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07-28-2008, 06:18 PM
Requested Nicknames(10 Character Length)
Any fire type - Chester
Geodude - Dolemite
Jigglypuff - AndreaBoce(m), NorahJones(f), Sinatra
Mr. Mime - Mr. Bungle
Nidoran(m) - SpikeAkmbo
Pidgey - CAWCAW
Pikachu - KRAKAUER
Spinda - Dreamcast
Teddiursa - #1 Threat
*Other* - Forum member names and/or real animals
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For my second Lets Play I thought I'd tackle something intimately familiar but quite unique to most of the people around here- a hacked version of Pokemon Fire Red made to be a graphical overhaul of the classic Pokemon Gold(for anyone interested, the patch is here (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537)). There are a few differences to the original version, but the main quest is mostly identical to the GBC release. The patch is currently in Beta 5, but it'll get me through to at least the Elite Four, which is the important party anyways. I'll be tackling this run through Gold with team suggestions mostly presented by you, the viewers, from my stable of captured Pokemon. Without further ado, lets get on with the show...

7/28/2008 - The Mystery Egg


Remember kids, pirating is bad.


The intro video is the same as in Fire Red. Hey, you can't expect a 100% overhaul in a beta release.


They did get a pretty snazzy title screen going, though.


Blah blah blah, study Pokemon, blah. Same old same old speech from every game in the series.


What, you're not going to just crotch-grab me like that time I ran into the President?


My character, Scott, returns from the Dragon Warrior Lets Play (http://www.gamespite.net/talkingtime/showthread.php?t=4228). I named the rival character R2 in honor of resident Pokemon Master R^2.


Our character is popped out in his bedroom and our adventure begins!

07-28-2008, 06:30 PM

First things first, I take my single potion out of my PC. The PC magically stores an excess items from your fixed-size bag. I honestly can't say I've ever run out of space on any of the games past Ruby and Sapphire when they redesigned the inventory system, though.


I guess I should probably go pay him a visit. I wonder what a famous Pokemon professor would want with a 10 year old kid, though.


Before leaving my mom gives me a PHONE CARD and a POKEBEEPER. These function like the cell phone in the original, letting you call important NPCs and get challenged to rematches from certain random trainers. Even if you tell her you know what they do she still takes the time to explain their function- she must not think her son is very smart.

07-28-2008, 06:31 PM

I find the Professor's lab next door. He tells me that he has a friend named MR.POKEMON and that he's discovered something amazing. The professor is too busy to be bothered to go get it himself, so he recruited the nearest kid to go pick it up for him. That's us!


Thankfully, though, he's at least offered us a Pokemon to help in our travels. Never let a pre-teen travel the world without one!


Now Talking Time, the choice is up to you! Do I take Cyndaquil (fire), Totodile (water) or Chikorita (grass) for my trip?

07-28-2008, 06:33 PM
Cyndaquil is the only possible choice here. By far the best of the GSC starters.

Does this have the day/night cycle? I seem to recall that FireRed didn't. If it does, I demand Espeon.

07-28-2008, 06:34 PM
I doesn't have day/night, but the hacker added sun/moon stones (or something like that) specifically to evolve things that would normally take the clock to evolve.

07-28-2008, 06:34 PM
I've played through with Cyndaquil and Totodile. I say Chikorita!

Mr. Sensible
07-28-2008, 06:35 PM
Totodile, because I have never picked the Water-type starter in a Pokemon game.

This is making me want to finish up Diamond, but I am really not looking forward to grinding levels for several hours in that stupid cave.

07-28-2008, 06:38 PM
This LP... excites me.

This is the only Pokemon generation where the grass starter isn't my favorite of the bunch. So I'm going to say Totodile, since I used Cyndaquil when I played through the game a billion years ago.

07-28-2008, 06:56 PM
I'll throw in a vote for Totodile since it amuses me, and the last time I played a pokemon game I picked Squirtle, so water types for life.

07-28-2008, 07:03 PM
Get equipped with Totodile! He's got moxie.

07-28-2008, 07:14 PM

07-28-2008, 07:38 PM
Ha ha, Pokemon. Good stuff. The last one I played was Silver, actually; and I logged way too many hours on it during the graveyard shift at work (in 2001... man, time flies).

I picked Cyndaquil, who probably is the best one... so I'll go with Chikorita. :] It's the weakest-looking, so the rival's viciousness makes a bit more sense (unlike with, say, Totodile-- "What a pathetic-looking crocoh Pokegods my arm"). Seriously, Gary/Blue was a right jerk; but Silver is just mean.

07-28-2008, 07:44 PM
Sigh... I had just gotten my penultimate badge in Silver when someone smashed my car window and grabbed the GBC from the back seat. Thanks, TheSL! Now the memories can be put to rest. And in memory of Ash, my faithful Cyndaquil, I cast a vote to walk down the flaming road.

07-28-2008, 07:44 PM
I went ahead and started with Totodile since he had the most votes when I went back to playing. I love Chikorita and Cyndaquil too, but I was also itching to continue playing!

Anyone have a preference whether I list all the Pokedex entries of what I capture or not? Or would you guys rather just see what I have and miss out on the flavor text?

07-28-2008, 08:14 PM

Taking the Totodile, I am now ready to set out on my quest. I went with the name of "Snapper" for the little guy because I somehow thought it was fitting; I don't plan on giving custom names to all the random catches unless someone has a specific request.


Next stop, CHERRYGROVE city! The Professor did give me his phone number in case he needs to talk to me for some reason.


This random guy seems to be spying on the professor's lab. He pushes us away for being nosy, but you can't help being suspicious...


On the way out of town an random trainer, CARLOS, attacks us with his Squirttle. Snapper is the same typing as Squirttle and 2 levels than his opponent, so he goes down like a chump. I don't remember someone like CARLOS attacking me in the original Gold, does anyone know if he was something added in the Crystal version or if this is just an extra of this hack?

07-28-2008, 08:15 PM
We want to name all your pokemans.

07-28-2008, 08:19 PM
I'm a little disappointed that you didn't take Charmander.

...wait, no Charmander? *immediate loss of interest in game goes here*

07-28-2008, 08:19 PM
Wow, ugh. Least endearing starters ever.

07-28-2008, 08:19 PM
Ok, so since there are potentially something like 380+ guys to catch in this version how about giving a nickname for specific Pokemon? First come first served, name your favorite species!

07-28-2008, 08:27 PM
is eevee in this one?

07-28-2008, 08:27 PM
Spinda - Dreamcast

I'll have more later :S

07-28-2008, 08:28 PM

On the way to CHERRYGROVE I ran into some random monsters, but I don't have access to any poke balls right now so we have to just scratch the hell out of them and move on. An interesting thing to note is that since this is a hack of Fire Red, there are a few of the later generation monsters like Zigzagoon running about in Johto as well.


