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Falselogic
05-28-2009, 10:24 AM
I can't be the only person on the forums who plays with tiny metal soldiers... I was going to title the thread simply Warhammer 40k, but then thought better of it. I'm sure there are plenty of great games out there that I'm unaware of...

So let this thread be about all the tabletop wargaming that you guys participate in and enjoy. If you want we can even get into tacticshammering though that can be contentious... Anyway, I currently play 40k, BFG, and am building a Hordes force...

I've not had the time to sit down and get to know 40k 5th edition as much as I'd like... never became familiar with 4th and still find myself thinking in terms of 3rd... This is not good for my game... Especially since my army lists are still essentially 3rd edition lists. If there are players out therew what are your thoughts on 5th? If you're a Privateer Press player are you looking forward to their move to codexes? I'm torn on it as only having to buy one book was nice...

Anyway, make the thread your own. I'm also excited about the rumors of a new Space Hulk as I see it as a great way to get people into the hobby, which is the biggest problem I have, finding people to play with.

Dadgum Roi
05-28-2009, 10:32 AM
I play tabletop wargames, but of the cardboard chit variety, not minis.

Falselogic
05-28-2009, 10:37 AM
I play tabletop wargames, but of the cardboard chit variety, not minis.

Oh? Please explain! I'm unfamiliar with that, though I believe for a while there was a ship game like that, and I believe there is a star wars one too?

Sarcasmorator
05-28-2009, 10:43 AM
I don't have the time or patience for creating armies and terrain out of unpainted kits, but I've been having fun with a modest HeroScape (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/11170) collection. Really nice pre-painted minis, easily buildable battledfields and a solid rule set. There are a ton of expansions that are lately going into reprints, so I've been trying to decide how much I'm willing to spend on it.

I think Grant is talkin' 'bout games like this (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/147526).

Dadgum Roi
05-28-2009, 10:44 AM
I think Grant is talkin' 'bout games like this (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/147526).

Yep, although I'm not into ASL- that's basically a lifestyle game.

Sarcasmorator
05-28-2009, 10:46 AM
Well, I figured that one would get the point across.

Falselogic
05-28-2009, 10:50 AM
ASL looks like some advanced wargamery! really abstract as well. Funny, I think I enjoy the hobby aspect of the game (building, painting, etc) just as much or a little more than playing...

I'm not much into historical either...

Alixsar
05-28-2009, 10:53 AM
I just wrote a really long post detailing the history of why I think tabletop games are silly. But there's no point. I can sum it all up in one sentence:

Tabletop games are for nerds.

Seriously. I've met some truly terrifying people via tabletop games. This is not a road anyone should want to travel. Ever.

Dadgum Roi
05-28-2009, 10:53 AM
ASL looks like some advanced wargamery! really abstract as well.

ASL is the polar opposite of abstract. The rulebook comes in a three ring binder and has special cases for everything.

Falselogic
05-28-2009, 10:57 AM
I just wrote a really long post detailing the history of why I think tabletop games are silly. But there's no point. I can sum it all up in one sentence:

Tabletop games are for nerds.

Seriously. I've met some truly terrifying people via tabletop games. This is not a road anyone should want to travel. Ever.

That just isnt't true! if you enjoy RTS or TBS you can and most likely will enjoy Tabletop wargaming. You meet weirdos in every field. that doesn't mean everyone who plays is a socially stunted, mouth breathing ,400 pd ass-hat, though those people exist. They exist everywhere though in every field - look at Rush Limbaugh...

Falselogic
05-28-2009, 10:58 AM
ASL is the polar opposite of abstract. The rulebook comes in a three ring binder and has special cases for everything.

visually abstract, I meant. I think I prefer less rules memorizing books full of small details and rules-lawyering doesn't sound fun to me.

But Grant what game do you play?

Dadgum Roi
05-28-2009, 11:03 AM
visually abstract, I meant. I think I prefer less rules memorizing books full of small details and rules-lawyering doesn't sound fun to me.

But Grant what game do you play?

Right now: 2 de Mayo, Commands and Colors: Ancients, Twilight Struggle. I'm mostly an historical gamer, and we tend to focus on a period or subject rather than specific games. I like most anything Latin American, insurgency stuff, and Renaissance/pike and shot era.

Neuroshima Hex is the best non-historical I've played recently. It's focused on combat, so it might appeal if you're into Warhammer.

Sarcasmorator
05-28-2009, 11:08 AM
Neuroshima Hex is the best non-historical I've played recently.

I've been thinking about that one, but wasn't sure what I thought of it after trying the online version.

Traumadore
05-28-2009, 11:08 AM
Yeah, warhammer 40k and other miniatures games tend to be abstracted and almost arcade-like compared to the games Grant likes, to put it in videogame terms. I haven't had much experience with them, but I do like them.

For 40k I have 2750 points of Tau, and about 1350 points of Orks. I have a ton of Mechwarrior and D&D miniatures as well. I pretty much love miniatures games. It's taken me about 5 years to collect all the Warhammer 40k stuff, and I've only played maybe 30-40 games in the timespan, so I started right at the end of 3rd edition, played mostly in 4th, then got back into it last winter with 5th edition when the Darkreach box came out.

It's a really nice deal, considering I play orks and my friend has space marines, it's like $300 worth of models normally, for $60, with a soft cover rulebook. You could also probly just get the roolbook off ebay or a bits site for 15 bucks too. Much better than the $50 dollar rulebook, though you miss out on the fun hobby and fiction sections.

Also, Alixsar, why even bother sating anything at all. Yes, wargamers are nerds. They are a hybrid of lonely train-set man, and overenthusiastic RPG kid. It's ok, we have fun.

Dadgum Roi
05-28-2009, 11:24 AM
I've been thinking about that one, but wasn't sure what I thought of it after trying the online version.

It's a really good late night beer-and-chuckles game. Everyone is getting to do stuff all the time, shit is getting blowed up real good all the time, laughs will be had by all.

Alixsar
05-28-2009, 11:29 AM
That just isnt't true! if you enjoy RTS or TBS you can and most likely will enjoy Tabletop wargaming. You meet weirdos in every field. that doesn't mean everyone who plays is a socially stunted, mouth breathing ,400 pd ass-hat, though those people exist. They exist everywhere though in every field - look at Rush Limbaugh...

A skinny guy pulled a knife on me because I asked if I could look at one of his pieces.

Yes, it's true that there are weirdos in all fields. I don't think all tabletop gamers are as sociopathic as this guy was. But the rest I've met have all had other serious faults. I'm sure that there are legitimately decent human beings who play tabletop games out there (I'm sure they're in this very thread, given that TT people are good people), but I have yet to meet one in person. As such, it is my professional opinion that tabletop games should be avoided at all costs.

There are other, more logical reasons why I feel tabletop gaming is silly (again, the cost in time and money is ludicrously high)...but I feel that this reason is more important. There's a lot of weirdo tabletop players out there, and even if you're not one of them, you're bound to run into them if you play a lot. I don't think it's worth it.

sraymonds
05-28-2009, 11:53 AM
Weirdness

Don't condemn everyone just on the few that you met. Everyone's shit smells, even yours.

Alixsar
05-28-2009, 12:01 PM
Don't condemn everyone just on the few that you met.

I'm not. What I am saying is that, in my experience, I have met some truly fucking weird individuals thanks to tabletop games. I don't know how indicative of tabletop gamers as a whole my experience is, but I do know that it happened and that I would recommend that everyone stay away. That's all.

Sarcasmorator
05-28-2009, 12:18 PM
This is an argument that can only be settled by TABLETOP WARGAMERY

Traumadore
05-28-2009, 12:19 PM
Dang, that is an exceptional experience. The shops around here have a few different crowds, but the worst I've ever seen are the occasional bad sport, or a guy with unpainted models, whom I wouldn't bother playing.

I think most players have a small group of 3-4 actual friends they play with, and have a good time. I myself don't really venture out to play strangers, as it's almost always less fun. I can see where you're coming from on that front.

As for the expense, it's really not more expensive than someone who plays video games. For the cost of console alone with no games at all, you could get a healthy force for almost any miniatures game, and you would spend a good deal of time assembling and painting them up to your satisfaction.

See all that time is actually a valued part of the hobby for many people. It's incredibley focusing and relaxing, and it really multiplies the enjoyment you have when you play a game with your models. That's one of the reasons I think everyone should play a painted army, on a table with plenty of great terrain. At that point nobody cares about winning or losing, it's just a joy to see everything on the table. That's ideal.

Falselogic
05-28-2009, 12:29 PM
SMARTNESS

It really is a blast to play a game on a good table with painted armies. I've even enjoyed losing when playing such games. Playing both video games and tabletop games I think the money & time sink is the same. Just spent different ways.

It might be appropriate to talk about the 3 types of people who play war games: Timmy, Johnny, and Spike. If you know M:tG you already know these three. If not, they are all psychological profiles that attempt to explain "What does a player want when they play?", "What are their reasons for playing?", and "What makes them happy?". They were created by the makers of Magic The Gathering to help them better design the game for all their players, and so the profiles apply to that game best, or at least are explained best in terms of Magic. However, I've found they apply quite well to most games.

"Timmy wants to experience something. Timmy plays because he enjoys the feeling he gets when he plays. What that feeling is will vary from Timmy to Timmy, but what all Timmies have in common is that they enjoy the visceral experience of playing." Give Timmy a good game by having fun!

"Johnny wants to express something. To Johnny, gaming is an opportunity to show the world something about himself, be it how creative he is or
how clever he is or how offbeat he is. As such, Johnny is very focused on the customizability of the game." Give Johnny a good game by asking about his army! Johnny is going to try to do something different than most players, usually it will be their list, but it could be something else. All you have to do is figure out what it is, ask them about it so they know you noticed, and listen.

"Spikes plays to prove something, primarily to prove how good he is. You see, Spike sees the game as a mental challenge by which he can define and demonstrate his abilities. Spike gets his greatest joy from winning because his motivation is using the game to show what he is capable of."

I'm a Timmy/Johnny. I know a lot of Spikes and they usually suck when it comes to wargaming as they're not trying to play a game but rather crush opponents, also their armies usually aren't assembled or painted...

shivam
05-28-2009, 12:30 PM
I just wrote a really long post detailing the history of why I think tabletop games are silly. But there's no point. I can sum it all up in one sentence:

Tabletop games are for nerds.

Seriously. I've met some truly terrifying people via tabletop games. This is not a road anyone should want to travel. Ever.

you're not allowed in my house again. I'm dead fucking serious.

sraymonds
05-28-2009, 12:30 PM
This is an argument that can only be settled by TABLETOP WARGAMERY

Then can we use my Heroclix?

EDIT: OH SNAP

Traumadore
05-28-2009, 12:59 PM
I'll play with your heroclix.

Pombar
05-28-2009, 01:07 PM
I did fantasy Warhammer back in Primary school. It was fun, but I only really have the money for one cash-sucking hobby these days. My roommate in China was heavily into both fantasy and 40K, had brought about 12 of the 40K books with him, and spent most of his time there trying to play the Warhammer MMO. Nice guy, though when he wasn't punching me in the face. No, wait, not such a nice guy

Falselogic
05-28-2009, 01:22 PM
Nice guy, though when he wasn't punching me in the face. No, wait, not such a nice guy

Go ahead and feed Alixsar's prejudices

Cyrael
05-28-2009, 01:25 PM
I get the urge to play some variant of Warhammer about once every 14 months or so. I'll pick up a rulebook, codex and ~$50 worth of mini's. I love both of their settings quite a lot. There just isn't anyone really enjoyable to play with out here in Utah. So I usually take all that enthusiasm I build up and re-direct it to my D&D group.

Falselogic
05-28-2009, 01:27 PM
Finding a decent stable of people to play with has always been a problem for me as well. That coupled with busy schedules makes finding a night to get people toether to play is a hassle...

Cyrael
05-28-2009, 01:34 PM
Where we live in Utah most people in our age demographic are in one of the two big universities. Because of that, most of them either move away in the summer or are only around for a year or so.

The wife and I found a great core group for D&D a few years back, and really haven't been able to get anyone long term since!

nunix
05-28-2009, 02:06 PM
I'm pretty sure Grant meant to reply "tabletop is dumb" in response to Alixsar. I guess that's what he does now! He must've forgotten this time.

Anyway:

I never got into WAR or Chainmail or anything else. I did buy some Confrontation minis, because they are unfuckingbelievably fantastic sculpts, but never used them for the actual skirmish game. Unfortunately, looking at the website now, I don't think you can get the original unpainted sculpts anymore, which is too bad.

It's BattleTech for me, suckas. Free Worlds League forever! Generally nothing later than 3050 for me, though; as with every product that FASA put out, metaplot ruined BT so bad. =/

If y'all are down for megamek sometime (BT net-battle program) lemme know.

