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Olli T
08-06-2012, 07:10 AM
So you all know when there's a film made based on a book, there's a new print of the book with the movie's imagery used on the cover / dustjacket. How do you feel about it?

Some examples:
http://i.imgur.com/5HGe8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/l5peN.jpg

Dizzy
08-06-2012, 07:38 AM
Dislike it. Since books get turned into movies all the time, I'd rather have the original book cover rather than the movie poster. Makes me feel like I'm reading the script even though I'm not. But I am contributing to the marketing and it's annoying too.

The last time I went to B&N I saw so many book covers with the movie adaptation poster on them I thought it was only a matter of time before every book gets turned into a movie.

Loki
08-06-2012, 08:02 AM
It's the tackiest thing and turns the book into an advertisement. I won't even pick up one that has the original cover but has an added blurb like "now a major motion picture."

Olli T
08-06-2012, 08:22 AM
My copy of John Dies has "soon a major motion picture" on it :confused:

Patrick
08-06-2012, 08:24 AM
I would never buy one, but I understand why they do it and anything that gets people to read is a GOOD THING.

Dizzy
08-06-2012, 08:31 AM
patrick, patrick... that's the kind of attitude that has resolved illiteracy today with poor literacy.

Sarcasmorator
08-06-2012, 08:46 AM
patrick, patrick... that's the kind of attitude that has resolved illiteracy today with poor literacy.

Plenty of movies are based on good books, and Twilight sold plenty of copies before any of the movies hit the screen. There's not even a movie for 50 Shades of Grey yet, but when there is I won't blame the movie-derived cover for so many people reading a shitty book. You're conflating poor literacy (the ability to read and write) with poor taste.

I understand the marketing angle and I don't begrudge publishers taking every angle for more sales. And it's not new; I remember shopping for a copy of The Neverending Story about 20 years ago and they all had a movie-derived cover. That's really my only problem with it — if there's not an alternative, non-tie-in covers anymore.

Dizzy
08-06-2012, 09:38 AM
You might as well be considered to have poor literacy if you're consuming bargain bin trash all the time...

http://i.imgur.com/ip92z.jpg

taosterman
08-06-2012, 09:45 AM
Can't believe this is even a poll, and the results so far confirm this. It is the worst shit.

Destil
08-06-2012, 10:31 AM
It could totally work if the book cover weren't just a photo-realistic still from the movie. If it were a move with an abstract cover or something with some actual style.

Of course off the top of my head I couldn't think of any book/movie to actually do that, so...

reibeatall
08-06-2012, 11:30 AM
Why would people want to read the book if they can just watch the movie?

Sarcasmorator
08-06-2012, 11:36 AM
Why would people want to read the book if they can just watch the movie?

How is this even a question? Have you never read a book that was better than the movie based on it?

Dizzy
08-06-2012, 11:39 AM
It's reibeatall, man.

Grignr
08-06-2012, 12:05 PM
I voted "Never" but I actually like the Dune tie-in movie poster cover (the one with two planets in the sky, no cast members) I have on a '84 paperback and the all-in-one Lord of the Rings trade paperback, where the cover is a close-up of the ring on Sauron's black hand.

Klatrymadon
08-06-2012, 12:40 PM
I voted 'Never!' on gut reaction (hideous things!), but yeah, if these covers get someone to pick up a good book that they'd otherwise have missed, then they can't be all bad. I just hope this doesn't produce a generation of people who think film tie-ins are or should be literature's highest aspiration - that novels are films that don't move. :p

ThornGhost
08-06-2012, 12:47 PM
Man I srs don't even care. Srs.

If I could buy a book for the regular price with the original cover or the same book with the movie poster that has a big ol' picture of Johnny Depp on the cover and a little explosion thing that says "Now a major motion picture starring Johnny Depp!" and another one that says "Try the McJohnny Depp at McDonalds for a limited time!" for a dollar less, I'd totally get the version with the ads and use the dollar I save for a tasty-ass McJohnny Depp.

The original cover is just an ad itself, completely divorced from the original intent of the author. It's not like Haruki Murakami is sitting in the graphic designer's studio saying "Oh hell yeah posterize that chick's face ONE MORE TIME it totally represents her dream world". Some marketing dude somewhere found out people that like books like Murakami writes respond best to pretentious faux pop-art covers and told some other guy to make it like that to increase sales.

Grignr
08-06-2012, 12:54 PM
I didn't buy The Princess Bride novel for the longest time due to the movie cover. Eventually they reverted to a fantasy art cover that was also pretty goofy.

