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Zodar
02-27-2008, 04:41 PM
considering how much we love these horrible things let's go WEBCOMIC and have a WEBCOMIC thread for WEBCOMICS

ANYWAY:
-kc green is really cool, (http://www.rumblo.com/) and so are the custom comics he's customing! (http://www.rumblo.com/cc/comics/)
-anders loves maria is really well written and radical! (http://anderslovesmaria.reneengstrom.com/) (might be nsfw, who knoooows)
-do you like comics? fun? octopus pie might just be your thing! (http://www.octopuspie.com/)
-nothing sad about these pictures! of children! (the children are sad (it's a good comic)) (http://picturesforsadchildren.com/)
-we are all familiar with this copper gaming plaza! it's a pretty swell deal! (http://www.penny-arcade.com/)
-some people consider this to be pretty good! (http://www.xkcd.com/) i am not one of them, but whatever floats your complex mathematical equation!
-Suckin' Dick Bought This Van (http://achewood.com/index.php?date=04292002)
-DO NOT BE ALARMED, powerup comics (http://www.drunkduck.com/Powerup_Comics/) is clever satire. we are sorry for any outrageous nerd hyperbole that it wrought on your eyes
-yes, we know, kate beaton is really great (http://harkavagrant.com/)

SO:
-there is nothing new or interesting to say about CAD, feel free to prove me wrong

OKAY:
-at the end of our last thrilling episode, (http://www.toastyfrog.com/talkingtime/showthread.php?t=2936&page=6) we were engaged in a thrilling bout of textual fisticuffs! is XKCD genuinely funny, or pedantic nerd nonsense? does this chart make any sense, and if so, who honestly cares? (http://community.livejournal.com/randompictures/3171503.html) read on to find the exciting conclusion!

blinkpen
02-27-2008, 04:48 PM
I haven't been keeping up with many comics lately, but one diamond in the rough that demands my attention is Wonderella (http://www.webcomicsnation.com/justinpie/wonderella/series.php).

http://www.webcomicsnation.com/memberimages/4_copy3.gif

Octopus Prime
02-27-2008, 04:53 PM
Wonderella makes me smile, so does 8-Bit Theater (http://www.nuklearpower.com/). And honestly, I'm surprised to have never seen it mentioned (in good or ill) in any of the many Webcomic thread I've e'er seen here.

Also: The Good Doctor (http://www.drmcninja.com/) is among my very most favoritest.

mopinks
02-27-2008, 04:55 PM
I only read like two or three webcomics regularly, but kc green has the magic touch. even his less funny comics are still funny to look at!

in other words I LIKE COMICS WITH FUNNY PICTURES

shivam
02-27-2008, 05:01 PM
8 bit theatre hasnt been good for about 400 pages now.

cortbassist89
02-27-2008, 05:01 PM
I love the first ~100 episodes of 8-Bit Theater, but honestly, it started going downhill fast imo.

Plus, it helped create the idea that anyone can pull off a sprite comic. Which is so obviously untrue.

That said, Black Mage is awesome.

Zodar
02-27-2008, 05:05 PM
damn son if we're gonna talk about good wonderella strips then yo
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8109/79copy1br1.png

and clevinger is a good dude, and atomic robo's definite proof that he's a good writer, but i hope he follows through with his plan to bring 8bit to a close. it's only got so much steam, and it's been running dangerously low for a decent while now.

although, if you look at LFG you can see that he could be doing much worse, so rude chubbies to him

Guy
02-27-2008, 05:07 PM
Nobody Scores (http://nobodyscores.loosenutstudio.com/)
Dresden Codak (http://dresdencodak.com/)
Three Panel Soul (http://threepanelsoul.com/)
Loli Loves Venom (http://lolilovesvenom.com/)
Dinosaur Comics (http://www.qwantz.com/)
Lucid-TV (http://lucid-tv.com/)

There's also Wasted Talent (http://www.spikecomix.com/), an autobiographical webcomic by a mechanical engineer who lives in Vancouver. It's really mostly inside jokes for her friends, but it's sort of cute anyway.

Kishi
02-27-2008, 05:12 PM
I read Horribleville with incredible enthusiasm until Green stopped updating it, and after a while, I stopped checking back to see if he'd resumed. I guess I had the right idea, though, since it seems not to exist at all anymore.

cortbassist89
02-27-2008, 05:13 PM
http://www.wastedtalent.ca/comics/Misc/wt_silly_hats.jpg

I must say, I already love this thread. I love finding awesome webcomics.

Zodar
02-27-2008, 05:23 PM
I read Horribleville with incredible enthusiasm until Green stopped updating it, and after a while, I stopped checking back to see if he'd resumed. I guess I had the right idea, though, since it seems not to exist at all anymore.

right now he is patching up his website, in the meantime read Droop or his custom comics since they're equally great

also i know i said "no buckley" but damn how could i not post
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5359/1204101509126zz8.jpg

Excitemike
02-27-2008, 05:32 PM
Confession time: I hate about 98% of webcomics I've seen. I thought it was the rampant unproffesionalism, but I think there's something else beneath the surface. So I'm going to try some of these suggestions and maybe figure it out. But not tonight because ironically I have a webcomic to finish.

Savathun
02-27-2008, 05:33 PM
I like Tim's post about the comic,* where he thinks he's going to say things so incredibly profound, earth-shattering and dangerous about forums that he might rock people to the core!

*The actual comic. I went to his site just to find out if he really DID post that, because, I mean... considering the turds he has posted, I just don't know anymore.

Brickroad
02-27-2008, 06:20 PM
My favorite is still Girly (http://girlyyy.com/), but man does Lesnick whine a lot on his LJ!

(Of course I find LJ whining irresistible so whatevs.)

Also, if you don't want to read the most adorable comic ever, don't click this link (http://countyoursheep.com/) which leads to Count Your Sheep.

Kishi
02-27-2008, 06:23 PM
I liked Lesnick's artwork before he dove headfirst into chunky blotchy lines forever. His earlier work may have been ANIMU, but at least it didn't make me feel like my screen needed cleaning.

Zodar
02-27-2008, 06:26 PM
personally the crazy chunkylines are my favorite part about girly, but his stuff around comic 200 was a pretty good balance between crisp and crazy

Also, if you don't want to read the most adorable comic ever, don't click this link (http://countyoursheep.com/) which leads to Count Your Sheep.

this is pretty okay but the art gradually gets worse for some reason? also the sheep pretty much points out the joke at the end of each strip

mopinks
02-27-2008, 06:40 PM
my favorite thing about Girly is how it's the only popular webcomic with a link to my webcomic! :'< seriously, I get more referrals from Girly than every other referrer combined, times two.

the distant second place referrer is Supah Nario Bros (http://www.drunkduck.com/supahnariobros/), which I find totally charming and adorable even though I really really hate Naruto.

Parish
02-27-2008, 06:44 PM
Whether or not you like his line work, the color stuff Lesnick was doing a few months back was absolutely gorgeous. Plus, the extended surreality of those strips reminded me of really ancient classics like Little Nemo or Krazy Kat. But I guess the amount of effort they required and lack of financial rewards crushed his soul or something, because now he's back to B&W. Understandable, but a pity all the same.

philliam
02-27-2008, 08:52 PM
I like this thread this is a good thread.

As for Lesnick, I think his current style is my favorite so far. My main problem with his move towards a more cartoony style that it was way too chaotic looking. Sometimes it was hard for me to understand what was going on in some panels. But damn doesn't his comic have some great solid line work.

philliam
02-27-2008, 08:54 PM
whoops i thought this was in active media that why i was all primp and proper,

dick dicks diksc tim buckley sucks massive amoutns of dicks dicks dicks dicks

Merus
02-27-2008, 09:08 PM
I like Tim's post about the comic,* where he thinks he's going to say things so incredibly profound, earth-shattering and dangerous about forums that he might rock people to the core!

*The actual comic. I went to his site just to find out if he really DID post that, because, I mean... considering the turds he has posted, I just don't know anymore.
I cannot work out exactly what Tim Buckley's point in the comic is. Is he suggesting that he fell in a pool of pure talent and thus Penny Arcade tell him to rack off in Elizabethian dialogue? It's rare that other creators tell creators of works that are genuinely good to go away, quite the opposite in fact.

Is he saying that he has 'facial diversity'? And that Penny Arcade does not?

It's just... I mean, has his ego actually started warping the space-time continuum?

Is he poking fun at himself? I didn't think he ever did that.

me am so confusedBOOMsplat

Zodar
02-27-2008, 09:16 PM
I cannot work out exactly what Tim Buckley's point in the comic is. Is he suggesting that he fell in a pool of pure talent and thus Penny Arcade tell him to rack off in Elizabethian dialogue? It's rare that other creators tell creators of works that are genuinely good to go away, quite the opposite in fact.

Is he saying that he has 'facial diversity'? And that Penny Arcade does not?

It's just... I mean, has his ego actually started warping the space-time continuum?

Is he poking fun at himself? I didn't think he ever did that.

me am so confusedBOOMsplat

that was an edit of buckley's latest strip

Red Hedgehog
02-27-2008, 09:37 PM
It's hard for me to find any webcomic that I'm genuinely interested in "following". It's hard because 98% of them are crap.

Merus
02-27-2008, 10:00 PM
that was an edit of buckley's latest strip
satire confuses merus

Tavir
02-27-2008, 10:31 PM
My main problem with his move towards a more cartoony style that it was way too chaotic looking. Sometimes it was hard for me to understand what was going on in some panels.

Agreed. While I liked the detailed landscapes and the colors that Lesnick used/drew, what really threw me off were the facial expressions. It was as if in each panel he was purposely trying to contort the faces of his characters into a physically impossible expression, solely for the purpose of demonstrating the power of comics to do what can't be done in reality (actually, if you follow up with his LJ, you know that that was precisely what he was going for. In the end, it was good experimentation, but I'm glad we're back to something a little more normal.

