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SilentSnake
06-30-2008, 01:40 AM
It's time to get all Japanese with our Zelda clones! We shall be playing my favorite Zelda clone of the N64 era, Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon. The main reason for this Let's Play is that this is a game that is deserving of more attention than it got. It came out very close to the release of Ocarina of Time and got overlooked when it came out. It was also one of the first U.S. released N64 games which contained numerous Japanese references. In fact, it was swimming with them, as the setting of the game was in medival Japan. Very few people would be into this type of thing back then, so it didn't sell very well. So! We shall take a fantastic trip into the often-humerous world of Goemon. It is a fairly linear game, so there will be no possibility of breaking order. Nor will I do a speed run. This will be a get-everything run. As well, I will be explaining specific Japanese references that are scattered within the game, as real-world...uh..."things" can be found in the game. Context is important to getting into the world, and here you shall get it. Now let's get started!


So to set the mood, here's the opening movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFP71Y64ZN0

There are numerous musical numbers scattered within the game, and they are all sung in Japanese with English subtitles. "A Japanese musical made into a game? Crazy!" Brother, that is just the tip of the iceberg.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Title.jpg

Funny, I remember the title being more round. Oh well. It's a title all right.

Now let's begin the game.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/controllerpak.jpg

Er, yeah remember Controller Paks? They were the next big thing in memory storage! To this day we stick chunky cartridges into our controllers to take our saves to other people's houses! Wait...

Preface: Uh Oh UFO!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Oedo1.jpg

It is a peaceful day in Oedo Town. Happy people with frozen faces are busily walking back and forth on the streets. Nothing unusual there. But suddenly...

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/goemonrunning.jpg

A ruckus! It seems that we meet our hero, Goemon, in the direst of curcumstances!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/manager.jpg

...uh...running from a shop manager. Not too heroic there.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/clothes.jpg

And...here we have Goemon's friend, Ebisumaru. He's...special. (Hint: This would be the character we would name "Pants" if we could.)

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/discount.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/dance.jpg

Oh yeah. He really means this. Believe it.

SilentSnake
06-30-2008, 01:42 AM
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http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/me.jpg

Should we tell him? Nah, it's funnier to let him think he's "unique". Man that's cruel of us. Shame on you guys. You all made me do it. Yeah that's it.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/worry.jpg

Well, we now know who the normal one is. BUT WAIT! WHAT'S THAT SOUND?!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/ufo1.jpg

Why, a peach-shaped UFO is flying towards the castle. That's...novel.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/attack.jpg

What's this? A evil-looking dude is going to attack the castle? Oh noes!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/hoho.jpg

Uh...get used to that. She tends to do that.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/japanoedo.jpg

This is Oedo Castle. This is where the lord of the land lives. Duh.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/peaceful.jpg

Does anyone seriously say that in a video game when something bad isn't about to happen?

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/transformedoedo.jpg

Um...okay? The attack changed the castle into a European one. Um...why??? Does someone want to build their own Disney Land before Disney was even born?

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/plans.jpg

Yes yes nefarious plans and all that. We've heard that before.

SilentSnake
06-30-2008, 01:43 AM
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You didn't think we'd get by without hearing his signature evil laugh too, now, did you?

Time for Goemon action!

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Oh. He wants to come too. I was fine with his delusions, but I can't handle him naked. It should be fine if he wears some clothes, though. Maybe...

And...that's the start of our journey into weirdness! More next time cause I'm sleepy.

Next Time: Chapter 1: Engrish Time! --or-- Why You Should Thank Your Lucky Stars For Tomm and Nich

Edit: I promise I'll fix the sizes tomorow I need sleeeeeeep

fanboymaster
06-30-2008, 03:15 AM
I love this game, glad to see someone giving it the LP treatment.

Dynastic Bird
06-30-2008, 06:02 AM
I need to play this, but there's that stupid controller pack issue...

But yeah; I'd like to play this sometime. It has a musical or six? Sweet! I didn't know that!

mopinks
06-30-2008, 06:24 AM
I rented this game when it came out and it blew my mind and made me a Goemon fan forever. it's DELICIOUS.

Gredlen
06-30-2008, 06:48 AM
This game is awesome. Anyone who doesn't agree either hasn't played it or pays homage to some dark lord long forgotten by man.

Rai
06-30-2008, 09:23 AM
I rented this game so often, I should have just bought a copy.

Unfortunately, I never had a controller pack, so I only ever made it to the first giant robot battle. But what an awesome fight that was.

fanboymaster
06-30-2008, 10:59 AM
I AM IMPAAAAAAAAAAACTOOOOOO!

