s, with brief appearances by Peter Graves and a starring role for the son of Greg Morris, who... uh, played the son of the black hacker in the first series. (You're probably more familiar with Phil Morris as the Johnnie Cochran-ish lawyer on Seinfeld, or Vandal Savage from the Justice League cartoon.)

The new Mission: Impossible tried to reinvent the franchise, in the same way Star Trek: The Next Generation brought credibility to the Star Trek series. It was sleeker and more cutting edge than the first show... I remember one of the agents trying to break into a Satanist cult by wearing LED-enhanced contact lenses that would glow an ominous red when activated. However, the writer's strike of the late 1980s hobbled the series, and the limited special effects of the time kept the show from living up to its full potential. I remember a villain on the show being thrown off a cliff, or a skyscraper, or something, and watching him tumble to his doom with the dorky green screen effects that had become Paramount's trademark prior to the transition to CGI.

It wasn't an entirely successful remake, but one episode starred John DeLancie as an assassin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7g9T1qBqY0)! So that's, uh, something.

Ted
08-24-2012, 11:01 AM
http://i.imgur.com/6o7GZ.jpg

We're into the meat of the issue and holy crap look at this. I don't recall this game at all which makes me worry about my brain because who could forget that fish.

"The fastest action on eight tiny wheels" has always stuck with me for some reason.


The lady team is called HOTFLASH.

Yeah, that totally flew over my head as a kid.


http://i.imgur.com/P1rmb.jpg

I include because NP had to come up with something for the article and so mocked up this play by play which meant some lucky person got to draw a HILLARIOUS sports commentator yacking it up all over an anthropomorphized microphone. Only in Nintendo Power!

I can't look at that without Ogenki Clinic coming to mind.

Hey remember when Rare made crappy games that no one wanted to play?

But what other game features tongue extensions?

http://i.imgur.com/Qas16.jpg

The best part of Counselors' Corner are the counselor profiles. The High Scores are always good for a laugh. Finishing Kid Kool isn't a score but at least Mike isn't making shit up like Hans Lo there. Most of the time they aren't even scores. Props to Jeff Waite for actually following the spirit of the profile and also for his thick, robust mustache.

HansoLo

And Mike's hobby is "Medical Research"? :smirk:



Look out! Judge Judy's learned to skate and she's coming your way!

Estelle Getty: from Golden Girl to cranky touring manager.

ArugulaZ
09-06-2012, 10:25 AM
So... uh, are we still doing this?

Mara
09-07-2012, 03:35 PM
I wish they had printed a picture of the letter. Judging by NP's answer each letter must have been written in a different shade of 80's neon. It must have been beautiful to behold before you went blind.

They did. It's the top left letter in the "Pics of Mail" directly below this comment. Looks like every line (with the exception of the word "Batman") was written in a different color.

woofbro
09-08-2012, 01:02 AM
So... uh, are we still doing this?

I can only hope, I honestly just re-read this for a cheer up.

Loki
09-08-2012, 05:02 AM
my life has priorites and while I like to do fun stuff work and family are priorites that's why they're called work and family. That said let's look at some previews! Remember when magazines used to be pages upon pages of previews? Boy I'm sure glad that changed!

http://i.imgur.com/6bR9u.jpg

Oh man look at all those hip games for Nintendo's coolest hot new console the gameboys! These are all such great classics, fondly remembered decades later. Oh wait no. Except for Turtles did anyone ever in the world own even one copy of any of these?

http://i.imgur.com/7yPx8.jpg

Fall of the Foot Clan was sorta a big deal. Everything that was a Ninja Turtle was in those days. The game was short and easy, the sprites were too big, and all around it was kinda shody. But it was still beter than The Castlevania The Adventure!

http://i.imgur.com/gBPYO.jpg

Pictured: destilled cool and rude.

http://i.imgur.com/1wozS.jpg

I don't recall this game at all but its from Atlus so its got to be good right? And look at that sweet tank artwork! I wonder what anime this originaly was.

Also, experience points? Looks like we've got some :smirk::D:froth:RPG Elements!!!:froth::D:smirk:

http://i.imgur.com/Nv8ea.jpg

Ahhh minimalist puzzle games, the bread and butter of the early Game Boy. This one actually sounds kinda cool. I wouldn't mind paying a dollar for it on iPhone or something. Let's see what sorta helpful hints Nintendo Power provides.

http://i.imgur.com/8WFEv.jpg

Uhhh... I'll be sure to keep this page close while playing. Thanks Nintendo!

http://i.imgur.com/qGA7Y.jpg

Did you know there was a Game Boy port of Skate or Die called Bad 'N Rad because of course there was. Skate or Die was kinda a complex game. It had a trackball and isometric graphics and everything. So Konami did the only sensable thing: turn that fucker into a crappy side-scroller!

Note: Elrad the Evil One is on the rampage and you've got to stop him from taking over by demonstrating your skateboarding expertise.

http://i.imgur.com/Cccoe.jpg

Catrap is actually a pretty good game from what I hear. And make your own levels? Shit's downright progressive. All of that pales in comparision to that 80's anime. Yes.... yes! That stuff is like sweet necter to me.

http://i.imgur.com/3VBTw.jpg

Pictured: racism...?

http://i.imgur.com/Ykkaf.jpg

The 90's, when any old thing could get a video game.

Boy I'm sure glad that changed!

http://i.imgur.com/OX4na.jpg

"The second installment of the popular Boy And His Blob series..." don't lie, Nintendo Power. Your readers may be kids but they can still smell your desperation. Also, that Game Boy Duck Tales game that people are just getting around to discovering this year. And also Nobunaga's Ambition!? I believe it when they say most ambitious port yet. Has anyone played this? Did it survive the transition intact at all?

http://i.imgur.com/rcvaZ.jpg

The claim that Tetris just might be a perfect one is not spurious. That this is because of "unbeatability" most definently is.

And Golf at number two?!?! The Pro's at Nintendo Power secretly hated little kids there is no other explination. I mean fuck, Gargoyle's Quest is right there.

http://i.imgur.com/YDQos.jpg

This might break the window but I don't care, this is a super nice spread for a super nice game. It might just be a preview but this is NP at its best, getting nice and cruncy with the details, witty copy, a little history and background info, and that great layout of level one along the bottom. All that's missing is some original artwork in a wildly different art style.

http://i.imgur.com/DD22m.jpg

Ahhhh there's the stuff. DQII was never as badass as right here. I don't even care that dude's not rocking any goggles. They even got the crest of Loto Erdrick worked in there. And that border too! Eufff!

http://i.imgur.com/1K8JP.jpg

Here we see Nintendo Power trying to talk up all the new features like "multiple characters" and "more than one enemies" despite Final Fantasy already doing all that stuff and it aint even no thing. Why are you trying to push Dragon Warrior, Nintendo Power? It's like Enix isn't even trying.

http://i.imgur.com/eY9Ll.jpg

NP also was pushing Solar Jetman with all their might. It's kinda a weird game for them to promote so hard. Did Rare have a special deal with them? Was there elicit under the table Jetman money? Nintendo did publish the game in Europe, which might be a key to the mystery.

The graphic here is pretty blegh, but I wanted to include the copy. It's snappy and really does a great job of creating excitement for a game that Solar Jetman is totally not.

http://i.imgur.com/hiFvV.jpg

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttt!!!!!!!!! !!!!! And new levels too?!? But it never snows in New York! The Foot must be up to something really devious (I actually believed this as a kid).

http://i.imgur.com/bhaAe.jpg

The programmers at Konami surely did! It looks JUST LIKE the popular arcade game of the popular Ninja show. I can't wait to show this issue to all my chums on the school yard and we will all giggle until its time for math.

Next time: http://i.imgur.com/bzQ6H.jpg

mopinks
09-08-2012, 05:46 AM
Oh man look at all those hip games for Nintendo's coolest hot new console the gameboys! These are all such great classics, fondly remembered decades later. Oh wait no. Except for Turtles did anyone ever in the world own even one copy of any of these?

SIR, I bought Balloon Kid with my very own money and cherished the heck out of it

also my grandma had a copy of Quarth so I played that a lot too. Quarth is very great!

Prinnydood
09-08-2012, 08:14 AM
Catrap is on the 3DS Virtual Console, so you can give it a shot at any time.

ArugulaZ
09-08-2012, 08:15 AM
A friend of mine had Dead Heat Scramble... it was a crummy overhead view racing game with the limited depth expected from early GameBoy titles. You drove through a half pipe (with your car tilting slightly at the edges) and if you didn't finish a course in time, you'd run out of gas and lose the game. Oh Electrobrain, where would video games be without you? (Exactly the same place they are now, I suspect.)

I never understood the appeal of Quarth. It seemed remarkably simplistic for a puzzle game, with next to no strategy involved. Shapes would drop, you'd fill them with tiny blocks, and that was the end of it. It's a totally different kind of puzzle game, but I'd recommend Solomon's Club instead. It's a bite-sized sequel to the overlooked NES title Solomon's Key, and while it might not be as long or as challenging, at least it's possible to finish.

And hey, I liked TMNT II: The Arcade Game! I was damned near chomping at the bit for it after the incredibly disappointing first game. Two player action AND exclusive stages not found in the arcade game? How can you go wrong?

(I was a little let down by Hyperstone Heist on the Genesis, which was a dumbed down version of Turtles in Time with scraps of the original arcade game sprinkled in. They should have just ported the first Turtles arcade title, added the NES version's extra stages with arcade-quality graphics, and called it a day.)

Daikaiju
09-08-2012, 01:46 PM
Fall Of The Foot Clan was manna from Heaven after TMNT on the NES. I loved the stage transitions.

LBD_Nytetrayn
09-09-2012, 05:18 AM
Was Balloon Kid actually covered? I saw it on that front page, but not in the scans.

And I dug both TMNT games there.

Loki
09-09-2012, 05:37 AM
Yeah but there wasn't much interesting. "Use balloons to fly, kid!" I'll crop and resize if you guys want but its pretty bland.

Balrog
09-09-2012, 11:18 AM
Balloon Kid is cool. It's the perfect kill 15 minutes kind of game.

Sanagi
09-09-2012, 01:39 PM
Balloon Kid is cool. It's the perfect kill 15 minutes kind of game.
I didn't fully appreciate Balloon Fight and its few, forgotten offspring until I played the version in Wario Ware: Smooth Moves and thought "This is really fun, but it'd be better without the 3D graphics and the arm-flapping."

LBD_Nytetrayn
09-09-2012, 01:55 PM
I'd like to see it, as I'm a Balloon Fight nut and didn't realize it was a sequel until years and years later.

I'm torn as far as downloading it, though. I mean, there's a full-color version I'd rather have, but it was only released in Japan, and for whatever reason, Nintendo seems to think that means we wouldn't want it in color.

Sort of like Donkey Kong on Super Game Boy...

Loki
09-10-2012, 02:58 AM
Just for you, Nyt, because you are a cool dude who deserves his balloon kids.

http://i.imgur.com/n9td3.jpg

I hope it was everything you dreamed it would be.

Today we're going to polish off the issue with all the weird back of the magazine features, starting with reviews new releases!

http://i.imgur.com/DB8Xm.jpg

Get a load of this picture. It's all non-offensive with its soft light and pastel colors but it’s basically saying that while you're shunted off to s'hool Mom gathers up the cat and they just play Nintendo all day long. Just as you've always suspected.

That, or she's about to power-off the system undoing the work getting all the way to Dracula. Either way it is THE WORST CRIME.

http://i.imgur.com/Dsq1Z.jpg

I still don't understand NP's organization during these years. Like, these are sorta reviews, but Nintendo Power was never critical so they're not, but they've got the little Power Play Meters rating the games, but the previews had those too so what's the difference? I don't get it. Gauntlet II here gains slightly above average marks but what this means beyond "Questor can attack quickly" is anyone's guess. Also, no Wizard Needs Food Badly? For shame, Nintendo Power.

http://i.imgur.com/cQTkx.jpg

Dick Tracy you piece of shit you do not deserve even the paltry score you got. I rented this game five or six times as a lad and never got anywhere or did anything. If Nintendo Power cared even the slightest for the wellbeing of kids they would have awarded it straight zeros and told us youth that life was too precious to waste even a second of it on this abortion.