As for his whining, what is there left to say? It slightly pisses me off that he seems to think working hard at something for several years is automatic grounds for being rewarded for the effort. "Here is my work!! WHY DON'T PEOPLE LOVE IT?????" I love his comic, but reading his editorials and criticisms of the cartoon industry/webcomic community has almost turned me off from his website (and some of them are unavoidable, as he posts them directly on the site, sometimes even as a comic).

I feel like I will be the only person who still does, but goddammit, I still read Megatokyo (http://www.megatokyo.com). For those who abandoned this comic a long time ago for it's snail's pace, you may be interested to know that a lot of the characters have actually developed quite a bit. Piro has grown a small spine and shown confidence in situations and even demonstrated social skills to a certain degree (and he is comically juxtaposed with the otaku community, who are even sadder people than him). Kimiko has become a lot less naive and has grown into her own skin a lot more as well. Largo...is still Largo, and Erika is more or less the same, but has been given some back story. Things are slightly coming to a head in the storyline right now, leading me to believe that it is ending soon.

Healy
02-27-2008, 11:50 PM
I read Horribleville with incredible enthusiasm until Green stopped updating it, and after a while, I stopped checking back to see if he'd resumed. I guess I had the right idea, though, since it seems not to exist at all anymore.

That's because his site imploded after getting over like, a million-billion hits. He's since moved the site to a new server.

Anyway, on the subject of relatively unknown good webcomics I suggest you guys check out this new gaming webcomic! (http://www.eegra.com/show/sub/do/browse/cat/comics/id/4)(NSFW, at times.) I really like the latest one with proper British Pacman.

Kishi
02-28-2008, 12:29 AM
That comic embodies everything that is horrible and unnerving about European art.

locit
02-28-2008, 01:26 AM
White Ninja (http://www.whiteninjacomics.com/comics.shtml) is pretty good. So is Dr. McNinja (http://drmcninja.com/index.html). Filibuster Cartoons (http://www.filibustercartoons.com/) is really great, and the guy who does it wrote an in-depth analysis of Legend of the Mystical Ninja (http://www.filibustercartoons.com/ninja.htm) and a fun briefer on Nintendo censorship (http://www.filibustercartoons.com/Nintendo.php), so that puts him miles ahead of any other political cartoonist I know of. I'm also a sap for Girl Genius (http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/index.php) and Sam and Fuzzy (http://www.samandfuzzy.com/). Anyone who likes Dresden Codak might think about giving Rice Boy (http://riceboy.jho-tan.com/) a chance if they haven't already. Its generally stark aesthetic stands in stark contrast to the former's complex style and layout, but has much of the same appeal without treading too close to unintentional haughtiness.

Oh yeah, Elsie Hooper (http://www.elsiehooper.com/index.htm).

Brickroad
02-28-2008, 02:47 AM
Actually wait. Girly isn't my favorite comic anymore. Somehow Gunnerkrigg Court (http://gunnerkrigg.com/index2.php) totally slipped my mind.

That's how low-key this comic is. It's wonderful, but it doesn't shout at you. It tells a great story without being pretentious or self-involved. The author doesn't use his website as a vehicle for commentary on, well, anything. In fact I don't even think I know the author's name.

I'll totally forget about this comic (like I just did!) for a couple weeks at a time, and then go back and catch up. Honestly I think that's the best way to read it, since then you get the story in great big chunks and not tiny little snippets.

Zodar
02-28-2008, 07:41 AM
the aforementioned dr. mcninja, minus, gunnerkrigg, eegra and riceboy are all indeed awesome

also worthy of note is the abominable, (http://horhaus.com/abominable/2007/06/20/episode-1/) which is probably one of the most well-drawn and clever comics i've seen on the web!

Sprite
02-28-2008, 08:47 AM
I pretty much read comedy-serials at the moment, Schlock Mercenary (http://www.schlockmercenary.com/) and Goats (http://www.goats.com/) and Skin Horse (http://www.skin-horse.com/) andGirl Genius (http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/). Anyone have any other serial suggestions?

Also, I was wondering what you TT webcartoonists think is the best way to start publishing a webcomic, with a personal website or one of the free communities? Right now I'm leaning towards Webcomics Nation (http://www.webcomicsnation.com/).

(I'd also very much like to read everyone's webcomics)

Steve
02-28-2008, 08:55 AM
I feel like I will be the only person who still does, but goddammit, I still read Megatokyo (http://www.megatokyo.com).

I actually still do as well, although mostly from sheer inertia, as it's one of the first webcomics I actually started reading. I've found that by far the best way of reading this is to ignore it completely for about a month, and then read the backlog (of 3-4 pages. Zing!) in one fell swoop. The characters do actually develop a bit, though I have to admit that Gallagher has a nasty habit of taking this way too far and giving every minor character and their dog a backstory and romantic interest that conveniently overlaps with the main plot. Sometimes he even does this at the expense of the main characters - somewhere along the way, Largo went from an eccentric but functional alcoholic with a somewhat loose grip on reality to a more 1-dimensional delusional sociopath (I can't help but think that the departure of Rodney Caston had something to do with that transition). Overall, though, solid enough.

On that note, I also still read Sluggy Freelance (http://www.sluggy.com/). To shamelessly steal from remarks made by Parish a while back: sure, the art is kind of mediocre and the writing a bit inconsistent, but Abrams has totally nailed the characters by now, and he is extraordinarily good at juggling long-running plot threads (sometimes over intervals of years) without resorting to a snail's-paced update schedule. It's at least worth a minute or two of my day.

philliam
02-28-2008, 10:36 AM
also worthy of note is the abominable, (http://horhaus.com/abominable/2007/06/20/episode-1/) which is probably one of the most well-drawn and clever comics i've seen on the web!

this. is. AWESOME>>!!!!

Octopus Prime
02-28-2008, 11:31 AM
I pretty much read comedy-serials at the moment, Schlock Mercenary (http://www.schlockmercenary.com/) and Goats (http://www.goats.com/) and Skin Horse (http://www.skin-horse.com/) andGirl Genius (http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/). Anyone have any other serial suggestions?

Also, I was wondering what you TT webcartoonists think is the best way to start publishing a webcomic, with a personal website or one of the free communities? Right now I'm leaning towards Webcomics Nation (http://www.webcomicsnation.com/).

(I'd also very much like to read everyone's webcomics)

Well, there's the already oft-mentioned Dr. McNinja.

Sprite
02-28-2008, 12:35 PM
Well, there's the already oft-mentioned Dr. McNinja.

Oh, yeah. I read that too. I just typically pick it up once a month to read a whole story instead of three times a week to read just one page.

Savathun
02-28-2008, 12:44 PM
this. is. AWESOME>>!!!!

It was at this (http://horhaus.com/abominable/2007/07/18/04/) point that I was won over.

JohnB
02-28-2008, 12:54 PM
For me it was the skunk giving a sly thumbs-up after his product placement ad. HILARIOUS. I'm hooked!

Brickroad
02-28-2008, 12:55 PM
The yeti comic is pretty insanely great. I love his little fox friend.

locit
02-28-2008, 01:55 PM
I think someone namedropped it in the religion thread already, but for those who aren't following our civil sortie, Sinfest is a wonderful, wonderful comic. Case (http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2699) in (http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2714) point (http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2732).

JohnB
02-28-2008, 02:00 PM
After faithfully reading SinFest for at least 3 years, I just had to drop it. (Same with 8-bit theater, which I did in fact name-drop in the last thread about webcomics). I couldn't bear to see another storyline where Slick gets this close to not fucking things up with Whatshername (Monique?). The lack of character development in the end killed it for me- storyline after storyline of the same shit. It was just too much. I always enjoyed a plot involving Satan (even in my pre-atheist days), so those I will laud. But otherwise... has anything changed? Should I pick it back up?

shivam
02-28-2008, 02:04 PM
Well, Sinfest is the best hindu webcomic out there, and i read it religiously. Its not really a comic you read for story, but more for good feeling. It's pretty much my consistant favorite.

Lately, though, gunnerkrigg court has been the super amazing story comic of forever.

locit
02-28-2008, 02:20 PM
He introduced Buddha a while back, and that was enough to keep me from dropping it. The little guy sort of served as a shot in the arm to the series's development. The human cast is actually developing little by little (I haven't seen a Slick-Monique romance plot in I don't know how long), and Buddha has been a fun catalyst to throw into the more religiously themed strips.

Still, I wouldn't go as far as to say you should get back into it if you really lost interest so completely. For me the sheer variety of stuff he pulls is interesting enough for me to stick around through the repetitive (kanji strips (http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2302), for example), even when some of his characters need to stay shallow to keep them useful as archetypes.

I'm also a sucker for his bouncy style shifts, even within the same strip- the last panel of the one I linked to with the Dragon and Buddha kills me.

Chu
02-28-2008, 02:47 PM
Woo, thanks for recommending The Abominable Charles Christopher, Zodar. I loved it and now I've got it bookmarked.

Just about every comic I currently read and used to read has been linked to already, so I guess the only thing I really have to offer is Dragon Tails (http://www.dragon-tails.com/) (absolutely no relation to the PBS kids' show). It's a lighthearted gag strip featuring a group of young dragon siblings. It's been running for quite some time, and it just came back from a long hiatus. Currently it's in the midst of a fun RPG parody, but most of the storylines aren't like that.

tungwene
02-28-2008, 03:12 PM
I am always overwhelmed by a compelling need to name drop Lackadaisy Cats (http://www.lackadaisycats.com/archive.php). I don't read webcomics anymore really (which is convenient because Lackadaisy takes forever to update). I was really into them in highschool but a series of events involving the a ton of comics I was following ending, moving onto subscription only sites, and being put on permanent hiatus turned me off from the medium almost completely.

Brickroad
02-28-2008, 03:15 PM
Lackadaisy Cats (http://www.lackadaisycats.com/archive.php)

I was sold after the first page. A cat running a speakeasy? Why is this guy not a millionaire!?

Phat
02-28-2008, 03:33 PM
I was sold after the first page. A cat running a speakeasy? Why is this guy not a millionaire!?
Oh my good goodness that artwork is incredible.