At level 7 our little Snapper learns RAGE. This move gathers energy for a few turns while he takes damage then releases it in one big blow.


MR.POKEMON's house is supposed to be somewhere near here, but he's not actually in the city. This is the first town where we run into a Pokemon center- this is the equivalent of an Inn in any other RPG, but they're totally free. Since the cell phone was changed to a phone card and beeper, a town phone has also been added to this(and every other) city.

Just north of town there are two paths...


...the first is blocked by a Pokemon battle. The kids get pretty annoyed that I interrupted their match.


...the second path leads directly to MR.POKEMON's house. It seems rather redundant to post two signposts declaring this less than a couple hundred feet apart from each other.

07-28-2008, 08:37 PM
is eevee in this one?

Yes. Bill gives you one completely free in GOLDENROD city.


MR.POKEMON gets right to business and gives us a MYSTERY EGG to deliver back to Professor Elm. I wonder what it could be? [Its a Togepi.]


Professor Oak just happens to be hanging out here as well. He gives us a Pokedex for the hell of it too, because everyone can trust expensive prototype Pokemon database equipment to random 10 year olds.


Professor Oak bows out to go host his popular (?) radio show in GOLDENROD city, leaving us to get back to delivering this MYSTERY EGG.


After leaving MR.POKEMON's house, we get a page from Elm telling us to hurry back to his lab! Whatever could have happened?!

07-28-2008, 08:45 PM

On the way back to town that shady looking redhead attacks us!


He's got a rare Chikorita! How suspicious!


Without any of its grass moves, though, my higher level Snapper takes him out easily.


Its R^2!


The cops are already on the scene writing a police report(much faster than real life!) and find out that we already fought the perp. It turns out that R^2, in fact, stole his Chikorita from the lab here. With him taking the role of the villain I almost feel like I should have named him CALORIEMATE instead so we'd have someone to blame.

07-28-2008, 08:54 PM

The professor is amazed that the MYSTERY EGG appears to be a pokemon egg. You'd think it would be required to study the mating habits of Pokemon in order to graduate with a PhD in Pokemon Studies, though.


When I told the professor that Oak also gave me a Pokedex while I was there, he urges me to make my way towards VIOLET CITY and my first pokemon gym.


Before leaving town, Elm's assistant gives us 5 POKE BALLS and our mom gives up an AMULET COIN and RUNNING SHOES. The amulet coin takes the place of mom's banking in the original version of Gold and Silver; it gives double money from trainer battles if you have it equipped to a participating pokemon.


I make my way back over to CHERRYGROVE to the item store and stock up on more POKE BALLS. Time to get catching!

07-28-2008, 09:05 PM


These are the Pokemon I was able to pick up in the initial areas of the game. None of these guys have nicknames now, but whenever I reach the name changer I can swap them to any requested names.


My team lies in your hands Talking Time. I'm treating Snapper as my "main character", but you have 5 open slots to fill with any of these 8 guys.


07-28-2008, 09:07 PM

If you would. I never quite liked Hoothoot and Rattata.

07-28-2008, 09:10 PM

Gotta use Sentret. It evolves into a ferret. If you don't want a ferret, I'm afraid you have no soul.

07-28-2008, 09:30 PM
Such base accusations. I breed all my own Pokemon, thankyouverymuch, and have no reason to steal from anyone.

07-28-2008, 09:36 PM
Gotta use Sentret. It evolves into a ferret. If you don't want a ferret, I'm afraid you have no soul.

This man knows where it's at. I mean, could you say no to a face like this?


Also: You should name every Pokémon you catch after their real-world counterpart.

Pajaro Pete
07-28-2008, 10:06 PM
I find the thought of a forty pound owl absolutely terrifying.

07-28-2008, 10:31 PM
My team lies in your hands Talking Time.

Jigglypuff, Sentret, Hoothoot, Pidgey, and another Jigglypuff. They're squishy.

We want to name all your pokemans.

Isn't that the whole point of Pokemon LPs? :)

Also: You should name every Pokémon you catch after their real-world counterpart.

Like Jigglypuff --Andrea Bocelli. :D

Unless it's female, then it's NorahJones.

07-28-2008, 11:12 PM
Take Jigglypuff, and name him Sinatra.

07-28-2008, 11:18 PM
It does my heart good to see that love for Sentret is so widespread.

(use him!)

Also, Caterpie might be a good choice, since Butterfree learns a psychic move or two fairly early, I think.

The Dread Cthulhu
07-29-2008, 12:44 AM
Also: You should name every Pokémon you catch after their real-world counterpart.

Octopus Prime
07-29-2008, 02:42 AM
Put in the Weedle and make him a Beedrill as soon as possible.

07-29-2008, 03:22 AM
I don't know Pokemon types anymore but I want a fire Pokemon named Chester.
Name Pidgey CAWCAW. Or something clever. Either way.
Rattata can be Rikki-Tikki-Tavi. However much of that fits.

Don't care about the team except including Jigglypuff. <3

07-29-2008, 04:40 AM
Isn't that the whole point of Pokemon LPs? :)

My purpose was to use a different team than normal to get a different playthrough than I normally would. I don't mind naming stuff, but when I'm catching 10+ monsters per play session and I have to name them on the spot until I reach the name changer guy it gets kind of tedious.

By the way, the character limit is 10 for nicknames guys. My next update probably won't be until this evening since work has been really busy lately.

07-29-2008, 04:51 AM
I certainly wouldn't want to LP a Pokemon game and that's a big reason why. But, well, that's how these things go... If you amass a list of potential names early on will probably help.

Octopus Prime
07-29-2008, 04:57 AM
I humbly request a male Nidoran named "Spikes Akimbo"

07-29-2008, 06:09 AM
Oh, I forgot to mention that the name changer guy is in GOLDENROD city (the location of the third gym) so you guys won't have to wait too long to rename these initial guys.

07-29-2008, 06:34 AM
I figure you should just use forum member names, starting with the most frequent posters and working your way down.

Or just name all of them Mr. Bungle.

Or at least get a Mr. Mime and name it Mr. Bungle!

07-29-2008, 08:22 AM
I'm a little disappointed that you didn't take Charmander.

...wait, no Charmander? *immediate loss of interest in game goes here*

You can buy one at the Game Center in GOLDENROD city in this version, though. Assuming I have the patience to play slots for however long, that is.

07-29-2008, 08:30 AM
I don't know anything about the pokeymans, but it would be awesome if you named something REALLY REALLY SWEET after me.

Like, something with a giant oversized brain. Yeah, that'd be just fine.

07-29-2008, 08:47 AM
You can buy one at the Game Center in GOLDENROD city in this version, though. Assuming I have the patience to play slots for however long, that is.

Just Charmander, or could you get all three? In any case, it'd be swell if you did pick him up, since Charmander's my favourite of the original three starters.