Instead we got "Don't wander aimlessly, or you're liable to get shot up by snipers." Hahahahahahahaha FUCK YOU.

http://i.imgur.com/6fRs5.jpg

Isn't this supposed to be an underrated gem? Like, a Wizardry clone for people who don't hate themselves? I remember some guy I worked with at Dave & Buster's brought his laptop in to play it during his shift. Pretty ballsy risk for a NES game. At any rate, Nintendo Power liked it. And "a four player option using the NES Satellite." What? What is this? It's not mentioned anywhere else, but dang!? I donno. Sounds cool.

http://i.imgur.com/QAPve.jpg

Here it is guys the one you've been waiting for: the Zapper game for babies no one remembers! "Be patient in the Balloon Saloon." I try, NP, but I just get so excited that I can't sit still and I end up making a big scene and I get kicked out before I even get to taste my sarsaparilla. :(

http://i.imgur.com/w52gn.jpg

According to Nintendo Power "Frankenstein" is the most average game ever, but just look at this. You're hunting down the giant undead corpse of Victor Frankenstein, all hopped up on crystal balls and stabbing your sword into brainwashed zombies and His and Her Devils. That sounds like the fucking best game ever to me. Move over Castlevania there's a new Castlevania clone on the block and his name is Frankenvaniastine!

http://i.imgur.com/q6G08.jpg

Then we've got more reviews but like smaller? And also they're movies? As a kid this section really confused me. A video game is not a movie! Even a stupid baby who's mind has been made stupid by video games knows that!

http://i.imgur.com/P6nd0.jpg

And they've got these little film reels on all the reviews and I don't even know. Here we see a rare example of criticism. "The relatively simple game play makes this a game that players of all skill levels can play." Oh, BURN. For Nintendo Power that's like giving the game a 3.5/10. Cold man, stone cold.

http://i.imgur.com/RqB6x.jpg

Mad Max: The Game should have been a hit but Nintendo Power said "the game is not as much an adventure through the devastated world as it is a test of driving combat skills in a closed area" and that was the nail in the coffin. No kid would give it the time of day after that, and that's why we play Zelda to this day.

http://i.imgur.com/gO0Y0.jpg

I ain't even seen this game before but it's called Starship Hector and that's a pretty sweet drawing of a spaceship so I'm awarding it Game of the Month.

http://i.imgur.com/B0ddW.jpg

Next up is News, as represented by the one time that guy tried to waterski while playing a Game Boy and it’s also connected to the boat so I guess they were playing two player Tetris which strikes me as a foolish idea and I guess that's why all those people ended up dead.

http://i.imgur.com/OTEbY.jpg

This is a surprise! Super Nintendo all early. I mean we've got years of NES left but here it is with its own technical data box and everything. And check out Nintendo Power laying down the smackdown. "Look to future issues of Nintendo Power to get hard facts and not wimpy rumors..." Hahahaha oh man did they just say that?! Nintendo Power why you 'ackin so cray-cray?

So what else is news?

http://i.imgur.com/y6bGw.jpg

Wesley Crusher is news that's what. It makes sense actually, he's going to be a huge deal on Big Bang Theory someday.

http://i.imgur.com/ksPLD.jpg

:cool:

http://i.imgur.com/NEtYM.jpg

Let's just see what Wikipedia has to say about that.

Politics

A column that he wrote for Salon.com in 2005, The Real War on Christmas, attacked commentators like Bill O'Reilly and detailed his arguments with his conservative parents over current political matters.[28] Wheaton's parents were very offended by the article, and he posted a lengthy apology on his site and an interview in which his parents clarified their political views.[30]

Aw, sad.

But Wheaton's a good guy and he's fighting the good fight. Frankly, I'm in no position to speak. I'd play a horrible kid dork on TV for years if it meant I got to be in Nintendo Power too.

Loki
09-10-2012, 02:59 AM
http://i.imgur.com/tCO9s.jpg

I wouldn't be paying outrageous dental bills now if you had just bought me the SMB3 soft bristle electric toothbrush with an extra attachable brush, mom.

http://i.imgur.com/xONfF.jpg

The Hard Shell! That was my Game Boy case! I feel like I'm a part of history now. I still have it too, it is tucked in the back of my game cabinet and filled with miscellaneous cables and torn GB instruction manuals. But despite all these years it is as hard as ever. That Seal of Quality was well deserved. Bravo to you Hard Shell, I didn't even know that was your name.

http://i.imgur.com/WOUqY.jpg

Look what they did to the Koopa Kids. I like the sentiment in the upper right there. "Maybe if you turned off your goddamn Nintendo once in a while you would get to watch some Nintendo!"

http://i.imgur.com/5ZnQe.jpg

Pak Watch! More previews! Though these are more like early builds and rumors. Still confused the heck out of me as a kid though. I couldn't figure out why they had all these separate sections and didn't just lump everything together.

Check out Howard palin it up with Dudley Moore there. Also, $300 Bucks?!?! I mean, I get that Dudley Moore's got to eat and all but you could buy a real crappy piano for that price.

http://i.imgur.com/A5775.jpg

The notorious Robin Hood. It’s actually looking pretty close to the finished product there. Why did it end up getting delayed so much again?

http://i.imgur.com/siYOF.jpg

Pak Watch also had these gossip sections populated by random creatures and stuff. They're really ugly and generic and seemed really out of place in the magazine.

Thanks for telling me about Mega Man 3, Fortune Teller Mermaid, but I think your crystal ball broke. There's no 20 Super Robots in the game, unless you count the Doc Robots and Wily bosses and if you did that would be the Sea Madness talking not the sane workings of a rational mind.

http://i.imgur.com/JboLG.jpg

Metal Storm is a downright classic but why did we have to learn about it from the disembodied hand of a TV ghost? Fuck.

http://i.imgur.com/OhiLb.jpg

Hahahaha look at them try to justify that shit. "Deliberate play control" my slightly delayed ass.

Stumpy's Bandit Kings game sounds pretty cool! Did that ever come to fruition? I've never heard of it, but I was never into those strategy games as a kid. Or did it end up being a Japanese only thing? Shame.

http://i.imgur.com/T6Hdt.jpg

And not one of them worth the effort used to write this paragraph.

http://i.imgur.com/KoKD4.jpg

This month's contest is Ultima for some reason. Kinda pales in comparison to all the Final Fantasy stuff. Some lucky kid won Heroes of the Lance for god's sake. I'd have mailed it back and requested the T-Shirt instead.

http://i.imgur.com/l558O.jpg

Oh man they actually printed the picture. Do you think Richard Garriott looks back on it with regret? Or is it more likely it hangs over his fireplace where he toasts to it with a glass of wine ever day?

That's it for this issue. What's up next?

http://i.imgur.com/0KhqF.jpg

More Final Fantasy of course.

Prinnydood
09-10-2012, 05:52 AM
Why on earth would anyone try and push the NES Dragon's Lair of all things? I mean, come on.

Octopus Prime
09-10-2012, 06:59 AM
Why on earth would anyone try and push the NES Dragon's Lair of all things? I mean, come on.

As noted earlier, Nintendo Powers offices are staffed by warlocks who use their magic powers to make even the sickest game sound amazing.

In their folly, they assumed that this would work on NES Dragons Lair, only t see hat it was beyond their power

Prinnydood
09-10-2012, 07:36 AM
In retrospect, they must have known because they put scare quotes around the word deliberate. They knew they couldn't dress up that turd and were trying to warn us.

Kirin
09-10-2012, 09:44 AM
Late to the weekend party, but: Hellz yes, Little Nemo. Nice.

Also that early Super Famicon preview is pretty interesting. All red buttons!

And Wil Wheaton, man... I wonder how many people have sent him that photo over the years as they came across it browsing old NP.

mopinks
09-10-2012, 11:10 AM
http://i.imgur.com/OTEbY.jpg

boy did I ever spend a lot of time staring obsessively at those four little screenshots.

boy!

mr_bungle700
09-10-2012, 03:03 PM
The Hard Shell! That was my Game Boy case!

Me too!

Bravo to you Hard Shell, I didn't even know that was your name.

Me neither!

Oh man they actually printed the picture. Do you think Richard Garriott looks back on it with regret? Or is it more likely it hangs over his fireplace where he toasts to it with a glass of wine ever day?

That second one.

ajr82
09-10-2012, 09:35 PM
Snoopy's Magic Show was actually a pretty fun action-puzzle game.

LBD_Nytetrayn
09-10-2012, 11:28 PM
Thanks for posting the Balloon Kid bit! Funny, they never once mention that it's a sequel to Balloon Fight...

They didn't mention the return of the Duck Hunt dog in Barker Bill, either.

boy did I ever spend a lot of time staring obsessively at those four little screenshots.

boy!

Same. Speaking of which, I wonder if any high-quality versions of those SMW beta pics exist anywhere, like the one where Raccoon Mario is running up a wall. Every time these pics come up, they tend to be rather blurry and often small...

Sanagi
09-11-2012, 02:05 AM
I forgot how much I hated the cartoon versions of the Koopalings. How did I manage to watch that show for so long?

Octopus Prime
09-11-2012, 02:46 AM
I forgot how much I hated the cartoon versions of the Koopalings. How did I manage to watch that show for so long?

Because six-year-olds don't know any better.

Sanagi
09-11-2012, 03:03 AM
Because six-year-olds don't know any better.
No, even when I was a kid I knew they were getting it all wrong and that bothered me.

Octopus Prime
09-11-2012, 07:29 AM
Well, some know better but do nothing to stop themselves.

It seems that the true koopa-kid... Is MAN

Vega
09-11-2012, 09:26 AM
I never understood the appeal of Quarth. It seemed remarkably simplistic for a puzzle game, with next to no strategy involved. Shapes would drop, you'd fill them with tiny blocks, and that was the end of it.
It was definitely for the newspaper crossword puzzle crowd. It entertained me for a few hours. If only they had gotten a picture of George Bush Sr. playing it they could have claimed it was the next Tetris. (Google doesn't bring up the image of Bush Sr. playing Game Boy. Which NP issue had it?)

And hey, I liked TMNT II: The Arcade Game! I was damned near chomping at the bit for it after the incredibly disappointing first game. Two player action AND exclusive stages not found in the arcade game? How can you go wrong?
TMNT2 was a decent NES port but the arcade version was so widely available that it was hard not to feel let down. I liked TMNT3 a lot more mainly because there was no arcade version to compare it to.

Thanks for telling me about Mega Man 3, Fortune Teller Mermaid, but I think your crystal ball broke. There's no 20 Super Robots in the game, unless you count the Doc Robots and Wily bosses and if you did that would be the Sea Madness talking not the sane workings of a rational mind.
True, but back then game sizes were growing so rapidly that this sort of rumor was believable.

All this takes me back to the time when kids on the bus would rumor that "There's Super Mario 100 in China" and that some kid a few years older than us on the other side of town owned every game and would lend or rent them to people. Ah, the stories kids tell!

LBD_Nytetrayn
09-12-2012, 01:37 AM
I had fun with TMNTII, but yeah, I was a little let down by it as well. Still, better than the nothing else we got for 20 more years!

...not counting the audibly-butchered version in that one GameCube/PS2/Xbox game.

Speaking of which, I still need to get the first and third ones based on the 2K series...

As for the Koopalings, the differences on the show did bug me a bit, but I grew to enjoy them for what they were anyway. After all, it's not as though they were well-defined in SMB3 or anything, and The Adventures of SMB3 was still the truest Mario cartoon to the games.

Vega
09-12-2012, 07:16 AM
The Adventures of SMB3 was still the truest Mario cartoon to the games.
What is the best Nintendo cartoon? On one hand, the variety show structure and styling of the SMB Super Show and Captain N worked really well. On the other hand, ASMB3 had Kuribo-Raccoon-Firey Bowser and a cameo by George Bush from "the real world."

Kirin
09-12-2012, 08:13 AM
The Wil Wheaton in Nintendo Power pic is now on 1up's official tumblr (because I posted it on mine and Jeremy reblogged it). As it should be.

ArugulaZ
09-12-2012, 08:24 AM
Which show had the Villi Manilla cameo again?

No, seriously. I greatly preferred the Super Mario Bros. Super Show (without the surfer dudes, thanks) to the others. Captain N had some non-cringeworthy moments, but Super Mario 3 and especially Super Mario World were pure pain from start to finish.

Loki
09-12-2012, 11:17 AM
Back in 1990 Nintendo Power didn't understand how magazines worked, so instead of releasing one every month all respectable like in the Cosmo fashion they instead alternated issues with strategy guides. This perhaps was not the best direction for a magazine but it coined the term and sparked an idea in the mind of young Brady Guide.

Some of the games they chose to cover were dubious. Ninja Gaiden is cool and all but did those maps ever really help anyone? And an entire guide devoted to the 4 player adapter? On the other hand: Mario! And this one, a game worthy of pages and pages of in-depth coverage, too bad Nintendo Power would get it all wrong.

http://i.imgur.com/oa2Sg.jpg

Yup, more Final Fantasy. Fucking Final Fantasy for four months straight. Nintendo Power loved their Final Fantasy and so do I. This guide was like the holy grail in Elementary School. Only one kid actually has a subscription to NP at this point and this thing... man. It was like full of wonderous monsters and far away lands and since no-one could get past the Marsh Cave it was all mysterious and big as the world.