I love that song so much, if a video isn't linked when it shows up, I'll cry.

SilentSnake
06-30-2008, 11:06 AM
I AM IMPAAAAAAAAAAACTOOOOOO!

I love that song so much, if a video isn't linked when it shows up, I'll cry.

Noted!

nunix
06-30-2008, 11:22 AM
This is a sequel, right? I remember some game on SNES.

SilentSnake
06-30-2008, 11:27 AM
Actually, Ganbare Goemon is a long-running Konami staple. This game was preceeded by at least 11 or 12 other games on various platforms. Very few came to the states, though, and the SNES one might have been the last U.S. one before this.

PapillonReel
06-30-2008, 11:31 AM
This game is awesome. Anyone who doesn't agree either hasn't played it or pays homage to some dark lord long forgotten by man.

Huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh
Huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh

Tanto
06-30-2008, 11:40 AM
Is Goemon's Great Adventure any good? I remember being intrigued by it when I was younger, but I never wanted it more than I wanted other games.

SilentSnake
06-30-2008, 11:58 AM
I never got that one, as I seemed to take a hiatus on video games when it came out. But it comes closer to Goemon's 2D roots than the first Goemon 64 game. Now that I look at it, it looks intriguing. I want to play it some day. However, I really like the way that the first 64 game creates a cohesive world that references Japanese culture semi-effectively.

Gredlen
06-30-2008, 02:33 PM
PLASMAAAAAAAAAA!!

I've heard good things about Goemon's Great Adventure, but as silent said, it's a 2D Goemon, so as long as you know not to expect Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon it'll probably be fun. I didn't know not to expect that, but I managed to have some fun when I played it. Can't remember much about it, though, as I only played it for a little bit.

ProfessorS
06-30-2008, 02:55 PM
I. Fucking. Love. This. Game.

I really loved Legend of the Mystical Ninja for the SNES(it still stands as one of the games I've rented the most, I even eventually bought it out of a bargain bin for like 20 bucks in 1994). I was incredibly disappointed that none of the SNES sequels came out, so I was pretty thrilled when I learned this game was coming out on the quality title-starved N64.

One thing I remember, it took MONTHS for this game to come out, Nintendo Power reviewed it in like February, but I didn't see it on store shelves til mid June. It drove me nuts.

SilentSnake
07-01-2008, 10:10 PM
Chapter 1: Engrish Time! --or-- Why You Should Thank Your Lucky Stars For Tomm and Nich

So now is the time where we take control of our hero Goemon!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/home.jpg

We begin inside his house. Notice how we can't jump up into the upper section. Ah invisible walls. This must be the N64.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/worm.jpg
Heh. Oddly enough, the first thing we shall do is lay on the ground and crawl. The best part is that if you do it back and forth, it looks like Goemon is doing the worm.
***INNOVATION ALERT***Goemon used crawling in a 3D space a whole year before Metal Gear Solid AND made it look a lot funnier!

Now let's step outside and see a little of what we can do.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/jump.jpg

Well, he can jump, and high too.
***INNOVATION ALERT*** Instead of running off a cliff to jump like in Zelda 64, here all you have to do is push a button! And you jump! WOW!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/swim.jpg
Now let's take Goemon for a swim in the nearby pool of water. My this is odd to see a pool in such a humble neighborhood. What's that now? Latrine? Uh...

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/ryo.jpg
Well, at any rate, we can jump out of the water and get some cash. The money in this game is called Ryo. Feel free to use the space provided to debate whether it is "Ree Oh" or "Rai Oh". Oh Street Fighter II and Breath of Fire series. How you slay me.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/ufo.jpg

So now let's talk to the good citizens of Oedo to gather information. Uh...it seems in the panic of the attack, this good woman has forgotten how to use verb tenses properly.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/waiting.jpg

Uh...sorry Goemon. Just stepped away to leak the lizard. Back to the adventure!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/mokubei.jpg

Ah! Something is highlighed in yellow. This must be a clue!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/copy.jpg

Yeah um...this is indeed a different house. Good use of repeating character models!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/thief1.jpg

So the thieves in this game are the ones in the pink kimonos and the high-pitched voices. Insert your own joke here, for you know you're thinking it. Shame on you.

SilentSnake
07-02-2008, 12:03 AM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/thief2.jpg

One whack of the pipe will get rid of them, though. And I just wrote that as a regular face value sentence believe it or not. Stop scowling at me.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/choices.jpg

We talk to a man of the law to get some directions and it gives us a choice on what we can ask.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/directions.jpg

If we ask for directions, we get prompt directions to several landmarks. If not...