Dadgum Roi
05-28-2009, 03:12 PM
I'm pretty sure Grant meant to reply "tabletop is dumb" in response to Alixsar. I guess that's what he does now! He must've forgotten this time.


Non sequiturs are dumb.

Sarcasmorator
05-28-2009, 03:19 PM
Non sequiturs are space station.

Alixsar
05-28-2009, 03:35 PM
you're not allowed in my house again. I'm dead fucking serious.

Aww c'mon man.

shivam
05-28-2009, 04:51 PM
no, dude. you can make fun of my music all you want, but smearing shit over one of the most positive influences in my life? fuck you, man.

Alixsar
05-28-2009, 05:07 PM
I thought D&D was the most positive influence in your life...?

I dunno. Again, all I'm saying is that I've had nothing but bad experiences with tabletop games, and if you're just getting into it, you might too. That's it. I've had some REALLY bad experiences with some truly strange and bizarre individuals. I was being facetious earlier in the thread, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone. That's not what I was intending to do.

Sanagi
05-28-2009, 05:10 PM
Geek bigotry is the most absurd and arbitrary kind of bigotry. Which makes it funny.

Pombar
05-28-2009, 05:33 PM
To be fair to Alixsar, I did find that even just walking into a Games Workshop or something was asking to be mocked and abused by elitist obsessive douchebags. But then, I myself partook in the hobby for a while, so I've got nothing against wargames themselves. Just another passtime to me, among many I've given a whirl and enjoyed.

But I can't say too many good things about what I've seen and heard to be the general fanbase, so perhaps Alixsar's sentiment in warning people is a good one, if not put forward very well.

Falselogic
05-28-2009, 06:31 PM
Geek bigotry is the most absurd and arbitrary kind of bigotry. Which makes it funny.

seriously, geeks/nerds/dorks have a hard enough time as it is without us denigrating and mocking our own... I can't think of anything mor stupid then pushing people away from the things you love? What kind of f*cked up logic is that?

Ben1842
05-28-2009, 07:09 PM
As for the expense, it's really not more expensive than someone who plays video games. For the cost of console alone with no games at all, you could get a healthy force for almost any miniatures game, and you would spend a good deal of time assembling and painting them up to your satisfaction.


The problem is I already play Video Games so I can't afford both.

I used to love a game called Hero Quest when I was younger, but I'm pretty sure that's kinda the baby version of the type of games you are talking about. lol

nunix
05-28-2009, 07:41 PM
I used to love a game called Hero Quest when I was younger, but I'm pretty sure that's kinda the baby version of the type of games you are talking about. lol

I dunno about baby games. The more modern version of that would be something like this, maybe. (http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite.asp?eidm=5&enmi=Descent:%20Journeys%20in%20the%20Dark)

Falselogic
05-28-2009, 07:52 PM
I used to love a game called Hero Quest when I was younger, but I'm pretty sure that's kinda the baby version of the type of games you are talking about. lol

HeroQuest is what got me into tabletop wargaming! My brother and I got it for Christmas when I was still a wee lad. HeroQuest was a collaboration (sp?) between Milton Bradley and Games Workshop. It was a small introduction yes. In every box though there was a glossy little sheet of paper with pictures of Games Workshops games (Warhammer Fantasy Battle (HWFB) & Warhammer 40,000 (WH40k)). How I lusted over those models and those games... But I had no money (I was 10 or something) and no place to buy them anyway. It wasn't until after I graduated from highschool and in community college that where I live got a hobby shop and I had money that I got into the game. Remembering HeroQuest I bought the rulebook for 40k and a bunch of Space Marines... I haven't looked back.

HeroQuest to this day is a fun little game to play, more like DnD light... the second Milton Bradley/Games Workshop collaboration, Battle Masters was closer to WHFB and tabletop gaming, even having to play on a hexgrid!

Traumadore
05-28-2009, 09:47 PM
Battlemasters was incredible. I also played Heroquest a ton back in the day before I knew what an RPG even was. I have been a huge Descent fan ever since it came out, needless to say.

We don't have a Games Workshop store in the Twin Cities, probably because the niche is already well covered by other retailers, and that's probably a good thing. They have sales more often, and are less specialised/elitist about the particular hobby. I think there is a benefit to having the guys at the next table over playing Magic or D&D, theres alot of diversity. I am going to make it a point of going out for games more often, so i'll be ordering a nice carrying case for the summer.

What I think about 5th edition 40k:
I like it. They placed emphasis on Troops units. Troops win games now. Two of the three standard missions are objective-based, and only Troops can score objectives. Also the new line-of-sight/cover rules give weak models more staying power. The net result is that the min/maxed teams that used to be so prevalent, with only the two mandatory Troops and heavily emphasised Heavy Support, Elite, and HQ, are not competitive. Some people still play that style and just try to wipe you from the board, but since the games are only 5-7 turns, you can make it very hard for them with proper use of cover.

All in all, it just makes more sense, and they simplified vehicle damage, some of the universal special rules, morale in assaults, and they finally included statlines for all models and weapons in the back of the core rulebook.

Sarcasmorator
05-28-2009, 10:44 PM
God, we had HeroQuest and Battlemasters. I sooooo wish I'd held onto them but I was a kid and what did I know?

Wolfgang
05-29-2009, 06:11 AM
I used to be so into 40K when I was in high school, it wasn't even funny. I had a massive Ork army with a ton of custom-built vehicles and mechs I made of old toys and model kits, and a bunch of scenery made from old plastic containers. Shit was elaborate. But I only had like two friends who played it during the entire time I was into the hobby, and have no friends now who would even be slightly interested in playing.

I had a pretty good Heroclix collection going for a while, too, but again had no friends who were actually into it, and only played an small handful of times against people at hobby shops who were the insane psycho condescending ubernerd types. How can you look down on someone for not having as extensive collection as you when you, yourself, don't bathe daily? That's a rhetorical question, the answer is "because that's all you are as a human, is your miniature collection".

I would love to have a group of people to play a tabletop game with around here, who aren't frightening/exasperating to be around.

gogglezombie
05-29-2009, 07:01 AM
I guess contrary to alot of other people I have had some positive experiences. I have been playing on and off since ~1996(2-3 year breaks here and there) but have mostly with GW systems. These days I stick mostly to fantasy with a small group of friends but I have dabled in 40k, warmachine/hordes and Flames of war. I'd like to play other things but people tend to focus on what they know if theres already a workshop in town.

I would love to have a group of people to play a tabletop game with around here, who aren't frightening/exasperating to be around.

Have you considerd trying a tournament once or twice? Perhaps ask around your local stockist or gw, they sometimes even run small jobs for learners. Chances are if theyre there on the day they have similar interests to you. I've met some people I look up from time to time for a game. Even if you aren't into comp it might be worth a thought.

Falselogic
06-01-2009, 12:28 PM
I've never play in a tournament, mostly because I find the people who play in them more interested in crushing their opponent than playing a game that tells a story... This could be because that is what is popular in my area, I don't know. I do know that the organizer doesn't require models to be painted and allows proxies which attracts the worst kind of 40k players, as far as I'm concerned.

Falselogic
11-20-2009, 03:25 PM
Im bumping the thread because Im wondering what effect if any the recession is having on your hobby (or desire to take said hobby up?) People are dropping like flies locally and trying to dump their armies on people still playing or the internet...

It's not a cheap hobby to start but now might be a good time to pick up someone just trying to make rent with a useless army on their hands. Sad thing is the sellers will never make anything close to what the spent on them

Dadgum Roi
11-20-2009, 05:16 PM
I'm not into minis, but I've been suffering from major wargaming ennui. Part of it has been the usual summer doldrums and my gaming buddy being out of town, but I've just been tired and worn down, no new games have interested me, and I've been playing video games instead.

Falselogic
11-21-2009, 08:25 AM
I haven't been able to play much either (not counting Space Hulk) like I said people are just dumping their armies.. Which is sad I already have a hard enough time finding people to play with locally...

I could drive into Sacramento but its a hassle...

Red Hedgehog
11-22-2009, 08:00 PM
I'm not into minis, but I've been suffering from major wargaming ennui. Part of it has been the usual summer doldrums and my gaming buddy being out of town, but I've just been tired and worn down, no new games have interested me, and I've been playing video games instead.

Summer doldrums in November? Are you secretly living in the southern hemisphere?

Dadgum Roi
11-22-2009, 10:07 PM
Summer doldrums in November? Are you secretly living in the southern hemisphere?

It does stay pretty hot here well into November. I was running the A/C earlier in the week. I don't really consider summer to be over until I'm done with mowing the lawn.

But really what I meant was that I've basically been sick constantly since late September, which is usually when we get the first sign of a chill in the air down here, and that's after taking the summer off as usual because it's hot and I don't want to do thinkin' stuff.

Traumadore
11-23-2009, 07:54 AM
Yeah, I should pick up some new models if I see some cheap deals. I have one model kit unassembled, and I wasn't going to buy anymore until everything I had was painted and based. I'm really close to that goal, and it's kind of a big deal!

I don't think I would buy painted models however, but there are plenty of people who sell lots of assembled and unpainted models that I wouldn't mind getting cheap. 2750 points of Tau may not be enough.

Red Hedgehog
11-23-2009, 09:12 AM
It does stay pretty hot here well into November. I was running the A/C earlier in the week. I don't really consider summer to be over until I'm done with mowing the lawn.

But really what I meant was that I've basically been sick constantly since late September, which is usually when we get the first sign of a chill in the air down here, and that's after taking the summer off as usual because it's hot and I don't want to do thinkin' stuff.

The South really is like a whole 'nother country.

Falselogic
11-18-2010, 04:50 PM
So with the release of the Dark Eldar codex and new models I can't be the only one feeling the lust to start yet another army!

In other wargame news how do people feel about Privateer Press' transition to plastic model and army codexes?

Once again, the new DE models are beautiful. Much like the Dark Elf figures that came out last year for WH...

Lucas
11-18-2010, 05:10 PM
Privateer Press' transition to plastic model and army codexes?

Really? Maybe I'll finally be able to buy an army. Oh wait, Warhammer 40K is plastic and I can't afford that.

Codexes sound good to me, as an outsider. Half the point of a minis game to me is the fluff, and more of it without trying to be a novel is a good thing. I don't expect it would take the place of the cards, and it might be too expensive for a person to pick up more than one, but it would make a good supplement for a true devotee of one's faction.

I've been reading the Hordes Evolution manual I got for real cheap at a yard sale the past few days (I know it's outdated by now, don't bother me) and it's really making me want to play. I wish I could afford to buy the Everblight army my friend's been trying to get rid of....

kaisel
11-18-2010, 05:33 PM
One of these days I want to actually buy a set of Warmachine/Hordes minis and try to get that started with my gaming group, but at the moment we're settling on playing Necromunda (previously Mordheim) with the large stash of D&D/Star Wars minis that we have, with lego terrain.

I really wish minis weren't quite so expensive, especially because I'm convinced I'll end up botching a paint job.

Destil
11-18-2010, 05:45 PM
So with the release of the Dark Eldar codex and new models I can't be the only one feeling the lust to start yet another army!

What? Really? I've go a few thousand points of dark-eldar that have been gathering dust for years....

Büge
11-18-2010, 06:01 PM
I'm holding out for Sisters of Battle.

Comb Stranger
11-18-2010, 06:33 PM
I'm holding out for Sisters of Battle.

...You know they came out six years ago, right?

Falselogic
11-18-2010, 06:39 PM
I really wish minis weren't quite so expensive, especially because I'm convinced I'll end up botching a paint job.

You know you can strip them of paint and repaint them right?


What? Really? I've go a few thousand points of dark-eldar that have been gathering dust for years....

Really! But once you've seen the new models you'll want to throw your old ones away.

Destil
11-18-2010, 07:18 PM
Really! But once you've seen the new models you'll want to throw your old ones away.

Meat and potatos of the army is the 6 skimmers, 100 warriors and a dozen incubi, all of which have pretty decent models. If I can pick up new commanders/elites/wych models that don't suck....

Did they make mandrakes or scourge worthwhile?

Falselogic
11-18-2010, 08:08 PM
Meat and potatos of the army is the 6 skimmers, 100 warriors and a dozen incubi, all of which have pretty decent models. If I can pick up new commanders/elites/wych models that don't suck....

Did they make mandrakes or scourge worthwhile?

Old Incubi:
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad289/umbragradius/TT/oldincubi.jpg

New Incubi:
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad289/umbragradius/TT/newincubi.jpg

New Wyches:
http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad289/umbragradius/TT/newwyches.jpg

I haven't had a lot of time to sit down with the codex, but according to a site I trust (http://yesthetruthhurts.com/) everything in the codex is solid including the mandrakes (also have bitching new models) and the scourge as well as new things like a Talos alternative and some of the Haemuncluaes (sp?) creations

Büge
11-19-2010, 09:46 AM
...You know they came out six years ago, right?

And are no longer available on the GW store.