Daikaiju
08-06-2012, 01:33 PM
Movie posters usually doesn't work at that size. In addition, depending on how well the movie adapts the material, you may find yourself halfway through a book asking, "Why is X on the cover when Y is the bigger deal?"

Zef
08-06-2012, 01:52 PM
I would love to say "Never!" but sometimes it's the only choice I have, like when I looked up Children of Men or the single-volume edition of The Lord of the Rings. However, as much as I don't mind Sean Bean sitting on a silly-looking throne and looking constipated, I will never buy any A Song of Ice and Fire books as long as they continue to have that horrid "HBO Series!" band wrapped around the covers and spine. And since those are the only ones I can find anywhere, well...

Wolfgang
08-06-2012, 03:49 PM
Is this something people are seriously concerned about? Like honestly, no foolin'? I like legitimately good book cover design - I probably enjoy objectively tasteful book covers (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joekral/sets/72157594264351021/) more than a good percentage of the population. But if you're reading something that has a version of the cover based on the movie version of the book, chances are it wouldn't have an objectively tasteful cover to begin with. Fantasy novels certainly wouldn't.

Unless of course you're talking about something like this (http://www.movieposter.com/poster/b70-13539/Anatomy_Of_A_Murder.html) :D

Torzelbaum
08-06-2012, 04:01 PM
Try the McJohnny Depp at McDonalds for a limited time!OK, I'm curious - what's on the McJohnny Depp? (I'm assuming ham.)

RoyalApe
08-06-2012, 04:10 PM
I prefer hard back covers without jackets, so normally, I don't have to worry about this sort of thing.

teekun
08-07-2012, 12:57 AM
Ugh, screw those things.

The worst is when the movie isn't even really the name of the published work. Like seeing a copy of Stephen King's Different Seasons with The Shawshank Redemption on the cover. Not only is that not the name of the book, it's not even entirely the name of the story that was adapted!

I get why they do it, but I sure as hell don't want to own one. Thankfully, I'm really only in the business of either buying hardcovers, or ebooks so it's not really an issue for me anymore.

Eusis
08-07-2012, 01:24 AM
I actually don't mind the occasional one that look alright and (usually) won't avoid buying a book over it, but it's a practice that I dislike a lot in general. ESPECIALLY in cases where the movie is a very liberal adaption or even one that only has the name, like I, Robot (YEARS later last I checked, frustratingly) or Dante's Inferno (http://www.destructoid.com/electronic-arts-releasing-its-own-dante-s-inferno-book-160242.phtml) to move out of movies to games (and likely the only one we'll see).

Brickroad
08-07-2012, 02:53 AM
I voted "don't care". I used to care, but then I got a Kindle, and now none of my books have covers.

teg
08-07-2012, 06:07 AM
http://i.imgur.com/pxfMz.jpg



ONE MAN

SAW IT COMING

TOO BAD

HE'S NOT IN THIS BOOK

Loki
08-07-2012, 06:27 AM
Teg check out my vintage Converse.

BEAT
08-07-2012, 06:29 AM
Nice Shoes.

Patrick
08-07-2012, 08:31 AM
Teg check out my vintage Converse.

http://i.imgur.com/Gk0KN.jpg

(from our controversial friend Maddox (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=i_robot))

TE-Ryan
08-07-2012, 09:36 AM
This isn't really an issue for me, because I don't read nearly enough. I would venture to say that roughly 50% of the books I've bought over the last two years have the word(s) "GameSpite" on the cover.

Most of the other half have the word "zombie."

Tangent Vector
08-07-2012, 09:45 AM
...people that like books like Murakami writes respond best to pretentious faux pop-art covers...
Oh no, it's true!
*hangs head in shame*

ThornGhost
08-07-2012, 12:25 PM
This isn't really an issue for me, because I don't read nearly enough. I would venture to say that roughly 50% of the books I've bought over the last two years have the word(s) "GameSpite" on the cover.

Most of the other half have the word "zombie."

So would you or would you not buy this:

http://i.imgur.com/2hdgM.jpg

Dubin
08-07-2012, 12:41 PM
Now see, it's kind of hard to hate on movie covers when you've just made one that's almost better than the original cover.

Patrick
08-07-2012, 12:55 PM
Incredible.

TE-Ryan
08-27-2012, 10:38 AM
So would you or would you not buy this:

http://i.imgur.com/2hdgM.jpg

Fuck yes.