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/justice.jpg
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http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/robo.jpg

Looks like someone has confidence. Hey why don't you go out and be the hero if you're so badass. Yeah I thought so.

***INNOVATION ALERT***Goemon did branching dialogue trees before Mass Effect...wait...you're telling me that those have been around since I was a little kid? Rubbish. Nothing that was made past this decade could be sophisticated. Psh. You crazy.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/mokubei2.jpg

Ah more yellow text. Clearly we're on to something.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/nihon.jpg

***CULTURAL TOUCHSTONE***The bridge that you see here is actually a recreation of a real Japanese landmark. The Nihonbashi bridge spans the river of the same name and eventually sparked a business district of, you guessed it, the same name. As you can see in the picture, it started life as a wooden bridge, which was built in 1603. The district as it stands today stretches from Akihabara in the north to Ginza in the South. Currently, the bridge is a stone incarnation of the original and looks like this:

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Nihombashi.jpg

Anyways, now let's see where this goes. Ah yes. This is the way to Oedo Castle. But what's this?

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/star1.jpg

Is it just me or is this a bit elaborate?

mopinks
07-02-2008, 01:43 AM
Is Goemon's Great Adventure any good? I remember being intrigued by it when I was younger, but I never wanted it more than I wanted other games.

it's really good, but it's bastard hard. also, they took the songs out of the US version. :{ :{ :{ :{ :{

it also has a SECRET 4-player mode, which is probably the best secret ever!

alexb
07-02-2008, 02:19 AM
Secretly the best secret...?

Anyway, good to see old Goemon getting some love. You know, they ended up boiling the real Goemon alive in a giant cauldron when they caught him.

Also, why is it so villainous that they turned Edo Castle into a western-styled one? Because it's western styled. The games are sort of xenophobic. The villain of Ganbare Goemon 2 on the SNES is basically Admiral Perry and in the game after that, the villain is an evil Catholic nun who looks like Ebisumaru called Sister Bismaru. She's the villain again in Goemon's Great Adventure. So Goemon's basically saving Japan from the West. It's fairly good natured xenophobia as far as that stuff goes, though.

SilentSnake
07-02-2008, 10:27 PM
Now is the time where we talk to a weird kid!

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Somehow, those sentences don't seem to flow together well. At least that's what my composition teacher would say.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/trouble.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/stick.jpg

While this game has a lot of great humor within it, some of the jokes are either awkward thanks to subpar localization or fall flat. Which can also be funny. Heck, it added to the charm of the game.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/way.jpg

***CULTURAL TOUCHSTONE*** See that big red lantern in the background? The old man refers to it as the Thunder Gate. In fact, this is a real landmark in Japan. In the area of Tokyo known as Asakusa resides the real Thunder Gate, or Kaminarimon. The gate is about 11.7 meters tall, with its giant lantern leaving just enough room for people to pass underneath. Surrounding it are four statues of Shinto and Buddhist gods. The front two are Raijin, god of thunder, and Fujin, god of wind. The rear two are Tenryu and Kinryu. The gate is known as the face of Asakusa and is very popular with tourists.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/thunder.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kaminarimon.jpg

Okay enough fooling around let's get to the final sections of town. The one we will visit before we make our way to the exit is the business district. After that, we will definitively find out where to find this pipe maker so we can get the chain pipe to cross the star blocks to the castle.

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This is the inn. It is a place where you can...rest. Of course, your health will fill back up when you do. By the way, expect me to recycle this screen for all future inn visits. They don't differentiate.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/restaurant.jpg

This is the item shop, where you can buy any non-armor items. This means riceballs in this case. The nifty thing about rice balls is that if you lose all your health, you will gain back some hearts depending on what kind you have. They never did that it Shiren...:(

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/restaurant1.jpg

This is the restaurant. Each town has one. They serve different foods of the Japanese persuasion. You will gain health if you buy one. Usually you will want to go to the inn, but if you have a certain amount of hearts you want to refill, then this might be a better bargain.
***CULTURAL TOUCHSTONE***The restaurants serve authentic Japanese dishes. Sushi is, of course, various kinds of raw fish and vegetables wrapped in rice and seaweed. Oden is a winter one-pot dish consisting of various ingredients, such as boiled eggs, daikon radish, tofu, miso, and the like. The ingredients vary by region. The oden shown here is on a skewer, which is another variation. Dumplings are fried with eggs and eaten with dashi. One popular variation adds octopus and spices, which is known as takoyaki.