PapillonReel
02-28-2008, 03:45 PM
I used to be hella into webcomics, but I gave up on a lot of them after finding out most of them were made my jerks, sucked outright, or both.

I still read Buttercup Festival, (http://www.buttercupfestival.com/) though.

ringworm
02-28-2008, 03:46 PM
I am always overwhelmed by a compelling need to name drop Lackadaisy Cats (http://www.lackadaisycats.com/archive.php).
You dick, there goes the rest of my workday. And probably tomorrow's too.

Zodar
02-28-2008, 03:53 PM
sinfest is garfield with swearing and "atheist deal w/ it" religious edginess

art's good though!

Kishi
02-28-2008, 04:52 PM
You dick, there goes the rest of my workday. And probably tomorrow's too.

This is definitely the kind of comic that takes twice as long as normal, since I spend at least as much time analyzing the artwork as I do reading the text.

Merus
02-28-2008, 05:26 PM
After faithfully reading SinFest for at least 3 years, I just had to drop it. (Same with 8-bit theater, which I did in fact name-drop in the last thread about webcomics). I couldn't bear to see another storyline where Slick gets this close to not fucking things up with Whatshername (Monique?). The lack of character development in the end killed it for me- storyline after storyline of the same shit. It was just too much. I always enjoyed a plot involving Satan (even in my pre-atheist days), so those I will laud. But otherwise... has anything changed? Should I pick it back up?
I check in on it from time to time, and about six months ago Slick decided that he was a jerk and that he didn't deserve Monique unless he grew up, leaving his pig friend on the periphery in the process. It's still pretty slow, but I think there's some character development going on there.

Of the comics that haven't yet been mentioned, I read Basic Instructions (http://www.basicinstructions.net/), Order of the Stick (http://www.giantitp.com/Comics.html) and Something Positive (http://www.somethingpositive.net/). Websnark's also lurched back into life and is doing a feature on a selection of cartoonists and their strengths and weaknesses. He actually seems mostly right on so far, in that there's a lot of decent strips he still reads but he articulates exactly why they're not awesome.

juanfrugalj
02-28-2008, 10:40 PM
this is pretty okay but the art gradually gets worse for some reason? also the sheep pretty much points out the joke at the end of each strip

The only art problem I see is just the inking. For some reason, it looks shaky these days.

Zodar
02-28-2008, 10:48 PM
The only art problem I see is just the inking. For some reason, it looks shaky these days.

i think the problem is that the artist went from coloring everything with the brush on another layer, which is more time consuming, to using the paint bucket, which is much easier but doesn't look nearly as good

Loki
02-29-2008, 11:09 AM
I
I still read Buttercup Festival, (http://www.buttercupfestival.com/) though.

I didn't realize that there were new comics.

Yes! One of my favorite strips is back!

Paul le Fou
02-29-2008, 12:27 PM
Most of these have been mentioned offhand, but Minus (http://www.kiwisbybeat.com/minus.html), Rice Boy (http://riceboy.jho-tan.com/) and Gunnerkrigg Court (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/index2.php) are some of the best comics on the web right now. I'm also partial to Dresden Codak (http://dresdencodak.com/). Lackadaisy Cats is indeed gorgeous, but updates like once every two months or something.

For something not yet mentioned, might I recommed Lucid TV (http://www.lucid-tv.com/). If you like your humor like your men, black and strong and deeply offensive, you'll love Lucid TV.

I'm also partial to Scary Go Round (http://www.scarygoround.com/).

Guy
02-29-2008, 02:16 PM
For something not yet mentioned, might I recommed Lucid TV (http://www.lucid-tv.com/). If you like your humor like your men, black and strong and deeply offensive, you'll love Lucid TV.

I totally mentioned it! Don't you take that away from me!

widdershins
02-29-2008, 03:32 PM
I still read Buttercup Festival, (http://www.buttercupfestival.com/) though.

I remember reading that in my college newspaper; I think he went to my school.

Paul le Fou
02-29-2008, 09:44 PM
Dear Guy,

I'm sorry.

~Paul

Stephen
02-29-2008, 10:30 PM
Anyway, on the subject of relatively unknown good webcomics I suggest you guys check out this new gaming webcomic! (http://www.eegra.com/show/sub/do/browse/cat/comics/id/4)(NSFW, at times.) I really like the latest one with proper British Pacman.

I can't even begin to explain how good this comic makes me feel. I find this one (http://www.eegra.com/show/sub/do/browse/cat/comics/id/8) particularly charming.

Healy
03-01-2008, 10:31 PM
Holy shit, I was lurking in the Gaming Webcomics thread over at Something Awful when this one comic called Minus World (http://www.webcomicsnation.com/mudron/minusworld/series.php?view=archive&chapter=14951&mpe=1&step=1) was posted. "Hey," I said to myself, "don't I remember that comic from somewhere?" Turns out the dude who made it used to post at the old Talking Time and he posted some pages of it there. Sort of awesome that I remembered something so obscure.

Zodar
03-05-2008, 05:15 PM
posting to confirm that everything Elio makes is fantastimundo (http://elio.livejournal.com/) without exception

check them out!

Kishi
03-05-2008, 05:21 PM
I get a '70s vibe from this. Highly rad.

SDMX
03-14-2008, 01:36 AM
Wow, Wasted Talent is the new Crap I Drew on my Lunch Break, which is good, because I needed that one to be replaced.

I've also been sucked into Templar, AZ (http://www.templaraz.com/) for quite a while and purchased the first book. I paid a little extra for a sketch behind the front cover and while I later lamented the complexity of my request as selfish, the artist took a little extra time and went apeshit overboard with it, so I'm pretty much a reader fo lyfe unless the shit goes down the toilet.

Sheana
03-14-2008, 01:56 AM
Oh yeah, Templar! I read that 'un for sure.

I can't remember, does anybody else here read Starslip Crisis (http://www.starslip.com/2008/01/24/future-war-part-i/)? If not, you should.

Healy
03-14-2008, 03:11 AM
I was going to post this in the Random Images thread, but since this thread is alive again I might as well post it here. It's a comparison of the wordiness of Ctrl-Alt-Delete and Penny Arcade.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8533/cadvspennyarcadeqr3.png
(Linking to it 'cuz it's freakin' HUGE.)

Copy-and-pasting this from Something Awful was probably the lowest work-put-in to actual-usefulness ratio my life has ever known.

Healy
03-14-2008, 07:12 PM
Aaaand I think just killed another thread. Crap.

Well, I guess I could start off this thread revival by giving some of the backstory behind the image I just posted. You see, it all started when somebody posted a pic from and a link to something criticizing Tim Buckley's comic writing skills on the CAD forums. (It was the Zero Punctuation about Mass Effect, in case you're wondering. Basically it said his style was way too wordy.) Before the thread got inevitably locked, somebody posted that Penny Arcade's comics could have just as many words in them as CAD did/does, without CAD's extra panel. YCS, who were lurking the thread, violently disagreed with this statement, and one guy actually went to all the trouble to compare both strips' wordiness, which led to the image linked to above.

The best part of the story: one guy from YCS posted that in the CAD forums to see what kind of reaction it would get. Tim Buckley sees the thread, locks it, then goes on his merry way. About five minutes laters he finally realizes that it's a diss against him and deletes the thread, while also banning the original poster.

Ahem.

So, uh, how about those webcomics, people? Pretty swell, huh?

VsRobot
03-14-2008, 09:14 PM
Anyone who spends even a minute arguing about CAD on the internet needs to get spayed and/or neutered.

Zodar
03-14-2008, 11:42 PM
this (http://disneycomics.free.fr/Ducks/Rosa/last/01.html) is a comic, and it's on the web, but it's definitely not a webcomic! it's an old, fantastic origin story for Scrooge McDuck that disney produced in the 90s. it is a reminder that Scrooge McDuck is a badass motherfucker and among the best things to spring from disney's loins

EDIT: oops, here is the link that has the rest of the series http://disneycomics.free.fr/Ducks/Rosa/index_stories_rosa_date.html

Sheana
03-15-2008, 03:05 AM
Oh man, The Life & Times Of Scrooge McDuck. I totally read that thing as a kid, and was sad I never managed to find all the issues. That story was a surprising little bit of sheer brilliance from Disney. I love ol' Scroogey.

Healy
03-15-2008, 05:15 PM
Yeah, those comics are pretty brilliant. They also have the Carl Barks comics on there, if you look around.

Jeanie
03-15-2008, 06:27 PM
Oh man Don Rosa's "Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" is one of my all times favorites. The detail he puts in his art is awesome.

Kishi
03-15-2008, 08:20 PM
I love anyone who documents the centuries-long history of a clan of Scottish cartoon ducks with the serious care and detail of a real-life biographer.

Zodar
03-15-2008, 08:55 PM
haha i just got to the part where he meets teddy roosevelt

this comic is really goddamn great!

Jeanie
03-15-2008, 09:02 PM
If it's for the first time, well just wait until they meet again...

Sheana
03-16-2008, 02:16 AM
Anything that involves Teddy Roosevelt automatically gets bonus Awesome points.

Figure Four
03-16-2008, 03:02 AM
I just want to point out that The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck is actually in print. (http://www.amazon.com/Life-Times-Scrooge-McDuck/dp/0911903968/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205657913&sr=1-1) It's a beautiful edition with commentary by Rosa after every issue detailing both the numerous nods to the old Barks comics and info about the various international publications of the series. Seriously everyone should buy it.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to spend my weekend reading Carl Barks comics. God bless you for posting that link.

Zodar
03-16-2008, 11:34 PM
it may be on permanent-ish haitus, but rest assured that there was good in the universe, and this was its name (http://www.alessonislearned.com/)

really awesome stuff

some member here has/had an avatar from this strip, (http://www.alessonislearned.com/fool06.html) i wanna give him a high-five

Healy
03-16-2008, 11:37 PM
it may be on permanent-ish haitus, but rest assured that there was good in the universe, and this was its name (http://www.alessonislearned.com/)

really awesome stuff

I like it, but most of the later ones call to mind a Twisp and Catsby strip that took itself way too seriously. Not that they're not as good as the earlier ones, though!