It was seriously a big fucking deal. I convinced him to let me borrow it at one point and spent the whole day reading from cover to cover, just relishing in adventure and fantasy and jesus video games. Video games is what I'm trying to say here.

http://i.imgur.com/VaGTm.jpg?1

At first glance the guide seems nicely organized, breaking down regions into chapters. This is an farce. As you will see, in order to give the guide depth and content they fucked the order all over the place.

http://i.imgur.com/1MuwF.jpg

Also missing is the cool art from the regular issue articles and instead is replaced with this generic and kinda off putting stuff. I'd complain about the Fighter's lack of a shirt until I remember that in the game he doesn't start with that fur skirt either.

What would you say is the most significant choice in a Final Fantasy run and definitive trait of the game? Without resorting to nit-picking and detail quibbling (ha-ha! On Talking Time? Never!) the obvious answer is the building a party from those classic Final Fantasy classes. Guess what the guide doesn't address at all. Yup, no breakdown of the classes or a summery of what they can do or how different parties will affect the game. Maybe they assumed you would get that from the manual, but what a thing to omit. Craziness I tell you.

http://i.imgur.com/1xG6s.jpg

One thing the game does do right are these little story summaries. As a kid they really built up the epic nature of what is really just a jumble of bugs.

http://i.imgur.com/IcO9K.jpg

Aside from the dubious content and sub-par art, the guide is pretty classy. Look at that little ship in the corner and the location's map icon. Good, appealing design.

http://i.imgur.com/xTl8w.jpg

What isn't so appealing is how they structured the content. This is the very first piece of information in the guide: a treasure room you won't be able to access for hours (or as it was for us kids, ever). That equipment sure did look sweet when you were getting slaughtered by GHOULs, but as they say the silver knife is always sharper on the other side of the elf-key locked magic door.

http://i.imgur.com/AO8zn.jpg

Now there is some good old fashioned NP art. Ahhh it soothes my troubled soul. Still, way to be a tease instead of laying out the information in a linear fashion.

http://i.imgur.com/uADeT.jpg

The town sections don't provide much information, just a list of equipment on sale. Not even anything about your dirty face! The spell lists are a little more interesting. The NP writers had to justify the crazy truncated magic names and came up with some wacky explanations. Did you know RUSE is like a hall of fun-house mirrors (I actually really like this interpretation) and LOCK is surprisingly logical.

http://i.imgur.com/uyEm9.jpg

I really like these item drawings. I think they were in the instruction book/adventure book as well? Still rather than just colored potions in a bottles, HEALs and PUREs were contained by fine sculpted urns. While buying those heaps of HEALs one at a time I imagined the Light Warriors stuffing these delicate jugs into their packs. And quaffing one in battle? High Culture.

http://i.imgur.com/R6wBt.jpg

Just the first of much terrible advice. And I took it hook line sinker. I would fight those IMPs up to Level 3 every time. Garland was a BIG DEAL and going in under prepare wasn't about to happen.

http://i.imgur.com/CtbX0.jpg

This is why we were all bad at video games for so many years. This is why to this day I have never finished Final Fantasy VI.

http://i.imgur.com/8m2KU.jpg

And then it's like oh hey you can do it at Level 2 I guess. Also, have the White Mage use a potion?! Insanity. If you gaze into the Nintendo Power Final Fantasy Strategy Guide, the Nintendo Power Final Fantasy Strategy Guide gazes also into you.

http://i.imgur.com/AQ1PL.jpg

That is a fine looking lute go to page 75 of this topic to find out more!

http://i.imgur.com/2djZG.jpg

Final Fantasy Truly Beings When You Cross North Bridge

Of course, any help with the long trek on the other side of that bridge is missing. Instead we jump straight to Matoya's Cave.

http://i.imgur.com/jwNCF.jpg

Yup, every time there is a potion it will be cross referenced back to that initial picture. Just in case you forgot what they do or what they look like and also forgot where in this tome that information was found. Also, "talk to her in the normal manner."

http://i.imgur.com/I16ZC.jpg

As famous and obvious as this is I'm kinda surprised they didn't mention that it's the words backwards. Could this be a rare case of giving kids credit?

http://i.imgur.com/kYhnd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/szbPs.jpg

Over in Provoka we're introduced to the Level 2 spells. I love their interpretation to SLOW. It's not that you're slowing the monster's movements, it's that you're dumbing them down so they don't know how to swing as hard or something. Wonderful!

Also what did LAMP ever do? For the life of me I can't recall.

http://i.imgur.com/a3Zao.jpg

I get a kick out of this picture. Like, it's one thing to buy a cabin, it's another to have a visual representation. All of a sudden questions like "How?" and "What?" start coming to mind.

http://i.imgur.com/QLTRj.jpg

Amazingly, NP doesn't advise you grind to Level 10 or 20 before fighting the pirates. The restraint on display, it overwhelms me.

http://i.imgur.com/bKLkn.jpg

It's also kinda amazing that they weren't like "if you want to know more about the ship turn to page 16 (we're on page 16)."

http://i.imgur.com/CoJz0.jpg

At the end of each chapter there's a breakdown of all the steps covered, unsolved mysteries (elf key! crystal! TNT!) and some honest to god actual advice and strategies.

Of course, the advice here is to use weapons and spells you wont see until much later, still it's nice to see some actual strategy in this strategy guide. I also like how they don't explain what using the Mage Staff does or why that would be a good idea. I think as a kid I laughed at these tips because I had learned the hard way you need to equip weapons, not use them in battle. And thus is was literally decades later that I learned about item spells and how much they broke the game.

Next time: http://i.imgur.com/vhglN.jpg

Sanagi
09-12-2012, 03:42 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VaGTm.jpg?1
I had this map on my wall for like fifteen years before I noticed that the labels for chapters two and three are switched.

Guess what the guide doesn't address at all. Yup, no breakdown of the classes or a summery of what they can do or how different parties will affect the game. Maybe they assumed you would get that from the manual, but what a thing to omit. Craziness I tell you.
Yeah, and all they needed to say was "Having trouble? Start over with more Fighters!" and it would have been the most useful information in the entire guide.

ArugulaZ
09-12-2012, 03:55 PM
I think I gave Parish my old copy of that guide. But I got his Street Fighter Alpha 2 guide, complete with production sketches, so it worked out pretty well for all involved. :D

Prinnydood
09-12-2012, 04:04 PM
http://i.imgur.com/2djZG.jpg

Man, that font is seriously tacky. What's the point of plastering it over the shot if there was going to be a blurb right underneath it?

Octopus Prime
09-12-2012, 05:52 PM
Man, that font is seriously tacky. What's the point of plastering it over the shot if there was going to be a blurb right underneath it?

Especially since the shot itself kind of sums up both blurb and fugly font.

SpoonyBardOL
09-13-2012, 08:54 AM
Ahh, good ol' BORS, LEE, JED, and TOTH.

Y'know, I don't think I've ever done a playthrough of FF1 with those names, maybe I should change that.

Octopus Prime
09-13-2012, 09:17 AM
Ahh, good ol' BORS, LEE, JED, and TOTH.

Y'know, I don't think I've ever done a playthrough of FF1 with those names, maybe I should change that.

I did, because I was a simple-headed child who believed every word of that guide as the gospel truth.

It was also why I made it a point to buy ICE1, because the guide said it hit all targets and Nintendo Power wouldn't LIE to me, would it?

SpoonyBardOL
09-13-2012, 10:40 AM
Well if it didn't then you clearly did something wrong.

TirMcDohl
09-13-2012, 10:48 AM
Brickroad's needs to come up with strongly-worded rebuttals to everything in this issue.

Daikaiju
09-13-2012, 03:14 PM
I take issue with that bad art comment. Aside from taking liberies with the character designs (and sex; White Mage was female as we all found out years later) it's pretty nice!

Büge
09-13-2012, 04:32 PM
White Mage was female as we all found out years later

http://i.imgur.com/eNXiB.jpg

Even the official art is ambiguous!

Loki
09-14-2012, 12:53 AM
I take issue with that bad art comment. Aside from taking liberties with the character designs (and sex; White Mage was female as we all found out years later) it's pretty nice!

http://i.imgur.com/Dbixq.jpg

I don't man, I just don't know.

http://i.imgur.com/a4IV7.jpg

Chapter 2 is shorter than chapter 1, despite covering more ground. The mysteries of the Nintendo Power Final Fantasy Strategy Guide never cease.

Note the egregious advice in the lower left.

http://i.imgur.com/fZSNe.jpg

These little summaries are probably the best thing in the book. I like this invented background for Astos and the elf prince. This was back when you could come up with stuff to fill in the empty spaces, instead of whatever nonsense they used to justify FFXIII's craziness.

http://i.imgur.com/eM7YD.jpg

While the guide is light on actual game strategy, it is packed to the dickens with fetch quest details. I guess they thought players new to RPGs would get hung up on where to go next and not on getting stun-locked or using thieves.

http://i.imgur.com/mIT2m.jpg

But here's some strategy though: go grind Ogres! I took this advice to heart as a kid and so my game came to an end. I'd dive into the Marsh Cave and get slaughtered, I'd try to grind up Ogres and get slaughtered. I didn't see any other way to proceed (Nintendo Power said fight Ogres so you've got to fight Ogres!). I ended up walking around Elfland and running away from fights until I found a single Ogre along, would beat it, then rest at the Inn. I did this until the game wasn't fun then quit forever. It didn't take long.

http://i.imgur.com/lC2sv.jpg

This guide is crazy I tell you. Instead of getting to the Marsh Cave, it advises you to grind up to level 5 in order to talk to Astos, and then immediately after grind up to 9. Visiting the ancient castle is a waste of a trip if you're not playing blind and don't know where to go next. Still the guide said to do it so I did it. It's not like I had anywhere else to go otherwise.

http://i.imgur.com/Pt9OR.jpg

Here's the same page giving details on how to fight Astos. Because what's important is groping everything about a location together rather than how they're encountered in the game. Like that crystal though. Did they think if they drew a crystal ball kids would get it confused with the ORBs?

http://i.imgur.com/pKjcn.jpg

How many hours of our fleeting childhoods were lost thanks to this tip? Was 99 even necessary? I mean everyone says 99, but could you get through with 80? 65? When it takes 15 minutes to buy a single potion this is an important consideration.

http://i.imgur.com/NaQ6t.jpg

Marsh Cave coverage is kinda boring. It's mostly just maps and treasure locations. Which really is pretty useful. It does say to use HARM and CURE on undead so there's that. This is all you get for the Wizards, but I guess that's okay, you either can beat them or you can't. There's really no trick to them.

Does MUTE even work? Something in my brain is telling me MUTE doesn't work.

http://i.imgur.com/zJPz6.jpg

Then it’s off to use the TNT! Not even sentence one about going back to Astos or getting the elf key or looting the world. Because they already covered all of that back in sections where it wasn't relevant, and you wouldn't want the guide to be redundant would you?

http://i.imgur.com/cHck1.jpg

At the end of the chapter there is a break down of all the steps but again this just begs the question of why it isn't worked into normal guide flow. I guess RPGs were just so wild and different then that it took a bit to figure them out.

Next time: http://i.imgur.com/3XKSO.jpg

Tefari
09-14-2012, 01:23 AM
God damn if this thread isn't delightful.

I'm still not entirely sure how I ended up with an NP subscription as a kid. I guess maybe I filled out a product registration card on a whim? Or maybe we signed up for it through one of those magazine subscription/wrapping paper drives you do when you're a kid to gin up money for your school. Anyways one day this magazine showed up in my mailbox with the bold all caps bright orangered NINTENDO POWER on the front and I thought it was god himself delivering me a gift since at that age I had more Nintendo games than friends, so what could be more perfect than a magazine about the most important thing in my life at the time?

LBD_Nytetrayn
09-14-2012, 02:26 AM
Which show had the Villi Manilla cameo again?

No, seriously. I greatly preferred the Super Mario Bros. Super Show (without the surfer dudes, thanks) to the others.

That was Club Mario.

Captain N had some non-cringeworthy moments, but Super Mario 3 and especially Super Mario World were pure pain from start to finish.

Super Mario World was sort of like Super Show, with a few good moments scattered among... lesser moments. SMB3 was the one where they really felt like they actually worked with the material they were given, rather than making constant references to fables and pop culture, or emulating the Flintstones.