Gredlen
07-02-2008, 10:57 PM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kaminarimon.jpg

Oh, so this is famous Kaminarimon, yah?

I hope someone gets it or I'll just look dumb.

SilentSnake
07-02-2008, 10:59 PM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/store1.jpg

This is the part of the general store that sells different types of armor. In this game, armor works differently than in most games. If you buy a piece of armor, then you will be able to sustain a certain number of hits. After that, the armor disappears. Armor is for physical while helmets is for magic (most projectiles).

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/viva.jpg

Finally, we have the coffee shop. Nothing really here for us to buy, but it is a good source of information.

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http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/magic.jpg

Um...that's TOO much information.

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This is Goemon's token love interest, Omitsu. She works in the local coffee shop.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/language.jpg

As you can see, she's...uh...quite the catch. More on her later.

Now that we are done looking around the town, we will now try to pinpoint the location of the pipe maker. I mean, two people telling us to go to Mt. Fuji is JUST NOT ENOUGH.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/worry2.jpg

Hm. Maybe we should see the fortune teller. Heck, it's worked in numerous other games.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/fortuneteller.jpg

Swanky place, huh. And by swanky, I mean freaky.

Speaking of freaky...

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/plasma-1.jpg

This is the fortune teller. He's also known as the Plasma Man. Wonder why.

SilentSnake
07-02-2008, 11:11 PM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/howdy.jpg

For someone so weird, it's even weirder that he says "Howdy".

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/abba.jpg

Ah. That's more like it.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/plasma-1.jpg

Yes we get it. Plasma. That's a nifty word.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/left.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/kai.jpg

And...we are told exactly how to get to Mt. Fuji. Conviniently enough, it is right next to the fortune teller's shop. So! Let's exit the town and find the pipe maker in Mt. Fuji!

Next Time: Chapter 2: Okay, We Get It, The Bad Guy Likes Peaches

This game is not very divergent, so there really isn't a whole lot of opportunities for participation. But I have a couple of things I want you guys to do. First, you guys will be completely in charge of my cash flow. I will give you guys options as to what you can do with the cash in a town and you guys will tell me what to do with it. At the moment, we only have 42 ryo, so we can't afford anything as of yet, but when we get more, then we can actually prepare for any quests. Secondly, in this game, you can change characters at will. So far, we have Goemon and Ebisumaru. You guys will tell me who to use throughout the next chapter.

Lastly, tell me if you guys want to see anything specific from this Let's Play. Anything at all. I will try to comply with suggestions!

Gredlen
07-02-2008, 11:16 PM
The only character I used every time I played was Yae. <3 Yae

Kirin
07-03-2008, 11:32 AM
Nice. I just walked through the Kaminarimon last week. Wonder how many other things I just saw will show up in this game.

Sprite
07-05-2008, 02:47 PM
The only character I used every time I played was Yae. <3 Yae

Seconded. Awesome character, Yae.

I love Goemon. This game and Goemon's Great Adventure are the only things keeping me holding on to my N64. If they're ever released for Virtual Console, it's bye bye to the clunky black beast.

Anyone else here play Goemon's Great Adventure? I actually prefer it to the 3D game.

Warg
07-05-2008, 04:27 PM
I played Goemon's Great Adventure, and felt it rocked hard. I mean, it was one of very few games at the time that had 2P Co-op (or, at least, it seemed that way).

Though, looking back on it -- I'm trying to remember if it was more the gameplay or the atmosphere that made it excellent. The latter stands out more in my mind.

If Konami could re-insert the songs into the VC version, that would make my day, even if I don't yet have a Wii. (Not really counting on it though, if they didn't change the names back to the originals in Legend of the Mystical Ninja for the SNES. Still would be awesome if they could get the songs back in, though.)

mrbuu82
07-05-2008, 09:05 PM
I could never seem to find this game when I had an N64. Thank you for playing through it.

Also, I thought of something completely different when I saw the 'Dash! Dash! Dash!' in the title: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfGmTzabFM8

SilentSnake
07-05-2008, 09:10 PM
I could never seem to find this game when I had an N64. Thank you for playing through it.

Also, I thought of something completely different when I saw the 'Dash! Dash! Dash!' in the title: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfGmTzabFM8

Actually, you're not too far off. YOU'LL SEEEEEE....

Also, update tomorow people!

Nobuyuki
07-06-2008, 11:20 PM
I remember playing through this game when it came out, when I was first developing an interest in Japanese culture, so it gave me the most fucked up idea of Japan that I could get. Not that it's been disproven, really. What you can't really illustrate in this thread is how fantastic the music, though. Seriously, it has to be the best soundtrack the N64 ever produced. Shame how the series eventually became Gackt'd, like most everything else I love.