Healy
03-18-2008, 11:24 AM
Whoops, killed it again.

Well, nothing gets a thread back on its feet faster than another rendition of totally awesome comics! (http://binsybaby.livejournal.com/533783.html) This totally awesome comic is about a girl, a boy, and a crow that go on a balloon ride adventure! There's a lot more to it though. Read it now!

marcalan
03-18-2008, 10:24 PM
Being a fan of Lovecraft and anime, I found this (http://www.macguff.fr/goomi/unspeakable/vault243.html) funny.

The rest are pretty good too.

Zodar
03-19-2008, 07:57 PM
dohohohoho
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/digitalwar/OPforthemasses.png

ringworm
03-19-2008, 08:13 PM
What is that? How to make Octopus Pie terrible by Tim Buckley?

Zodar
03-19-2008, 08:49 PM
What is that? How to make Octopus Pie terrible by Tim Buckley?

what is what? who is tim buckley? what does "terrible" mean? i think you need a few more dialogue bubbles to clarify things for your readers, little mister

Zodar
03-19-2008, 10:30 PM
after some careful consideration, i've decided that a stop-motion animated version of Riceboy (http://riceboy.jho-tan.com/) might be the Coolest Shit In The World

if Scott Pilgrim can get a movie Cena and that Hot Fuzz guy on board, who knows?

Healy
03-19-2008, 11:37 PM
What is that? How to make Octopus Pie terrible by Tim Buckley?

It's a rip on this discussion thread for Octopus Pie. (http://www.halfpixel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6825) I haven't read all of it yet, but most of the arguements do seem fairly illogical.

after some careful consideration, i've decided that a stop-motion animated version of Riceboy (http://riceboy.jho-tan.com/) might be the Coolest Shit In The World

if Scott Pilgrim can get a movie Cena and that Hot Fuzz guy on board, who knows?

I'd prefer a more traditional 2-D style, but then I'm very attached to the comic's painter-ly look.

Either one would probably turn out great, though.

blinkpen
03-20-2008, 01:12 AM
I just read Octupus Pie tonight and now I'm in love with it. It's incredibly charming and funny in a way I can't figure out how to describe.

Zodar
03-20-2008, 07:40 AM
It's a rip on this discussion thread for Octopus Pie. (http://www.halfpixel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6825) I haven't read all of it yet, but most of the arguements do seem fairly illogical.

this comic has a drug user, it must be advocating drugs! it's full of hipsters, so despite the fact that it's a clever rip on hipster culture, it must be shit like Questionable Content! blargh blargh blargh i'm a buttwad and i think Horribleville should change its name (TOO MISLEADING)

halfpixel is supposed to be some sort of "leading webcomic discussion forum", but man they say the craziest shit sometimes

Dart Zaidyer
03-20-2008, 10:52 AM
Halfpixel used to be pretty civil and even cerebral when it was just Kris Straub, but with PvP's community mixed in there you get people who are prone to ranting like monkeys as if they know better than the actual cartoonist. They're the same types who say PvP isn't about videogames enough or that Skull's voice is all wrong.

Zodar
03-20-2008, 11:28 AM
Halfpixel used to be pretty civil and even cerebral when it was just Kris Straub, but with PvP's community mixed in there you get people who are prone to ranting like monkeys as if they know better than the actual cartoonist. They're the same types who say PvP isn't about videogames enough or that Skull's voice is all wrong.

they're also the same type that reads PVP (heyoooooo)

Tavir
03-20-2008, 12:10 PM
This isn't really a webcomic per se, but I guess a while ago there was a Livejournal meme going around challenging people to draw 200 bad comics. I read a few attempts, but this one stood out for me, as they were actually really funny. 200 Bad Comics. (http://nedroid.com/bcpage1.html)

Zodar
03-20-2008, 01:09 PM
nedroid is really an amazing dude

as far as i know, lesnick and KC green also did 200 bad comics, dunno who started the meeem first though

Healy
03-20-2008, 01:17 PM
This isn't really a webcomic per se, but I guess a while ago there was a Livejournal meme going around challenging people to draw 200 bad comics. I read a few attempts, but this one stood out for me, as they were actually really funny. 200 Bad Comics. (http://nedroid.com/bcpage1.html)

Yeah, I've seen those. Ryan North linked to them on Dinosaur Comics. I think I like the "Never Alone" one the best.

As for good webcomics, here is a prett good one. (http://junglestudio.com/roza/index.php?date=2007-05-01) It's called "Roza", and it's about a girl with a curse who tries to get rid of it.

Makkara
03-25-2008, 09:26 AM
It's an egg! It's an egg and I am going to cook it. (http://www.katebeaton.com/Site/History_Project.html)

Comics based on historical people and events. Some are quite hilarious. The art may seem rough and childish at first glance, but it's actually awesome. If you don't see it, that's because you're not awesome enough. Fair warning: be prepared to spend more time looking stuff up on Wikipedia than reading the actual comics.

Excitemike
03-25-2008, 09:56 AM
Adriene Tomine's The Donger and Me. (http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2008/mar/in_character/donger_1.html)

nadia
03-25-2008, 10:40 AM
I don't know if this counts as a personal ego boost, a webcomic, or a "project" or what: A friend of mine is putting together a non-horrible comic (http://www.geocities.com/kattstalespinner/main.html) based on a very vague aspect of my horrible Mega Man fanfiction.

How vague? The lead girl, Katt, was mentioned a grand total of four times and never appeared once.

The comic hasn't been updated in a long time because the author's tablet broke. He just got a new one and is back at work. I hope. He's hosting it on Geocities for now, but I hope I can give him some space on Mechadrake.

I'm really curious to see how this turns out. In my fanfic, Katt's fate was a nasty one; I wasn't particularly good at unleashing my twisted nature at the right time in my writing (I'm still not). I asked the author not to be too hard on Katt. He promised things wouldn't get too terrible, but then he reminded me that this is the same fanfic wherein a bunch of kids slaughtered each other.

WHAT THE FUCK IS MY PROBLEM, INTERNET.

Zodar
03-25-2008, 10:53 AM
It's an egg! It's an egg and I am going to cook it. (http://www.katebeaton.com/Site/History_Project.html)

Comics based on historical people and events. Some are quite hilarious. The art may seem rough and childish at first glance, but it's actually awesome. If you don't see it, that's because you're not awesome enough. Fair warning: be prepared to spend more time looking stuff up on Wikipedia than reading the actual comics.

i love this stuff, and taking AP Euro makes it understandable!

my favorite one is
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8924/elizabeth2tw3.jpg

Makkara
04-03-2008, 04:41 PM
Anders ♥ Maria (http://anderslovesmaria.reneengstrom.com/)

I usually don't like relationship-based webcomics, because they tend to be hokey and romanticized. This one totally isn't. It is perhaps the most realistic and frank look at love and sexuality I've seen on the web. It's also really funny, especially when horrible things happen to the characters. Then again maybe I'm biased because it's Swedish.

Also note that while today's comic is SFW, some of them really, really aren't.

shivam
04-03-2008, 05:10 PM
hey makkuro, how widespread is english knowledge in sweden?

shivam
04-03-2008, 07:31 PM
holy crap. anders loves maria is fucking amazing. thank you makkuro.

Zodar
04-03-2008, 10:24 PM
rene engstrom can change your opinion of a character from pity to outright hate in a single page, and it never once feels unnatural or unrealistic

she really is great at writing real, flawed people

Makkara
04-04-2008, 01:01 AM
I'm glad you liked the comic. Perhaps it will improve Sweden's reputation in webcomics. Lord knows we could use it.


hey makkuro, how widespread is english knowledge in sweden?

Pretty much everyone between the ages of 15 and 50 would be able to have at least a basic conversation in English. Like the Japanese, we think English is cool. Unlike the Japanese, our language is closely related to English, our English education is good and we don't dub stuff. As a result, you see things like commercials entirely in English, without a single word of Swedish.

SDMX
04-05-2008, 06:51 AM
Linking webcomics is cool, but I really think we should do more of the talking of webcomics.

Like how I love Lesnick and his art is incredible but that every now and then he gets his anus distended and rips on other, incredibly well-written comics because their art is 'evolving' or 'progressing' like he thinks his is.

This coming from a man who couldn't write his way out of a goddamn paper bag.

Merus
04-05-2008, 07:09 AM
I don't care what people say, I think recent Penny Arcade is perhaps the best it's ever been.

Kfroog
04-05-2008, 08:03 AM
You don't care what anybody says? Even if they're agreeing (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/3/28/) with you?

Adrenaline
04-05-2008, 09:48 AM
As much as CAD is simply not funny anymore, I gotta admit what he's doing right now is pretty cool - a science fiction choose-your-own adventure where the readers vote on what happens next.

Mr. Sensible
04-05-2008, 10:14 AM
Linking webcomics is cool, but I really think we should do more of the talking of webcomics.

Like how I love Lesnick and his art is incredible but that every now and then he gets his anus distended and rips on other, incredibly well-written comics because their art is 'evolving' or 'progressing' like he thinks his is.

This coming from a man who couldn't write his way out of a goddamn paper bag.

Josh Lesnick may be the Internet's biggest inferiority complex.

Healy
04-05-2008, 10:35 AM
As much as CAD is simply not funny anymore, I gotta admit what he's doing right now is pretty cool - a science fiction choose-your-own adventure where the readers vote on what happens next.

Of the two choices he just put up, one involved investigating some spaceship and the other was listening to the distress signal of said space ship. I don't think he's putting too much trouble into the choose-your-own-adventure thing.

Mr. Sensible
04-05-2008, 10:36 AM
Of the two choices he just put up, one involved investigating some spaceship and the other was listening to the distress signal of said space ship. I don't think he's putting too much trouble into the choose-your-own-adventure thing.