Destil
11-19-2010, 09:55 AM
The old Incubi (especially the ones that came with Vect who everyone uses as a master) are my favorite models in the army. New ones don't look bad, but they don't say "Corrupted Striking Scorpion" as strongly to me, and that's a shame...

Traumadore
11-19-2010, 10:50 AM
And are no longer available on the GW store.

Well judging by the dark eldar you'll only have to wait about 5 years between when you army is pulled off the shelf to when it's reintroduced.

Also that hilarious recent "update" to the codex was great. My brother got all excited when he saw a new PDF for witchhunters on the website, and it turns out it's just the old codex with everything pertaining to allies stripped out of it. You're amazing sometimes, GW.

Büge
11-19-2010, 12:56 PM
Scuttlebutt has it that the Sororitas are going to be included in the rumored "Inquisition" army, which probably won't come out until next year.

Comb Stranger
11-20-2010, 12:05 PM
So this page here selling them (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/landingArmy.jsp?catId=cat440180a&rootCatGameStyle=) isn't actually selling them?

Büge
11-20-2010, 12:42 PM
Ah, good point. And yet something's still troubling me... What was it?

Three figures for $20.75

Oh yes, that.

Comb Stranger
11-20-2010, 01:33 PM
Yeeeeeah, that's never gonna change. I got in years ago when troop boxes were $25 instead of $35, and you could get them from a third-party retailer at a 20% discount. If you're really set on starting at some point, e-Bay is your best friend. You can usually get them pre-painted, too, which is better than naked pewter until you can get the time and motivation to paint them all yourself.

pence
11-20-2010, 01:55 PM
Guess why my 1000~ points of orks never had grots! It's because of the price of pewter in China.

Lucas
11-20-2010, 05:31 PM
So I actually saw some of the plastic Warmachine models today. It's an interesting idea, a box of parts that can be used to make one of several different models depending on their configuration. They still cost the same, but for the price of one model and some rare earth magnets to hold the pieces in place non-permanently, you basically get three. As long as you aren't too eager to use them all at the same time, of course. I wonder if that's what Privateer had in mind when they came up with the idea?

Of course, the entire idea only works for factions that have warjacks with a unified look (hello Cygnar!) and it'll probably be impossible for Hordes models. Such a shame.

Falselogic
11-20-2010, 08:12 PM
So I actually saw some of the plastic Warmachine models today. It's an interesting idea, a box of parts that can be used to make one of several different models depending on their configuration. They still cost the same, but for the price of one model and some rare earth magnets to hold the pieces in place non-permanently, you basically get three. As long as you aren't too eager to use them all at the same time, of course. I wonder if that's what Privateer had in mind when they came up with the idea?

Of course, the entire idea only works for factions that have warjacks with a unified look (hello Cygnar!) and it'll probably be impossible for Hordes models. Such a shame.

It's a really nice idea and is excellent for the few people who are still playing the game small. But with the last few expansions Warmachines and Hordes seems to be moving away from a squad based game to an army one. What with calvary and heavy support weapon models being introduced...

Comb Stranger
11-21-2010, 12:54 PM
At least nothing they put out will be as ridiculous as the Manta.

http://i4.tinypic.com/286tnbo.jpg

Falselogic
11-21-2010, 01:55 PM
At least nothing they put out will be as ridiculous as the Manta.

http://i4.tinypic.com/286tnbo.jpg

please tell me that isn't you with that model...

Lucas
11-21-2010, 02:51 PM
Whoever it is, they look confused and dismayed at their possession of that model.

pence
11-21-2010, 02:58 PM
please tell me that isn't you with that model...

Hair's the correct color, but that's no Comb Stranger.

Comb Stranger
11-21-2010, 09:48 PM
No, that's not me.

I scratch built my superheavy star destroyer.

Googleshng
11-22-2010, 01:38 AM
OK. So. It actually DOES open up, able to house 40 or so standard scale little tau dudes in it...

... in the form of custom-sculpted sitting-in-chairs minis. Wow. That was ALMOST a conceivable thin justification for it.

Destil
11-22-2010, 09:53 AM
Are the guns detachable drones like the other Tau models?

Falselogic
11-22-2010, 10:13 AM
OK. So. It actually DOES open up, able to house 40 or so standard scale little tau dudes in it...

... in the form of custom-sculpted sitting-in-chairs minis. Wow. That was ALMOST a conceivable thin justification for it.

no its not. There is no way to ever justify buying that thing. Especially because its resin and if someone bumps it, it will fall apart.

Comb Stranger
11-22-2010, 01:42 PM
Are the guns detachable drones like the other Tau models?

The burst cannons all over it are drone-controlled longbarrelled burst cannon turrets. They don't detach, but there is sixteen of them. Along with the ion batteries and missile pods, it fires 68 shots, plus two heavy railgun blasts, plus its seeker missile batteries. Every round. And it has ten structure points and an invulnerable forcefield. It is laserdeath incarnate, and can deploy an entire 2000-point mechanized army in a single round, right on the objective.

Traumadore
11-22-2010, 02:38 PM
Whoever it is, they look confused and dismayed at their possession of that model.

Maybe because he just realized he could have bought two or three armies worth of regular models instead, or an enormous television, or taken a girl out on several dozen dates. He, or someone he knew, just made a bad life choice.

benjibot
11-22-2010, 06:27 PM
but for the price of one model and some rare earth magnets to hold the pieces in place non-permanently, you basically get three.

They're held together with magnets?! That's the coolest thing!

My coworker is heavy into Warmachine. It sounds kind of nifty, but when she gets started talking about it she starts going into the very nitty gritty of the rules with no explanation and I just sort of nod and occasionally say something like "I think the zombies are pretty cool looking."

To which she always says, "You mean the ____?" Where ____ is the actual name of the thing I can't seem to keep in my head.

I always wanted to play tabletop games when I was a kid. I had one or two of the GW collaborations released to general toy stores. I know one of them had a huge plastic mat.

The shop in which I play Magic is starting to get into 40k and some of the Privateer stuff. One day, perhaps.

I feel this is relevant to this thread:

http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/1057932597_AfcA4-L.jpg

Comb Stranger
11-22-2010, 07:16 PM
They're held together with magnets?! That's the coolest thing!

They're not, by default. It's a common trick hobbyists use for models whose only appreciable difference is their mounted weapons. It's not much harder than gluing them, and you can swap things out indefinitely.

Lucas
11-22-2010, 07:38 PM
Yeah, what Comb Stranger said. It's not normally done with Warmachine/Hordes since they use pewter models which have pretty much no customization beyond their paint job, which means both that the parts are too heavy to use the magnets and that there's no point to doing so. With these new plastic models Privateer's putting out for Warmachine, however, the magnetizing thing can be used.

My coworker is heavy into Warmachine. It sounds kind of nifty, but when she gets started talking about it she starts going into the very nitty gritty of the rules with no explanation and I just sort of nod and occasionally say something like "I think the zombies are pretty cool looking."

To which she always says, "You mean the ____?" Where ____ is the actual name of the thing I can't seem to keep in my head.

The Cryx, I'm guessing. They have normal zombies and their warjacks (the giant robot units) are made out of dead bodies. They were the first Warmachine army I ever played and I couldn't remember their name for years afterward myself (note that I've actually played exactly one game of Warmachine and one of Hordes, I just wish I could play more often).

And yeah, that's not a good way to get someone into the game. The rules are of standard or even light complexity for a tabletop minis game (so still plenty of nitty gritty) but they really require context to make them interesting, even if that context is just sitting you down in front of an army and going "This is your giant robot. You'll notice one arm is a ball-and-chain cannon. Here's how you can fire it halfway across the table at my giant werewolf: (rules rules rules)."

Getting straight into the rules of any minis game is probably an awful way to get someone into the hobby if they don't already like tabletop wargames, come to think of it.

Comb Stranger
11-22-2010, 08:14 PM
I skimmed the rulebook and saw that there were rules for suplexing another steambot through a brick wall.

Then I remembered that I had no money, and I was sad.

pence
11-22-2010, 09:20 PM
More importantly, it seems to be compatible with the game that has this mini (http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery):

http://i55.tinypic.com/2w3tmdj.png

Comb Stranger
11-22-2010, 09:55 PM
The luchadile.

Lucas
11-23-2010, 12:19 AM
More importantly, it seems to be compatible with the game that has this mini (http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery)

Yeah, Warmachine and Hordes, despite slight differences in aesthetics (one is giant steambots and the other is giant monsters) and mechanics (resource management vs. risk management), are completely compatible.

Büge
11-23-2010, 06:10 AM
More importantly, it seems to be compatible with the game that has this mini (http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery):


I was always partial to the voodoo crocodile, (http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/minions/solos/wrongeye-snapjaw) myself.

benjibot
11-23-2010, 09:15 AM
They're not, by default. It's a common trick hobbyists use for models whose only appreciable difference is their mounted weapons. It's not much harder than gluing them, and you can swap things out indefinitely.

Ooh. Well then sign me up for plastic minis then I guess because that technique sounds like it would be almost as much fun as playing the game to me. It appeals to my love of LEGO and such.

Comb Stranger
11-23-2010, 09:22 AM
Ooh. Well then sign me up for plastic minis then I guess because that technique sounds like it would be almost as much fun as playing the game to me. It appeals to my love of LEGO and such.

If you're getting into 40k, Tau are the most lego-friendly. They use a lot of Mechwarrior-esque battlesuits with bolted-on weapons, fairly large for the scale, whos configuration tends to change based on the mission. Other armies tend to be too small and fiddly to make extensive use of it, or simply have one or two weapons that don't really get changed around.

Destil
11-23-2010, 03:01 PM
I've seen some decent work done giving various Eldar models interchangeable weapons (War Walker, Wraithlord and Wave Serpent primarily), but it involved all sorts of crazy building custom joints and such.

Example. (http://www.paintingclinic.com/operations/eldarproject/warwalker.htm)

Traumadore
11-23-2010, 03:52 PM
It's worth noting that Eldar now have plastic kits for war walkers and fire prism tanks, which make them much more suitable for adding changeable weapons.

I have a lot of Tau (though only few battlesuits) and I never bothered with magnets. I just have some tacky stuff that keeps my tank's main guns on and such. As for the battlesuits, theres some pretty standard configurations that will server you well across the board which makes magnetizing and painting a ton of weapons for every one kind of uneccessary. You can't go wrong with Plasma Rifle/Missile Pod, Plasma Rifle/Fusion, and Ion Blaster/Airfrag Projector. I'm also a fan of twinlinked missile pods with a target lock.

Comb Stranger
11-23-2010, 04:17 PM
I occasionally bring linked flamers, but I run Farsight. Seeing an entire waagh disentegrate to a single Tau unit is a beautiful thing.

Pigu
01-27-2011, 01:18 PM
I started up Warmachine by picking up the Khador battle box last Saturday. There is a wargame focused hobby shop down the street from me that has a very large group of players who were very helpful at the store helping me pick stuff out. So far I have all the models put together/primed and one warjack almost completely painted. I am still deciding if I want to add paint scratches and rust to it but up to this point I have spent about 6 hours on the paint.

I am really digging the ruleset and the fast play style to 40K and Fantasy, and it seems I can keep my model count pretty darn low in normal sized games. Also getting to play steampunk soviets is rad.

Will play my first small games friday and pick up a unit of snipers to paint for the next week. A wargame I will actually get to play every week? NONSENSE!

Nicholai
01-27-2011, 01:46 PM
A good number of my friends all started playing Warmachine recently and I was the lone holdout. It isn't that I have anything against miniatures, but I just have no interest in painting and such. If these friends were more super-heroically inclined I would have tried to get them into Heroclix, but I knew that was going to be a no-sale due to the subject matter. I would have gladly given that a shot though since I wouldn't have had to paint anything.

Ruik
01-27-2011, 04:07 PM
There are Mechwarrior minis in the Heroclix style...

Pigu
01-30-2011, 05:50 PM
I went to the wargaming shop Friday and had a great time! The guys up there for Warmachine/Hordes were super nice and helpful. I got to play two games one win one loss and am pretty much in love with the game system. Its very fast pace and a lot can happen very quick. A small mistake can really cost you. Great times, cant wait to do it again next week!

Traumadore
01-30-2011, 06:01 PM
I went to the wargaming shop Friday and had a great time! The guys up there for Warmachine/Hordes were super nice and helpful. I got to play two games one win one loss and am pretty much in love with the game system. Its very fast pace and a lot can happen very quick. A small mistake can really cost you. Great times, cant wait to do it again next week!

Yeah, I wish I could play this game, but I pretty much just stick to 40k and D&D as far as miniatures games go. I need to bug people to play 40k with me more frequently, I haven't played since august. Also, I need to break down and get a piece of nerd-luggage so I'll actually go to the FLGS and play.