Warg
07-07-2008, 09:45 AM
What you can't really illustrate in this thread is how fantastic the music, though. Seriously, it has to be the best soundtrack the N64 ever produced.
Aside from Goemon's Great Adventure, at least. (Though, er, we'd need the vocals back.)

Shame how the series eventually became Gackt'd, like most everything else I love.
The DS Goemon entry was supposed to bring the series out of that, wasn't it?

mopinks
07-07-2008, 04:14 PM
The DS Goemon entry was supposed to bring the series out of that, wasn't it?

too bad nothing ever came of it, because it's a really cool game.

also: beautiful!

SilentSnake
07-10-2008, 08:14 PM
So let's finish off Oedo Town before we head to Fuji:

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/checkpoint.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/superpass.jpg

So I guess we know where we're supposed to go after we finish with the castle.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/oops-1.jpg

Whoops. In his hubris to get going, Goemon accidentally jumped into the water below. I hope his clothes don't shrink lest he look like a very manly Japanese schoolgirl.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/mote.jpg

What's that in the distance? Why, it's a lone platform with something on it! What could it be??????

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/cat1.jpg

Why, it's a silver lucky cat statue! Much like Pieces of Heart in the Zelda games, if you collect four silver cat statues, Goemon and co.'s maximum health will increase by one heart. That's pretty boss if you ask me. Best of all, when Goemon find one, he says "Rock Salt!" Hey I don't hear you offering any suggestions of what it could be.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/Maneki_Neko_Bank.jpg

In Japan, the Maneki Neko is also known as the Lucky Cat or the Fortune Cat. Needless to say, it was thought to bring the owner luck, and is often associated with monetary gain. Needless to say, many business owners put the statue at their entrances to get customers. It may appear that the cat is waving, but in Japan, opening and closing fingers with your hand up like shown is the gesture for beckoning someone over. This also works for getting customers into businesses, as the cat is waving for people to come in.

SilentSnake
07-10-2008, 09:07 PM
Chapter 2: Okay, We Get It, The Bad Guy Likes Peaches

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/kai1.jpg

So let's make our way our of town the only way available to us. This leads us the the Kai Highway. This is the first area with hostile enemies. Looks like we're going to have to fight.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/peach1.jpg

This is the most basic enemy. It looks like a peach wearing a pink dress and bow. It basically fights using the Goomba style of martial arts by trying to bump into our hero at every turn. Since all enemies are seemingly coated with acid like in most games, we would take damage if we let this happen.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/pipe-1.jpg

Goemon's basic weapon is the pipe. Nothing more needs to be said about it, as it doesn't really have any other special properties. Goemon gives little peach thing a whack and it explodes. Well that's special. When I hit a peach with a pipe, I just get juice squirted into my eye.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/flyingdog.jpg

This is a flying dragon head...I guess. It's sometimes hard to tell in this game. For this enemy, you have to jump AND attack AT THE SAME TIME. Complex!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/explode.jpg

When we destroy enemies, sometimes Ryo appears. This probably didn't need explaining, as most games of this type follow this mold, but dammit this is a Let's Play and I WILL treat you like a complete idiot. Okay not really, but I empathize if you feel like that whenever I try to expound on every little detail.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/coin.jpg

Goemon also has a second weapon by default. We can throw Ryo at enemies. This way, we can kill enemies from afar, but to do this, we need to sacrifice some money. I usually don't resort to this tactic, but it has some uses. Incidentally, comparisons to Setzer shall be in vain.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/dumpling.jpg

Also an obvious design paradigm. However, this one is interesting, as they actually use dumplings instead of hearts to restore hearts. I'm not sure I personally would want to eat a dumpling from of the ground, if only because it could have been Takoyaki from Octopia. (If you guys don't get that reference then you are no friend of Talking Time.)

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/coffee.jpg

In the middle of the field is the coffee shop. It seems a tad redundant to have a coffee shop so close to the Oedo one, but whatever. ***INNOVATION ALERT*** Did the shop locations everywhere thing hundreds of years before Starbucks did. Remember that this is the Feudal Era!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/map.jpg

This nice gentleman is willing to sell us a map of Japan for a price. That would be great!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/discount1.jpg

No, Ebisumaru didn't have to do his naked dance to get this.