07-29-2008, 08:54 AM
Just Charmander, or could you get all three? In any case, it'd be swell if you did pick him up, since Charmander's my favourite of the original three starters.

All three of them are in the game, but they're all in different locations. Hell, even the RSE starters are wild in this version.

07-29-2008, 10:08 AM
is Pikachu relatively easy to catch in this? If so, you need to catch one and name it KRAKAUER. :)

07-29-2008, 05:20 PM
5/29/2008 - The First Gym Challenge and Sprout Tower


Thanks to your input this is my current team. None of these guys have nicknames yet, but that'll be remedied by the time I reach GOLDENROD. Onwards, to the first gym!


Whenever you walk near a trainer he will lock onto you and challenge you to a battle if you happen into his line of sight. Yes, you could avoid everyone all stealthy-like, but then you would be sorely underleveled for the gym challenges later on.

Turns out the kid that was blocking the path with his earlier battle lost. Lets hope the Glass Joe of Pokemon battles doesn't give us much trouble!


I'm focusing on leveling Weedle (because he evolves quickly) and Sentret (because Talking Time loves him). The first random trainer's Ratata faints in no time.


I had totally forgotten about the Amulet Coin mom had given me earlier, but I tossed it on Weedle after the battle.


A few battles down the road we come upon the DARK CAVE. While its pitch black right now (preventing us from venturing much past the entrance), it does have one new Pokemon that we can catch right now:




I also caught one of the random Ratata so I could give him the requested RikkiTikki nickname.

07-29-2008, 05:28 PM

Just a bit west of the DARK CAVE is our destination, VIOLET CITY.


The first gym is near the middle of town, I wonder if we'll be able to handle Falkner and his bird Pokemon within?


CARLOS is milling around inside the gym and challenges us to another battle. Weedle was able to poison his Eevee near the start of the battle, but I eventually had to swap out to Snapper to sweep CARLOS' team. He gives us a lame excuse about how they were weak because of the gym challenge, but they sure seemed to have full HP to me.


One interesting thing to note about this gym was the fact that the floor tiles form a US dollar symbol. Back when I was 16 and thought I was clever I always thought it was rubbing the fact that Pokemon prints money in our faces.


The apprentices of this gym are both bird keepers, with Spearow and Pidgey, and go down without much of a fight. Weedle levels up to level 7 after the second battle and...

07-29-2008, 05:40 PM

I'm the proud owner of a new Kakuna! Kakuna learns HARDEN upon level up- it raises defense of the user one level.


FALKNER is the leader of the VIOLET CITY gym. His team consists merely of a Pidgey and Pidgeotto, both of the NORMAL/FLYING typing. We don't have anything particularly strong against either of those types, so I guess we'll see how it goes.


Kakuna was able to take down the Pidgey pretty easily thanks to a lucky poison from his POISON STING and copious use of HARDEN. After the beating he took from one hit of Pidgeotto, though, I had to swap him out for Snapper.


Snapper's RAGE earned its keep on the ability list after the beating he took against Pidgeotto. The increased attack power over time is the only reason that my team didn't get wiped by FALKNER.


Every time you beat a gym you get two things- a badge and a TM. The badge just proves that you defeated the gym master, and occasionally lets you use an HM (I'll explain later) move outside of battle. A TM (or "Technical Machine") allows your Pokemon to learn a special move. The ones obtained from gym leaders are unique, not available anywhere else in the game. In addition, TMs are only able to used a single time. Choose when to use them wisely!

07-29-2008, 06:17 PM

Leaving the gym, I get a page from Elm on my POKEBEEPER. He tells me that he's found something out about that egg and that I should meet his assistant at the local Pokemon Center.


He tries to give me that MYSTERY EGG from earlier. I decline, but mostly because I don't have any room in my current team to take him. After depositing my Caterpie...


Now that we have an open spot on the team we can actually take the EGG back off his hands. It turns out that the EGG won't hatch unless its around other active Pokemon, meaning our team. I'll be carrying around this egg for the rest of today's LP, but its up to you whether or not I even bother to hatch the [Togepi].

07-29-2008, 06:40 PM

Next up is the Bellsprout Tower. I think this was supposed to be tackled before the gym leader, but oh well. The people inside claim that the 100 foot tower support used to be a single Bellsprout.


This is the reason why we're here- our first HM. HMs are like TMs, in that they teach your Pokemon a new move, but they can be reused as many times as you'd like. All HMs have an out of battle use to get around environment puzzles; the one here is FLASH that will illuminate places like the DARK CAVE.


There are a 1/2 dozen Monks between me and the summit. Most of the Pokemon they send out are Bellsprout (naturally), but a couple of them have Hoothoot as well. A few battles later, Kakuna hits level 10...


...and evolved into a Beedrill! He also learns the move FURY ATTACK. Its a normal-type move that hits multiple times in a row on a single turn.


When we reach the summit, R^2 is already there. The tower master gives him an HM, but then chastises him for being too obsessed over having a winning team. Pokemon are made for love, not war (yeah, right).

07-29-2008, 06:53 PM

R^2 complains about how weak the elder is and then runs away with an ESCAPE ROPE. Aww, I was hoping for a rematch.


Now that he's gone, I can properly challenge the tower master for his HM as well. His team is really no different than any of the other monks on the way up here, so Beedrill takes down all of them quickly. HM05 FLASH is now ours! It requires the Zephyr Bade to use outside of battle, but thanks to our victory against FALKNER that's no problem for us. With everything done here (outside of potentially searching for a Ghastly later), I use an ESCAPE ROPE to exit the tower.


This is my current team. I've been focusing on Sentret since Beedrill evolved, but Snapper is probably the closest one to evolving. Choose my team Talking Time!

Potential Monsters to swap in:

Next Time - To the second gym!

Octopus Prime
07-29-2008, 06:58 PM
Hey, I've got my Beedrill, that's all I wanted. I could stand to eventually see a Pidgeot, though.

Also, I vote you leave the egg unhatched. I don't want to see that horrible... thing... inside it for a long, long time.

07-29-2008, 08:45 PM
Y'know, Beedrill was Link's favourite, back in Super Squad. Perhaps we should name this one after Loki?

And by that, of course, I mean that the Beedrill should be named DIRTYDANCN.

As for the current lineup -- I like the idea of getting Pidgey into the mix, and naming him Brando. A pigeon for a pigeon (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047296/), as they say.

Edit: Forgot to say -- let sleeping eggs lie.

07-29-2008, 08:56 PM
Y'know, Beedrill was Link's favourite, back in Super Squad. Perhaps we should name this one after Loki?

And by that, of course, I mean that the Beedrill should be named DIRTYDANCN.