Ah, so he's offering the "typical video game plot choice" here, which is to say no choice at all.

Pawelmaji
04-05-2008, 10:56 AM
Linking webcomics is cool, but I really think we should do more of the talking of webcomics.

Like how I love Lesnick and his art is incredible but that every now and then he gets his anus distended and rips on other, incredibly well-written comics because their art is 'evolving' or 'progressing' like he thinks his is.

This coming from a man who couldn't write his way out of a goddamn paper bag.

I don't mind evolving "art". However, in comics, if it changes too much too fast (or just completely stop making comics) you'll lose your readers. Honestly I think Lesnick gets bored too fast drawing the same way all the time, compounded with his frustration of getting readers to stay interested with his stuff. I do respect the man for trying, he has made some gorgeous comics.

As a reader, Substance over Style any day. It's not just words but what the comic is meant to convey. Lesnick works hard on making a better style, and I feel the meaning is lost to much of his audience, making all that extra work frivolous to the eyes of the typical reader. Kind of like how people can't get a brilliant punch-line without first reading a treatise on several subjects beforehand.

Octopus Prime
04-05-2008, 11:02 AM
For those that are interested, it looks like 8-Bit Theater has started its final arc.

And Clevinger has revealed what he's going to be following it up with.

shivam
04-05-2008, 11:25 AM
i stopped reading 8 bit well over a year ago, becuase the story had finally just given up entirely. it was funny and clever once, but that was a thousand pages ago.

Adrenaline
04-05-2008, 12:05 PM
Of the two choices he just put up, one involved investigating some spaceship and the other was listening to the distress signal of said space ship. I don't think he's putting too much trouble into the choose-your-own-adventure thing.

Well yeah, I didn't say he was doing it well.

Paul le Fou
04-05-2008, 11:13 PM
Lesnick's idea seems to be that if art isn't changing, it's not working - even if the art is already good. And while good art is relative, anyone who would rip on Achewood for a lack of evolution in the art needs a good hard smack.

And Achewood's art actually does go through some subtle changes and developments. The Mexican Magical Realism arc and the Cartilage Head arc are proof enough of that. It's just that when a comic primarily focuses on wordplay, the drawing just is not that important.

Zodar
04-05-2008, 11:35 PM
Lesnick's idea seems to be that if art isn't changing, it's not working - even if the art is already good. And while good art is relative, anyone who would rip on Achewood for a lack of evolution in the art needs a good hard smack.

why do people think he said this

lesnick loves achewood, and he's said that he thinks the comic wouldn't be nearly as good with any other art style

the man's got some over-the-top beefs with webcomic art, but he's not dumb enough to rip on Achewood's visual side

Lumber Baron
04-06-2008, 04:11 PM
i stopped reading 8 bit well over a year ago, becuase the story had finally just given up entirely. it was funny and clever once, but that was a thousand pages ago.
I gave up on 8-Bit's story a loooooooooong time ago, but I still read it. The plot's so immaterial to any of the comic's merits that it's hardly worth mentioning.

Octopus Prime
04-06-2008, 05:59 PM
I gave up on 8-Bit's story a loooooooooong time ago, but I still read it. The plot's so immaterial to any of the comic's merits that it's hardly worth mentioning.

Finally, somebody gets it!

shivam
04-06-2008, 06:22 PM
black mage hasn't done a hadoken in a thousand pages.

Merus
04-06-2008, 06:47 PM
black mage hasn't perpetuated a tired running joke in a thousand pages.

F'xd

Healy
04-08-2008, 02:09 AM
So anyway I was browsin' these forums and somebody made a thread devoted to this comic (http://www.kukuburi.com/2007/08/09/one), holy crap. It's called Kukuburi, and it's really, really good!

nadia
04-08-2008, 06:15 AM
The Professor Layton parody (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/2/13/) is my favourite PA strip to come along in ages. I keep quoting it like an asshole.


And Achewood's art actually does go through some subtle changes and developments. The Mexican Magical Realism arc and the Cartilage Head arc are proof enough of that.

Indeed, and said arcs are more than enough proof that Onstad is a very decent artist. He just has a style he likes to use (but the collective Internets art world flips out if you talk about preferring a certain style over giving anthromorphic cats and stuffed animals proper anatomy).

Guy
04-10-2008, 07:47 PM
I went back to Homestar Runner to see what I've missed after I found out that Strong Bad is getting his own Wii Ware game, and there was a rather entertaining email on the subject of webcomics. (http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail181.html)

Red Hedgehog
04-10-2008, 09:07 PM
I went back to Homestar Runner to see what I've missed after I found out that Strong Bad is getting his own Wii Ware game, and there was a rather entertaining email on the subject of webcomics. (http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail181.html)

That was so good. Put a great smile on my face.

Jeanie
04-13-2008, 07:23 PM
Oh hey, Loli Loves Venom (http://lolilovesvenom.com/) hit one year old this week.

Sheana
04-24-2008, 02:24 AM
I am bringing up Kate Beaton (http://www.katebeaton.com/Site/Welcome.html) again, simply because she's awesome enough to do so and because her newest Tin Tin comic makes me think of philliam.

Zodar
04-24-2008, 02:30 AM
I am bringing up Kate Beaton (http://www.katebeaton.com/Site/Welcome.html) again, simply because she's awesome enough to do so and because her newest Tin Tin comic makes me think of philliam.

she really, really is!
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8229/peelerskm2.jpg

Savathun
04-24-2008, 02:35 AM
she really, really is!
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8229/peelerskm2.jpg

Why is she wearing a shirt made of corn?

Sheana
04-24-2008, 02:45 AM
I do believe it is plaid. Or hatching.

But a corn shirt would be quite interesting.

Savathun
04-24-2008, 02:47 AM
I would wear a corn shirt if I had one.

But I never will, and it's a hopeless dream. You have to wonder why the mind is able to come up with such wonderful things that can never exist in reality. What purpose does this serve, other than causing us pain?

Zodar
04-24-2008, 03:24 AM
i have seen a dude wearing a cornfield-pattern shirt

it looked uncomfortable

Healy
04-26-2008, 08:56 AM
I am bringing up Kate Beaton (http://www.katebeaton.com/Site/Welcome.html) again, simply because she's awesome enough to do so and because her newest Tin Tin comic makes me think of philliam.

She is awesome indeed! I think Nadia would really get a kick out of this one:

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1120/newfieoa4.jpg


*****

In other, unrelated news: Ham-Handed is back up! (http://www.starslip.com/ham/index.html) I know most of you don't give a rat's ass about this (and one of you would probably insult me for caring) but whatever! It is Tim Buckley being portrayed as a literally ham-handed hack, and that, in my book, is wonderful. Be sure to check out Jeff Rowland's; it's probably the best.

Octopus Prime
04-26-2008, 11:03 AM
That's a startlingly accurate rendition of how they talk over here.

Red Hedgehog
04-26-2008, 11:48 AM
That's a startlingly accurate rendition of how they talk over here.

Indeed.

Mr. Sensible
05-09-2008, 05:14 PM
Okay, even I have to admit this week's VGCats was pretty good (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=262).

PapillonReel
05-09-2008, 05:19 PM
Not really. It's kinda overstating the joke, but at least he's trying.

Mr. Sensible
05-10-2008, 02:39 AM
Yeah, well, "good" is relative of course.

Zodar
05-10-2008, 04:39 PM
how the hell do webcomickers make revenue off of their stuff anyway

can shirt sales and adspace really keep such ugly rafts afloat?

Sheana
05-10-2008, 04:51 PM
I recently read How To Make Webcomics, so the answer is apparently yes. Adspace, t-shirts, books and other occasional merchandise can be lived upon if you have the right following.

Zodar
05-10-2008, 05:15 PM
well that is pretty cool

like Every Other Person On The Internet Who Has A Semblance Of Artistic Skill, i was thinking of webbing a comic at some point in near/distant future

but as long as KC Green still works a day job i'm not convinced that it's a good idea for primary income flow (then again, i haven't heard many horror stories of webcomickers quitting their day jobs and tightrope-walking the poverty line, so who knows?)

also; (http://www.chainsawsuit.com/index.shtml)

mopinks
05-13-2008, 12:02 AM
wow, my friend's webcomic got plugged by Penny Arcade today! I bet that's bringing in some mad hits.

mr_bungle700
05-13-2008, 01:58 AM
If by "mad hits" you mean "destroyed server," then you're probably right.

That's cool, though. Which comic was it?

Healy
05-13-2008, 08:26 AM
Knowing Mopinks, it was probably some porn comic or something.

Excitemike
05-13-2008, 09:08 AM
but as long as KC Green still works a day job i'm not convinced that it's a good idea for primary income flow (then again, i haven't heard many horror stories of webcomickers quitting their day jobs and tightrope-walking the poverty line, so who knows?)
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Many print cartoonists also have to work second (or third) jobs. Cartooning is just a bad way to make money in general. After Chris Onstad had to start taking donations I was convinced there's no practical way to earn a living off of webcomics. They are an great way to gain exposure and an excellent promotional tool. There will always be a few who can sustain themselves from it but they are the exception, not the rule. Don't get me wrong, I think there is a bright future for webcomics, just not a very profitable one.