SilentSnake
07-10-2008, 09:27 PM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/nocharge.jpg

Well that's just swell.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/map1.jpg

If we step outside, we can open up the map to see what it tells us...and...it doesn't really tell us a whole lot. I think we's been hosed.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/motorin.jpg

Well, at least something useful is in this coffee shop. We will be able to restore our health here with some stamina dumplings. Convenient! Good thing there are so many locations of Star...er...I mean nameless coffee chain in Goemon.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/robots.jpg

So THAT'S why the enemies exploded! And I thought they were just to make the game look cooler. Yay continuity!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/impact1.jpg

Ah yes. Impact. We'll hear more about him later...

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/usstar.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/dream.jpg

This will make much less sense later.

So! Let's head for Fuji! The other door on the far end of the highway seems to be the only place to go.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/present.jpg

A different colored peach! Ewww. Throw it out. But seriously, this one is different in that it holds a gift box that opens and shoots metallic orbs at Goemon. Geez they aren't even moving that fast. You need to bulk up, Goemon.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Kai/cat2.jpg

But before we enter the door, we will take a detour and snag another silver cat off the beaten trail. ROCK SALT!

Next Time: Chapter 3: Objects in Video Game May Appear Smaller Than They Actually Are

locit
07-10-2008, 10:17 PM
Oh, so this is famous Kaminarimon, yah?

I hope someone gets it or I'll just look dumb.
That's... not it's official name? It's a play on words? I have no idea?

Just got in on this thread, and I'm digging it. Good humor, good gaming. Silent snake is alright in my book.

Lucas
07-10-2008, 11:24 PM
Also an obvious design paradigm. However, this one is interesting, as they actually use dumplings instead of hearts to restore hearts. I'm not sure I personally would want to eat a dumpling from of the ground, if only because it could have been Takoyaki from Octopia. (If you guys don't get that reference then you are no friend of Talking Time.)

Now I want to draw a picture of Link nonchalantly picking up bloody monster hearts off the ground and eating them to gain his health back.

I wish I could draw.

SilentSnake
09-04-2009, 06:55 PM
Chapter 3: Objects in Video Game May Appear Smaller Than They Actually Are

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/real_fuji.jpg

This, ladies and gentlemen, is Mount Fuji. It is the tallest mountain in Japan as well as a volcano that hasn't erupted in hundreds of years. Also, it is the go-to image when you want to say "Hey look! Japan!" Well guess what?

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/fuji.jpg

Yup! We're in Japan! As you can see, our destination is Mt. Fuji. And guess what? It's the biggest mountain. The game said so! Of course, given that we can see more than half of the base of it right now, I'm...skeptical.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/smoke.jpg

So up until now we've been using Goemon since he's the hero as well as the default character. But with the push of a button, we can swap characters in an instant. With a puff of smoke, Goemon becomes...

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/ebisu.jpg

...Ebisumaru! Fully clothed this time, but I'm guessing he's not really happy about it.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/ladder1.jpg

Right, so we start scaling the mountain by climbing this ladder...wait. Something doesn't seem right about what I just said. Hmmm...maybe I'll put my finger on it later.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/fuji2.jpg

Now we come upon a new enemy type, a doll...thing that shoots out metallic orbs.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/hammer.jpg

As you can see, Ebisumaru's default weapon is a hammer that vaguely looks like a piece of meat on the bone. Which might explain his, uh, girthiness, though it's a miracle that he still hasn't eaten that one. He probably knows he has higher priorities in this case, like beating that dragon head...thing.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/cat3.jpg

After taking out the trash, we run past the ladder (hmmm...) and jump over to the next plaform to find another doll to destroy and another doll and pick up another Silver Fortune Doll. Just one more and we'll have another heart. Ebisumaru doesn't say "ROCK SALT!", but something a bit more nonsensical. Much like Ebisumaru!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/platform.jpg

Now that we've climbed the ladder, we're on another wooden platform. Huh? Who put these here? Anyways, we see a couple of gaps in the construction that we have to jump over. And is that a boulder over there? Yes. Mt. Fuji has infinite boulder generators. It's almost like we're inside some sort of pretend game of some sort...

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/2ladders.jpg

Speaking of that, we come to two different ladders. One going up and one going down. Since we want to go up, we take the ladder that goes down, naturally. It's just LOGIC.

SilentSnake
09-04-2009, 06:57 PM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/golddump.jpg

And what we find is a golden dumpling, good for restoring all your health. Personally, I don't think eating gold-plated things is generally a healthy idea, but hey, it's a mystical time for a mystical ninja.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/platform1.jpg

Since we got the item, we now take the upper ladder to find more holes in the walkway and another doll. I would imagine Ebisumaru never usually does this much jumping normally, but then again, we haven't seen how physical his naked dance is yet, so who knows.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/rotating.jpg

Climbing another mysterious ladder, we come to a complete walkway, but this time they're rotating about an axle...but no, wait, they're rotating ON NOTHING. But surely there must be some mechanism...oh, no, nothing but wood. Now wait just a darn...oh hey! An enemy! Must smash...