Daikaiju
08-27-2012, 01:45 PM
So would you or would you not buy this:

http://i.imgur.com/2hdgM.jpg

2 copies, day one

keele864
08-27-2012, 08:03 PM
I wanted to say "never," but I occasionally pick up movie tie-in editions. I have a copy of Atonement with a movie poster cover I picked up in an airport, and I really like the movie cover of True Grit, which is meant to look like a nineteenth-century text-only broadside poster, not a typical film poster.

madhair60
08-28-2012, 02:36 AM
As long as the words are the same I couldn't give a shit.

Odin
08-28-2012, 09:59 AM
I'm not a fan, but when you want to buy a book to read the "real thing" before the latest adaptation hits, I don't usually have much choice from my local bookstores.

teg
09-07-2012, 08:52 AM
So I just picked up the first volume of Osamu Tezuka's Message to Adolf today, and remembered this thread. When this story was originally translated (under the title of "Adolf") it had covers that looked exactly as hilariously out of place as if they had been movie posters.

http://i.imgur.com/Kbl6k.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/k4w10.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kZ3C0.jpg


I forget how many of these there are, but they all look like this.

Mara
09-07-2012, 10:09 AM
I generally don't like them, and try not to buy them unless I have no other choice (Memoirs of a Geisha comes to mind). If it's a book I don't have a special attachment to, then I don't mind all that much, but if it's a book I care about, I make a point to not get the movie cover.

Adrenaline
09-09-2012, 07:06 AM
I got a copy of Cloud Atlas because of the Idle Thumbs book club, and it didn't have any images from the movie on the cover, but it did have a little note that it was coming out soon. Which is still annoying, but tolerable.

keele864
09-09-2012, 08:23 PM
I got a copy of Cloud Atlas because of the Idle Thumbs book club, and it didn't have any images from the movie on the cover, but it did have a little note that it was coming out soon. Which is still annoying, but tolerable.

After the trailer came out, Random House decided to print twenty-five thousand copies of the book to cope with increased demand (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444840104577553512716197778.html). There is a film tie-in edition coming, but I'm not sure it's been released yet.

Vega
09-15-2012, 09:09 PM
In the years the LotR movies ran, didn't the books sell ten times as well as in other years? One questionable still image is a small price to pay for all that unquestionable reading.

Odin
09-17-2012, 09:27 PM
In the years the LotR movies ran, didn't the books sell ten times as well as in other years? One questionable still image is a small price to pay for all that unquestionable reading.

I know they sold copies to me because I wanted to re-read them before the movies but didn't want to subject my uncle's paperbacks that he'd had since his college days to the rigors of my backpack and campus life.

keele864
09-18-2012, 09:02 PM
In the years the LotR movies ran, didn't the books sell ten times as well as in other years? One questionable still image is a small price to pay for all that unquestionable reading.

And I am sure Houghton Mifflin Harcourt is very excited that The Hobbit is coming to theaters this year. The bookstore promos have already launched and there's now a movie tie-in edition.

Dhroo
09-18-2012, 09:05 PM
As long as bookstores keep carrying that awesome green leatherbound edition of The Hobbit, the publisher can print all the damn movie covers they want.

Grignr
09-19-2012, 06:24 AM
And I am sure Houghton Mifflin Harcourt is very excited that The Hobbit is coming to theaters this year. The bookstore promos have already launched and there's now a movie tie-in edition.

My wife would definitely be interested in a Martin Freeman/Benedict Cumberbatch movie poster cover, even if it's not perfectly movie-accurate.

Adrenaline
09-19-2012, 04:26 PM
I'm sure sales for books go up when movies based on them come out even if you don't change the covers!

Bongo Bill
09-19-2012, 04:32 PM
Solution: buy all books before the movie rights are sold.

teg
09-21-2012, 07:12 AM
I'm gonna' write a book called "Soon to be a Major Motion Picture" and ruin it for everybody.

Red Silvers
09-21-2012, 10:41 AM
Even if the TV series didn't follow the books AT ALL, I still like
http://www.sword-of-truth.com/sot/covers/wizards_first_rule_new.jpg
more than
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Wizard%27s_First_Rule.jpg

Though I suppose
http://thereadingcafe.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Wizards_first_rule.jpg
is okay.

Büge
09-21-2012, 12:33 PM
I like the third one more than the first two because it's a piece by Keith Parkinson and Keith Parkinson is awesome.