Oh man, that's the best name idea ever. I loved that comic. (http://www.drunkduck.com/Nintendo_Super_Squad/index.php?p=193963)

07-29-2008, 10:05 PM
Forget Jigglypuff, lets put in Geodude.

I always loved using High Def pokemans so I wouldnt have to walk to a healing center after every battle.

07-30-2008, 12:46 AM
Man, you should use the Geodude and name it Dolemite. I dunno how easy it will be for you to evolve to golem though, hacked game and all, so it might be a waste of time.

I love DirtyDancn wild ways.

07-30-2008, 08:43 AM
Wow, that egg gets no love. I don't blame you guys, though, because he doesn't get decent until D/P when they add his third evolution form.

I'm thinking I'll be able to get quite a few more Pokemon in tonight's session, so hopefully that'll mix up the lineup a bit more than yesterday. :)

07-30-2008, 08:45 AM
Teddiursa - #1 Threat

07-30-2008, 10:06 AM
i don't mind tokepi, but GEODUDE.

07-30-2008, 10:10 AM
Teddiursa - #1 Threat

Wait, they have bears now? He should be named Colbert or something.

And whats wrong with the egg? Hatch it and im sure someone will think of a funny name for it.

07-30-2008, 10:49 AM
And whats wrong with the egg? Hatch it and im sure someone will think of a funny name for it.

Since no one was that keen on me keeping it right now, I figured I'd wait and hatch it when I get access to the bike. If anyone needs photo inspiration to name it, this is what it is. (http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/175.shtml)

07-30-2008, 10:50 AM

07-30-2008, 11:01 AM
Every time I see the "Gotta Catch 'em All!" thread title on "Last Post" for this subforum, I think it's the Suikoden thread. @_@

07-30-2008, 08:25 PM
Wait, they have bears now? He should be named Colbear or something.

07-30-2008, 09:10 PM
Sorry, no update tonight because I finally broke down and bought Soul Calibur IV. I did get to play a little bit, though, and I'll update first thing in the morning(assuming I'm not swamped at work).

07-31-2008, 06:35 AM
8/31/2008 - The Road to the Second Gym, Part 1

Today's starting lineup:


Since there was so little interest in the egg I dropped him out of the party. I replaced Hoothoot with Pidgey as well.


Before leaving town I stocked up on more Pokeballs with the cash I gained from the gym and Sprout Tower. I've now got 30 in stock to try and diversify this group a little more.


On the edge of town there is a TRICK HOUSE. The owner of the house has set up a maze with a few trainers and items strewn about. This particular maze is a mix of teleport platforms and darkness. We've got the perfect thing to get past that second part-


Flash! I taught it to Jigglypuff because he was the only one in my active team that could learn the HM. I always thought it was weird that the monsters learn TM/HMs through osmosis with a CD.


There was a super potion and an ultra ball hidden in the dungeon. The only notable thing about the trainer battles was that Snapper learned his first water move, Water Gun.


The owner of the trick house was surprised that we made it all the way through his maze. He gave us a great ball for our troubles (one level below the ball we found in the maze) and tells us to come back later, boasting that his next maze will surely stump us.

07-31-2008, 06:49 AM

To the west of the trick house is a strange "tree" blocking the road. There's nothing we can do about this right now, so I head south into the Alph Ruins.


The Alph ruins are home to the Pokemon Unown. Unown is more or less useless in general since they only learn Hidden Power and have low stats overall. There is a puzzle here that you can do in the ruins, but I'm too lazy to do that right now.


I did catch an "A" Unown, though. I named him Fonzie.


Further down the road a random trainer gives us a Miracle Seed item to attach to one of our Pokemon. A Miracle Seed will power up any grass type moves on a monster...of which we have none. Hopefully all this grass around here will remedy that soon, though.


Mareep, Mareep, an electric sheep!

The Haul

Mareep, Bellsprout and Zubat are what I was able to catch around here. I'm particularly fond of Zubat since he eventually evolves into the speed demon Crobat, but again, my team choices are in your hands.


I named my Zubat Alucard, by the way. Yes, I know its a female, but Ayami Kojima's designs have always been a little androgynous.

07-31-2008, 07:02 AM

A bit further up the road a shady character is hanging out, harassing anyone that passes by to purchase his tasty SLOWPOKETAIL. He only wants a cool 1,000,000 for it, 1 more dollar than you can ever achieve in the Pokemon games before it maxes out. Knowing this (and that a poor Slowpoke is out there tailless), I pass on his offer. The man gets all offended and tells me to get the hell out of there.


Stopping in to the Pokemon Center for a break, I notice that one of the random NPCs is a fisherman. He gives me and Old Rod for taking the time to talk to him. The Old Rod is the crappiest one available, used to catch one of the world's most useless Pokemon, the Magikarp. I'll try and remember to do that next time I'm near a body of water.


Just outside the Pokemon Center is the entrance to Union Cave. This is where I'll be leaving us for now until the next update.


The available lineup is a little more diverse than it had been prior.

Swappable Monsters
Ratata [Normal]
Hoothoot [Normal/Flying]
Metapod [Bug]
Zubat [Flying/Poison]
Unown [Psychic]
Mareep [Electric]
Bellsprout [Grass/Poison]
Egg [???]

As always, [B]the choice is yours Talking Time!

Next Time: The Road to the Second Gym, part 2

07-31-2008, 07:02 AM
I named my Zubat Alucard, by the way.
That's what I named mine!

Yes, I know its a female, but Ayami Kojima's designs have always been a little androgynous.

Oh snap!

Octopus Prime
07-31-2008, 07:24 AM
You freakin' better put a Magikarp in your party.

Also, note that I said Magikarp, not Gyarados. I don't hold water with any of that evil-lution non-sense.

07-31-2008, 07:53 AM
Oh, and by the way guys- I found out if I search around Route 4 Spoink is one of the rare Pokemon that I can catch there. I know all of you seem to love him in that Emerald thread.

07-31-2008, 07:54 AM
I vote that you put Mareep in, because I dream of electric sheep.

And everyone else should too.

07-31-2008, 07:57 AM
Teaching a Pokemon a TM/HM would make more sense if you applied the CD while they were in the digital form used to keep them in the Pokeball or PC storage, but nope, just slap the CD up to Jigglypuff's pompadour and you're done. It's quite bizarre.

My Unown tribe was named Aye, Bee, See, Dee, Ii, Eff, Gee, Ache, and so on. Good call on Fonzie though.

I vote you drop Pidgey in favor of Zubat, and Jigglypuff in favor of something that isn't Jigglypuff. Mareep I guess, for type coverage.

07-31-2008, 08:49 AM
Mareep Mareep the Electric Sheep!!

07-31-2008, 09:21 AM
I just noticed that Dirtydancing and Snapper are waaay ahead of everyone else in your group. Will the others catch up?