Would any of the comicing types here be interested in contirbuting to a print anthology? Say, if there was a meager page rate involved? I've been on the fence about this for a while but if enough people are interested I would gladly kiss that PS3 goodbye.

mopinks
05-13-2008, 04:18 PM
Knowing Mopinks, it was probably some porn comic or something.

nah, he's actually one of my two or three friends who don't draw porn comics.

he is, of course, THE BURGERTIME (http://burgertime.deviantart.com/), known far and wide for The Comic Adventures of Left and Right and that Smash Broters Story comic and several dozen delightful flash animations (http://www.chickensnack.com/flash/marioq.html)!

philliam
05-13-2008, 05:51 PM
nah, he's actually one of my two or three friends who don't draw porn comics.

he is, of course, THE BURGERTIME (http://burgertime.deviantart.com/), known far and wide for The Comic Adventures of Left and Right and that Smash Broters Story comic and several dozen delightful flash animations (http://www.chickensnack.com/flash/marioq.html)!

that guitar chick and the skunk hair are tottatlly going to lez out in your comic right

mopinks
05-13-2008, 06:20 PM
I don't think I have a choice, the fans are demanding it :'{

girl-on-girl action inevitably boosts t-shirt sales, right?

philliam
05-13-2008, 06:31 PM
I don't think I have a choice, the fans are demanding it :'{

girl-on-girl action inevitably boosts t-shirt sales, right?

just look at lesnick! DOH OHOHOHOHOHO

Zodar
05-13-2008, 07:20 PM
nah, he's actually one of my two or three friends who don't draw porn comics.

he is, of course, THE BURGERTIME (http://burgertime.deviantart.com/), known far and wide for The Comic Adventures of Left and Right and that Smash Broters Story comic and several dozen delightful flash animations (http://www.chickensnack.com/flash/marioq.html)!

chickensnack is a fantastic website and burgertime is awesome for spawning it

i wish he wasn't cleaning it up though, now i can't get to all of his random crap flash loops like CAN A BROTHER GET SOME WATER

Mightyblue
05-13-2008, 07:36 PM
Y'know, I've been reading U.F.O. for a while now, and it just dawned on me that Mopinks draws it. I'm an idiot sometimes.

Zodar
05-13-2008, 07:49 PM
so internet superstar Bobservo and a nifty artist are teaming up to do a comic called Lagend! (http://lagendcomic.com/) haven't read much of it, but Mackey's a talented writer and the colors are gorgeous, so i've got high hopes!

also Mopnicks you are a pretty cool dude, i don't think i've addressed this fact in any previous posts so i might as well do it now

Savathun
05-13-2008, 09:05 PM
so internet superstar Bobservo and a nifty artist are teaming up to do a comic called Lagend! (http://lagendcomic.com/) haven't read much of it, but Mackey's a talented writer and the colors are gorgeous, so i've got high hopes!



What? That is awesome. Bobservo could make a grocery list sound interesting. Although any grocery list can be fun if you pretend that each item will be used for some kind of deviant sexual purpose.

And I totally had a UFO avatar before it was cool! Well, but then... as soon as I stopped doing it, it became cool here. Damn it! Must not read into this.

mopinks
05-13-2008, 09:47 PM
ain't no shame in being ahead of the game! you set the trends in motion!

wait, YOU GUYS ARE JUST BEING NICE TO ME BECAUSE TOMORROW IS MY BIRTHDAY, AREN'T YOU :<

Balrog
05-13-2008, 11:58 PM
We're trying to get in your pants :o

Excitemike
05-14-2008, 04:32 AM
We're trying to get in your pants :o

Try "double meat" technique.

Zodar
05-14-2008, 04:16 PM
rice boy has officially ended

it was really something

Healy
05-14-2008, 07:50 PM
It most certainly was!

Some thoughts on the ending (Warning! Spoilers!):

I thought that maybe TOE's death should have been more deliberate, to drive home the point that he was sacrificing his life for Rice Boy. I guess maybe the artist was going for a theme of unwilling sacrifice, though. Also, the epilougue seemed like a downer, but then that can be expected. I mean, what do you do after... well, what happened, basically?

Also I am so excited at the prospect of there being more tales in the Rice Boy universe! I wonder if they'll center around some minor characters in the Rice Boy story, like that one arrogant prince that Rice Boy met! (I forgot his name.)

Paul le Fou
05-14-2008, 08:35 PM
It felt... rushed. I normally hate exposition and value subtlety in a work, but it could have used just a few more pages to flesh out what was really happening. Rice Boy got all the way to the tower, there was a bit of a fight, and then all of a sudden IT WAS YOU ALL ALONG - dead - avatar is back - THE END! And the epilogue didn't really seem to do anything other than to say Everything was back to normal!! Didn't go into the effects or aftermath of the return of the last avatar, anything about uniting the two sides, the white formless... the more I think about it, the more disappointed I think I am.

Savathun
05-14-2008, 09:59 PM
Here's a new webcomic I like, but it updates slowly and it won't be everyone's cup of tea. The art kind of reminds me of Bingo Brown (remember that?).

http://betweenthelines.sosdg.org/byberrycover.html

Pheeel
05-15-2008, 01:46 PM
Stickmans (http://www.stickmans.net/stickmans/somequestions001.php). David Guy is a genius.
http://www.stickmans.net/stickmans/pictures/hand%20drawn%20cartoons%20004/picture014.gif

philliam
05-15-2008, 08:31 PM
im using this thread to pimp out two of my biggest influences

http://www.verabee.com/

http://www.jenwang.net/

HOLLA AT YA GURRLLLZ

Excitemike
05-15-2008, 08:44 PM
Jen Wang has mad skillz. I, uh, saw her in Shojo Beat.

Zodar
05-15-2008, 08:50 PM
im using this thread to pimp out two of my biggest influences

http://www.verabee.com/

http://www.jenwang.net/

HOLLA AT YA GURRLLLZ

i knew about vera but jen is a new one, also extremely good. man i wish i knew how to use watercolours that effectively, i always wind up using too much water and warping the hell out of the paper :I

philliam
05-15-2008, 08:56 PM
I used to watercolor but then I stop taking my painting class :I

also this http://www.whatisdeepfried.com/

Balrog
05-15-2008, 09:11 PM
im using this thread to pimp out two of my biggest influences

http://www.verabee.com/

http://www.jenwang.net/

HOLLA AT YA GURRLLLZ

The subliminal message is philliam loves Vera Wang.

mr_bungle700
05-15-2008, 09:20 PM
im using this thread to pimp out two of my biggest influences

http://www.verabee.com/

http://www.jenwang.net/

HOLLA AT YA GURRLLLZ

Yes. You have good taste.

mrbuu82
05-15-2008, 09:45 PM
I used to watercolor but then I stop taking my painting class :I

also this http://www.whatisdeepfried.com/

I remember seeing this comic in Wizard eons ago. Isn't there some mutant kite-eating tree in the Weapon Brown comic?

locit
05-16-2008, 12:29 AM
On Rice Boy: I liked it! I agree that it felt rushed, but I guess I was in the dark enough about TOE's candidacy for messiah-ship that the twist genuinely got to me. I didn't mind TOE's death not being deliberate because it was just that: not deliberate. He got stabbed in the back!

I'm also not very dissapointed because of his announcement of more stories in the same world that can help fill in some of the gaps the ending left open. I'm still not quite sure what the hell those white things on the Underside were besides Rice Boy makers. Kind of. Ish.

I also wonder if the fact that the ending came in one big clump had any effect on how it was received. I mean, for a long time now we've been getting 3-4 page updates at a time, and a lot of space between to mull them over. Then this batch hit and it was like, thirty freaking pages with an ending!

Chu
05-16-2008, 12:38 PM
im using this thread to pimp out two of my biggest influences

http://www.verabee.com/

http://www.jenwang.net/

HOLLA AT YA GURRLLLZ

Aww yeah. I got introduced to these two through Flight (http://www.flightcomics.com/). Their stuff is great.

philliam
05-16-2008, 08:06 PM
All ya'll bitches should check out REBBECAA SUGAR http://berkolounger.livejournal.com/

She does a comic called Pug Davis: http://www.sugarboukas.com/PD

Zodar
05-16-2008, 09:11 PM
hell yeah, pug davis is the shit

that dancing animation loop on her lj is extremely well done

Zodar
05-18-2008, 07:51 PM
she doesn't draw a webcomic, but since we're all posting artistic inspirations and shit, Roxie Vizcarra's art (http://www.roxination.com/) is almost amazing enough to make me turn gay

philliam
05-18-2008, 08:09 PM
she doesn't draw a webcomic, but since we're all posting artistic inspirations and shit, Roxie Vizcarra's art (http://www.roxination.com/) is almost amazing enough to make me turn gay

that Laika comic is awesome

mr_bungle700
05-18-2008, 09:54 PM
I like the surprise ending.

Dart Zaidyer
05-28-2008, 10:11 PM
So hey, PvP has been the definition of a "safe" comic for many years now, right? Scott Kurtz writing sitcom stories with reset-switch endings and simplistic art, right? Well he's in the middle of a huge, years-overdue storyline right now that will have far-reaching consequences. I'm excited now, and I never get excited about PvP.

We're talking about permanent character development. Brent and Jade got married (Finally!), and Francis and Marcy "did it", losing their innocence and suddenly becoming young adults. (Which they have desparately, desparately needed since like five years ago.)
Kurtz's art style has taken a quantum leap during this time as he tries to keep up with everything he's writing. Sometimes he actually broadcasts a live "making of" video, and it's pretty interesting to watch.

Less interesting is Skull the Troll having to "leave forever" though, because come on. PvP can't work without Skull. He'll be back soon enough.

Meanwhile, Starslip Crisis just finished a storyline where Vanderbeam gets to be Captain again, until everyone reminds him Cutter's just on sabbatical. In effect, a partial retread where nothing happened. Have we entered bizarro world?

marcalan
05-29-2008, 12:31 PM
http://truckbearingkibble.com/

It's a lot like Perry Bible Fellowship. So funny and good artwork.

Mr. Sensible
05-29-2008, 01:18 PM
PvP and Starslip Crisis

On PvP: Meh. He'll be back to the usual trappings soon enough.

On Starslip Crisis: Does anyone else feel like Kris would've done better without the whole Halfpixel endeavor? I can't help but feel this partnership with Kurtz will lead to the destruction of everything I love about Straub's work. Like Kurtz's hackneyed writing will infect him, somehow.

ringworm
05-29-2008, 01:23 PM
On Starslip Crisis: Does anyone else feel like Kris would've done better without the whole Halfpixel endeavor? I can't help but feel this partnership with Kurtz will lead to the destruction of everything I love about Straub's work. Like Kurtz's hackneyed writing will infect him, somehow.
That is a worry. I'm hoping it works the other way around though and Straub challenges Kurtz to be better. When they were doing them I really liked their podcasts. They had a good rapport and I got why they were friends. I think Kurtz is a lot funnier than his (normally) terrible webcomic lets on.