Cyrael
01-31-2011, 01:42 PM
I love the Warhammer universe quite a bit, but really have no head for strategy and the general flow of tabletop war games. On top of that it doesn't look like there is much of a call for Warhammer: Fantasy out here. I know there is a lot of 40K going on, so I've thought about a Chaos Daemons army so I could play on both fronts, but I don't know how well that would work out.

Warmachine has some cool models. I'm sure it is super popular and I'm not the first person to say this, but the Harbinger of Mennoth is almost enough to get me to play that army.

Comb Stranger
01-31-2011, 03:25 PM
I'm fond of the Decimator.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/35/decimator.jpg

Not so fond of my crappy phone camera.

Pigu
02-01-2011, 06:15 AM
Very nice! I have the Khador Battle Box all painted up which consists of Sorsha, a Destroyer, and a Juggernaught. I think my next add will be some Widowmakers and then a Decimator. That will make my force pretty Focus starved but I love the mechs so much I cant help it. I am prolly gonna grab the Old Witch of Khador as well as a secondary warcaster. When I get some pictures taken I will post my stuff.

I also have a Legion of Everblight starter for Hordes I bought a while ago. I need some help pinning the big model but I should have those assembled and primed soon.

This game just makes for great narrative moments. The game I won my opponent moved his warcaster in just a bit too close trying to finish off my caster and couldnt break her defense. On my turn he got charged and one shot by my Jugger's Ice Axe. BLOODSPLOSION!

Pigu
02-08-2011, 05:41 AM
Had some more good games at the store this weekend, 2 wins and one loss and I found a great move/feat/charge combo for my warcaster that keeps people on their toes. Had a great game against a guy playing pirates and just won by the skin of my teeth because he wasted his feat on an early turn and thus, didnt have it when he really needed me to back off.

benjibot
02-09-2011, 10:02 PM
40K is definitely the most popular game at my shop but we got a Privateer pressganger who can swing by on Tuesdays I think. I'm still on the fence because I've spent so much damned money on wowtcg cards lately. I don't really have a place in my apartment I can paint either (I still haven't bought a damned table because I rarely have company and even less rarely need a place to sit).

I do love the Khador style. I was thinking of going the mercenary route. I love the dwarf mining equipment mechs.

My favorite Khador unit (from the photos) is the one with two giant steam hammers for hands.

Pigu
02-10-2011, 06:34 AM
Yeah space for crap can be annoying. I have a ton of crap in a closet and it takes me about 10 to 15 mins to get set up for painting. I have my Leigon of Everblight almost all painted up. Lylyth and the 4 Shredders are done and just require basing. Still need to pick up some green stuff though to fill gaps on the Carnivion before painting him up. I'll be rockin the Khador this week but next week most likely I will take in my Everblight to get a feel for Hordes and the Fury mechanic. Widowmakers should come in this week too, knocking my Khador force up to 15 points.

Comb Stranger
02-10-2011, 01:08 PM
My favorite Khador unit (from the photos) is the one with two giant steam hammers for hands.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4OYGjUrdllo/SrTpaLq01LI/AAAAAAAAdNA/ym2XIZXZruw/s400/big_o.jpg

Traumadore
02-11-2011, 10:56 AM
I just found out theres several people in my apartment complex who play 40k on a weekly basis. I might have something to say in this thread again!

Time Punch
03-03-2011, 05:10 AM
This game just makes for great narrative moments. The game I won my opponent moved his warcaster in just a bit too close trying to finish off my caster and couldnt break her defense. On my turn he got charged and one shot by my Jugger's Ice Axe. BLOODSPLOSION!

Congrats on the bloodsplosion! :D

One of the best aspects of Privateer Press games is narrative. Both the narrative outside the game (though its not going to win any awards, the background story is consistently well written and entertaining,) and the stories of some of the madcap crap that happens in the game.

Example: Playing against a buddy's Retribution army a few weeks ago. The game ends when my (on fire) warjack throws his warcaster into another one of my warjacks (who was also on fire.)

Flaming warjack human (in this case, elven) volleyball.

If I had a van (and an appropriately long mullet,) I'd so get that airbrushed on the side.

Pigu
03-07-2011, 08:47 AM
I have continued my weekly battles, now using my 25 point Everblight list. Two wins and one loss (and that one was real close.) I can tell I am getting better. In the last game I played against a very nice guys Trollblood army I had a great "I think I can just kill your warlock this turn." moment. A few shots from my Hex Hunters, and 3 charges from some shredders later, Abby and my Carnivion had an open charge lane to his lock. A crit from Abby meant no transfers or tough roll, then the Carny ate his face off. GG!

Egarwaen
03-07-2011, 02:56 PM
A bunch of the people I LARP with here have gotten interested in Catalyst's new Classic Battletech stuff. Total Warfare does a wonderful job of revamping the creaking old rules engine for actual play, with concise, readable rules and a handful of very well-thought-out tweaks here and there. As soon as you're doing anything but fighting with giant robots, the special rules for other vehicle types turn the system into a flaming wreck, but the basic core's good enough and the other stuff seems worth breaking out for specific battles now and then.

Oddly, Catalyst doesn't seem to sell any Battletech map packs anymore. I've got a bunch of maps in storage somewhere at my folks' place, but that's back on the East Coast. So sad panda.

We're planning to play through one of their campaign paths in once-a-month games.

Pigu
03-09-2011, 05:12 AM
So I sold off some MTGO cards and seeing as how my local store cant seem to get any Privateer Press stuff in lately I put in an order at Miniatures Market. Picket up an Angelius, Scytheon, 2 Strider Deathstalkers, Nephelim Protector, and Anyssa Ryvaal. Thats a lot to assemble/paint!

Pigu
03-18-2011, 08:56 AM
Almost done painting up the Scytheon and Angy maybe a night or 2 to go on those. Also just found out my brother ordered me Strakhov and some Assault Kommandos for my Khador. Next week I am picking up a Spriggan and that should bring me to 25 points for the Steam Russians. I think I am going to aim for a Strakhov T4 list at 35 points, then pick up the GIANT WAR WAGON to swap in for fun. Good times!

Egarwaen
03-21-2011, 02:22 PM
So, we've started the 3052 campaign track. We're planning two parallel playthroughs - two of us are playing a combined FS/DC task force, and the other is playing a Clan invasion force. We're going to switch off tracks, rather than actually go head-to-head, with the goal being to survive until after the battle of Tukayyid.

It's pretty interesting. Total Warfare's made a lot of small but significant balance tweaks, and de-learning the rules is taking some work. The first game was the IS team defending against a Clan assault, and random rolls wound up pushing it into the top end of the weight class. We eked out a partial victory by assassinating the enemy commander, and quit the field with our own destroyed units as salvage. Most of our rules mistakes were in the Clan's favor (AMS fired too often, his Targetting Computers always hit their called locations), so future battles should be more even. Incidentally, in heavy-weight Battletech play, head shots are brutal - of the four mech kills, two were due to headshots, and one was but shouldn't have been. (Its Gyro was destroyed, which should've removed it from the scenario, but we missed that rule)

Pigu
03-22-2011, 05:28 AM
Just seeing someone write about battletech is like sitting next to a warm fire!

So I ended up receiving more loot for my birthday, the final tally is

Beast 09, Strakov, Assault kommandos, Winter Guard Infantry+attachment, Kovnik Joe, and a War Dog. Wewt!

Pigu
03-24-2011, 08:47 AM
So I ended up spontaniously ordering a 35pt Trollblood army. Its not the typical infantry brick mostly ppl run at my LGS and seems like a bunch of fun Units

Grim Angus
Dire Troll Blitzer
Dire Troll Bomber
Earthborn Dire Troll
Stoneshapers
J. Stonetide
Pyg Bushwackers

Some shooting, some stomping and some huge Power 16 aoe bombs!

benjibot
03-30-2011, 10:49 PM
So I sold off some MTGO cards and seeing as how my local store cant seem to get any Privateer Press stuff in lately…

This seems to be happening everywhere, particularly with the older units. Demand has outstripped supply and Privateer is struggling to catch up.

I went ahead and bought the factions book for mercenaries today. I think I'm going to go with Durgen Madhammer as my Warcaster and blow up stuff real good.

Pigu
03-31-2011, 04:48 AM
Very nice! And yeah PP is having a very hard time, particularly with some models. My LGS said they are working with a new Distro that should finally get me my Khador Widowmakers that have been on order for 2 months, so that is a positive. Mid next week I should have my entire 35 pt Khador force painted and based. I will try to figure out how to post some half decent pictures of them. The list is...

pSorcha
Beast 09
Destroyer
Juggernaught
War Dog

Min Winter Guard Infantry w/Attachment
Kovnik Joe
Widowmakers

Büge
04-10-2011, 02:06 PM
I LOVE MONSTERPOCALYPSE
sorry Google
http://teamcovenant.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/r/frontlineape.png
Frontline Apes are so good! You get a grunt and an elite side-by-side and they get 3 Boost dice EACH. Add a third grunt and they can reliably take chunks out of your opponent's monster. They're how I won a game yesterday. Those stinkin' mole-men never saw it coming.

Googleshng
04-10-2011, 05:05 PM
AHEM. (http://www.world-domination-llc.com/games/mvm/)

Lucas
04-10-2011, 05:54 PM
Don't worry Google, I got your back on this. I've still played more MvM than Monsterpocalypse myself. Even if the latter does have more variety and more than a snowball's chance in hell I'll find someone to play with me.

In my own wargaming news, I picked up Pocket Battles: Orcs vs. Elves yesterday and played some with my friend after the Warlord tournament. It didn't go very well, with my friend (playing elves) setting up most of his ranged units in the back ranks only for us to discover they can't actually shoot from there. That and similar "Oh, is that what the rule is?" clumsiness kinda sucked the fun out of it, but I hope to give it another go now that we know the rules a little better and expect it could be pretty great.

Pigu
04-11-2011, 07:36 AM
I didnt get to game Friday because the wife had plans, but I spent all weekend painting up an Earthborn Dire Troll. It took me a pretty long time to figure out exactly how I wanted it to look but I am pretty happy with the end result. I think Beast 09 is still my best painted mini, but the earthborn took a lot more effort!

It wont be fully painted by any margin but Friday should be the debut of my Trollblood list

Grim Angus(Warlock)
Impaler
Earthborn
Bomber
Pyg Bushwackers
Pyg Burrowers
Janessa Stonetide
Runeshapers

Debuffs and knockdowns are on the menu! That said, this game has so much "Immune to RULES" stuff in it that I could still get boned. High armor could also be an issue, but I think I can deal with it.

Büge
04-11-2011, 09:48 AM
AHEM. (http://www.world-domination-llc.com/games/mvm/)

I respect your right to be bitter, Google.

However, I'd like to point out that monkeys are awesome.

Googleshng
04-11-2011, 05:43 PM
I'd never deny the awesomeness of monkeys in general. They're less cool when they're flagrantly stealing my ideas and completely ruining me financially though.
http://www.kekkai.org/google/random/gorilla_grodd_bb_2.jpg
... OK, admittedly there's exceptions to everything.

Falselogic
04-12-2011, 09:49 PM
If you're interested in purchasing a piece of tabletop gaming history I'm selling the original Space Hulk and its two expansions on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330552875173&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT).

Traumadore
04-15-2011, 10:12 AM
Oh my goodness, I'm finally going to play 40k again next monday. My Tau versus my neighbor's Imperial Guard. I know nothing about his list, but I think he'll be going in blind too.

It'll be 1250, on account I have a small table, but I think I'll be able to fit...oh, 6-7 skimmers. I'm a bit worried I wont be able to fit my Pathfinders in though, and they're pretty crucial to my usual strategy.

Traumadore
04-19-2011, 09:00 AM
Well I decided last minute to use orks instead, and it was a poor choice. His IG had two hellhounds, three sentinels with heavy flamers, and lots of high rate of fire weapons. No infantry on the ground, only mounted in chimeras and a vendetta. The five vehicles with flamers alone were enough to seal the game. It was still fun to play since it's been 7 or 8 months since my last game.

At least now that I know his style I can thrash him with my Tau next time.

Falselogic
04-25-2011, 11:31 AM
So, I've got an enormous Ultramarine Army (fully painted) that I'm trying to offload. Anyone have any experience with the secondhand market/best places to sell this thing?

Comb Stranger
04-25-2011, 02:57 PM
You could put up a flyer at your local comic/hobby shops. People like to inspect the merchandise before they buy, and it cuts out shipping and listing costs. Otherwise, everyone I know just uses eBay.

Pigu
04-28-2011, 05:14 AM
My FLGS finally got in my widowmaker unit so my Khador army is officially "done" for the time being.

Epic Sorcha
Beast 09
Destroyer
Juggernaught
War Dog
Min. Winterguard with UA and a rocketeer
Kovnic Joe
Widowmakers

They should be fully painted and based by Sat. and in celebration I ordered some Retribution of Scyrah.
Picked up:

Rhyvn
Manticore
Arcanist
Mage Hunter Strike Force
Mage Hunter Commander
Stormfall Archers

Nice little starter 15 point list. Cant wait to paint them. Going for the Studio colors which means I have a TON of white to paint and I dont own an airbrush. Very scary, but I think I am up to the challenge!