07-31-2008, 09:23 AM
I'm working on Sentret right now, but I know that the third gym is bitch hard so I'm trying to get a few guys overleveled.

07-31-2008, 09:33 AM

Dynastic Bird
07-31-2008, 09:56 AM


Uh, can you trade? He can't evolve without it.

Yeah, Mareep instead of Jiggly and I think we all want a Crobat at some point due to being a four winged bat. Oh, and it's happiness evolution like Togepi, so it's best to start now.

The Dread Cthulhu
07-31-2008, 10:09 AM
Not only should you use Zubat, you should catch every single Zubat you come across.

Also Mareep, because it seems to go sheep-sheep with lack of wool-kangaroo.

You know about the cheap trick for Whitney?

07-31-2008, 10:11 AM
Teaching a Pokemon a TM/HM would make more sense if you applied the CD while they were in the digital form used to keep them in the Pokeball or PC storage, but nope, just slap the CD up to Jigglypuff's pompadour and you're done. It's quite bizarre.

It's all very technical. You wouldn't understand.

07-31-2008, 10:13 AM
You know about the cheap trick for Whitney?

I wasn't aware there was one...? I always just overlevel a guy or two and deliver a beatdown.

The Dread Cthulhu
07-31-2008, 11:48 AM
It's probably different because I did this on Crystal, but there's a boy on floor 4 of the Department store who wants to trade your Abra for his Machop. The idea is to redo the trade until you get a female Machop, which does lots of damage to Whitney's Normals and is completely immune to Attract.

I don't view it as cheating, really, because Attract is already a game breaker.

07-31-2008, 11:53 AM
Well, thankfully Snapper is a female so hopefully this will be easier than my other times through the Normal type gym.

07-31-2008, 12:09 PM
I named my Zubat Alucard, by the way. Yes, I know its a female, but Ayami Kojima's designs have always been a little androgynous.
That right there is more than enough room for "Alucarda."

This is amusing, the last Pokemon I played was Gold and since my friend and I were playing in Japanese we were usually not sure what we were doing.

07-31-2008, 12:10 PM
I didn't know this thread exited, and I'm glad that I now know it does.

07-31-2008, 07:57 PM
Its going to be another morning update for me. This time there's more content, though.


07-31-2008, 08:20 PM
Its going to be another morning update for me. This time there's more content, though.

Magikarp is a beast.

08-01-2008, 06:14 AM
8/1/2008 - The Case of the Missing Slowpoke Tails


This is today's starting lineup. Pidgey and Jigglypuff were dropped from the group, but I'll probably still use Jiggly for HM moves.


Before going through the Union Cave I explored the grass a little more near the Pokemon Center. I was able to find one more Pokemon, a Hopip.


Union cave is filled with mostly hiker-type trainers, meaning that their primary Pokemon type is rock and/or Machops. This means its almost free experience through here since Snapper's water gun can one-hit KO all the rock monsters.


There are a few items around here hidden behind movable rocks, but they can't be pushed until later when we get the HM for STRENGTH.


I was able to find a Sandshew around here as well. I've never bothered to use one of these seriously before, but they make really good HM slaves (i.e. teach them four HM moves instead of useful battle ones).


Since there was some water in here (and I promised a Magikarp last play session) I decided I should try fishing. What's on the line?

08-01-2008, 06:24 AM

I was surprised, but I guess this rod can catch more than just Magikarp. Goldeen was a little annoying to catch thanks to its supersonic attack that confused Sentret, but I was still able to capture it.


On the second try I was able to hook a Magikarp. This fish is totally worthless for its entire life as a Magikarp, learning only Splash (which does no damage) and tackle. If you stick with it long enough, though, he'll evolve into a Gyarados and kick all kinds of ass. In any other Pokemon game I'd level one up, but you'll come across a stronger Red Gyrados later in the game that you're required to battle.


There are a few more interesting battles near the exit of the cave, throwing Koffings and Vulpix at me instead of the rock Pokemon from the hikers. These still go down easily to one or two water gun attacks. We reach the exit and continue upon the short stretch of Route 33 to our destination.


On the outskirts of town there is a well dubbed SLOWPOKE WELL. It seems the Slowpoke are revered here because their yawns were able to end a drought some time ago. There is a guy in a black suit with a big red "R" on the front of it guarding the well, claiming that its unsafe to enter for some reason or another. Seems kind of suspicious...

08-01-2008, 06:32 AM

It seems that the locals of AZELEA TOWN are in distress because of the disappearance of their beloved Slowpoke. They have heard rumors of the tails being sold somewhere (just the other side of union cave (http://www.gamespite.net/talkingtime/showpost.php?p=234196&postcount=70)), but no one has any idea where they went.


Another one of the "R" guys is blocking the entrance to the second gym too. He seems to be some kind of Slowpoke Tail salesman, hyping up the quality of the fine meat.


Old Kurt here makes custom pokeballs out of any acorns we can find strewn about in plants. He says he doesn't have time to make some for us now, though, because Team Rocket has returned and they're up to no good at the Slowpoke Well!


08-01-2008, 06:49 AM

Returning to the Slowpoke Well, the Team Rocket guard is now gone. I wonder where he ran off to?


It turns out that Kurt yelled at the Rocket member and then they both stumbled down the well. Kurt gives us a few words to encouragement and tells us to go on and save the Slowpokes in his place.


There are only three or four Rockets down here, but take note that Giovanni's crew is an equal opportunity employer in their underground Pokemon smuggling. Most Rocket members carry the same Pokemon, usually a Koffing, Ekans, Ratata and/or Zubat.


Sentret was able to take down the first couple members of the gang, learning Fury Swipes in the process. This move is almost identical to DIRTYDANCN's Fury Attack except that its a tiny bit stronger and a tiny bit less accurate.


Near the leader of this group of Rockets is a Slowpoke with a piece of mail. The letter is from Kurt's son, telling his child to look after Kurt and the Slowpoke; looks like that toddler did a real bang up job here, letting the Rockets steal the Slowpoke.

08-01-2008, 07:00 AM

In the couple steps between the Slowpoke and the Rocket leader I ran into a wild Spinark. I named him "The Fear" in honor of the Cobra Unit member.


The Rocket Leader only has a single Koffing to his name, and Snapper was able to demolish the thing. Nice to see Team Rocket still lives up to their name as a group of losers endlessly trying to steal the same Pokemon over and over.


The Rocket Leader tells us that yes, they did "break up" three years ago, but they've continued on in secret. It seems this meeting hasn't deterred them from continued mischief, though, and he runs off to stir up trouble at a later date.


After the Rocket leaves, Kurt approaches us and invites us back to his home. He offers to make us balls in the future and gives us a Net Ball for our troubles in the Slowpoke Well. A Net Ball has 3x as much chance to catch a bug or water type monster as a regular pokeball.