Excitemike
06-03-2008, 12:26 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d25/eye_robot/comics/china_3.jpg

More stories of the May 12th earthquake here. (http://www.paulgravett.com/articles/133_china/133_china.htm)

mr_bungle700
06-03-2008, 05:34 PM
Oh man, these things are breaking my heart.

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9818/china2zv0.jpg

Pombar
06-03-2008, 06:36 PM
I read these a few days back. Soul crushing.

Jeanie
06-06-2008, 07:35 PM
So Fanboys (http://fanboys-online.com/index.php) today was pretty funny:

http://fanboys-online.com/comics/20080605.jpg

Zodar
06-06-2008, 08:01 PM
ahaha that's fucking awesome, fanboys has come a looooong way

kc green also did a great TF2 comic:
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/2443/ccredspyhv3.gif

mopinks
06-06-2008, 09:33 PM
I was going to put this in the RANDOM IMAGE thread, but I think the WEBCOMIC thread will appreciate it more.
http://ohnolookoutitsaraygun.com/cadcry.png

Ample Vigour
06-06-2008, 09:43 PM
Even the ER doc has weed eyes. Fuck me.

Jeanie
06-06-2008, 09:54 PM
I don't know why but Buckley's artwork fills me with RAGE!

Also, why does the door say "Geno"?

Zodar
06-06-2008, 10:31 PM
I was going to put this in the RANDOM IMAGE thread, but I think the WEBCOMIC thread will appreciate it more.

josh l. is totally rad; don't care what anybody says

philliam
06-06-2008, 10:42 PM
Holy shit that was amazing.

Zef
06-06-2008, 10:52 PM
Holy shit that was amazing.

Zodar
06-06-2008, 11:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEhRhrbUVBo&fmt=18

nadia
06-06-2008, 11:02 PM
I can't stop laughing. This is surely the end of me.

Ample Vigour
06-06-2008, 11:12 PM
Okay, gents. Seriously. Where the fuck did this storyline come from? Did the writer just wake up and decide his life would be incomplete without pathos in the middle of the most aggressively mediocre gaming strip on the whole internet?

philliam
06-06-2008, 11:15 PM
Buckley watched Scrubs.

KCar
06-06-2008, 11:17 PM
Buckley watched Scrubs.

Biz-urn! No I don't know what that means. Yes, I agree it's a stupid thing to say.

Zodar
06-06-2008, 11:19 PM
Okay, gents. Seriously. Where the fuck did this storyline come from? Did the writer just wake up and decide his life would be incomplete without pathos in the middle of the most aggressively mediocre gaming strip on the whole internet?

he is basing this off of a miscarriage that he "suffered through" with an ex-girlfriend a few years ago (BUT THE RELATIONSHIP WAS POISON ANYWAY SO HEY JUST WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE)

buckley has no idea how normal people deal with crises (or talk, interact, behave, etc), and the comic will return to the "wacky gaming dudes" status quo in three strips tops

philliam
06-06-2008, 11:22 PM
Biz-urn! No I don't know what that means. Yes, I agree it's a stupid thing to say.

Just say "Burn!" next time.

locit
06-06-2008, 11:45 PM
I can't stop laughing. This is surely the end of me.
I didn't really start laughing until I saw the YCS tribute.

Eegra.com is taking a similar, more serious tack.
http://shostakovich.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/b0/b0d08c3c668fd2416f4f274f759deae76c9ab245.jpg

nadia
06-07-2008, 12:23 AM
The current storyline irritates me, but I'm not among the angry masses. I don't think Buckley means to insult anyone. I'm hearing a lot of anger because "My friend had a miscarriage" and "My mom had a miscarriage," but it's not like Buckley's laughing at the dead babies of the world.

I just don't like it because it's such cheap, easy drama. Lesnick's modification pretty much nails it: Cartoon would-be baby dies, cue tears from the audience. Maybe I sound callous, but there's really no reason for me to care about what's going on. Buckley says this is going to be a major test of his characters' relationships. I say, big flippin' deal. I never developed any fondness for Buckley's characters. It's kind of like that Chinese proverb about how it's impossible to get fat by eating one big meal: It's impossible to make me start caring for these characters just because they lost a pretend baby.

(Sidenote: I feel bad for real people who lose real babies, even if I don't know them very well. Probably because they're humans and exhibit human emotions rather than one stiff face and a mouth permanently hinged open by lockjaw.)

he is basing this off of a miscarriage that he "suffered through" with an ex-girlfriend a few years ago (BUT THE RELATIONSHIP WAS POISON ANYWAY SO HEY JUST WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE)

Yeah, that was a nice little write-up. "Both of us were too stupid to recognise that the relationship wasn't working, so thank God a dead baby showed us the way."

buckley has no idea how normal people deal with crises (or talk, interact, behave, etc), and the comic will return to the "wacky gaming dudes" status quo in three strips tops

I'd settle for a small measure of medical research. I don't know what Buckley's talking about with the latest strip, which mentions surgery. I was made to understand that a miscarriage is indeed devastating (my mother miscarried twice), but the procedure to remove the foetus is pretty quick and...well, I won't say easy, but I don't think general anesthetic is required unless there's a severe cock-up going on in the uterus.

(But if that were the case, the hospital wouldn't wait on surgery.)

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/woekitten/logicerror.jpg

Merus
06-07-2008, 12:46 AM
The worst bit about all this is that Absath thinks everyone else is jealous of his success.

ArugulaZ
06-07-2008, 01:33 AM
I'd say I'm frustrated with his success. I feel the same way about other undeserving Internet celebrities, like Tron Guy, Chris Crocker, and Tay Zonday. These folks don't seem to realize that quality and popularity are two completely different terms. Frankly, after Web 2.0, I'm starting to think that they're mutually exclusive terms.

Paul le Fou
06-07-2008, 12:15 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/thesilverboy/YIP.jpg

KCar
06-07-2008, 12:28 PM
Just say "Burn!" next time.

I just want so badly to be loved.

Zodar
06-07-2008, 01:54 PM
I'd say I'm frustrated with his success. I feel the same way about other undeserving Internet celebrities, like Tron Guy, Chris Crocker, and Tay Zonday. These folks don't seem to realize that quality and popularity are two completely different terms. Frankly, after Web 2.0, I'm starting to think that they're mutually exclusive terms.

kc green still works a day job

there's no such thing as justice

Dizzy
06-07-2008, 02:18 PM
WEBCOMIC

Wait -- this was supposed to be "serious"?

I was totally confused. I didn't know if I missed the joke or whatever. It's still confusing. There's like an astronaut, a Jesus and hawk or something all shedding a tear. I didn't even know it was a miscarriage, I thought the woman was dead. Confusing as hell. I think nerds need to leave their tragedies out of their funnies. They obviously don't know what they are doing. Black and white colors! So Serious! That's not the original, is it? Damn it, now I'm more confused than ever. I give up on reality.

VorpalEdge
06-07-2008, 02:25 PM
Also, why does the door say "Geno"?

It says "GENC", as part of "Emergency". He obviously hasn't thought it out too much though, as there's no room for "Exit".

I was kind of interested in reading his justification for this plotline, but he changed his news rant and now it's gone forever. Or at least, gone far enough away that I don't feel like searching for it.

Dizzy
06-07-2008, 02:27 PM
I think I read one or two CTRL+ALT+DEL comics years back. I didn't know they was still a following.

Healy
06-07-2008, 02:36 PM
The interesting thing about the whole CAD miscarriage is that people where predicting this might happen as soon as Buckley revealed Lilith was pregnant. It's not like this was wholly uncalled for. Heck, I'm sure seedier parts of the internet set up betting pools for what would happen to the baby.

Oh, and as long as we're sharing photoshops, I like to show you all this, from one of my other forums (Warning: Maybe a little callous?)

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k69/veryweirdguy/20080602copy.jpg

Zodar
06-07-2008, 04:04 PM
Wait -- this was supposed to be "serious"?

I was totally confused. I didn't know if I missed the joke or whatever. It's still confusing. There's like an astronaut, a Jesus and hawk or something all shedding a tear. I didn't even know it was a miscarriage, I thought the woman was dead. Confusing as hell. I think nerds need to leave their tragedies out of their funnies. They obviously don't know what they are doing. Black and white colors! So Serious! That's not the original, is it? Damn it, now I'm more confused than ever. I give up on reality.

that's a parody you dumbbutt, this is the original (http://www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20080602)

Dizzy
06-07-2008, 04:08 PM
that's a parody you dumbbutt, this is the original (http://www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20080602)

Thanks Zodar.

spineshark
06-07-2008, 04:15 PM
It says "GENC", as part of "Emergency". He obviously hasn't thought it out too much though, as there's no room for "Exit".
This is a good call, but uhh, it really looks to me like the other door says "GENCY" as well. So they're apparently marked "GENCYGENCY"

Zef
06-07-2008, 04:18 PM
Not really. The left-hand side of the door is pushed inwards, so the "GENCY" on it faces out, presumably with an "EMER" on this side.

But by God, what a detestable comic.

spineshark
06-07-2008, 04:21 PM
Ahh, I guess it makes "sense" now. Despite the wacky perspective.

Savathun
06-07-2008, 04:46 PM
So CAD does a comic ABOUT a miscarriage?

Is that meta?

Savathun
06-07-2008, 06:06 PM
If that means he's willing to admit his comic is a miscarriage, that MUST be progress, right?

Dizzy
06-07-2008, 07:27 PM
Not really. The left-hand side of the door is pushed inwards, so the "GENCY" on it faces out, presumably with an "EMER" on this side.

But by God, what a detestable comic.

Using the photograph manipulation technology that allows me to view the entire picture three dimensionally, a technology I inherited from Blade Runner, I am able to confirm Zef's precise observation.