But Terry Goodkind is a Grand Wizard of the Self-Important Leaky Douchebag Society, so it tears me up that Keith Parkinson did some fantastic artwork for him.

Tomm Guycot
09-26-2012, 06:21 PM
I'd prefer NOT to buy the movie version, but sometimes it's unavoidable so whatever, it's a thing.

However it REALLY bothered me when they changed the title of "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" into "Blade Runner".

REALLY bothered me.

Seriously wtf is that

Bongo Bill
09-26-2012, 06:38 PM
"Blade Runner" was already a story! It was about scalpel smugglers!

Loki
09-26-2012, 06:49 PM
Any cover with "Terry Goodkind" on it is already terrible.

Zef
09-26-2012, 09:18 PM
So what IS a wizard's first rule? "Never act incautiously when confronting little bald wrinkly smiling men"?

Mightyblue
09-26-2012, 10:37 PM
I forget, but they're all pithy little things that only become important when the narrative demands they become important so the main character can have his big epiphany and save the day, or so I recall.

Olli T
09-27-2012, 01:21 AM
It was something like "people will believe things they want to believe in", which was said to imply that magic is all really just bullshitting people, but then the hero becomes the Ultimate Wizard-KingEmperor with Magic That Can Do Anything (as long as he wants it real bad) AND the Cosmic Hero of Truth and Justice and The Sword That Cuts Anything (and the savior of Free Maket from the Evil Tyranny of Mind-Control Socialism Where Everyone Gets Their Due Share of Slavery)

Karzac
09-27-2012, 02:35 PM
The Wizard's First Rule is "People will believe any lie if they want it to be true or fear that it is true."

I'm ashamed that I know that.

Octopus Prime
09-27-2012, 06:46 PM
So what IS a wizard's first rule? "Never act incautiously when confronting little bald wrinkly smiling men"?

1. A Wizard must not harm a human, or through inaction, allow a human to come to harm
2. There is NO SUCH THING as Wizard Fight Club
3. You must absolutely never feed a Wizard after midnight.
4. [classified]

Zef
09-27-2012, 09:33 PM
Octo wins.

He wins everything.

Loki
09-27-2012, 09:44 PM
All this time I thought it was Wizard's First Rule, like it was his first time on the throne or something.

Olli T
09-28-2012, 03:26 AM
All this time I thought it was Wizard's First Rule, like it was his first time on the throne or something.

Surprisingly, that also works.

keele864
09-28-2012, 08:20 PM
I'm gonna' write a book called "Soon to be a Major Motion Picture" and ruin it for everybody.

Kind of like the time someone titled a book Winner of the National Book Award (http://www.amazon.com/Winner-National-Book-Award-Weather/dp/031242423X/ref=tmm_pap_title_0)

EDIT: Re: Goodkind: I picked up his first book when I was in fifth grade. I stopped reading it when the heroes use magic to make the evil rapist villain cut off his own testicles and eat them. The forces of good applaud. If I'd been a bit older, I probably would have been turned off by all the kinky torture sex too...

Büge
09-28-2012, 10:25 PM
EDIT: Re: Goodkind: I picked up his first book when I was in fifth grade. I stopped reading it when the heroes use magic to make the evil rapist villain cut off his own testicles and eat them. The forces of good applaud. If I'd been a bit older, I probably would have been turned off by all the kinky torture sex too...

That's about par for the course. Later on in the series, the protagonist sends an army to cut down a group of evil pacifists.

TE-Ryan
09-29-2012, 10:10 PM
evil pacifists.

What are they gonna do? Guilt trip you to death?

Daikaiju
10-07-2012, 01:27 PM
That's about par for the course. Later on in the series, the protagonist sends an army to cut down a group of evil pacifists.

My knee-jerk response is "WHAT?"


But please tell me there's some context to that.

Olli T
10-07-2012, 01:47 PM
But please tell me there's some context to that.

The pacifists are unamerican

MCBanjoMike
10-11-2012, 07:57 AM
Wizard's First Rule

Oh my god, I read that book and I had totally forgotten about it. Looking up the story on Wikipedia, it looks like the bad guy's first name is Darken? Christ, why did I waste so much of my adolescence reading bad fantasy novels?

keele864
10-11-2012, 08:02 AM
Christ, why did I waste so much of my adolescence reading bad fantasy novels?

TT could probably put together a support group for people with similarly wasted youths.

MCBanjoMike
10-11-2012, 08:57 AM
TT could probably put together a support group for people with similarly wasted youths.

"Show us on the doll where Piers Anthony touched you."