Now that we've taken care of the Rockets we can finally enter the second Gym, Bugsy's Bug-type Botanical Gardens. CARLOS is here again and (optionally) offers to battle us in our first doubles Pokemon match.

08-01-2008, 07:17 AM

Snapper and DIRTYDANCN go to town on CARLOS' Wartortle and Eevee. The interesting thing to note about doubles battles is that you've generally got to cover more types simultaneously than in a normal one on one. Also, some of the moves (like Swift that Wartortle used) hit multiple monsters at once. Sometimes having moves like that in your corner can make or break a match like this. Snapper finally reached level 18 in this match as well.


Duh-duh-da-da! Snapper has evolved into a Croconaw! Oh, and don't be surprised when she gets even uglier the next time she levels up.


There's one more doubles battle with the random apprentice trainers in the gym. Everyone here has 100% bug rosters- nothing I'm strong against, but nothing that gives me trouble either. The last fight before the leader had some HOT BEEDRILL ON BEEDRILL ACTION. There was some DIRTYDANCN going down if you know what I mean. *wink*wink*

08-01-2008, 07:28 AM

The gym leader, Bugsy, claims to be the authority on bug Pokemon. Well, we'll see about that!


She starts the battle with a Metapod followed by a Kakuna. I'd say if you're really the foremost authority on bug Pokemon you'd want to lead with a better moveset than [tackle/string shot/harden] and [poison sting/string shot/harden]. She does turn around a bit with her last choice, Scyther, my win was a foregone conclusion by that point.


Bugsy gives us the HIVEBADGE for defeating her. In addition to letting us use the HM CUT outside of battle, it does something that I forgot to mention before- allows us to use Pokemon up to a level cap of 30. With the sole exception of your starting monster, any time you overlevel a monster beyond your current cap it will begin to disobey you. Yes, it will still do the right thing from time to time, but more often than not it will slack off or take a nap instead.

We also got TM49 Fury Cutter. This move has a very low starting power, but significantly raises it for each successive hit landed.

08-01-2008, 07:32 AM

I'm a terrible person.

08-01-2008, 07:40 AM

Before leaving town R^2 challenges us to another battle. He seems to think we're lying that we beat down Team Rocket earlier; I guess he has a higher opinion of them than the rest of the world.


R^2 had a few new additions to his team, including a Gastly from the Sprout Tower as well as his bitch-hard Bayleaf. Beedrill was eventually able to take Bayleaf down and learned the move Focus Energy in the process, forgetting String Shot. This move increases the chance of your monster landing a critical hit against its opponent.


"Blah blah blah, I don't understand the definition of weakling since I just got my ass handed to me by you"


We've got a few more Pokemon this time around, but not that different than before. Sentret is getting fairly close to evolving at level 16 as well. The next town is GOLDENROD city, with the promise of Eevee and Charmander in its paved premises. Once again, any team substitutions are in your hands Talking Time.

Next time: Farfetch'd Tag, You're It!

08-01-2008, 07:42 AM
I'm a terrible person.

Its hard to not think something like that when there are capital BALLS staring you down, so I don't blame you.

08-01-2008, 07:43 AM
So we can't adopt the crippled Slowpoke and hold special ed cockfighting matches? wah.

08-01-2008, 07:50 AM
So we can't adopt the crippled Slowpoke and hold special ed cockfighting matches? wah.

No, but I guess I should probably go back there an catch a healthy one, huh?

08-01-2008, 08:03 AM
No, but I guess I should probably go back there an catch a healthy one, huh?

Only if you name him TIMMAH!!

08-01-2008, 09:43 AM
I think Bugsy's actually a guy...

08-01-2008, 09:46 AM
I think Bugsy's actually a guy...

I always figured it was a woman because of the short shorts. Shows what I know. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bugsy) :(

08-01-2008, 10:21 AM
Oh man, if you pick up Charmander, that would be totally boss. Not sure what to name him, though.

08-01-2008, 10:22 AM
I thought the earlier ambiguous "fire pokemon" name of Chester sounded nice. Chester Charmander.

08-01-2008, 10:22 AM
I thought the earlier ambiguous "fire pokemon" name of Chester sounded nice. Chester Charmander.

Chester... yeah. Sure, why not? It does have a nice ring to it.

08-01-2008, 10:30 AM
I thought it was common practice to name all Char* critters "Aznable."

08-01-2008, 10:32 AM
The evolved crocodile looks kinda like godzilla.

So is "The Fear" any good? Ive never seen a lot of these 'mons.

08-01-2008, 12:28 PM
I remember using Spinarak a bit in my G/S days, I guess because I thought spiders are cool or something. It's not bad, at any rate; I'd like to see it swapped in. If it evolves all the way, instead of just a little spider, you'll have a damn big spider, which is worth it just for the intimidation factor.

08-01-2008, 12:55 PM
Spinark isn't terrible, but it does take him until the 20s to get a decent moveset going without TMs. I could potentially swap him in for something, but I need input on who will be voted out of the party.

08-01-2008, 02:13 PM
Team Rocket? Team Rocket can suck on my balls. (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/377178)

08-01-2008, 02:47 PM
Oh my god, it... it doesn't end.

08-01-2008, 03:31 PM
Oh my god, it... it doesn't end. (http://leekspin2.ytmnd.com/)
Fix'd for Great Justice!

08-01-2008, 03:42 PM
Fix'd for Great Justice!

More relevant leek spin. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rL1kfvkR-s)

08-01-2008, 07:04 PM
I'd just like to remind you all that that R^2 is a shallow imposter and will remain thus until he stomps TheSL into the ground with a twinked-out Electivire. Or if it's a doubles match, Shuckle/Slaking.

Spinarak is garbage, guys. No two ways about it. Hoppip is a blazin' fast status-master but lol look at all those type weaknesses (and we already have Zubat for that role anyway). Team's probably fine as it is.

08-01-2008, 07:56 PM
B-But I thought it was our job to give SL a hard time?

08-02-2008, 01:44 AM
Our job is to give SL a Spoink.

That is what our job is.

Seriously I want both of these LPs to be all-Spoink parties.

08-02-2008, 06:15 AM
B-But I thought it was our job to give SL a hard time?

In that case, swap Zubat for Hoppip. Or hell, Hoppip for anything else.

You could sub in Spinarak I guess but we've already got a pretty sucky team with Beedrill and Sentret. They've got style, no doubt, but no power.

08-02-2008, 02:12 PM
I probably won't get the write-up for the next section done until tomorrow, but I figured I'd let you guys know that I took the FOREVER to get your dang Charmander. Fuck slot machines. Oh, and I went ahead and got the Lavitar, Dratini and Ekans there too so I hopefully won't have to ever come back.

08-02-2008, 02:24 PM
Name the Ekans "Dilos"

08-02-2008, 10:23 PM
Mine is evolved into an Arbok named Rednammok. Should you wish to do the same I engender the name to you.