However, my interpretative technology says that the explicit use of the word GENO means that the author is making a direct connection between the lost baby and Geno from Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars. Like the baby, Geno came from the heavens (the author's balls) and was one of the stars (an ovary egg). However Geno lost his divinity and took the form of a lifeless puppet, vis-a-vis, dead baby.

So the word GENO has a profound meaning behind it.

locit
06-07-2008, 09:25 PM
Meta is Buckley's bread and butter. (http://www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20021023) It's always a good sign when a comic spends the first three strips telling you how unoriginal it is! Always.
At least the characters changed their facial expressions in the beginning.

PapillonReel
06-07-2008, 09:27 PM
At least the characters changed their facial expressions in the beginning.

Oh snap!

Healy
06-08-2008, 01:34 PM
This is the awesomest pic evah. None of you can deny.

http://kundor.org/pub/Awesomest%20pic%20evah.PNG

The fact that it apparently came from 4chan makes its awesomeness that much more special.

philliam
06-08-2008, 01:42 PM
The fact that it apparently came from 4chan makes its awesomeness that much more special.

Coming from 4chan doesn't make anything more special, Healy.

Healy
06-08-2008, 01:51 PM
Coming from 4chan doesn't make anything more special, Healy.

I meant it in that most everything that comes out of 4chan is terrible, and this is awesome, which makes it a special snowflake.

philliam
06-08-2008, 02:00 PM
I meant it in that most everything that comes out of 4chan is terrible, and this is awesome, which makes it a special snowflake.

Like you, my love.

SDMX
06-13-2008, 07:48 PM
Having just read the comic about Lesnick's sabbatical, I feel we should further discuss some of the rather valid points he makes about the state of artistic stagnancy in the industry at the moment, farther than just laughing at CAD for being a piece of crap.

I was also going to chortle about how he bitches that his readers believe writing is more important than art, but seeing as how he has great difficulty writing, that's probably a significant burden for him that would be pretty crass to exploit.

How's this: Some of the greatest comics on the web right now have static art styles and show no signs of evolution in any form. If artists consider a change in their style a healthy and necessary expression of their growth as a human being, should these comics be expected to change?

philliam
06-13-2008, 08:07 PM
All webcomics suck.

Pawelmaji
06-13-2008, 08:19 PM
It depends, some change is good. Like in Girly I hardly noticed that their chins went from a point to no chin at all. For me it's one of those things that went un-noticed for awhile, but the change was good. Especially since their bodies where already curvy, having rounded faces seemed more natural.

The one that was in color didn't appeal to me at first, especially since it seems more zany and with color to boot. It was just all too much. Looking back at it, it was some quality work. I guess you can't really appreciate some changes until you get used to it. A shame that he went back to Black and White. OTOH, I kinda like more updates.

Regardless, when you change your style or the style of a particular art piece, you take a risk of losing your audience. But, you don't get ahead by not taking risks. I think Josh is lamenting that nobody seems to want to take risks with their comics, It's not like most of them aren't making money off of them. And when some do make a living like CAD, they suddenly stop trying to improve and make changes, thinking they've found some sort of sweet spot that people like. Even so, CAD could do so much better. And without taking any risks, he might lose his audience to boredom.

And yeah, webcomics suck. Only because anybody with an internet connection and the slightest motivation to create anything at all, can make a webcomic. These people really lower the bar on the quality of webcomics.

Dizzy
06-13-2008, 08:28 PM
Message boards suck. Anyone with an internet connection and the slightest motivation to type anything at all, can make a message. These people really lower the bar on the quality of discourse around the world. Every word produced by message boards is an abomination that eats away at anything intelligent for as a long as it takes for radiation to decay, and is just as deadly. Let's go back and use them for their original purposes: to trade government and scientific information.

Kishi
06-13-2008, 08:34 PM
Whenever I read Girly, I feel like I'm looking at a really good comic that's been placed behind a window speckled with dirt.

Pawelmaji
06-13-2008, 08:38 PM
Message boards suck. Anyone with an internet connection and the slightest motivation to type anything at all, can make a message. These people really lower the bar on the quality of discourse around the world. Every word produced by message boards is an abomination that eats away at anything intelligent for as a long as it takes for radiation to decay, and is just as deadly. Let's go back and use them for their original purposes: to trade government and scientific information.

haha :)

Torgo
06-13-2008, 08:46 PM
Let's go back and use them for their original purposes: to trade government and scientific information.
Calorie Mate works for the GOVERMENT, so I think we're in the clear.

locit
06-13-2008, 09:54 PM
This was in the SA:YCS comics thread, and for a moment I thought it was the real deal:
http://img.waffleimages.com/4540972e1446e8eb1f3fde059a47b85d00109faa/morelike.jpg

Zodar
06-13-2008, 09:54 PM
on art stagnation: what many artists (mainly internet) don't seem to get is that art isn't a video game- there's no final goal, no ending, no level 70. no matter how technically skilled an artist you may be, you're never too good (or bad) for experimentation and new stylistic choices. there's no such thing as the "best" style an artist can have.

that's part of why i love lesnick's work so much: he's always experimenting with new styles, and encourages others to do the same.

ALSO: this shit about buckley is getting really tiresome, the original "Loss" strip is ten times funnier than any of its edits

Eusis
06-17-2008, 11:12 PM
I still follow Sluggy Freelance because I enjoy it enough and I may as well stick with it after plowing through the whole backlog a few years back, but wow, this new strip (http://www.sluggy.com/daily.php?date=080618) is probably the worst case of it drowning in its own continuity I've seen yet. It references a conversation from a "short while ago", a short while being a comic from just over two years ago, for events that happened about two years before THAT. Oh, and I'm pretty sure this could've been made more straightforward and still have made the same point without confusing everyone that doesn't have the archives memorized.

AJR
06-18-2008, 12:07 AM
I have noticed that this thread doesn't have enough KC Green. I must help to rectify this:

http://horribleville.com/comics/20080615.gif

http://www.rumblo.com/cc/comics/cc-japansportscar.gif

http://www.rumblo.com/cc/comics/cc-lincolnssecret.gif

Parish
06-18-2008, 12:07 AM
The worst creative decision I ever made was the notion that my artwork needed a STYLE rather than just the default way I draw. (Which isn't really a style, just how my brain's wired.) I mucked around with some really stupid, contrived, artificial styles before realizing a few years later to just accept the fact that I draw the way I draw. If I'd realized that from the start, I probably would have drawn enough with my normal technique that my art would have improved significantly. Instead, when I dropped the fake styles, my default art was worse than it had been when I abandoned it.

I think there's a topical point here but maybe not. Uh... stay in school! Don't do drugs!

Merus
06-18-2008, 12:32 AM
It's fun to draw in other styles, occasionally, but man a style is something that evolves organically. How simple or complex you like to make things, how you prefer to draw eyes, that's a style.

So I guess "passing off an inability to draw as a style" is what everyone does to an extent?

Adrenaline
06-18-2008, 10:03 AM
http://www.biggercheese.com/index.php?comic=747

Four straight brutally hilarious jabs at CAD's miscarriage thing. Plus the newspost has some more good ones from around the web.

philliam
06-18-2008, 12:06 PM
KC Green and Kate Beaton are the only two webcomic buddies that make me laugh.

Zodar
06-18-2008, 01:45 PM
KC Green and Kate Beaton are the only two webcomic buddies that make me laugh.

hell yes
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/9348/georgeivop1.jpg
seriously every panel in this comic is great

mr_bungle700
06-18-2008, 03:15 PM
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9593/austenkn7.png

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1669/orwelljm8.jpg

Posaune
06-18-2008, 05:49 PM
Aw man KC Green is 4 days older than me. Getting older kind of sucks because at least when you are young if someone is impressive they at least have a few years on you, but now I am just out of excuses. Lame.

nadia
06-18-2008, 08:07 PM
The proud, firm buttocks of the United States of America.

cortbassist89
06-18-2008, 08:17 PM
Has anyone mentioned Alien Loves Predator? Because. I think. I think I'm in love with it guise.

AJR
06-18-2008, 09:08 PM
Aw man KC Green is 4 days older than me. Getting older kind of sucks because at least when you are young if someone is impressive they at least have a few years on you, but now I am just out of excuses. Lame.

Hell, the dude’s a year younger than me. I’m used to seeing people far more awesome than myself, but it almost stings a little when they’re actually younger.

Excitemike
06-18-2008, 09:51 PM
Hell, the dude’s a year younger than me. I’m used to seeing people far more awesome than myself, but it almost stings a little when they’re actually younger.

Oh this gets so much more awesome the older you get. If you really want to feel like shit: you can make fun of Rob Liefeld all you want, that motherfucker made $22 million in 1992 at the age of 25. That's Adam Sandler money, in 1992 dollars.

Paul le Fou
06-18-2008, 10:12 PM
LeBron James is only 6 months older than me. It's all downhill from here, guys.

AJR
06-18-2008, 10:43 PM
Oh this gets so much more awesome the older you get. If you really want to feel like shit: Rob Liefeld is a rich motherfucker

In a way, that's almost uplifting.

I mean, if a person without any talent can get that rich that young, maybe there’s hope for me yet.

Zodar
06-18-2008, 11:33 PM
i've got about 8 years on most of you old farts, life is my oyster

philliam
06-23-2008, 04:16 PM
Look I found a funny gamer webcomic

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/philliamahn/gamer.jpg

Merus
06-23-2008, 06:23 PM
Honestly I think she should stick to shenanigans with historical figures.

KCar
06-23-2008, 06:25 PM
I love how video game comics have become a genre ripe for parody. Who knew?

Guy
06-23-2008, 06:30 PM
Honestly I think she should stick to shenanigans with historical figures.

That's the joke.

philliam
06-23-2008, 06:30 PM
Honestly I think she should stick to shenanigans with historical figures.

You're a cutie.

Dizzy
06-23-2008, 06:36 PM
You're a cutie.

Is there evidence of this in the photo album thread?