Alex Scott
09-14-2012, 05:59 AM
How many hours of our fleeting childhoods were lost thanks to this tip? Was 99 even necessary? I mean everyone says 99, but could you get through with 80? 65? When it takes 15 minutes to buy a single potion this is an important consideration.
For me it was. The Marsh Cave can be pretty brutal.
Does MUTE even work? Something in my brain is telling me MUTE doesn't work.
Whether it does or not, it doesn't matter, because WIZARDs only use physical attacks.

Loki
09-14-2012, 06:31 AM
That's what it was. I knew there was something.

Octopus Prime
09-14-2012, 09:29 AM
The guide also said that the Pure Spell was worth buying.

Even You g Octo realized that that was the most ridiculously wrong thing in the guide by far.

Prinnydood
09-14-2012, 11:08 AM
[IMG]How many hours of our fleeting childhoods were lost thanks to this tip? Was 99 even necessary? I mean everyone says 99, but could you get through with 80? 65? When it takes 15 minutes to buy a single potion this is an important consideration.

This is the most hilarious advice I've ever seen. Why not advise us to grind to level 50 while we're at it so that the game ceases to be a challenge?

Daikaiju
09-14-2012, 01:44 PM
My brother spent hours treading through the Hall Of Giants in the Earth Cave to grind XP and gold thanks to the guide. Brutal, but paid off in the end

ghosttaster
09-14-2012, 02:18 PM
http://i.imgur.com/eNXiB.jpg

Even the official art is ambiguous!

Is this really official art? What's it from?

Büge
09-14-2012, 02:26 PM
Is this really official art? What's it from?

I found it on RPGamer a long time ago.

Loki
09-14-2012, 03:50 PM
It's from Nintendo Power!

Volume 14 July/August 1990 (http://gamesjournal.wordpress.com/2011/01/05/nintendo-power-retrospective-issue-14-julyaugust-1990/)

mopinks
09-14-2012, 04:55 PM
I think that technically makes it "official" art

ghosttaster
09-14-2012, 06:53 PM
I was just curious. It definitely didn't look like anything Squaresoft would have produced, but I liked the designs for the various classes. It looks like Final Fantasy by way of Metal Hurlant.

Kirin
09-16-2012, 08:41 AM
For some reason I remember feeling pretty sure that the original WM design was a dude with long red hair, and that later female interpretations were a ret-con. Don't really remember why, though.

Octopus Prime
09-16-2012, 08:50 AM
For some reason I remember feeling pretty sure that the original WM design was a dude with long red hair, and that later female interpretations were a ret-con. Don't really remember why, though.

Well, the White Wizard looked more dude-ish.

Also, isn't Wizard the masculine term?

Kirin
09-17-2012, 09:06 AM
Nah, Wizard can be gender-neutral, and is probably an arbitrary translation from a Japanese term that's even more gender-neutral anyway. But yeah, probably some old memory of unequivocably masculine art of the White Wizard, though who knows where it was from.

Though, there's also the fact that the only (other?) female main character in 8-bit FF is Maria, who's pretty obvious. (Plus Leila counting guests, and her art's even more obvious.)

Zef
09-17-2012, 11:43 AM
Hahahaha, is that Frodo grieving at the sleeping Elf Prince while Black Belt snickers?

The day I found that NP Final Fantasy guide in a months-old game store in a Mexican mall was magical. Spoiled myself silly within seconds, I did. Thankfully, I was already halfway through my NP-mandated Ogre Grind, so the bad advice and spoiler-filled tips didn't burn me as they should have.

(I did get violent with the guide much later on, at the endgame, but that's a story for another time.)

I always thought the White Mage was female because only a girl would wear a cute white hoodie with bright red frills.

Zef
09-17-2012, 11:58 AM
http://i.imgur.com/A5775.jpg

The notorious Robin Hood. It’s actually looking pretty close to the finished product there. Why did it end up getting delayed so much again?


I don't know if you're asking seriously, but last I heard it was so it could tie into the Prince of Thieves movie coming out soon.

Octopus Prime
09-17-2012, 01:30 PM
I don't know if you're asking seriously, but last I heard it was so it could tie into the Prince of Thieves movie coming out soon.

I thought it was infamous because it was delayed until long after everyone ceased to give a wet slap about the movie. Or, like, until a year after NP did a cover story on it.

shivam
09-17-2012, 02:18 PM
i love the FF art from the guide. it looks so much like D&D art from that era that it hurts.

Of course, it reinforces my belief that FF1 really is just a D&D homebrew setting turned to a video game. The monsters are right out of the 1st ed monster manual, and the classes are all PHB stuff.

Torzelbaum
09-17-2012, 04:49 PM
http://i.imgur.com/eNXiB.jpgWhy hasn't anyone commented on Red Mage's 'stache?

Also, let's see - an eyepatch and either a headband or a dressing for a recent head wound? Yep, that's our FUKT.

Zef
09-17-2012, 04:51 PM
Why hasn't anyone commented on Red Mage's 'stache?

Also, let's see - an eyepatch and either a headband or a dressing for a recent head wound? Yep, that's our FUKT.

ASTOS really rubs him the wrong way.

Kirin
09-18-2012, 10:07 AM
Of course, it reinforces my belief that FF1 really is just a D&D homebrew setting turned to a video game. The monsters are right out of the 1st ed monster manual, and the classes are all PHB stuff.

Well... yeah. Pretty sure this is basically true. Hell, several D&D campaigns got turned into anime series around the same era...

ghosttaster
09-18-2012, 02:15 PM
Well... yeah. Pretty sure this is basically true. Hell, several D&D campaigns got turned into anime series around the same era...

What else besides Lodoss?

Kirin
09-19-2012, 11:21 AM
Hmmm... okay, I'm not sure if I can actually come up with much *explicitly* based off a particular campaign besides the various Lodoss incarnations, but there's a lot of other stuff with blatant D&D influence: Slayers, Those Who Hunt Elves, Rune Soldier Louie, Ruin Explorers, Bastard, Dragon Half... okay, yeah, at some point I'm just listing "Western fantasy style" anime, but I submit that Japan's whole view of Western fantasy is pretty heavily colored by D&D...

Googleshng
09-19-2012, 01:47 PM
Hmmm... okay, I'm not sure if I can actually come up with much *explicitly* based off a particular campaign besides the various Lodoss incarnations, but there's a lot of other stuff with blatant D&D influence: Slayers, Those Who Hunt Elves, Rune Soldier Louie, Ruin Explorers, Bastard, Dragon Half... okay, yeah, at some point I'm just listing "Western fantasy style" anime, but I submit that Japan's whole view of Western fantasy is pretty heavily colored by D&D...

Dragon Half is pretty much just straight up Dragon Quest, right down to the manga having traditional combat HP/MP/level display going on in more than one place (although it isn't nearly as DQ as Magic Circle Guru Guru).

Slayers though yeah, that one really really feels like you're just watching someone's AD&D campaign that's been running so long that everyone's jaded to serious quests and starting to get goofy.

Büge
09-19-2012, 02:52 PM
That's a sign you need to set it aside and do something else.

Octopus Prime
09-19-2012, 02:56 PM
I'm sorry Buge, but your policy means we wouldn't have gotten Slayers.

And that's just crazy talk

Kirin
09-20-2012, 07:09 AM
The Wil Wheaton in Nintendo Power pic is now on 1up's official tumblr (because I posted it on mine and Jeremy reblogged it). As it should be.

So I noticed an unusual number of likes and reblog notes on my tumblr feed this morning... the post got picked up by fuckyeahwilwheaton.tumblr.

Tomm Guycot
09-26-2012, 04:38 PM
Hey does anybody know of a reliable store where I can purchase new issues of NP?

I wanted to collect the farewell issues, but I have yet to find any NP anywhere.

Ted
09-26-2012, 05:22 PM
Yeah, I've been scoping out likely locations in preparation. My local places that carry NP are:

My local supermarket
Target
Books-a-Million

Tomm Guycot
09-26-2012, 05:36 PM
Yeah, I've been scoping out likely locations in preparation. My local places that carry NP are:

My local supermarket
Target
Books-a-Million


My Target is a no-go : /

I don't understand!

Zef
09-26-2012, 08:08 PM
My Barnes & Noble carries all game mags. If you want, I can grab an extra NP for you. When is the last issue coming out?

Seven
09-26-2012, 08:16 PM
The December issue is the last one.
Also I just got the October issue in the mail so 2 more to go.

Ted
09-27-2012, 06:33 AM
My Target is a no-go : /

I don't understand!

Weird!

Also I just got the October issue in the mail so 2 more to go.

Man, thinking of it that way really crystallizes the reality of it. Sad face.

Prinnydood
09-27-2012, 11:56 AM
I usually see a few Nintendo Powers at Wal-Mart near the gaming section.

upupdowndown
09-30-2012, 07:35 PM
Thanks for posting these, Loki. I had a NP subscription basically from the beginning - my first issue was the Castlevania II cover with that wicked severed head - and I think we stopped getting the magazine somewhere around '93 or so, when the NES was pretty much done and our family hadn't picked up a SNES. Damn, I recognized like two-thirds of the images you posted.

Stiv
10-01-2012, 08:26 PM
God that Final Fantasy strategy guide was like a fucking bible to me when I was 8.

It wasn't until I was in my 20s that I realized you could sequence break, it wasn't worth buying most spells, or that there were better class compositions than Fighter/BB/Black Mage/White Mage. That's how much I treated that guide as gospel.

Büge
10-01-2012, 09:51 PM
I had a friend that was deep enough into the game that I learned that Black Mages and Thieves were probably the least useful classes. He also did a party of four White Mages, which seemed pretty hardcore at the time.

LBD_Nytetrayn
10-02-2012, 12:34 AM
Got my next-to-next-to-last issue today... complete with a letter from Reggie and Chris Slate!

Man, Reggie... I'm sorry, but no. Your Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter presence in no way compares.

TE-Ryan
10-16-2012, 07:27 AM
So I don't really do magazines, but I'd like to pick up the last issue of NP for old times' sake. It's December, right? Does that mean it goes on sale in December, or will it show up in November or something? I faintly recall the dates on magazines (maybe just NP?) not matching up with when they become available to buy.

Mr. Sensible
10-16-2012, 05:47 PM
I picked up September and October's issues at my local Kroger and it seemed like they swapped them out pretty close to the first of the new month.

LBD_Nytetrayn
10-17-2012, 03:55 AM
Keep an eye out starting at the end of November. Or you might even just be able to order it from nintendopower.com.

madhair60
10-17-2012, 03:57 AM
Would anyone be interested in a "Let's Read" of a UK magazine, like Mean Machines, Sega Force or Super Play?

Vega
10-26-2012, 03:36 PM
Hey does anybody know of a reliable store where I can purchase new issues of NP?

I wanted to collect the farewell issues, but I have yet to find any NP anywhere.

If you live in Florida you can get them at Publix supermarkets.

Seven
11-07-2012, 10:54 PM
Just received the November issue in the mail yesterday and I was a little surprised to see that it came with a small packet of Kid Icarus AR cards. Anyway with that there is just one more issue to go.

Eirikr
11-08-2012, 02:33 AM
Just received the November issue in the mail yesterday and I was a little surprised to see that it came with a small packet of Kid Icarus AR cards. Anyway with that there is just one more issue to go.

Holy hell, I won't be home to receive the final issue of Nintendo Power. That feels so weird.

Are they still taking letter submissions? I kinda want to write them a thank-you (it was sort of a childhood dream to get a letter published in Nintendo Power, but I'll live regardless)

LBD_Nytetrayn
11-09-2012, 01:02 AM
I think they are; they're asking for your favorite Nintendo Power memories.

ArugulaZ
11-09-2012, 01:43 AM
Would anyone be interested in a "Let's Read" of a UK magazine, like Mean Machines, Sega Force or Super Play?

SUPER PLAY?! Oh god, yes! What a great magazine! I knew one of the editors back when I was doing a fanzine... not well, mind you, but enough to get a couple of letters and a few issues of SP out of him. He successfully predicted way back in late 1983/early 1994 that the Playstation would be the dominant console of the late 1990s. That was back when the Playstation was only mentioned in hushed whispers in the pages of EGM.

Man, Super Play kicked ass. So much better than most US magazines, even if it covered a game console that was my mortal enemy back in the early 1990s. Crisp pictures, comprehensive coverage, witty-in-that-charming-British-way writing, everything.

madhair60
11-09-2012, 01:52 AM
Right, I'll get started on that tonight.

ArugulaZ
11-10-2012, 01:17 AM
Right, I'll get started on that tonight.