Dynastic Bird
08-03-2008, 01:26 AM
I probably won't get the write-up for the next section done until tomorrow, but I figured I'd let you guys know that I took the FOREVER to get your dang Charmander. Fuck slot machines. Oh, and I went ahead and got the Lavitar, Dratini and Ekans there too so I hopefully won't have to ever come back.

Thank you! Charmander is awesome!

08-03-2008, 06:50 PM
8/3/2008 - Say No to Milk


Since there were no particular arguments either way, I stuck with the same team as the previous update.


Our next stop is the ILEX FOREST to the west of town. Just a little ways end there is a man distressed that his boss' FARFETCH'D ran off on him. The Pokemon has the ability to use CUT, so it probably wouldn't hurt for us to help him out.


About ten feet to the right of that guy is a tree that can be removed using CUT. Looks like this quest is required to move on after all.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c74/TheSL/Pokemon%20Shiny%20Gold/PokemonShinyGold_05-5.png http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c74/TheSL/Pokemon%20Shiny%20Gold/PokemonShinyGold_06-5.png

The FARFETCH'D isn't that hard to find, but his pattern is a little random. You just have to work at it, coming at him from mostly the bottom or right side until he works back to where he started.


While running the FARFETCH'D around I ran into an Oddish. In honor of the Bionic Commando remake and the fact that he's a Raddish I named him "Radd."


Eventually when you get him back to where you began the FARFETCH'D runs straight back to his master near the entrance to the forest.

08-03-2008, 06:57 PM

In gratitude the man gives up HM01 CUT. This HM can be used to clear small trees like the one we saw a little bit to the right of this area.


Sentret seems like the best candidate for learning CUT, so I toss that CD on his face and get deforesting the area. In the top of the last shot you can see the forest shrine (to Celebi, I'm assuming), but it doesn't seem to have any purpose yet.


Before the end of the forest I was given another opportunity to fish for a bit. I was able to catch a Poliwag in the lake, but everything else I fished up was just more splashing Magikarp.


A little off the beaten path is a man handing out TM02 HEADBUTT. A new feature to this version of Gold is that you can use headbutt outside of battle to knock some Pokemon out of trees. I'm going to pass on teaching this to anyone right now, but I'll try and remember to take advantage of it later.

08-03-2008, 07:16 PM

Just the other side of ILEX FOREST Sentret hit level 15 and evolved into a Furret. Hooray!


Since Furret is the furthest he's going to evolve, I swapped him out for our Mareep. Its first battle was super easy thanks to its opponent being a Hopip. Hopip sucks so much, even using Splash like a Magikarp; this is easy experience for the sheep.


She was able to take on a Bulbasaur too without much trouble. Now I've got Bulbasaur in my Pokedex, so if I remember to check (I didn't this update) and find out where to catch them in the wild too.


Just up the road a bit further is the Pokemon Daycare Center. If you toss a male and a female Pokemon in here (assuming they're compatible) they'll produce an egg like the one we got from the Professor earlier. Since I'm not particularly a fan of Geodude I decided to drop him off here for some "training." The Fear took his place on the team, at least for the time being.

08-03-2008, 07:29 PM

Just a bit further ahead from the daycare center is GOLDENROD CITY and the destination we've been awaiting for some time now- the Game Corner.


There's our guy. 2000 coins is quite a bit to save up since most of the slot machines don't pay out particularly well.


We can't even buy coins to start right now, much less win any. Luckily a poor gambler near buy says he threw his case out in the underground when he was on a big losing streak. Lucky!


To the Underground! The underground is full of random trainers for some particular reason. None of them are really that strong, but it is another nice place to grind out a few levels before the next gym.


Speaking of levels, Mareep got enough to evolve into a Flaaffy.


Just past the first trainer is the item we came here looking for, the COIN CASE. We're now one step closer to our goal of adding Charmander to the team!

08-03-2008, 07:41 PM

The only other thing of particular interest in the underground is the POKEMON SALON. Getting your Pokemon "haircuts" here will increase their happiness level. While happiness really has no use for most of the monsters (outside of ones using the move RETURN), there are a few like Alucard's evolved form Golbat that can only further evolve if their happiness is at its max level. While just using the Pokemon will increase their happiness, it never hurts to have more for little to no effort.


Before heading back to the Game Center, I stopped by the name rater's house and fixed the monsters that didn't have nicknames yet. Flaaffy still needs one, by the way.


I was only able to afford to buy 1000 coins straight out, so we've got quite a bit of work ahead of us. The max payout on the slot machine is 300, so lets get working...



I went ahead and maxed out the coins to 9999 so that I hopefully won't ever have a reason to return here. I was a bit short to get the Abra, but I picked up all the other monsters available here. Charmander took the place of The Fear on my team and I even returned to the name rater to name him Chester.

08-03-2008, 07:45 PM

As usual, CARLOS was milling about the entrance of the next gym. This time, however, he declines to fight us because he just got his ass handed to him by the gym leader. Who would have thought that normal types would give someone so much trouble?


The normal gym is a little interesting because not only are all of the trainers inside female, but all of their Pokemon are as well. All of the ones leading up the the leader didn't give me any trouble. Snapper learned BITE after reaching level 21 fighting one of the trainers.


This is WHITNEY, the normal type gym leader. She seems a little more full of herself than the previous trainers, but she couldn't be that bad, right?

08-03-2008, 07:55 PM

Even at such a modest level Chester was able to take down Whitney's Clefairy. If not for a lucky burn, though, the sleep status from SING would have done Chester in.


The girls of my team, Flaaffy and Snapper, were almost able to take down Miltank if not for the damnable Milk Drink that restores almost all of Miltank's HP each time its used. Thanks to Miltank's ATTRACT the rest of our decent members were rendered practically worthless. Members affected by ATTRACT have about a 50% chance of being immobilized by love when they attempt to act.


So much for this battle. My monsters were rushed back to the Pokemon Center for a heal and I'm left to attempt this again... and the second try was the same. Third time's the charm? Nope. Maybe once more?


About time.

08-03-2008, 08:04 PM

After a little coercing I was able to get a badge out of that sore loser Whitney. Her badge lets you use STRENGTH out of battle, so pretty soon we should be able to move rocks like we saw back in the Union Cave a few days ago. She also gave us a TM with ATTRACT on it, so if we feel so inclined we could be as annoying as Whitney is.


Our team is looking a little worse for wear after the gym battle, but its getting to be a pretty strong lineup of pocket monsters. I have a few more monsters to choose for swapping purposes now thanks to the Game Corner, the two most interesting ones being Dratini and Lavitar in my opinion. The two of them are both pretty big powerhouses in the long run, but they take a long time to evolve. As always, any team swaps are in your hands Talking Time.