Falselogic
05-04-2011, 04:21 PM
So, I bought a fleet back when I was contemplating massive WH40K campaigns that would be multi-leveled. Where BFG games and Wh40K games would effect each other.

Anyway, I never found anyone else to play with and they just languished in the closet. This weekend though I was able to finish them (http://wp.me/p8fXx-nk)!

Now, again, I need to find someone to play with.

Comb Stranger
05-05-2011, 11:17 AM
Yeah, I've had the same problem. It seems interesting, but it's one of those games no one actually plays. There might be one guy at the comic shop, but it's always the guy with the ponytail who substitutes immaculately painted figurines for personality.

Daikaiju
05-14-2011, 11:39 AM
I've always admired the patience and skill involved in tabletop war gaming. I've wanted to give it a shot myself but have, at various points in my life, lacked the resources or the space.
Also I have issues with assembling small models. I once assembled a model of the Space Battleship Yamato for my brother's birthday (big Starblazers fan) and nearly went insane piecing together the port and starboard gun batteries and the various antennae.

The closest I've come is the last version of Talisman GamesWorkshop put out before giving the licence to FFG. The unpainted minis silently mock my lack of fine tuned control.

Anyone wanna paint up these guys?

Falselogic
05-14-2011, 11:56 AM
My Ultramarines Army (http://wp.me/p8fXx-ny)! I'm thinking of selling it cause I never play with the damn thing.

It was the first army I got and painted and you can see the improvement as you look at the various figures...

Anyone want a large Ultramarine army?

Büge
05-14-2011, 08:24 PM
I've always admired the patience and skill involved in tabletop war gaming. I've wanted to give it a shot myself but have, at various points in my life, lacked the resources or the space.
Also I have issues with assembling small models. I once assembled a model of the Space Battleship Yamato for my brother's birthday (big Starblazers fan) and nearly went insane piecing together the port and starboard gun batteries and the various antennae.

The closest I've come is the last version of Talisman GamesWorkshop put out before giving the licence to FFG. The unpainted minis silently mock my lack of fine tuned control.

Anyone wanna paint up these guys?

Your proposal is intriguing. What does the collection consist of?

Daikaiju
05-15-2011, 07:55 AM
It's the 3rd Edition, with 11 minis, I believe. I'll have to crack open the box and see who's what. Maybe if I get these painted up i can get some folk to play it with me.

nunix
05-30-2011, 05:20 PM
http://seemslegit.com/_images/3f4ce82cebfe36f3b864a09bb636c817/887%20-%20blood%20khorne%20lemons%20war%20warhammer-40k.jpg

Pigu
06-01-2011, 06:03 AM
The bump for the blood god reminded me to come in and update!

Played a few more games recently with varied results. Decided to add some more infantry to my Khador so I bought some Doom Reaves with UA and also picked up some Manhunter solos and Epic Vlad. Should be pretty good for tornies to have an infantry heavy list to run.

Also picked up some Cryx stuff I am going to slowly get together.

Pigu
06-08-2011, 08:28 AM
So I started getting into Malifaux a bit after I watched a game last week. Seems like a very neat objective based game with mad style. I picked up Nekima, a Primodial Magic totem, and a Black Blood Shaman. Waiting on my Lilith box set and will prolly pick up the showgirls this week. Good things!

Falselogic
08-16-2011, 11:04 AM
Games Workshop revealed their Finecast resin models a month or two back but I hadn't paid much attention to it til now. GW gets out of the ever increasing costs of metals, switches to cheap as dirt resin and they raise prices on the models?

I'm out. I can't take this kind of abuse anymore. (http://www.falselogic.net/dimortuisunt/2011/08/16/killing-me/)

Traumadore
08-17-2011, 11:07 AM
Well I'm pretty sure that casting in different materials requires a different mold, and resin casting uses a foam rubber type mold that deteriorates pretty rapidly so if you're making a whole lot you need to keep making new molds and throwing out the old ones. What this usually means is that they're cast in limited editions at higher prices like Forgeworld items. It actually doesn't make a lot of sense for items you want to be always available. My brother told me about the finecast resin kits, which he got a few of. He said it's almost like a mix of plastic and resin, where it has a tensile strength and minimal mold lines and flashing like the plastic kits, but the detail of resin (he's got a few Forgeworld kits too). If that's the case then they might be using an entirely different material and process for the molds as well.

Anyway, I hate metal models and will not mourn their passing in this case. Also they aren't produced in chinese factories, but by artists and craftspeople. Im still happy to buy a model kit when it strikes my fancy, build and paint it at my own pace and play casual games with my friends. I don't really consider it abuse. I know there are people who race out and buy an army list for the newest codex to get it painted up for the next tournament, but you don't have to keep up with those people.

Now if you want to complain about something it should be the half-assed update to the Sisters of Battle.

Büge
08-17-2011, 12:51 PM
Now if you want to complain about something it should be the half-assed update to the Sisters of Battle.

Sigh. The one thing that could interest me about playing the game and they go ahead and ruin it.

Comb Stranger
08-17-2011, 03:32 PM
They changed it, now it sucks! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheyChangedItNowItSucks)

Actually, I have no idea how they changed Sisters. Does it have special characters based on obsolete rules like the Tau codex? It sure is great that I can ignore target priority tests under certain circumstances! That's totally worth the points!

Traumadore
08-17-2011, 03:50 PM
They changed it, now it sucks! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheyChangedItNowItSucks)

Actually, I have no idea how they changed Sisters. Does it have special characters based on obsolete rules like the Tau codex? It sure is great that I can ignore target priority tests under certain circumstances! That's totally worth the points!

I wish that trope could be applied to this situation, which is actually more of an issue of the company not really enforcing consistent editorial control across their products. Which is weird because they otherwise seemed to be getting their shit together more and more this edition of 40k.

Anyway instead of a codex they're getting a feature spread between TWO issues of White Dwarf magazine. The first one came out this month and is a slim 7 pages with no point values but a general paring down of an already anemic army list. It strips out any and all mention of inquisition units (HQs, assassins, stormtroopers). It adds a couple of special characters and reworks the army's Faith system so that it is simpler, just as unreliable and less powerful since each unit has a specific situational use for Faith Points. The army no longer resists psychic effects on a 5+, but has a 6+ invulnerable save instead (kind of sucky considering the new rules throw out cover saves like candy, not a good trade). This is all via my bro, but the first half of this debacle is not promising.

This is of course a few months after they enthusiastically announced an updated Witchhunters PDF codex online which turned out to be the old codex with any mention of Imperial Guard or Space Marine allies stripped out of it. Now with the new list it's actually about as bare as Necrons, which is sad because they're so fragile in comparison. I don't know why GW is working so hard to troll the 85 people who still play Sisters of Battle.

Falselogic
08-17-2011, 03:55 PM
I don't know why GW is working so hard to troll the 85 people who still play Sisters of Battle.

My guess is because they want to kill the line off. Slim down the army choices and focus on making "great" the ones that make them the most money...

Traumadore
08-17-2011, 04:14 PM
My guess is because they want to kill the line off. Slim down the army choices and focus on making "great" the ones that make them the most money...

Yeah there's no good way to say "we won't be supporting this army anymore". I'm guessing this is just going to put it on life support indefinitely, though I don't see the point if they aren't even trying to get the models back in stores where people can buy them, let alone making new ones people can get excited about. Even the Special Characters are just putting names to some of the retinue models that already existed.

There are so many people who I've heard and read saying they would be interested in playing sisters if it wasn't all metal pieces. I mean they don't even sell the boxes anymore. You have the buy the troops 3 at a time, which are also the bulk of the filler for every other unit in the army except repentia.

Basically I feel like it would have been better if they had done nothing at all until they're ready to give it a treatment up to par with other armies.

Falselogic
08-17-2011, 04:17 PM
Yeah there's no good way to say "we won't be supporting this army anymore". I'm guessing this is just going to put it on life support indefinitely, though I don't see the point if they aren't even trying to get the models back in stores where people can buy them, let alone making new ones people can get excited about. Even the Special Characters are just putting names to some of the retinue models that already existed.

There are so many people who I've heard and read saying they would be interested in playing sisters if it wasn't all metal pieces. I mean they don't even sell the boxes anymore. You have the buy the troops 3 at a time, which are also the bulk of the filler for every other unit in the army except repentia.

Basically I feel like it would have been better if they had done nothing at all until they're ready to give it a treatment up to par with other armies.

Despite their popularity with a small minority of gamers I think the SoB are a lot like Femshep in that only a tiny subset are even interested in them (18% of people played as FemShep.) The army was made at a time when GW was much more haphazard in their planning of the game...

I'd say they're already unsupported and the articles in WD were there to just give the few players using them now something to work with...

Büge
08-17-2011, 06:34 PM
They changed it, now it sucks! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheyChangedItNowItSucks)

I can link wikis too (http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Matthew_Ward)

Comb Stranger
08-18-2011, 04:58 PM
Yep, that sure is a guy.

Falselogic
08-27-2011, 09:59 AM
I've got a few Rackham Confrontation models (Wolfen and Keratis) does anyone want them?

Claimed

McDohl
08-28-2011, 10:04 PM
My friends tried to teach me Warhammer 40k this weekend.

My facial expression throughout the entire explanation as they played was something along the lines of this:

http://www.thegrumpypaladin.com/private/jill.png

When I did figure some stuff out, it seems to be that whoever has more money to blow on figures will eventually wind up winning...

...that's not the case, is it?

fugu13
08-29-2011, 12:58 AM
No, it isn't the case, though if one person has spent a particularly small amount for the point total the odds can be against them.

However, there are a number of very effective army lists that are cheap (for 40k), tactics matter a lot, and if a person has a small collection, the proper thing for the person with the large collection to do is either loan them some supplemental stuff or play a battle where each side has fewer points to work with. After all, a key part of playing games is good sportsmanship; any dick measuring is supposed to be kept understated and off the battlefield ;) .

Comb Stranger
08-29-2011, 01:54 PM
The thing with 40k is that all the armies are very different. Every unit in the army is assigned a point value based on its effectiveness not as an individual, but in relation to the rest of the army. Generally speaking, two armies of equal point values should be roughly equal on the field, because the army with stronger units won't be fielding as many of them, and any notable advantages are paired with a notable deficiency. Eldar, for example, are very fast and pack a nasty punch, but are made of papier-mâché and puppydog wishes.

But, because army composition is mostly up to the player and variable army sizes have to be considered, it never winds up as balanced as it should be.

Space marines, for example, are amazing in very small games. Their core troops are extremely powerful for their points cost, because the army as a whole is lacking in heavy artillery and fancy tricks. In a 500 point game, where heavy artillery and fancy equipment aren't viable because of their points cost, Space Marines have a huge advantage.

Specialist units also play a big role in balance. A lot of units play a sort of rock-paper-scissors game, being particularly good at dealing with X units while completely worthless versus Y. Since army lists are (officially) written up before you know who and what you're facing, overspecializing will usually lead to a lot of wasted points on ineffective units. Some armies are fairly safe from it (Space Marines, again, are good all-around and rarely caught off-guard), while others depend heavily on specialists to balance their lackluster core units. An army full of flamethrowers will perform very well against Tyranids, but get shot to hell and back by Tau.

It gets worse when you take in consideration that the armies weren't designed simultaneously. Every new army is designed to do fairly well against every existing army, and given some brand new tricks to differentiate them from the others. That's why they design and redesign armies, after all; to give you something new and fresh and cool to play with. Which is great for the new army, but all the older armies weren't designed to counter those tricks, and probably won't be getting anything new until their own redesign comes out years later. It's called power creep; the new codeces are arguably always 'better' than the previous ones, and given how many players jump to try out new armies to exploit their abilities, sometimes you're forced to change your army (and buy different units) to deal with it.

The monetary issue comes in because the models are universally expensive. They aren't priced based on effectiveness (far from it, in a lot of cases), and picking units based on how big and cool they are rather than how statistically effective they'll be can quickly lead to you wasting money on a Shining Spears squad when an identically priced unit of Dark Reapers would have been smarter.

Among friends and regular groups, it leads to a sort of arms race. When you only ever fight against two or three specific armies, you're naturally going to gear your army to do well against them. While some people might shell out for new specialist units, others won't be willing or able to, and their performance in those particular games will suffer for it. The army who spent more money isn't actually any better, all things considered, and will probably get their asses handed to them by a different army; they're just geared to exploit one particular set of weaknesses that they know they'll face again and again. Taken to the extreme, this is called 'being a dick', and can be alleviated by finding a wider array of armies to play against.