What's the progress on this? Would love to know!

Daikaiju
11-10-2012, 03:51 AM
Can someone please get me a copy of the last issue? I've been asking around at bookstores and they've all but nixed ordering any more due to the impending cancellation.

PLEASE.

UPDATE: Just to be clear, yes, I will reimburse for the purchase and shipping.

botticus
11-27-2012, 05:44 PM
Just received the November issue in the mail yesterday and I was a little surprised to see that it came with a small packet of Kid Icarus AR cards. Anyway with that there is just one more issue to go.

So after remembering I had not looked for this yet, I stopped by the local grocery store to find a single copy on the shelf, was about to buy it, then noticed "10 AR Cards inside!", and realized it probably originally came within a sealed bag.

Then I went over to Walmart, where they had a couple copies, sealed in bags. I get home, open it up, and still no cards. So did only subscribers get those (which would be dumb, since there are subscriber-only covers, they wouldn't advertise them if they weren't there), or was there some packaging snafu?

I've put an email out to customer service ,just curious if anyone else has encountered this.

Octopus Prime
11-27-2012, 05:48 PM
My store-bought copy had 'em

Seven
11-27-2012, 06:06 PM
Last time I went to Walmart (About 3 days ago) they had the magazines sealed with the cards inside.

Excitemike
04-02-2014, 12:45 PM
So, the latest Retronauts (http://www.retronauts.com/?p=689) egged me to look at some old Nintendo Powers, and then I was trapped inside a white hot nostalgia event for most of the evening. So, with respect to Loki, I'm going to dial back the clock a bit to the first issue.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-01.jpg

I was aware of the Nintendo Fun Club but probably did not know what a mailing list was, let alone how to get on one. There was one kid in our neighborhood who had a few issues but no one knew how he got them. Then, one day, this thing descended from the heavens and blew our tiny minds. Not much to say about the cover that hasn't been said before, it's an iconic image for anyone who was a kid at the time.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-02.jpg

Counselors are standing by! I used to imagine them all wearing varsity jackets in their cubicles. And who says girls didn't play games? They were giving tips!

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-03.jpg
http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-04.jpg

And here's some of that Tokuma Shoten mojo in action. Nintendo games, and by extension Nintendo Power, were the first real glimpse into Japanese pop culture in a time where America was still actively xenophobic about those things. I don't think these were taken from Japanese magazines wholesale but there is a manga sensibility that trickled down through these illustrations, informed by a Western art direction, that really blends the two worlds together.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-05.jpg
http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-06.jpg

I feel so old whenever I say something like this, but in the age before the internet, information like this was a godsend. Maybe, maybe, you had a friend with the fold out Hyrule map but no one had any info on the second quest. Also the beginning of the trend for NP providing coverage for older games that were still quite popular.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-07.jpg

And here's the other side of the art style, the squiggly surfboard graphic/Fido Dido-style illustrations that helped define the "peanut butter and jelly layout" look of the magazine.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-08.jpg

More help with older games, a big chunk of the early Counselor's Corners were devoted to content originally published in the The Official Nintendo Player's Guide.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-09.jpg

The first Howard and Nester, in which Howard Phillips bridges the gap between the Nintendo Fun Club and NP.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-10.jpg

Here's some Double Dragon, manga as all get out.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-11.jpg
http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-12.jpg
http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-13.jpg

The Video Shorts section previewed upcoming video games but why do they use a film reel as their icon? Also, probably the only time I've ever seen City Connection magazine art.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-14.jpg

Pak Watch swowcased games that would be a bit further off. Yes, that is Golgo 13. No, that is not the last time Duke Togo will grace the pages of NP.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-15.jpg
http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-16.jpg

I don't think I ever entered any NP contests but they did have some neat prizes. Ten NES games would have rocked my little world.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-17.jpg

A new version of a game called Dragon Quest. (http://youtu.be/yt4KG9ib8S4?t=6m4s) I thought it was interesting that were people lining up for a new games, and adults at that. It would also be another year or so until we saw Dragon Warrior, and this piece underscores just how behind the US was on the Famicom craze.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-18.jpg

The afore mentioned Nintendo Player's Guide and a Top Gun competition.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-19.jpg

The early NP issues also featured TV and movie previews. Was this a diversion for the beleaguered writers? Just a few pages of extra filler? I have never even heard of this Cyndi Lauper movie.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-20.jpg

Combined with the celebrity interviews, it's clear the staff was trying to legitimize gaming by placing it on an equal footing with other media. In retrospect it seems a little desperate but I always enjoyed reading these as a kid. Candice Cameron also plays games! Where did they find all these girl gamers, anyhow?

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-21.jpg
http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-22.jpg

The beginning of a long trend of grandmothers being featured in the letters section. Forget girl gamers, the real rarity on display is the person so consumes with Legend of Kage that they just had to write a letter about it.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-23.jpg

I've been reading scans of these old issues and what strikes me how weathered and beaten these old magazines are. I imagine pristine copies are pretty hard to come by. These magazines were a valuable resource, and I know my copies were just as well-read.

Oh, hey, so I emailed the cover photographer for these old issues. I was going to see if they want to answer some questions about the covers, anything in particular I should ask?

Balrog
04-02-2014, 01:08 PM
I remember tracing the graphics from all the Nintendo Powers but that one especially. It's a shame (relief???) that I probably just threw them away.

estragon
04-02-2014, 01:18 PM
Those articles on Dragon Ball--based on "'Hsi Yu Chi' (Monkey)"--and Dragon Quest are really bizarre. Especially the weird focus in the Dragon Quest article on swords and sorcery replacing ninja and and "kung fu masters" in an eastern country. I wonder if the authors were intentionally playing into stereotypes to make it friendly to kids or if they had like 3 bullet points of information and some pictures and had to expand it into an article somehow. Probably both.

Is there a good oral history of how Nintendo Power was put together anywhere?

Excitemike
04-02-2014, 01:24 PM
Is there a good oral history of how Nintendo Power was put together anywhere?

This week's retronauts is the best that I know of.

Excitemike
04-02-2014, 01:31 PM
Oh, they mentioned Frank Cifaldi's articles as well:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/183233/nintendo_power_remembering_.php

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9014722

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9015866

Parish
04-02-2014, 01:38 PM
http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-12.jpg

This page was basically created for me.

LBD_Nytetrayn
04-04-2014, 05:38 PM
So, the latest Retronauts (http://www.retronauts.com/?p=689) egged me to look at some old Nintendo Powers, and then I was trapped inside a white hot nostalgia event for most of the evening. So, with respect to Loki, I'm going to dial back the clock a bit to the first issue.

Man, I wish I could have been on there. I miss both reading and writing for the magazine alike. Ah well.

I was aware of the Nintendo Fun Club but probably did not know what a mailing list was, let alone how to get on one. There was one kid in our neighborhood who had a few issues but no one knew how he got them. Then, one day, this thing descended from the heavens and blew our tiny minds. Not much to say about the cover that hasn't been said before, it's an iconic image for anyone who was a kid at the time.

I have some Fun Club issues, but my set is incomplete.

And here's some of that Tokuma Shoten mojo in action. Nintendo games, and by extension Nintendo Power, were the first real glimpse into Japanese pop culture in a time where America was still actively xenophobic about those things. I don't think these were taken from Japanese magazines wholesale but there is a manga sensibility that trickled down through these illustrations, informed by a Western art direction, that really blends the two worlds together.

I think those were actually from a series of guides for the SMB games in Japan. Blew my mind when I saw art of that for Super Mario Bros. 3 (http://poisonmushroom-org.tumblr.com/post/77643236243/suppermariobroth-front-and-back-of-a-japanese) recently!

Oh, hey, so I emailed the cover photographer for these old issues. I was going to see if they want to answer some questions about the covers, anything in particular I should ask?

Any idea if the models still exist? He probably wouldn't know that, though...

Is there a good oral history of how Nintendo Power was put together anywhere?

I think this might shed some light on things (http://www.nintendoplayer.com/the-man-behind-captain-nintendo/).

Loki
04-04-2014, 10:50 PM
http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP01-04.jpg

This is super great, all these characters and stuff from the game, just enough off model to have its own charm, and at the same time highlighting the different character's abilities. I love it. I love all of the original NP art. Even the wacky pac-watch and letters column stuff.

Especially that stuff.

Oh, hey, so I emailed the cover photographer for these old issues. I was going to see if they want to answer some questions about the covers, anything in particular I should ask?

Oh I hope they respond! I want to know it all. Like what kind of budget were they working with. Was is a shoestring? I imagine it must have been. What was the art direction like? Did they play the games they were supposte to depect or were they given brief descriptions? Etc? Etc?

Edit: Thanks for picking this back up, BTW!

Excitemike
04-10-2014, 11:12 AM
http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0201.jpg

Issue #2! What I never realized until recently was that the cover photos featuring models were not people, but actual models! It makes sense given what was probably a low budget, and that you never see anyone's face. The pile of Drac guts is a great detail.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0202.jpg

This kid is '80s as a motherfucker, riding the wave of great titles coming for your Nintendo! With all these games coming out, you're going to have to mark your calender.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0203.jpg

But they already marked it for you! What a stellar year for games, I hope nothing happens that would hold up the production of games this Winter, leading to a shortage of some sort.


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First feature is a stellar spread on Bionic Commando. Funny how they would put the sprite art right up next to the artwork, kind of highlights how off-model it is, but I expect no other incongruities in this issue.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0206.jpg

YOOOOO JOOOOOE!!!

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http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0209.jpg

Oh no, I've accidentally posted the same image three times in a row??
Nope, that is just same lazy layout. Moving right along.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0210.jpg

Another great feature, this time on Castlevania II. Drac ain't even mad about last time, look how happy he is to see you!

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0211.jpg

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0212.jpg

And we have another version of Bionic Commando! We'll call him the C version.

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http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0214.jpg

Mario Bros 2 coverage continues with maps and tips for World 3, also the return of miscolored hat Mario from last issues cover.

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http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0216.jpg

And some more gross layout. In the words of River City Ransom: "BARF"

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http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0218.jpg

Followed by a rad R.C. Pro-Am spread! The back and forth between the quality of these layouts made me a little disorientated. I'm guessing Life Force and Renegade are from the American side of the production team?

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0219.jpg

Classified Information features all you ever wanted to know about Kid Niki, Radical Ninja but were afraid to ask! But this tip on the jar rooms in Kid Icarus was invaluable to me at the time.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0220.jpg

The tip on page 48 is uh grab a mushroom ok thanks Nester.


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Hot Action and Sharp Shooting! Now is where we cross the divide from manga-influenced art to actual manga art, from a very age-inappropriate manga. I am scratching my brain trying to think of an example where I would have seen manga any earlier than this. I don't even think Epic was publishing Akira at this point.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0224.jpg
http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0225.jpg

More Blaster Master, this time with those hot frog escaping cut scenes. Such a different time, game releases were so vague that coverage like this was routinely spread out because who knew when your Toys R Us would even get a game in. The way promotion is now spread over the course of a month around a games release, it was not uncommon to see games promoted over an entire season (or longer!).

Holy image caps

Excitemike
04-10-2014, 11:14 AM
http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0226.jpg

Xenomorph is definitely not based on a popular movie franchise nosiree, you see that copyright it says Bally Midway, and they do not make any movies at all! Everything is on the up and up here, please move along!

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0227.jpg

Fighting Golf was the lesser known predecessor to Battle Golfer Yui.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0228.jpg

Jackal was one of the few Konami games that I owned myself. Not sure how it holds up, but I had a blast with it.

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http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0230.jpg

A feature about "the classics"; games from the arcade, some of them over five years old! Donkey Kong is a game where clip art characters do battle against each other. The Galaga box art is kind of cool...? That's not what I imagine the enemies looking like but still an interesting take.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0231.jpg
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Dear Zelda,

I'm here in Kyoto with my programmer Mr. Miyamoto. He is forcing me to break the fourth wall and explain to children how Nintendo's corrupt publishing practices will mean that their parents will have to tear each other to shreds in order to find the games we are promoting like crazy this Christmas. It has something to do with computer chips, which is something we know about in our fantasy kingdom. Perhaps they would like a Power Pad as featured on the next page instead??

All the best,
Link

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These dudes are crazy rich because they started make video games, like, seven years ago! Also, please take the Official Nintendo Player's Guides off our hands, we didn't anticipate that it would be dated so quickly!

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0235.jpg

Yeah, I kind of vaguely remember there being a TV show based on Dirty Dancing but these other two are a complete mystery. Nice spot illustration by Shuji Imai, though!