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/caveentrance.jpg

And we come to the entrance to a cave. But wait...isn't this a volcano? Isn't there lava in there?

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/crater1.jpg

Oh hey. A cavern in the crater. I'm not dead! Wait...a killer accordion...thing?! Crap. On an aside, notice that there are a lot of...things in this game? Yeah. It's weird.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/crater2.jpg

Hooray! We made it past the thing! Okay, it's official. Thing is officially a technical term for this game. Mark it down.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/crater3.jpg

Remember the nonsensical rotating wooden platforms? Well, here's some nonsensical rotating stone platforms! Serioiusly, what is that powered by? Lava power?

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/craterexit.jpg

After some more accordion things, we make it to the exit. Good thing, too. Ebisumaru was getting cooked like the eggplant he looks like.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/summit.jpg

And we eventually end up here at a cavern with some snow. It must be the snow cap! We must have made it! (Feel free to paste in some mental pictures of some more walkways, ladders, and doll things before this picture. Go ahead. I'll wait.)

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/fujihouse.jpg

Inside is...a house. Far be it from me to question where the pipemaker builds his house, but it seems as if directly above a crater full of lava wouldn't be the wisest decision.

SilentSnake
09-04-2009, 06:58 PM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/impressed.jpg

What? Scaling an active volcano? Psh.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/greatest.jpg

You're running a pipe shop. What do you think I want? The other thing? Okay. Sure.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/worker.jpg

Uh...okay...I don't think you needed to come to a volcano for that. Now about that pipe...

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/starmark.jpg

Now we're talking.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/chain.jpg

Hooray!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/train.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/fashionable.jpg

Creepy...but thanks regardless!

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/status2.jpg

As you can see, Goemon receives the Chain Pipe. We will see it in action later.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/pot1.jpg

So now we finish exploring the summit and find a pot full of Ryo...

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/golddump1.jpg

...and another gold dumpling. Now it's time to go.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/fujifall.jpg

BASE JUMPING WITH ZERO CONSEQUENCES, BRAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Next Time: Chapter 4: It's What's On The Inside That Counts

ProfessorS
09-04-2009, 07:01 PM
This is a pleasant surprise.

DemoWeasel
09-04-2009, 07:33 PM
I really wish this game would be on Virtual Console =(

PapillonReel
09-04-2009, 10:39 PM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/fashionable.jpg

I don't particularly care for smoking, but I have to admit that is one fashionable pipe. Extendable too, just like in those old cartoons isn't it?

Kishi
09-04-2009, 11:42 PM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/thief1.jpg

pink kimonos

Pink cherry blossoms. Purple kimonos.


Also, why is it so villainous that they turned Edo Castle into a western-styled one? Because it's western styled. The games are sort of xenophobic. The villain of Ganbare Goemon 2 on the SNES is basically Admiral Perry and in the game after that, the villain is an evil Catholic nun who looks like Ebisumaru called Sister Bismaru. She's the villain again in Goemon's Great Adventure. So Goemon's basically saving Japan from the West. It's fairly good natured xenophobia as far as that stuff goes, though.

See also: Hoteimaru from Far East of Eden (http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/tengai/tengai.htm). You apparently just can't have feudal Japan without deluded Christians coming in, trying to ruin everything.


Shame how the series eventually became Gackt'd, like most everything else I love.

Not only did the DS game (http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/goemon/goemon5.htm) un-Gackt it, but you can apparently find New Age Goemon beaten up in a jail cell. It's not often that a game represents such incredible justice.


Goemon's basic weapon is the pipe. Nothing more needs to be said about it, as it doesn't really have any other special properties.

Goemon wields a kiseru, a type of metallic pipe that often doubled as a weapon for thugs in old Japan. So if you were wondering why a guy would hit things with a pipe, it's not just zany; it's history!


Goemon also has a second weapon by default. We can throw Ryo at enemies. This way, we can kill enemies from afar, but to do this, we need to sacrifice some money. I usually don't resort to this tactic, but it has some uses. Incidentally, comparisons to Setzer shall be in vain.