Destil
08-29-2011, 04:50 PM
My strategy: Shell out about $250 for enough Dark Eldar to run pretty much everything worthwhile, play for 8 years, never get a codex update, never need one.

(note: Destil has actually played a total of about 6 games over those 8 years...)
(note 2: Still haven't looked at the new codex, either...)

Falselogic
08-29-2011, 05:06 PM
My strategy: Shell out about $250 for enough Dark Eldar to run pretty much everything worthwhile, play for 8 years, never get a codex update, never need one.

(note: Destil has actually played a total of about 6 games over those 8 years...)
(note 2: Still haven't looked at the new codex, either...)

The new codex is sweet! As are the new models.

SilentSnake
08-29-2011, 07:50 PM
I'm thinking about jumping in on this 40K thing with Blood Angels. Is this a good idea y/n? (I haven't seen the codex yet.)

Also, my friend keeps telling me that the Grey Knights are the shit, as he runs them. Are they indeed the shit?

Comb Stranger
08-29-2011, 08:12 PM
As Büge linked about earlier, Blood Angels and Grey Knights were both written by an ascended fanboy with no concept of balance or faithfulness to the fiction. They are what a ten year old would design if told to make the best army.

Blood Angels are space marines (a great and all-around competetive army), plus they're better with swords, their cars are twice as fast, and their tanks can fly.

I really wish I was kidding.

Grey Knights are the best of those guys given even better armor, weapons, forcefields, the ability to destroy giant demons by farting, giant suits of power armor that they can wear over top of their already legendary power armor to use even bigger guns and totally sweet jetpacks, and get immunity to half the weapons in the game, because NO FAIR NO KILLING MY AWESOME GUYZ CHEATER! Also, the writer completely dropped the decade-established, multi-book spanning puritanical/radical split that made the Inquisition so interesting (you know, the thing the games Inquisitor and Dark Heresy are based on) so that they could also use totally badass demon weapons, employ demonhosts, and generally make the legions of chaos their bitch. Also their leader totally killed a god one time HAO AWSOME IS THAT RITE?

Generally speaking, showing up to your local comic shop with either will elicit a lot of groaning, whining and nerdrage.

Lucas
08-29-2011, 08:28 PM
Every time Grey Knights come up, this is all I can think about:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f265/gailan572/1304057080538.png

I mean, I'm not a huge Warhammer 40K fan (ignore how I have all the Dawn of War games and am saving up for Space Marine and am rereading one of the novels right now and may or may not be writing Brighthammer fanfic), but for fuck's sake Ward.... At the very least it's a waste of a good Bolter Bitch.

SilentSnake
08-29-2011, 08:35 PM
I don't know a ton about the factions or armies, which is why I picked one I knew the name of. (The Grey Knights thing I've seen firsthand, though, so I'm not surprised to hear that.)

I'd like to find a faction that no one else at the shop is running. I think what I know people are running is Grey Knights, Orks, and...the Tau Empire maybe?

I guess what I'm asking is what are some good options I can look into?

pointzeroeight
08-29-2011, 08:39 PM
I now have paints with which to paint my Khador battle group. I'm nervous about this since I have no confidence in my painting abilities. Watching the painter at the Privateer Press booth at PAX did not help that much, though it isn't so discouraging since she's been painting for years.

Büge
08-29-2011, 08:50 PM
It gets worse when you take in consideration that the armies weren't designed simultaneously. Every new army is designed to do fairly well against every existing army, and given some brand new tricks to differentiate them from the others. That's why they design and redesign armies, after all; to give you something new and fresh and cool to play with. Which is great for the new army, but all the older armies weren't designed to counter those tricks, and probably won't be getting anything new until their own redesign comes out years later. It's called power creep; the new codeces are arguably always 'better' than the previous ones, and given how many players jump to try out new armies to exploit their abilities, sometimes you're forced to change your army (and buy different units) to deal with it.

Still doesn't explain why GW designed the new Sisters codex to be crap on legs.

Comb Stranger
08-29-2011, 08:53 PM
They're easier to make into hats?

Falselogic
08-29-2011, 09:18 PM
I don't know a ton about the factions or armies, which is why I picked one I knew the name of. (The Grey Knights thing I've seen firsthand, though, so I'm not surprised to hear that.)

I'd like to find a faction that no one else at the shop is running. I think what I know people are running is Grey Knights, Orks, and...the Tau Empire maybe?

I guess what I'm asking is what are some good options I can look into?


Dark Elder are cool. Necrons are getting updated this fall/winter and are basically an army of Terminators.

Lucas
08-29-2011, 10:47 PM
Necrons are getting updated this fall/winter and are basically the cutest, most survivable army on the board.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f265/gailan572/Lolicron09.jpg
(Actual Necrons may not look like Lolicron. They may look like Joycrons (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f265/gailan572/joycrons.jpg) if you get the right colors of paint, though.)

On the subject of actually adding something to the conversation (something I can't really do easily, what with not being rich/crazy enough to play 40K), Dark Eldar also sound like fun: they hit fast and hard, but require a near-professional player to not die on the second turn. From what I hear the latest update (which came out this year, after twelve years without the updates most other armies were getting) gave them some nice buffs that made them a lot more forgiving of newb-hood and other mistakes, though as I understand it they still need to get in a few good hits at the start to really get the ball rolling on their own survivability (which does fit with their fluff).

Destil
08-29-2011, 11:44 PM
The new codex is sweet! As are the new models.

Well, I suppose a quick peek wouldn't hurt...

Incubi as an elite choice? Oh, very yes.

Traumadore
08-31-2011, 10:22 AM
Silentsnake: Any variety of Space Marine (including grey knights etc.) is generally going to be overplayed, but if that's what you want, go for it. Basically the game is fun, but the only way you're ever going to get all that stuff built and painted is if you love the models. And each codex can produce radically different armies, so it's unlikely you're going to end up with exactly the same choices. Usually people produce a generalist list for their first army, and then start doing more specialized forces if they take on another.

So yeah, do what you like. Either go to the website and look at each army, or see if you can look at the retailer catalog at a local store. Flipping through should give you an idea of which army you like the most.

If you want some feedback for which are easiest to paint, least expensive, etc. then we can talk about that too.

Falselogic
08-31-2011, 10:26 AM
Also before hitting up a store to buy an army check eBay. There are always people there dumping the hobby selling armies.

Actually, I have an Ultramarine army (painted and everything) if you're interested. Pictures here (http://www.falselogic.net/dimortuisunt/2011/05/11/the-ultramarines-courage-and-honour/).

Traumadore
08-31-2011, 10:35 AM
Also before hitting up a store to buy an army check eBay. There are always people there dumping the hobby selling armies.

Oh yeah, definitely hit up Ebay. Between that and some trades I got like $400 retail of Chaos Space Marines for $130 and a handful of videogames.

SilentSnake
09-28-2011, 10:14 PM
So yeah, the store has ordered me a Dark Eldar codex, but I find my eyes drifting towards the Warmachine books. I skimmed over some of the units and such and I have to say that, while I like the fluff of Warhammer stuff more, I like Warmachine's art direction better. It's much more interesting to me in general: less angular, more bizarre (in a good way!). I've been looking into making a Retribution army using an Adeptis Rahn Theme Force (Battle Mages!). I'm not sure why, but I seem to be more excited for this than building a 40K force. (Perhaps because the mechanics feel closer to something like Heroclix, which I already do play.)

Thoughts on key differences between the games?

Pigu
10-04-2011, 05:26 AM
Well I mainly play Warmachine/Hordes so I suppose I can give you a bit of my opinion. To me Warmahordes feels a lot smoother and a lot faster to play. I like that I get to use my whole army on my turn and as such can set up entire combos that end up surprising my opponent. I really have to like a theme to play a tabletop game and the steampunk sorta setting is mainly what got me to bite on Warmachine. I own a Rahn force btw and I think it is very fun to play. Lots of moving your opponents stuff around.

As far as 40k goes I like the setting but just done have much of a drive to play the game. At the shop I go to people playing Warhammer fantasy seem to have a great time, but the 40k guys are constantly looking for new games to play and talk about how boring they think it is. My experience is super limited though so take it with a grain of salt.

For info sake I also play Malifaux.

SS if you decide to get into Warmachine pm me and let me know your location and stuff. I may have some things you can use provided your not so far away it costs a billion dollars to ship to you :D.

benjibot
10-04-2011, 06:01 AM
Well, it had been my intention to try Warmachine as my toy soldier game of choice. Everything I've heard from players makes it sound great, but it just never caught on at my primary local shop. It's considerably more popular at another shop I visit less regularly, but even then I'd still need to pick up most of my units online (I wanted to field Mercenaries; Madhammer to be precise).

Maybe one day.

Lately I've been seriously considering Warhammer Fantasy. Specifically Skaven based almost entirely around the prospect of crashing a Doomwheel (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=cat440022a&aId=3800014a) into someone's flank.

This is entirely dependent on me getting my shit together financially.

If, and this is kind of a big if, I do decide to go down this route: Island of Blood yea or nay? I have zero interest in sullying my table with any elf related nonsense, but someone might want those figures right?

Lucas
10-12-2011, 12:40 AM
I've been wanting to do a Death Angel LP for quite a while now, but figuring out how to represent the game on the forum without scanning the cards has been a serious sticking point. I did have the idea to use screenshots from Dawn of War 2, but the army painter doesn't have the units I need and it's bloody difficult to get a decent shot from the character loadout screen* - I'm not even sure the game lets you equip Terminators with all the weapons I need. To that end, I'm putting out a call here. if anyone has Terminators with the following weapons that they can photograph for me, it would be a major step forward for a Death Angel LP:

Storm bolter
Power sword
Flamer
Heavy bolter
Storm shield/thunder hammer
Power claws
a Librarian
and a picture or four of genestealers would help too

If color's actually an option, I'd prefer red since hey, Blood Angels, but beggars can't be choosers.

*Actually, now that I think about it a few weeks after my last attempt, maybe if I take the units into battle, I might get a decent screenshot from there....

Comb Stranger
10-12-2011, 11:54 AM
You could ask for illustrations in the creative subforum.

John
10-12-2011, 12:47 PM
Just look up on Boardgamegeek for Space Hulk pics, should have all that you need. Fantasy Flight lets you run online games as long as you remove the flavor text, but I don't think there's much of that in Death Angel. Still, you might want to check with them even if you don't use scans.

benjibot
10-27-2011, 01:58 PM
My co-worker's favorite shop is sadly going out of business. But it means she was able to pick up Durgen Madhammer for me at a discount. I couldn't find that guy anywhere.

So my WarMachine army got one person stronger. For a total of one.

(Now I guess I need tool and paint.)

Lucas
10-27-2011, 03:45 PM
So my WarMachine army got one person stronger. For a total of one.

Well, you're doing better than my Everblight horde....

Comb Stranger
10-27-2011, 03:58 PM
I've got you all beat. I have one finished model and a second one partly primed!

benjibot
10-27-2011, 06:48 PM
I also got a bunch of little rat men in the mail today. I found the Skaven army from Island of Blood on eBay and was the only bidder.

Falselogic
10-28-2011, 05:02 PM
Frothing Demand Bird.gif (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3VxsnuyMIM0)

Daikaiju
11-01-2011, 12:24 PM
So Heroclix (http://hco.heroclix.com/newsfeed) is going online. Or to put another way...

WE HEARD U LIK CLIX SO WE PUT SUM CLICKS IN UR CLIX SO U CAN CLICK.

Comb Stranger
11-02-2011, 10:55 AM
So Heroclix (http://hco.heroclix.com/newsfeed) is going online. Or to put another way...

WE HEARD U LIK CLIX SO WE PUT SUM CLICKS IN UR CLIX SO U CAN CLICK.

...while u clik.

ChefCthulhu
11-02-2011, 11:27 AM
So I noticed an announcement today about the revised Necron Codex coming out... Damn you GW now that you've revised both my races (Tau and Necrons) am I going to have to start wargaming again? Huh?

Falselogic
11-02-2011, 11:32 AM
So I noticed an announcement today about the revised Necron Codex coming out... Damn you GW now that you've revised both my races (Tau and Necrons) am I going to have to start wargaming again? Huh?

You should check this thread more often, or my blog, seeing as I commented on that just a few posts back!

yeah, I'm back in though I'm not going to be buying anything til I see the codex and I'm going to be making my Pariah's serve as whatever those new guys are called.

Destil
11-02-2011, 05:08 PM
I have to admit, the new necron models are pretty damn cool looking.

benjibot
12-01-2011, 11:55 AM
So, I've been painting some Skaven.

I've very nearly finished one unit of Clanrats.

http://i.imgur.com/HEzq9l.jpg (http://imgur.com/HEzq9)

http://i.imgur.com/I0bOll.jpg (http://imgur.com/I0bOl)

These are terrible photos (I only have an iPhone for a camera these days) and I can see so many places I screwed up. Still, I think I did a pretty good job for the first batch of models I've ever painted.