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0236.jpg

What do athletes do when they're not on the field? Nothing we can talk about in a children's magazine, so let's ask them about video games.


http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0237.jpg

Poor Sega kids being humiliated in the classroom, and a mom that plays video games!? That's like a girl, but bigger.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0238.jpg

The first in a series of illustrations instructing you how to take a photograph of your video game. Then you go to photo shop, get a print, put that into an envelope and mail it. Then six months later it gets printed in a magazine!

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You'll start seeing Zelda II in stores in December! Or not!

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Guys, they had to mail a photograph from England! These were the dark ages, when the Post Office was a thing that was relevant.

Loki
04-10-2014, 11:31 AM
What I never realized until recently was that the cover photos featuring models were not people, but actual models!

Whaattt? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttt?????

Kishi
04-10-2014, 11:39 AM
That Simon's Quest cover infamously received complaints from parents for the graphic image of our hero clutching Dracula's severed head. I never even noticed the pile of assorted viscera.

It's also interesting that the Life Force boss names are translated from their Japanese names and not drawn from Konami USA's...unique imagination. (They mixed up Intruder and Tetran, though.) You can tell the magazine was still getting its information directly from Japanese sources at this point.

Büge
04-10-2014, 11:43 AM
http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0212.jpg

Oh god the airbrushing

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/NP/NP0231.jpg

Mickey Mouse?

u-LfKbCR0MI

LBD_Nytetrayn
04-11-2014, 12:45 PM
Ah, this gets me where it hurts. I think this is the only issue I'm currently missing (I'll have to take inventory to be sure) after The Purging. Worse, it was one of my favorites, too. =(

Also, please take the Official Nintendo Player's Guides off our hands, we didn't anticipate that it would be dated so quickly!

Hey, that thing is top-to-bottom pure awesome. It's where I learned that Doc Lewis was a raging alcoholic before he saw Little Mac taking it to some street thugs.

Excitemike
04-11-2014, 01:03 PM
Hey, that thing is top-to-bottom pure awesome. It's where I learned that Doc Lewis was a raging alcoholic before he saw Little Mac taking it to some street thugs.

http://excitemike.net/eye_robot/littlemacorigin.jpg

huh

Kishi
04-11-2014, 01:30 PM
I guess he weaned himself off alcohol with chocolate.

ProfessorS
04-28-2014, 08:36 AM
Hey there! I like this thread a lot and I'd like to contribute.

Today, I'd like to go over Nintendo Power's Top 100 Best Games of All Time - So You Wanna Fight About It? Edition. The list was made in 1997 for Nintendo Power's 100th issue and they are in full desperate N64 shilling mode with half the issue being previews of N64 games of...variable quality. Plus the entire issue has that ugly design and layouts you saw from around 1995-on.

It's not a bad list and has a ton of great games, though I'd say I enjoy EGM's top 100 games list(which came out around the same time) much more. There's some notable exceptions and questionable placement here and there. Also, this list has a bad habit of having one game represent and entire series.

I've always been fascinated by these types of list. When I was a kid, I always thought I had pretty good taste in games, so it was always nice to read a list like this and find that my love of something like Star Tropics or Earthbound to be validated.

Anyway, without further ado...

http://i.imgur.com/C9keRbal.jpg


Unlike a lot of other lists I've seen, this list starts with the top games and works it's way backwards.

Not shockingly, Mario 64 takes the top spot. It was a huge game and incredibly influential at the time. It does feel a bit shortsighted of a choice nowadays.

Nice to see A Link to the Past at #2. No arguments there, though I think I prefer the original Zelda nowadays. Tetris rounds out our top 3 which always seems like a dark horse contender for these types of lists. EGM's top 100 list actually put Tetris at #1, citing it's addictiveness and replay value.

http://i.imgur.com/6BqfG5jl.jpg

Slots 4-10 are taken by very solid, worthy games, so I don't have a whole lot to say here. Mario Kart 64 is a little high, but I like the SNES one better. I'm glad they placed Street Fighter 2 Turbo here, because I think it's waaaaay better than Super.

http://i.imgur.com/uEeaPfLl.jpg

I actually like Super Mario World better than SMB 3 but I feel like I'm in the minority there. The only questionable choice here is Wave Race 64 which I thought was kinda sucky even at the time, despite it's fancy water graphics.

http://i.imgur.com/fM62SdXl.jpg

This page we begin to see what I was talking about earlier, using one game to represent an entire series. Is there really anybody out there that thinks Mega Man 1 deserves to be listed hire than 2 or 3? Same with Castlevania. I love the game, but III is a much stronger game in almost all aspects. We also see Donkey Kong Country 3 here, which all 3 of those games make the list. I love DKC...but all 3 on this list? I dunno.

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Once again, Tecmo Bowl instead of Tecmo Super Bowl? NBA Jam, but not Tournament Edition? I will say that International Super Star Soccer 64 is the only realistic soccer game I've ever enjoyed. I love the menu music too. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zei1B5cR--A)

http://i.imgur.com/wIOjBIol.jpg

More classic games! And Pilotwings 64. Also, put me in the camp that thinks Zelda 2 is underrated.

http://i.imgur.com/85G3OMjl.jpg (http://imgur.com/85G3OMj)

I remember thinking Shadows of the Empire being considered a crappy, overhyped game, but I was so far lost in my Star Wars fandom at the time that I thought it was great. With the majority of Nintendo's well known games already on the list, we start to see some deep cuts like Shadowrun and Secret of Mana.

http://i.imgur.com/nxVKFcYl.jpg (http://imgur.com/nxVKFcY)

Tetrisphere is actually a cool game, maybe not Top 100 worthy, but a lot of fun. I think Contra and Bionic Commando are placed pretty well, but I think Super Castlevania should be a lot higher. Killer Instinct Gold? Really?

http://i.imgur.com/AgK5Lnnl.jpg (http://imgur.com/AgK5Lnn)

Here's a page that was pretty much made for me. Earthbound! Star Tropics! Mega Man X! Maniac Mansion! Speaking of Earthbound, it's nice to see NP recognizing it after Nintendo tried their best to kill the game in North America with a hideously stupid ad campaign.

http://i.imgur.com/og0kl4El.jpg

Hey! Zombies Ate My Neighbors. Great game, but ridiculously tough. As for the top 10 list of worst games ever...it's mostly what you'd expect though I'll say that Michael Jordan game is actually halfway decent. I remember bringing this issue into school and a kid swearing to me that Shaq Fu was actually one of the best games of all time.

http://i.imgur.com/gQZ2yMZl.jpg

Not a whole lot to say here, but I think as far as Double Dragon games go, the SNES one is probably the best. Also it's a crime that River City Ransom is nowhere to be found on this list. Also: RC Pro Am, hell yeah.

http://i.imgur.com/THBBcysl.jpg

We finally see a Dragon Warrior game...and it's outranked by Breath of Fire and Faceball 2000? Okay. You'd think with NP's association with the original DW that we'd see it somewhere on this list. Also, TMNT 4 is awesome. Secret Shame: I've never been able to get into the NES version of Metal Gear.

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Demon's Crest fuck yesssssssssss. I'd put Lufia 2 on this list instead of the original but whatever.

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Finishing things out is a real....grab bag of games. I'm not sure if any of them are really Top 100 worthy. Where's Ducktales? Legend of the Mystical Ninja? Any Kunio game?

Rascally Badger
04-28-2014, 04:09 PM
Maybe its because I didn't really pay attention to video games from about 93-98, but was there really a time when people considered Turok a better game than Mega Man X(among others)? Please tell me that is just Nintendo Power shilling the N64.

Kishi
04-28-2014, 04:09 PM
That list was the first I'd ever heard of Crystalis. Reading about its doomsday prediction for October 1, 1997 in September '97 made for an amusing impression.

A couple months after this, EGM released a similar list for their own hundredth issue; I remember that being the first I'd heard of Bionic Commando, even though it's in this list... I guess their description caught my eye more because it mentioned the game's lack of jumping. Unheard of!

Oh, and yeah—even back then, I knew something was deeply wrong with ranking DKC3 above 2.

ProfessorS
04-28-2014, 05:14 PM
It's totally shilling on Nintendo's part. Going through that list just reminded me how poorly a lot of games from that era, especially N64 games have aged.

Speaking of EGM, their list (http://kirk.is/vgames/powerlist/egm100.html) is totally awesome, look at them flex their hardcore cred! Saturn Bomberman! R-Type III! Military Madness! Snatcher!

Kishi
04-28-2014, 06:19 PM
The one they did in 2003 named Super Metroid as the greatest of all time, which was so correct it hurt.

shivam
04-28-2014, 06:28 PM
there is no fucking way dragon warrior is that far down the list.

narcodis
04-28-2014, 11:05 PM
Wave Race 64?? The hell?
I'd be okay with that list if it was prefaced with "in no particular order".

Loki
04-28-2014, 11:06 PM
there is no fucking way dragon warrior is that far down the list.

Makes sense for a list written in 97. Heck, I'm surprised it's even on there!

Daikaiju
05-03-2014, 03:48 AM
Dragon Quest came off as rather primitive at the time, especially with having to use a menu to take the friggin' stairs. The towns looked like Duplo playsets circa 1975. Next to it's nearest available (in the USA) contemporary (LoZ) it was a flint knife next to a bronze sword.

Kishi
05-03-2014, 04:50 AM
It's DQIV, though.

I just noticed NP advised us to look out for a modern follow-up to Metal Gear in 1998—except they were talking about Hybrid Heaven. What?

Daikaiju
05-03-2014, 05:58 AM
IV? Well in that case by that time, Final Fantasy had arrived, taken DQ's lunch, dinner, and any future meals.

Loki
05-03-2014, 06:04 AM
Final Fantasy II was out before Dragon Warrior IV in the US. Shivam was referring to the series as a whole, I think, but IV is the only one to make this particular list.

Octopus Prime
05-03-2014, 06:25 AM
4s more than good enough to carry the entire series.

Daikaiju
05-03-2014, 06:52 AM
To be clear, I'm not debating IV's quality, just the perception at the time this list was made. Heck, I never even saw a copy of IV on the shelves back then.

Excitemike
05-03-2014, 07:16 AM
To be clear, I'm not debating IV's quality, just the perception at the time this list was made. Heck, I never even saw a copy of IV on the shelves back then.

The first time I had hear of it's existence was in about... 2005 or so? My friend worked in a bookstore, they were clearing out old stock and he found a DWIV strategy guide. I thought Enix stopped at DWIII.

Ghost from Spelunker
05-03-2014, 01:52 PM
Maybe its because I didn't really pay attention to video games from about 93-98, but was there really a time when people considered Turok a better game than Mega Man X(among others)? Please tell me that is just Nintendo Power shilling the N64.

I have my February 1999 Electronic Gaming Monthly open and guess what the Review Crew gave Turok 2?
John D: 8.5
John R: 8.5
Crispin: 8.5
Shawn: 8.0

So either people didn't know better back then, or Turok bought a lot of writers.

Excitemike
05-03-2014, 08:44 PM
On a scale of 7 to 10, 8.5 is average.

Kate or Die!
05-03-2014, 11:04 PM
Wave Race 64??

Hell yeah. There were dolphins and shit.

LBD_Nytetrayn
05-04-2014, 12:39 AM
It's DQIV, though.

I just noticed NP advised us to look out for a modern follow-up to Metal Gear in 1998—except they were talking about Hybrid Heaven. What?

I remember that, which only confused me later. I don't think they were the only ones making that comparison, leading me to think it might have come from Konami, but I could be wrong.

Octopus Prime
05-04-2014, 04:46 AM
I can understand the love for Turok at the time; how many other games were on the market that allowed you to shoot a dinosaur with a shotgun?

But, I'm the years that have followed, more and more games have included dinosaurs and shotguns, and now it simply is not that big of a deal.

ProfessorS
05-04-2014, 05:47 PM
I remember the first Turok game being pretty assy, even for the time but it was a game on the N64, so everyone played it. The only way I could really enjoy the game is if I did the all weapons, big head midget disco mode cheats. For what it's worth, the sequel is a lot better, dunno how it holds up nowadays though.

Destil
05-15-2014, 03:53 PM
Dragon Warrior III and IV are both really, really excellent NES RPGs. I prefer III but they're both great. No Mega Man 2 or 3 (but Mega Man 1?) and Mega Man X being that far down are pretty questionable.

Shaq-Fu is actually a thoroughly mediocre game and doesn't deserve to be on a any sort of worst games list, though I think it had a lot of hype/advertising that caused a backlash. It's an also-ran Mortal Kombat, you can at least wring some fun out of the multiplayer if you care to.

EDIT: Faceball 2000 deserves a slot, there, though. That game was terrible and multiplayer only made it worse.