This hearkens to Zenigata Heiji (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenigata_Heiji), a fictional Edo lawman who disabled criminals by throwing zeni (read: coinage). He's served as the inspiration for everything from Lupin III's Zenigata Koichi (who sometimes throws handcuffs) to the Coin Toss ability in Final Fantasy. (In FFVII, Throw and Coin are both learned from the Throw materia, but dummied out of the game is a materia that just teaches Coin. Its name? Law.)

ThricebornPhoenix
09-05-2009, 06:02 AM
Sadly, this is my first exposure to Goemon. Maybe I should stop paying homage to long forgotten dark lords.

Far be it from me to question where the pipemaker builds his house, but it seems as if directly above a crater full of lava wouldn't be the wisest decision.
You obviously haven't been in the pipemaking business for very long.

(In FFVII, Throw and Coin are both learned from the Throw materia, but dummied out of the game is a materia that just teaches Coin. Its name? Law.)
I can't believe I didn't know this. My shame is boundless.

SpecBebop
09-05-2009, 09:41 AM
I can't wait to see everyone's favourite giant robot. The Impact scenes are by far my favourite part of this weird weird game.

dtsund
09-05-2009, 12:28 PM
This hearkens to Zenigata Heiji (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenigata_Heiji), a fictional Edo lawman who disabled criminals by throwing zeni (read: coinage). He's served as the inspiration for everything from Lupin III's Zenigata Koichi (who sometimes throws handcuffs) to the Coin Toss ability in Final Fantasy. (In FFVII, Throw and Coin are both learned from the Throw materia, but dummied out of the game is a materia that just teaches Coin. Its name? Law.)

And in the Advance translation of FFV, the Coin Toss ability is known as Zeninage.

Also, Zeni = Zenny? I've read some of the MMBN LP, and never knew that its money was supposed to be a pun...

Kishi
09-05-2009, 12:48 PM
Yeah, Capcom has used "zenny" in a lot of games, to the point that I've encountered gamers who think they invented the term. Toriyama used it in Dragon Ball, too.

fanboymaster
09-05-2009, 12:57 PM
I am unspeakably pleased to see this back, this game is a favorite of mine.

mopinks
09-05-2009, 01:02 PM
I really wish this game would be on Virtual Console =(

I wish this extra ever since my N64 just stopped functioning for reasons unknown :[

Not only did the DS game (http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/goemon/goemon5.htm) un-Gackt it, but you can apparently find New Age Goemon beaten up in a jail cell. It's not often that a game represents such incredible justice.

the DS Goemon was the first DS game I ever imported, because I wanted to make a difference.

I didn't make a difference!

MetManMas
09-05-2009, 01:06 PM
Heh, I remember playing through the whole of Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon via rental once. I'm sure I didn't see everything the game has to offer, but it was an enjoyably whacked-out experience, especially with the song numbers and canned laugh track. I'd love to see this game on Virtual Console, assuming they can emulate the Controller Pak support. I'm positive that most of the third-party carts supported the Controller Pak instead of having built-in backup more because the cartridges were already expensive enough to produce without it, instead of actually needing that extra space. Makes it kinda annoying to hunt down old titles when you don't have a CP, though.

Octopus Prime
09-05-2009, 01:08 PM
the DS Goemon was the first DS game I ever imported, because I wanted to make a difference.

I didn't make a difference!

The effort was appreciated

Dynastic Bird
09-06-2009, 07:13 AM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/silent_snake18/Fuji/crater1.jpg

Oh hey. A cavern in the crater. I'm not dead! Wait...a killer accordion...thing?! Crap. On an aside, notice that there are a lot of...things in this game? Yeah. It's weird.


I managed to get Ganbare Goemon 2 on the SFC, and, uh, I can't remember anything as zany as this. Wow.

On that note: yeah, I wish I got this game when it came out. And cared more about controller packs then >_>.

SpoonyBardOL
09-06-2009, 07:45 AM
Oh hell yeah, Goemon. I freakin love the Mystical Ninja games.

I even played through Goemon 2, 3, and 4 via emulation while following walkthroughs to understand what I was doing. Hell, I even ripped the SPCs from 2 and 4 which are still up at SNESmusic.org (I did 3 as well but apparently it's been replaced since).

It's much easier to see the evolution from the first SNES Goemon game, which we got, to the first N64 Goemon game when you've played the other SNES titles. Otherwise it's quite a leap. Ganbare Goemon 3 was probably the most like the Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon, and is also probably my favorite title of the SNES games.

This reminds me that I need to try and import Goemon DS someday. Especially hearing about their treatment of that god-awful New-Age poser. Being locked in jail is too good for that travesty.

Konami needs to return to this series. :(