Büge
12-01-2011, 03:19 PM
These are terrible photos (I only have an iPhone for a camera these days) and I can see so many places I screwed up.

I'll say. Putting Warhammer figurines in front of WoW boxes? You want to get sued or something?

benjibot
12-01-2011, 07:14 PM
Haha! I didn't even think about that. That's my nerd room desk where I set up my paint station.

Traumadore
12-02-2011, 10:48 AM
Those look really good actually. As a general rule models look a little better with some brighter highlights to keep them from shrinking into a dark mass at a distance. Otherwise it looks like you aren't choosing to ignore any details or anything, and they're definitely above average for what you could expect to see on the tabletop.

They'll look sooo good once you base them fully, don't drag your feet on it, it's really rewarding!

Pigu
12-02-2011, 11:44 AM
Those look good, especially for your first time. A good rule of thumb is to keep it simple at first, and maybe pick one new thing to work on at a time. Over time you will start to build up different methods to do interesting things. I am by no means a fantastic painter, but that would be my advice. I need to upload some pictures of my stuff to put in here... maybe tonight I will do this. Mine also will be iPhone pictures.

benjibot
12-02-2011, 03:01 PM
Thanks! I'm a little worried about how dark they are too. I've been a little too carefree with the Devlan Mud (amazing stuff though). Plus my choice of base color for the cloaks is awful dark.

I'm planning on giving each of my clanrat and slave units a distinguishing color. I still haven't decided on what to use on the hand weapon group. It's driving me batty that I didn't look closely and divide them into armored and unarmored bodies before gluing the weapons. I could have turned half of them into slaves.

benjibot
12-02-2011, 06:53 PM
Double (meat) post!

I'm planning on doing my basing in a big batch, either when I finish the last of the spear unit or later still. I'm looking forward to seeing them that way.

Tonight I took a couple of the finished figures and added angry, inflamed patches to their boils and tumors with some very watered down Scab Red. Aside from a few places where I got a bit too much red it turned out so well.

Nicholai
12-03-2011, 03:31 PM
My friends and I went to the Fantasy Flight Event Center for the first time and my friends were taken with the Malifaux game minis. No one bought any, but the minis were very impressive. My friends did pick up the Dreadfleet game for a friend's birthday. Looked cool.

Pigu
12-05-2011, 05:37 AM
here are some pics of my stuff! I hope this posts correctly as I have never put pics on a forum before :P

http://i.imgur.com/7CAcjl.jpg

Collette from Malifaux

http://i.imgur.com/mCZzul.jpg

Nekima from Malifaux (not finished yet)

http://i.imgur.com/kSpeul.jpg

Sorcha from Warmachine

http://i.imgur.com/fNZdOl.jpg

Asphyxious from Warmachine (trying to do some glow here.)

http://i.imgur.com/WDZg5l.jpg

Deathjack from Warmachine (more glow!)

http://i.imgur.com/hwycOl.jpg

Destroyer from Warmachine (trying to freehand scratches, dont have it down yet but I'm getting there!

Sorry if this post ends up huge!

Falselogic
12-05-2011, 08:35 AM
Damn Pigu! Those look amazing!

Also if anyone wants to purchase a fully painted very large Ultramarine army PM me.

I also have a starter force of Legion of Everblight (not painted) I'm trying to unload.

So, if you've been looking for an excuse to get into the hobby. Or know someone who is now is a great time to pick these up!

Pigu
12-05-2011, 08:48 AM
Damn Buge! Those look amazing!

Also if anyone wants to purchase a fully painted very large Ultramarine army PM me.

I also have a starter force of Legion of Everblight (not painted) I'm trying to unload.

So, if you've been looking for an excuse to get into the hobby. Or know someone who is now is a great time to pick these up!

I will assume by Buge you meant Pigu, only because I just posted giant pics of my stuff and say thanks!

as for the Everblight, I have all the Carnivion and Shredders I need, but if anyone is new to the game it is a fantastic starter set. Some of the starters have some filler stuff in them you wont want to use, but everything in the Everblight box is a staple. The Warlock it comes with is less used than some others competitively, but is still very good and one of the most fun to play. Great assassination warlock.

Büge
12-05-2011, 10:03 AM
hee hee hee

Nicholai
12-05-2011, 11:05 AM
I will assume by Buge you meant Pigu, only because I just posted giant pics of my stuff and say thanks!

as for the Everblight, I have all the Carnivion and Shredders I need, but if anyone is new to the game it is a fantastic starter set. Some of the starters have some filler stuff in them you wont want to use, but everything in the Everblight box is a staple. The Warlock it comes with is less used than some others competitively, but is still very good and one of the most fun to play. Great assassination warlock.

So how does that Malifaux game work in comparison to Warmachine?

Pigu
12-05-2011, 11:25 AM
So how does that Malifaux game work in comparison to Warmachine?


It is very different. Malifaux is a skirmish game, meaning you really don't use what most people would consider an "army" for instance my Malifaux gang is 8 or 9 models. Malifaux is also heavily objective based. When you start a game you draw and pick different objectives to use in order to get points. Examples of objectives would be to push an object to a table edge, kidnap an enemy, get one of your own models killed. Sometimes you reveal them, sometimes you don't. All in all it creates a pretty great narrative experience, and makes the game balance pretty neatly. A super crazy fighting character may be completely useless if your goals are to set dynamite at different objective points. One of the coolest things about Malifaux is you don't use dice! You instead have a deck of cards (called the Fate Deck) that you use to draw your results when you cast spells and active abilities and such. Its a little to complicated to explain here, but it really helps even out the luck factor in the game. Everyone has the same cards with the same frequency.

Also Malifuax is pretty inexpensive as far as games go because you can play without too many units. The starter sets plus a couple other small purchases can get you a good solid group.

That is pretty rambling, but I hope I helped a little bit. I love Warmahordes, but Malifaux is a really nice change of pace, and I feel like it may appeal more to roleplayer types because the narrative of a given game can be so crazy and varied.

Reading this again you may also be asking about Warmachine/Hordes so ill give a little bit on that too.

Warmachine/Hordes is more of a standard wargame though it can be played at smaller points levels for a more skirmish type game. The game is very smooth to play and imo about as easy to understand as Magic the Gathering. It is for sure the easiest for me to teach and was the easiest for me to learn. In your army you will have a leader called a Warlock or Warcaster, this person is very powerful and effectively controls the larger units in your army. If this person gets killed you lose! It is a bit different from most games in that you move your entire army, then your opponent does the same thing, which allows you to set up some pretty crazy combinations of abilities once you know the game pretty well.

That's about all the typing I have in me atm, but if you have any other questions please let me know.

Falselogic
12-28-2011, 11:22 AM
If you or anyone you know is looking to get into Warhammer 40k, you can now buy my Ultramarine Army (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330663865632#ht_1238wt_1139)!


Seriously, tell your friends I need to get rid of this thing.

benjibot
12-29-2011, 10:21 AM
Festivus brought toy soldiers!

I got some Gutter Runners, a Chieftan, a couple of Poison Wind Globadiers, Ikit Klaw, the Doomwheel, and a Warp Lightning Cannon.

Plus I base coated another 19 Clanrats and assembled the Cannon. I don't know how many larger kits can be made into multiple models but the attention to detail on that thing is astonishing. Not only can you make a cannon or a catapult, you can assemble each in three different ways. The little holes that fit the wheels in the other configurations get filled in with these gears that look really smashing.

Pigu
01-01-2012, 04:45 PM
Have some more pics of my stuff uploaded so here you are.

Sorcha again with her Jack, Beast 09.
http://i.imgur.com/Fe6fxl.jpg

The Butcher!
http://i.imgur.com/FpkI7l.jpg

Rhan
http://i.imgur.com/TGXUVl.jpg

Carnivion

http://i.imgur.com/VrmQfl.jpg

Earthborn Dire Troll

http://i.imgur.com/PlCyQl.jpg

Crap iphone pics but you get the idea!

benjibot
01-01-2012, 08:19 PM
Ooh, nice blending on the troll's skin!

I took a break from finishing the second 20 Clanrats to start my Warp Lightning Cannon.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6616464633_d1ca3c1286_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benjibot/6616464633/)

Thus far I've just put the base coat on, then drybrushed to pick up the wood grain. I washed a few planks to give it a haphazard, decrepit feel. Now I'm picking out the many little metal bits.

Pigu
01-01-2012, 09:28 PM
Lookin good Benji, I would wash those metals with black. Even if you highlight them a bit afterward they will look better than just metallic paint IMO. Thanks for the compliment on the shading. I'm not great, but when I decide to shade things I water down the crap out of the paint and do a trillion layers.

benjibot
01-02-2012, 08:58 AM
Thanks, I'm enjoying how well it's coming together. I plan on doing a brown wash (good ol' Devlan) and then going back and adding some rust, mold, and grime. I was going to start that but then I realized there are little wires wrapped around the inside of the frame that I need to pick out and I don't have the colors I want.

Do you normally use the P3 paints? I've heard completely mixed reactions. I think it depends greatly on whether the person started with Citadel or not.

Pigu
01-02-2012, 09:47 AM
I use mostly P3, but I also use some Citadel. I like P3 a whole lot more for general painting because it thins out a lot better in my experience and goes on smoother. Citadel is better for dry-brushing and their washes are AMAZING. Vallejo, Citadel, P3, and Reaper Master Series are all good paints and you shouldn't be brand loyal to any of them. Figure out what is best for what and use it! That being said especially if you are new it can help to follow color guides and using a specific brand can help with that. Also Citadel metallics are worlds better than anyone's and I would not suggest testing that cause a bad metallic paint is a friggin mess!

Pigu
01-05-2012, 07:29 AM
Forcing myself to finish painting my assembled Khador before assembling my newer Khador stuff.

Doomreavers, did these in a couple hours, just need to do little stuff on some of them.
http://i.imgur.com/svwFBl.jpg

Comb Stranger
01-05-2012, 06:09 PM
Pigu I'm going to murder you and eat your heart so I can gain your power.

Pigu
01-06-2012, 05:16 AM
Pigu I'm going to murder you and eat your heart so I can gain your power.

LOL, I will reiterate what I tell everyone about this stuff. Painting miniatures at least to this quality is not hard at all. It is really just a matter of patience and finding people who will explain things simply. It took me a while to get decent but mostly because people on the internet like to obfuscate a bit when talking about this stuff so they seem like painting gods. Reality is all but the very best stuff someone could show you (in person) how to do and you could in a very reasonable amount of time be able to use the technique. Pro miniatures painters are notorious for being super weird at conventions and stuff if you get real specific with them about their painting because they know that most of it isn't THAT hard.

All of this is ignoring some of the REALLY crazy stuff though. I don't think just anyone can paint some of the crazy award winning stuff.

benjibot
01-06-2012, 01:27 PM
Because I'm obsessed with photographing every little step of this thing (and because I haven't had time to sit down for a real session):

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7033/6647574739_4190aa0ff6_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benjibot/6647574739/)

The chassis is more or less done, I just need a few highlights and the (completely useless) blades on the front and the wheels need some weathering.

Pigu
01-06-2012, 01:31 PM
That is gonna look rad. Also I like the heavy rust. Rat-man army has to be gross!

benjibot
01-06-2012, 01:50 PM
Yeah, I was going to just touch a few places here and there like GW's example but I figured the whole thing would probably be going to seed. It's amazing what a little wash can do.

(I don't know what would happen if I tried to do something clean and well-maintained now though. My next army could be a challenge.)

The sculpts on those Reavers are amazing. Nice job for a couple of hours.

Speaking of which, my friend made it to first cut in the Golden Daemon for a piece she spent a few hours on over two nights. Somehow she got put in the same category as giant monsters so she kind of felt like her little angel thing was a tad overshadowed.

benjibot
01-11-2012, 10:20 AM
I finished my Warp Lightning Cannon today. I'm not entirely pleased with my color choices.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7001/6679863301_47edafd5ba_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benjibot/6679863301/)

I built up the metal from a brown/gold mix all the way to the brightest gold and I don't really like it. It's so cold and green. I should have thrown some more orange/copper in. Or built up through copper to gold highlights.

My weathering up top looks wrong too. Verdigris doesn't really make sense on such a gold color.

I'm unsatisfied with the finished result. Sigh.

Pigu
01-12-2012, 04:49 AM
I think it looks pretty darn neat! Any sort of brown/sepia wash will tone down the gold metallics a ton. Just make sure your real even with the wash so you don't lose the highlighting work you have done. I don't really use brass type metallics anymore, I just buy white metals and wash them to turn them bronzy. That said I am mostly painting steampunk/wormahordes which makes sense with really dirty looking metals. I know GW stuff sometimes you may wanna have them more pristine.