SpoonyBardOL
05-16-2014, 06:23 AM
I remember thinking Shadows of the Empire being considered a crappy, overhyped game, but I was so far lost in my Star Wars fandom at the time that I thought it was great.

About the only thing I remember about Shadows of the Empire these days is its Final Battle music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rve4durLqp0). I played it long before FF7 and it was the first time I was exposed to 'omg awesome chanting in a videro gaaaaaaaaaame so cooooooooooool!'.

ProfessorS
06-09-2014, 06:26 PM
Hey there! I'd like to talk about another issue of Nintendo Power. This time in (way too much) detail! If anyone is wondering, I got these scans from retromags.com, a simply wonderful site if you're a game mag geek.

http://i.imgur.com/Vs5qhusl.jpg (http://imgur.com/Vs5qhus)

This is sort of an important issue for me. I just received this in the mail the other day and it completes my collection of Nintendo Power issues from 1994(after losing all my old NP issues years ago). Why is this important to me you ask? Well, 1994 is a year and an era I'm particularly fond of in gaming and in my personal life. It just felt like so much was going on, Nintendo and Sega were at the top, and this felt like the climax of the 16-bit wars. As a SNES kid, this really felt like the year Nintendo pulled ahead with games like Super Metroid, Final Fantasy III and Donkey Kong Country. Also, you had the 3DO, the Jaguar, the Neo-Geo, and even the CD-i all vying for sales while the Playstation and Saturn loomed on the horizon. I remember reading a ton of magazines from this year. I used to spend hours poring over those huge 400 page EGMs. I especially enjoyed reading Game Players, which had developed an irreverent sense of humor that would turn into all out insanity in 1995. And of course, Nintendo Power was required reading for any Nintendo fan. This really felt like the last year for "classic" Nintendo Power, the year after would get rid of the charming illustrations and replace them with some ugly rendered graphics. Though I think older, NES era issues of Nintendo Power are more fun to read nowadays, I always pick up an issue from 1994 when I'm in the mood for the warm fuzzies.

http://i.imgur.com/B4pPFbSl.jpg (http://imgur.com/B4pPFbS) http://i.imgur.com/BBEONXtl.jpg (http://imgur.com/BBEONXt)

Starting off...we have a guy in a tutu in the ad for the Super Metroid guide. This was the year that Nintendo decided to jump on the Xtreme 90's Advertising bandgwagon.

http://i.imgur.com/ePKutQDl.jpg (http://imgur.com/ePKutQD)

Contents! Over the past few years, NP had grown slicker and more professional. They covered SNES games up front, Game Boy games in the middle of the magazine and NES games towards the end with other sections sprinkled throughout. As far as games this month, we have the legendary Super Metroid and well...a bunch of solid titles but I don't see anything else I would consider an out and out classic. Also, hey! An NES game! That was sort of a rarity in 1994.

http://i.imgur.com/OiKJu6pl.jpg (http://imgur.com/OiKJu6p)

We start things off with Players's Pulse It looks like the topic of the day is cheers and jeers about this year's bonus issue in January. I gotta disagree with Dawn Miley because I loved reading about the games from Japan section. How else would I know there was a United States presidential election simulator? Of course there was some Sega bashing as well, as it was the 16-bit wars were waging...Somewhat disheartening is the people sticking up from the terrible, censored SNES version of Mortal Kombat. The envelope art this month is alright with what looks a surprising lack of art traced from other sources!

http://i.imgur.com/zeU9PfCl.jpg (http://imgur.com/zeU9PfC) http://i.imgur.com/u2Wo0zal.jpg (http://imgur.com/u2Wo0za) http://i.imgur.com/KXYRNdpl.jpg (http://imgur.com/KXYRNdp) http://i.imgur.com/CzI3cXDl.jpg (http://imgur.com/CzI3cXD)

The first game covered this month is Super Metroid. While I enjoyed it as a 9-year old, I don't think I truly appreciated how brilliant the game was until years later. The coverage covers some weapons and techniques, and while they give you a lot of maps, it only goes up to the Crocomire and at that point they shill you the Player's Guide. Not a bad idea on their part.

http://i.imgur.com/zDXgne6l.jpg (http://imgur.com/zDXgne6) http://i.imgur.com/ImisRqkl.jpg (http://imgur.com/ImisRqk)

Next up is King of Dragons. A good port of a perfectly serviceable Capcom beat-em-up with RPG elements. I actually like this game a lot. One of my favorite things about this year is the sheer number of SNES games that came out. I want to say that around 250 games came out this year for the system. As someone who rented 95% of the games they played(even as a kid, I realized my 5 buck a week allowance went better towards a rental rather than saving up for 12 weeks to buy something like Bubsy), stuff that made a great weekend rental, like KoD was just as important to me as meatier games like Super Metroid.

http://i.imgur.com/AYzSIm8l.jpg (http://imgur.com/AYzSIm8) http://i.imgur.com/l3nQ1N8l.jpg (http://imgur.com/l3nQ1N8)

Whatever happened to the caveman genre in video games? I feel like there used to be a ton of these back in the 8 and 16-bit eras. Joe and Mac 2 is pretty good. Less linear than the first game and lets you do some wacky stuff like get married and have hideously huge babies.

http://i.imgur.com/rLa6yI8l.jpg (http://imgur.com/rLa6yI8) http://i.imgur.com/b6ZJqhYl.jpg (http://imgur.com/b6ZJqhY)

I've never played this game, so I don't have a lot to say about it except that your weird vacuum weapon looks like a lot of fun and that I love the music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZDarLN0Nmo) in the first level.

It didn't scan very well, so I'm not going show it, but the poster is for The Jungle Book. By the way, thanks to Madhair I can't see anything about The Jungle Book without thinking of this (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19832728/junglefever.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/LKel3Vhl.jpg (http://imgur.com/LKel3Vh)

It seems like every magazine at this time has a sports game section themed like the sports page in a newspaper. I'm not a huge sports game fan so I'm going to gloss over it. I just want to say that despite the less than glowing review, Natsume Championship Wrestling is awesome and the closest thing America got to a Fire Pro game(at least in terms of gameplay) during this era. Also, Suzuka 8 Hours was freaking ubiquitous in arcades back in the day.

http://i.imgur.com/IlXdDbal.jpg (http://imgur.com/IlXdDba) http://i.imgur.com/cs3BCl8l.jpg (http://imgur.com/cs3BCl8)

Spectre is an interesting looking game that I've never played. Apparently it's based on a Macintosh game? I want to give NP some more credit at this point, the art direction for the reviews the reviews is great and really makes you want to play the games. Compare similar reviews in say EGM and it's like night and day.

http://i.imgur.com/g87JPCDl.jpg (http://imgur.com/g87JPCD) http://i.imgur.com/nKJ6I6ql.jpg (http://imgur.com/nKJ6I6q)

Strangely enough, we have two fantasy-themed Capcom brawlers with RPG-elements this month. They are both pretty good, but I think I prefer King of Dragons. Knights of the Round pretty much feels like Final Fight with Swords. NP isn't too impressed with the game either - Even though they praise the fact it's a Capcom game, they immediately come back and say "There are far better Capcom titles available" which they usually refrain from that type of criticism in these reviews. That doesn't stop them from giving the game a ton of coverage and original illustrations.

http://i.imgur.com/qV0Yh5al.jpg (http://imgur.com/qV0Yh5a) http://i.imgur.com/mm45CSEl.jpg (http://imgur.com/mm45CSE)

Oh hey, the Nintendo Power Awards! Let's criticize what the wonderful readers of NP thought were the best games 1993. No real surprises on the first two pages. Mega Man V sweeps the NES awards, though I think Kirby's Adventure should have at least won the Theme and Fun. Glad to see Secret of Mana with the Theme and Fun award.

http://i.imgur.com/YwNGxmYl.jpg (http://imgur.com/YwNGxmY) http://i.imgur.com/5QiF2LPl.jpg (http://imgur.com/5QiF2LP)


The Lost Vikings is awesome and deserves all the love it can get. I'm surprised we haven't seen a remake or a reboot of the series. The Best Overall awards are kind of a mess. Mortal Kombat wins the whole thing for SNES? Apparently Secret of Mana only lost by 5 votes. I know there are AT LEAST 5 people on this board alone who subscribed to NP back then who didn't vote but would have chosen Secret of Mana. I blame you! Also: Magical Quest? Not Super Mario All-Stars of Star Fox? The Game Boy award is fine, but I think it's strange after sweeping so many other awards, Mega Man V doesn't even place in Best Overall NES.

http://i.imgur.com/9VyiEnMl.jpg (http://imgur.com/9VyiEnM)

Classified Information with the classic manila folder background. A year or so after this, Nintendo Power would change the look of this section and caused a massive shitstorm among the readers...anyway, t he most interesting code this month is the uh..."Hyruken" code for Mega Man X.

Whoo, that was a LOT! And I'm only about halfway done. Check back next time when I'll cover the rest of the magazine which includes a very interesting chapter in the Super Metroid comic, a preview for the Super Game Boy and a neat walkthrough for a classic NES game.

Octopus Prime
06-09-2014, 06:43 PM
Look, I'm sure RC PRO AM 2 is a perfectly fine game but... Better than Kirby? Or Mega Man?

Geez...

SpoonyBardOL
06-12-2014, 11:26 AM
Oh hey, the Nintendo Power Awards! Let's criticize what the wonderful readers of NP thought were the best games 1993. No real surprises on the first two pages. Mega Man V sweeps the NES awards, though I think Kirby's Adventure should have at least won the Theme and Fun. Glad to see Secret of Mana with the Theme and Fun award.

Oh man, I remember that year's Nintendo Power Awards. I actually wrote to the magazine to complain about Mega Man 5!

Not for its standing, but because two of the screenshots they have for it are actually from Mega Man 4!

I started early with my nerdy nitpicking.

Kishi
06-12-2014, 01:39 PM
It was a little sad when they took Nester's face off the awards.

Torzelbaum
06-12-2014, 06:14 PM
http://i.imgur.com/zDXgne6l.jpg (http://imgur.com/zDXgne6)Next up is King of Dragons. I remember pumping many a quarter into this arcade game. Also, I thought Gildiss was such a cool name that when playing Final Fantasy 3/6 (stupid numbering BS) I renamed Cyan to Gildis.

ProfessorS
06-15-2014, 01:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/IViw7ecl.jpg (http://imgur.com/IViw7ec) http://i.imgur.com/YFPG7Ivl.jpg (http://imgur.com/YFPG7Iv)

http://i.imgur.com/GQwQjQbl.jpg (http://imgur.com/GQwQjQb) http://i.imgur.com/pwK6sWIl.jpg (http://imgur.com/pwK6sWI)

Hey! A Super Metroid comic! For the past few years, Nintendo Power had been putting serialized comics in the magazine. Previously in the magazine we've seen Super Mario World, Link to the Past and a (totally awesome) Star Fox comic. The Super Metroid comic is arguably the weakest, mainly due to the fact that it's half the length of the other comics. Lots of stuff, namely Samus's fight with Mother Brain is glossed over. Also, the baby Metroid is killed by this comic's equivalent of Chief Wiggum. I'm not too up to speed with the Metroid backstory, but is this where Samus being raised by the Chozo was established? The dude with the beard is Houston, a fellow bounty hunter. He's a big wiener, but manages to save Samus from a trap at one point.

http://i.imgur.com/XFrF2EGl.jpg (http://imgur.com/XFrF2EG) http://i.imgur.com/mLaUj9El.jpg (http://imgur.com/mLaUj9E)

For some reason, I find Mother Brain's attempts to bond with the hatchling to be absolutely hilarious.

http://i.imgur.com/dAiESmul.jpg (http://imgur.com/dAiESmu)

This issue ends with Samus using the Crystal Flash technique to restore her health. Cool!

http://i.imgur.com/Mee1VAwl.jpg (http://imgur.com/Mee1VAw)

Counselor's Corner was always a favorite of mine as a kid. This section still featured photos of the game counselors, but they had long stopped posting the favorite games and the NES achievements of the counselors. It's too bad because I always loved reading about the guy's that beat Zelda six times in a row while wearing a strait jacket or whatever. Did anyone else aspire to be a game counselor as a kid? Also, have there been any attempts to reach out to some of these former counselors and ask about the job? Could be a fascinating read...

http://i.imgur.com/a4xzOt6l.jpg (http://imgur.com/a4xzOt6) http://i.imgur.com/Y5jdGBXl.jpg (http://imgur.com/Y5jdGBX)

Ooo, a Counselor's Corner Extra! Nintendo wasn't above putting in coverage of older games at times. I think they covered the original Mega Man in a late 1992 issue for example. This year, they published walkthroughs of both Crystalis and Destiny of an Emperor, which came in really handy when I rediscovered these games in the late 90's.

http://i.imgur.com/9Kzqhbtl.jpg (http://imgur.com/9Kzqhbt) http://i.imgur.com/OGEdOBYl.jpg (http://imgur.com/OGEdOBY)

Who out there sent scores into Nintendo Power? I never did, but it's still a pretty cool concept, especially since they were giving out Super Power Club stamps(basically, mini-gift certificates for the catalogs they'd send out).

http://i.imgur.com/sUWKvo2l.jpg (http://imgur.com/sUWKvo2) http://i.imgur.com/E3iSvUMl.jpg (http://imgur.com/E3iSvUM)

The Super Game Boy is quite possibly, the best peripheral of all time. There was this kid in my neighborhood, who would always brag about the "superiority" of Sega systems. Even though I preferred Game Boy games, I was incredibly jealous of the Game Gear's color screen. Now, not only could I play my Game Boy games on a big screen TV, but I could play them in (limited) COLOR! I ran this issue over to the neighbor kid's house and started to brag about the awesomeness of Nintendo or whatever. He looked defeated. Ah, life's little victories....

http://i.imgur.com/geKpAqUl.jpg (http://imgur.com/geKpAqU)

NP manages to dedicate four pages to a lame solitaire Game Boy game. The fact that they sold a Solitaire game for 30 bucks back then is mind boggling nowadays.

http://i.imgur.com/FCGKbA2l.jpg (http://imgur.com/FCGKbA2)

A fishing game! Whatever!

http://i.imgur.com/7I4Em4fl.jpg (http://imgur.com/7I4Em4f) http://i.imgur.com/aHDMwNfl.jpg (http://imgur.com/aHDMwNf)

The sole NES game this issue is a port of Bonk's Adventure. I've never played it, mainly because it goes for ridiculous amounts of money nowadays(like most late-era NES games) and I'm too lazy to emulate. It looks pretty good though!

http://i.imgur.com/jLUm6Yyl.jpg (http://imgur.com/jLUm6Yy)

The grand prize for the monthly contest to get to play Barkey's Shut Up and Jam! with Charles Barkley himself. The game itself is a pretty lame NBA Jam wannabe, the most interesting thing about it that it spawned the awesome yet bizarre Barkley's Shut Up and Jam Gaiden.

http://i.imgur.com/igVxF7ul.jpg (http://imgur.com/igVxF7u) http://i.imgur.com/NU8BPbwl.jpg (http://imgur.com/NU8BPbw)

The Top 20 was NP's way of tracking the "hottest" games. I think they got the scores from contest entries(you were asked to enter your 5 favorite games for each system), though I'm sure they inflated the numbers for certain games they wanted to push. The SNES version of Mortal Kombat is #1. Did that many people really like the SNES version of MK? Aside from that, no real shockers on this list. They do use the wrong screen shot for Super Mario Land 2 though.

http://i.imgur.com/X0Ah4uCl.jpg (http://imgur.com/X0Ah4uC)http://i.imgur.com/7ZqeoCXl.jpg (http://imgur.com/7ZqeoCX)

Now playing was the area of the magazine reserved for the critical reviews. Easily the weakest part of the magazine. NP's main interest was in selling games, so you can't really expect them to be overly critical. It's not a very transparent process either, all the scores are lumped together in this big, confusing chart. The scores in the chart seem to be averages from their reviewers. But unlike say, EGM, you don't know who reviewed what or what exactly a person thought about a particular game. I also think lumping graphics and sound into the same category is kinda dumb. Also for some reason, most games gravitate towards somewhere in the 3.0 range in all categories. Not surprisingly, Super Metroid is the big winner this month.

http://i.imgur.com/6SxSrCTl.jpg (http://imgur.com/6SxSrCT)http://i.imgur.com/05FJeVml.jpg (http://imgur.com/05FJeVm)

Pak Watch was where I always turned to first when I got a fresh new issue of NP. Being able to see what was coming out in the future was always more exciting than reading about games you'd already known about for months. This month starts off with Project Reality, which as we all know would become the N64. They do a good job of hyping it up at least. Speaking of disappointments, Super Street Fighter 2 is previewed here. It had an absolutely huge cartridge size - 32 Megs. I think the only SNES game that was bigger was Street Fighter Alpha 2 in 1997, though there may have been bigger Super Famicom games.

ProfessorS
06-15-2014, 01:34 PM
http://i.imgur.com/U3jVjJ2l.jpg (http://imgur.com/U3jVjJ2) http://i.imgur.com/q2gJoEul.jpg (http://imgur.com/q2gJoEu)

Ah, Pak Watch Update, your one stop shop for games that never came out(at least in America, anyway). As far as I know, Soccer Kid, Warrior of Rome III, Socks The Cat Rocks The Hill, Battletech, Demon's Blazon(Demon's Crest maybe?), Fireteam Rogue, Futurezone, Impossible Mission 2025, Juggernauts and Tarzan were never released over here. About Final Fight Guy - I mistakenly thought the game was a "corrected" version of the original Final Fight. I figured it not only had all 3 playable characters, but it added the missing level, restored Poison and Roxy and had added the 2 player mode. Surely by 1994 that was possible right? I was kind of disappointed when I found out it was just the original game with Guy somewhat lazily hacked in.

http://i.imgur.com/9cxSCjRl.jpg (http://imgur.com/9cxSCjR)

Next issue will feature Donkey Kong '94, which just might be the best original Game Boy game of all time. Slam Masters, Spike McFang and Fatal Fury 2 range from solid to awesome titles. Plus a Super Game Boy gallery and NBA Jam codes? Count me in.

http://i.imgur.com/p5Aiuttl.jpg (http://imgur.com/p5Aiutt)

And the back cover was an ad for sports games. Well that does it. I really enjoyed this little nostalgia trip. It made me realize there's few things in life I've ever found more satisfying than finding a new NP in the mail and spending a lazy summer afternoon poring over the magazine.

Octopus Prime
06-15-2014, 05:29 PM
Amazing True Stories of the Octoprime

When I was young, I used a projector and traced that picture of Mother Brain yelling "METROID!" On to some poster board and hung it on my wall. First thing I saw every morning, last thing I saw every night.

Made me the man I am today.

Kishi
06-15-2014, 05:48 PM
I'm not too up to speed with the Metroid backstory, but is this where Samus being raised by the Chozo was established?

It is indeed. And it's convenient that it ended up being adopted by the games, because that comic was about all we had to go on for Metroid "lore" in the eight long years between Super and Prime/Fusion.


Not surprisingly, Super Metroid is the big winner this month.

"Even 100 megabits of Metroid wouldn't be enough." Truer words.


As far as I know, Soccer Kid, Warrior of Rome III, Socks The Cat Rocks The Hill, Battletech, Demon's Blazon(Demon's Crest maybe?), Fireteam Rogue, Futurezone, Impossible Mission 2025, Juggernauts and Tarzan were never released over here.

Soccer Kid apparently got released as The Adventures of Kid Kleets. You're right about Demon's Blazon.


First thing I saw every morning, last thing I saw every night.

This explains everything.

Büge
06-15-2014, 06:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8Um2rwr.png

"What if we built more tubes?"

Mr. Sensible
06-19-2014, 04:15 PM
Look, M.B., you and these little critters go back a-ways, but you are no "Queen of the Metroids." Quit frontin'.

LBD_Nytetrayn
06-22-2014, 01:35 PM
This is sort of an important issue for me. I just received this in the mail the other day and it completes my collection of Nintendo Power issues from 1994(after losing all my old NP issues years ago). Why is this important to me you ask? Well, 1994 is a year and an era I'm particularly fond of in gaming and in my personal life.

I hear you; I feel much the same way about the Castlevania II issue I need to (I think) complete mine after losing a ton of my magazines a few years ago. That was a good time for me (when the issue came out, not when it was thrown away).

Though I think older, NES era issues of Nintendo Power are more fun to read nowadays, I always pick up an issue from 1994 when I'm in the mood for the warm fuzzies.

I hear that. Part of me wishes we were doing Nintendo Force that way, but I guess you have to look forward, not back.

Somewhat disheartening is the people sticking up from the terrible, censored SNES version of Mortal Kombat.

Eh, if you don't care as much about the blood, then the Super NES version was the better of the two.

It was a little sad when they took Nester's face off the awards.

I hear that. I want Nester as a trophy in Super Smash Bros.

Hey! A Super Metroid comic! For the past few years, Nintendo Power had been putting serialized comics in the magazine. Previously in the magazine we've seen Super Mario World, Link to the Past and a (totally awesome) Star Fox comic. The Super Metroid comic is arguably the weakest, mainly due to the fact that it's half the length of the other comics.

I think the reason it was so short was because it wasn't as good as the others. A sad death knell for NP comics, aside from the odd one-shots they'd do here and there...

Lots of stuff, namely Samus's fight with Mother Brain is glossed over. Also, the baby Metroid is killed by this comic's equivalent of Chief Wiggum. I'm not too up to speed with the Metroid backstory, but is this where Samus being raised by the Chozo was established?

I think so. First place I ever saw it, anyway.

This issue ends with Samus using the Crystal Flash technique to restore her health. Cool!

First place I ever saw that, too. Before I even saw it in the game...

Ooo, a Counselor's Corner Extra! Nintendo wasn't above putting in coverage of older games at times. I think they covered the original Mega Man in a late 1992 issue for example.

Yep.

Who out there sent scores into Nintendo Power? I never did, but it's still a pretty cool concept, especially since they were giving out Super Power Club stamps(basically, mini-gift certificates for the catalogs they'd send out).

I wanted to, but my pictures never came out right, and took forever to be developed on my parents' camera.

Now playing was the area of the magazine reserved for the critical reviews. Easily the weakest part of the magazine. NP's main interest was in selling games, so you can't really expect them to be overly critical. It's not a very transparent process either, all the scores are lumped together in this big, confusing chart. The scores in the chart seem to be averages from their reviewers. But unlike say, EGM, you don't know who reviewed what or what exactly a person thought about a particular game. I also think lumping graphics and sound into the same category is kinda dumb. Also for some reason, most games gravitate towards somewhere in the 3.0 range in all categories. Not surprisingly, Super Metroid is the big winner this month.

You clearly don't remember their wrath for Bebe's Kids.

SpoonyBardOL
08-02-2016, 12:31 PM
I thought we had a general Nintendo Power thread, but this was the only one like that I could find, so here we go.

Anyway, the first 145 issues of Nintendo Power (https://archive.org/details/nintendopower&tab=collection) are currently up on archive.org. Dunno if the rest will gradually come or not, but that's quite a haul!

Rascally Badger
08-02-2016, 02:20 PM
That looks like a good way to spend two weeks.

Johnny Unusual
08-02-2016, 05:21 PM
Nintendo Power had some great covers early on. They also had this.

https://ia800205.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/10/items/Nintendo_Power_Issue_020_January_1991/Nintendo_Power_Issue_020_January_1991_jp2.zip&file=Nintendo_Power_Issue_020_January_1991_jp2/Nintendo_Power_Issue_020_January_1991_0000.jp2&scale=2&rotate=0

Octopus Prime
08-02-2016, 05:25 PM
I believe that was the first issue I ever read.

The cover was colourful, and that was important to Wee-Octo

LBD_Nytetrayn
08-03-2016, 04:18 AM
Dang, they didn't get to any of the issues I wrote for. =(

Oh well, maybe in time. Or did they just cut off before the Future stuff?

Johnny Unusual
08-03-2016, 08:57 AM
Dang, they didn't get to any of the issues I wrote for. =(

Oh well, maybe in time. Or did they just cut off before the Future stuff?

What kind of writing did you do for them? Also, I certainly hadn't read it at any point after the 90's, so what was the structure. I can't imagine is was still level maps and such.

Nodal
08-03-2016, 09:26 AM
I believe that was the first issue I ever read.

The cover was colourful, and that was important to Wee-Octo

Don't pretend it isn't anymore!

LBD_Nytetrayn
08-07-2016, 08:52 AM
What kind of writing did you do for them? Also, I certainly hadn't read it at any point after the 90's, so what was the structure. I can't imagine is was still level maps and such.

I did reviews of downloadable games. The meat of the magazine was news, previews, reviews, interviews, that sort of thing. Much like what Nintendo Force has now. But no, not so much maps and such.

They did break some news, like Mega Man 9 being real, for instance. One of the editors, Chris Hoffman (who I worked under) was also the only journalist to play Mega Man Legends 3.