Pigu
01-12-2012, 10:16 AM
Sorry for double post but I have picked up some stuff lately and wanted to share:

I have decided to focus on my Khador for a bit and picked up a unit of Shocktroopers, a Spriggan, Torch, A Mortar team(with one more otw), and The Great Bears of Gallowswood. Putting together an eIrusk bombard/heavy armor list that should be a lot of fun to play. I am selling my retribution and gatormen armies and hope to get some assault kommandos with flamethrowers and maybe a Behemoth and some junk for them.

Hopefully I paint some of this soon and will have more pictures!

benjibot
01-14-2012, 05:24 AM
I suppose it wasn't awful, but it wasn't what I wanted. I'd try and bring it to the colors I'd like but it had so many layers already that I was worried of losing detail as it was.

So I stripped it. A day in Simple Clean took the paint clear off.

Pigu
01-18-2012, 05:33 AM
http://i.imgur.com/8kLjFl.jpg

Trolls! I have spent the past 3 nights painting Trollblood Fennblades. This is one of them, I have about another night of skin work then I get to finally start armor and leathers and stuff. I adore the Trollblood models and they are so much fun to play in the game as well. Some bonus warbeasts in the background there too! Mulg and his glowy runes will maul some stuff!

Pigu
01-19-2012, 08:28 PM
Got the skin done on the fenns and decided to finish up one to get an idea what they would look like(and after man hours I needed to remind myself why I am doing this!!) I even painted eyes, which normally I don't do unless I am gonna make them glow.

http://i.imgur.com/46eynl.jpg

I was really worried till I hit up the chin rock thingies with the pinky color. Most of the toll models have something that grabs attention like runes that glow, and without something these guys would have really faded out on the table. They are going to take prolly another week to finish though.

Pigu
01-30-2012, 07:06 AM
Decided not to sell my Gatormen and started painting up a list for a 15 point Tooth and Claw tourney in a couple weeks.

Here is the first done, one of two Blackhide Wrastlers. I really like how he came out, but this picture is pretty bad.

http://i.imgur.com/aILpal.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Wi3K4l.jpg

I may tone the teeth down a bit with some sepia wash. Next either I do another one of those, or some smaller guys (My warlock and a light beast.) hard to decide, and DOTA2 is slowing me down :(

Looking back at this now I might make the 2 spine rows down the middle of his back black, then highlight them a bit. He is supposed to have a "black hide" and I also think it would break up the model really nicely.

Pigu
01-31-2012, 07:01 PM
Operation fix up the gator was a great success. Everything started looking better once I made the black spines and redid the eyes and hood.
still crap pics though.

http://i.imgur.com/UOsEVl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NhTaal.jpg

Pigu
02-14-2012, 05:40 AM
Going to be playing my Cryx stuff in some tourneys coming up soon so I decided to dirty up the Deathjack a little bit. It was way too clean so I painted weathering and rust on it.

http://i.imgur.com/9P7YTl.jpg

Falselogic
03-07-2012, 10:30 AM
A kickstarter campaign that combines legos and tabletop wargamery. (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/JoshuaACNewman/mobile-frame-zero-rapid-attack)

I'm pretty much out of the wargamery business but I do like the lego models.

Googleshng
03-07-2012, 01:58 PM
Link's dead, but I assume this is a new edition of Mechaton?

Falselogic
03-07-2012, 02:00 PM
Link's dead, but I assume this is a new edition of Mechaton?

Yeah the 10th edition it looks like. and try it again?

Büge
03-07-2012, 07:32 PM
Ha! I may have got my cousin interested in picking up Monsterpocalypse. Serves him right for igniting my interest in the Star Wars CCG.

Googleshng
03-07-2012, 09:58 PM
... has yon cousin'o'Büge already been exposed to this? (http://www.world-domination-llc.com/games/mvm/gva.shtml) Because, you know, AHEM and whatnot.

Büge
03-08-2012, 06:14 PM
Pffft

you can't collect that

Googleshng
03-08-2012, 08:15 PM
Sure you can! It just doesn't take very long to do it!

... Until I get a big enough pile of money to put out the next two sets anyway.

Falselogic
03-12-2012, 09:34 PM
Selling a lot of GW books (http://www.gamespite.net/talkingtime/showpost.php?p=1267679&postcount=1495), mostly 40k but there is a Vampire Count book and a rulebook for Necromunda. Also some RPG stuff

Lucas
05-07-2012, 11:48 AM
Has anyone else heard these rumors that Privateer is putting out a Warmachines card game that's supposed to play just like the minis game? It sounds like total fantasy and the guy who told me about it wouldn't or couldn't give me any details, but honestly I'd buy at least one of the books, probably more, if I could play the game with some nice but relatively inexpensive cardboard chits or something instead of dealing with minis.

Hrm... now that I think about it, such a thing is more likely to be like Warlord, but with actions resolved by Xd6 instead of a d20. This would also be pretty sweet.

Traumadore
05-09-2012, 10:41 AM
Well I played 4 games of 40k while I was visiting my brother in Maryland the past week. I didn't bring any of my own stuff so I just used his armies, which made things a little harder on me, but I felt like every game was a fair contest. There was no steamrolling going on.

Imperial Guard (me) vs. Chaos Space Marines
Chaos Demons (me) vs. Grey Knights (odd list involving zero actual Grey Knights)
Chaos Space Marines (me) vs. Orks
Orks (me) vs. Sisters of Battle

I lost the first three and the final game was a draw, but it was all good fun. We randomly managed to roll every type of standard scenario and deployment over the four games, which was nice. We forgot to use the recent Deathworld rules from a white dwarf that we had been meaning to try. Oh well! Anyway my brother has built, painted, and played a whole lot more than me in the 3-4 years since I got him into the hobby and his experience really shows. He controlled the flow of battle in every game but the last, and even then my Orks were no match for the Sisters of Battle who have some solid shooting and a couple scary close-combat options now. I probably could have won if the game had gone a turn longer, but thems the breaks.

Now I have the bug to finish painting my current projects and play some more. I've got some Night Lords underway that are looking good, so they'll be my next project.

Egarwaen
05-09-2012, 04:50 PM
So, I've got to pop in here for a moment and gush about the Mobile Frame Zero rules preview. It's very clever! You roll and allocate dice to all of your "systems" when you activate a unit, and attacking another unit that hasn't already activated causes it to activate. And this cascades. Combined with the "whoever has the biggest advantage goes last" initiative system, it looks to turn a very simple game into an engaging tactical exercise.

pointzeroeight
05-14-2012, 10:56 PM
Finally got started painting my Warmachine stuff today. This is my first real go at painting miniatures, or anything for that matter, so I'm still getting a feel for it. Picture doesn't show it too well, but the red looks thinner than I'd like it to be.

http://i.imgur.com/WlGNC.jpg

callmejeed
06-10-2012, 08:56 PM
I just got back into Warmachine after about a year off by joining a league at a local store (not my normal store near my apartment but one near my parents' house). We're limited to two games a week but I missed the second week, so I've got to make up for some games tomorrow night. I'm playing Trollbloods because they're awesome and I don't have the time and money to start another army. Hopefully when I move back to my place for school (I'm spending summer at my parents' house because most of my friends live around here) I'll be able to make time for more games up there too.

Moble Frame Zero looks pretty sweet, I haven't seen the rules preview yet (Egarwaen where did you find it?) but I'm certainly interested. I like miniatures games and I have a bazillion Legos so I could totally go nuts with that.

Pigu
06-11-2012, 05:13 AM
Finally got started painting my Warmachine stuff today. This is my first real go at painting miniatures, or anything for that matter, so I'm still getting a feel for it. Picture doesn't show it too well, but the red looks thinner than I'd like it to be.

http://i.imgur.com/WlGNC.jpg

Use multiple very thin coats. The coat you have down looks fine, just thin down the paint a lot and do another one. Thick paint is is bad, thin paint with multiple coats is good! If you need any more specific pointers just ask and I would be glad to help, or point you to something that may help.

Painted Scavvy! http://i.imgur.com/K3lGKl.jpg

pointzeroeight
06-12-2012, 12:07 PM
Yeah, I think by the time I finished with the red on that one, I'd done ~4-5 thin coats of it. Pretty happy with how it looks now. Putting the finishing touches on it and my Juggernaut and I'll post some more shots. Just need to do a bit of highlights and a dark wash, neither of which I've done before.

I'm kind of dreading trying to finish up Sorscha, but at least it'll be practice on a human mini before I get Harkevich, which is who I am planning on having as my main 'caster.

I'll almost definitely take you up on the offer Pigu, so thanks!

Büge
06-12-2012, 06:20 PM
To ensure a smooth coat, paint each layer perpendicular to the last.

pointzeroeight
07-22-2012, 12:20 AM
I'll be finishing up my warjacks next time I sit down to paint, and probably basing them, then I'll be starting on Harkevich, who will also be my first metal miniature. I see him taking me a while since he's got so many little details.

Daikaiju
07-31-2012, 08:52 PM
Anyone try Dungeon Command (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/product.aspx?x=dnd/products/dndmin/398050000)? The Penny Arcade Report (http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/dungeon-command-is-a-pleasing-mixture-of-dungeons-and-dragons-miniatures-an) gives it a nod.

Falselogic
07-31-2012, 08:56 PM
As of today, I am no longer a table top wargamer. I sold off and/or threw away the last of my models.

waterpot
08-01-2012, 08:16 AM
Why? did you had a bad experience or Your love one forced you to get rid of Your stuff

Falselogic
08-01-2012, 08:35 AM
Why? did you had a bad experience or Your love one forced you to get rid of Your stuff

I just didn't have the time for it anymore. So I had all these models sitting around doing nothing. Better to have them in the hands of someone who will use them than collecting dust on my shelves.

pointzeroeight
08-06-2012, 09:18 PM
Privateer Press' War Room app has finally released, though it's loaded with issues on Android at the moment. Can't speak for how it is on iOS. Won't load on pretty much any of Samsung's S series phones, including Google Nexus line. Should be nice once it's actually fixed up and running.

The Raider Dr. Jones
12-16-2012, 09:48 PM
So a friend of mine has picked up a copy of the ancient Rogue Trader rulebook, and soon his giant box of plastic from the Reaper kickstarter is coming in. As soon as it's all together, we are gonna roll ourselves up a totally random game of unvarnished first-edition Warhammer 40K. This is gonna rule.

Büge
12-17-2012, 12:01 PM
So a friend of mine has picked up a copy of the ancient Rogue Trader rulebook, and soon his giant box of plastic from the Reaper kickstarter is coming in. As soon as it's all together, we are gonna roll ourselves up a totally random game of unvarnished first-edition Warhammer 40K. This is gonna rule.

I thought it wasn't going to get delivered until March.

Cyrael
01-27-2014, 09:09 AM
Somewhat of a thread resurrection.

My friend is selling off his large Tyranid army in order to pay off some pet related expenses.

If anyone is interested, it is here: Bugs (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-40k-40000-Huge-Tyranid-Tyranids-Army-/271384574674?pt=Games_US&hash=item3f2fc7fad2)

Maybe this is something you are interested in?

His bits box even contains my old bloodthirster from back when I played!

Wolfgang
01-27-2014, 02:53 PM
Sorry about your friend's pet, but he shouldn't have trouble getting rid of (decently-priced) minis at a dedicated 40K community, what with the new Nid codex just out. I'm All Orks or I'd take a look. As a side note: if he's having trouble unloading the army as a whole, he should try and break it up into squads. He might be able to make more money that way, too.

But shit! Now I have a better thread to post pics of things I'm working on. Like my scratchbuilt Warbike Boss!

http://i.imgur.com/dXfMTKu.jpg

Wolfgang
02-10-2014, 07:22 PM
My bottom got paddled so badly again this weekend that it's taken me until today to be able to wrote about it

Orks vs Tau, but the biggest problem was that I was getting the worst dice rolls again. I didn't think it would be possible to roll 30 dice and not get a single number I needed during a pivotal turn.

Wolfgang
02-22-2014, 08:58 PM
Had my first Big Boy tournament today. The format was: 1250pt army lists, each participant plays three games, and the total number of victory points earned at the end of the day determined places. I won two out of three of the games I was in, but didn't have enough points to place. The sucky part was that if I'd had a turn or two more in my first fight (games were time-constrained) I would have been able to pull off a third win.

But it was still incredibly fun! My opponents were all nice, non-pissy ubergame need-to-win nerds. I'd really look forward to a non-competitive game against any of them again. I don't know if they could say the same: my army list is a true, old-school horde Green Tide list, and even at the 1250pt level I was still able to field about 130 miniatures where my opponents were fielding 30-40. Orks! The two games I won I was able to hugely outnumber them and shoot/beat into submission.

Wolfgang
03-04-2014, 03:24 PM
This is that bike model, finished:

http://i.imgur.com/4RJU7L5.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/X0AbOsX.jpg?1

I'm really liking the way the battle damage came out:

http://i.imgur.com/7tsbp2d.jpg?1

Falselogic
03-04-2014, 03:24 PM
nice!