Next Time: Bug Catching

08-03-2008, 08:09 PM
As long as you hold onto Chester, you can do no wrong.

08-03-2008, 08:39 PM
This gym has a shape in it too, but it looks like it's harder to see since they only had one type of potted plant in this hack.


08-03-2008, 11:20 PM
Yeah, I suppose it is for the best that you don't use The Fear. Anyway, I'm pretty unfamiliar with Lavitar, so I'd like to see him replace Alucard or DIRTYDACN. All the others are too useful, except Ferret, but he's your CUTter. (not that it couldn't easily be taught to someone else)

The Dread Cthulhu
08-04-2008, 02:37 AM
Dratini or Larvitar would be great, but your current squad is also good. God knows who to replace, though.

08-04-2008, 06:15 AM
The freaky sheep looks like it's turning into a furry. :/ You should get a cow like WHITNEY so they can fulfill their twisted needs.

And name it "Baaa aa a"

08-04-2008, 06:52 AM
Flaaffy actually gets less wool on it when it evolves into Ampharos.

Larvitar and Dratini are both good 'mons (just keep them away from Fighting and Ice, respectively), but they take forever and a day to level up. Seriously, they both suffer the slowest EXP growth in the game. You'll be grinding them a lot to keep them the same levels as the rest of your guys. I'd take one, but not both -- and of the two, I'd rather have a Tyranitar than a Dragonite (although Dragonite makes a good HM slave).

That said, you'll probably start seeing Beedrill lag a bit in effectiveness soon. Swap him out for Larvitar. (Between Electric and Rock, you have Flying doubly covered. If you can find something else to cover Waters -- Hoppip and Bellsprout don't count -- you can swap out Flaaffy too.)

Who would have thought that normal types would give someone so much trouble?


08-04-2008, 07:05 AM

No offense, but when was the last time an in-game trainer had a competently built normal team? WHITNEY is the only one I can think of.

08-04-2008, 09:30 AM
I vote for swapping in Larvitar.

08-04-2008, 11:34 AM

If you still needed assurance that Carlos is exclusive to this hack, here it is.

08-04-2008, 11:37 AM
Oh, right. By the way, I vote for swapping in Dratini, since having a Dragon type might come in handy for some of the later Gyms.

08-04-2008, 12:15 PM
So is anyone adverse to me taking Dratini and Lavitar into the group and dropping Alucard and DIRTYDANCN? I've got a pretty good idea for a nickname for Lavitar, but I still need one for Dratini.

08-04-2008, 07:07 PM
The only reason not to is their slow-as-hell leveling, and that they don't fully evolve until level 55.

Name the Dratini Yoshi, since that's what it'll look like once it's a Dragonite.

08-04-2008, 07:09 PM
The only reason not to is their slow-as-hell leveling, and that they don't fully evolve until level 55.

Name the Dratini Yoshi, since that's what it'll look like once it's a Dragonite.

Wasn't there a hoax a long, long time ago that it could evolve into a Yoshi? I remember it being the hot topic way back when Red and Blue were still in full swing.

08-04-2008, 07:28 PM
Yeah, it was one of the EGM April Fools jokes.

Lets just say, though, you guys might not be so inclined to keep Dratini after my next update...

08-04-2008, 08:36 PM
8/4/2008 - So I Herd U Liek Starters

I'm still in GOLDENROD after the last gym, but I've got a couple things to do before leaving town.


Lavitar and Flaaffy got new names from the Name Rater. I sure as hell hope we drop Baa aa a soon because that's kinda annoying to type (but at least its not random symbols like over in Brick's Suikoden LP).


In the northeast corner of town there is a gardening building where a lady is handing out SQUIRTBOTTLEs. With this in hand we should be able to get past that moving tree that was just west of the first gym.


Just a bit south of where we found the SQUIRTBOTTLE there is a cycling store. Business is bad (I'm guessing its the recession and all), so he's just handing out bicycles. Score!


In the northwest corner of town there is a radio tower with a Rocket member milling about outside. There isn't much to do here right now, so I'll save it for later.

08-04-2008, 08:47 PM

Just outside of town Chester got enough experience from a random trainer to evolve. He now joins Snapper in the "Ugly Second Form" club.


Just north of GOLDENROD city is the National Park. Periodically they hold bug catching contests here; in the original it was certain days and times, but now it seems to be almost random.


Just inside the park is ARD, another CARLOS-alike. He's a pretty crappy bug trainer, though, so I beat the hell out of him and goes running, swearing revenge.


Since Chester his second form I switched my focus to our new Lavitar, Godzilla. While he doesn't get auto-sandstorm like his final form, he does learn the move before level 10; it does gradual damage to any non-rock or steel Pokemon each turn for ~5 turns.


Now we're pretty much back to VIOLET CITY, having gone in a big circle around the bottom portion of the map. Using the SQUIRTBOTTLE on the tree angers the Sudowoodo who attacks us; he is easily captured.

08-04-2008, 08:54 PM

The Trick House had another puzzle set up, but this lame cut maze was more time consuming than anything. We got a single Full Heal for our time spent here.


Continuing north from where we caught the Sudowoodo, we reach ECRUTEAK CITY. Inside the Pokemon Center is famous PC system designer Bill. He informs us that he's finished making adjustments to the trading system, so now it should be up and running (not that we'll be using it in this LP...).


A man in one of the buildings in town offers to give us a special prize if we're able to beat the Kimono ladies performing on stage. Sounds like this could be a worthwhile quest, so I decide to take them on.


Each one of the five Kimono girls has one Eevee form each; I failed to remember to take a shot of Jolteon. None of the forms are particularly strong (at least not with the CPU AI) and go down with little effort.

08-04-2008, 09:05 PM

For beating the Kimono girls the old man gives up HM03 SURF, which allows us to traverse across water on the back of a Pokemon. I tossed it on Ferret since he's turning into our little HM whore.


Next up is our fourth gym challenge versus MORTY and his ghost types. In this case, though, "ghost types" equals "lots of Gastly, Haunter and a Gengar."


One annoying thing about the apprentice trainers leading in is that their ghosts tend to CURSE themselves a lot. While curse automatically reduces the ghost's HP by 50% of their max, it also does about 25% damage per turn to my monster for each turn afterwards. The best way to get rid of this at this point is to swap out monsters between CURSES to dispel the effect.


The floor here has a specific path through it and will warp you back to the entrance if you don't follow it. The basic way to remember your path is to move over to being just to the side of the next trainer and then move straight up to them.


MORTY has a team of two Haunters and a Gengar. While the Haunters got OHKO'd by Snapper's BITE (dark moves are super effective versus ghosts), the Gengar gave me a bit more trouble with its HYPNOSIS/DREAM EATER combo. Eventually Snapper was able to wear it down, though, leading me to another gym victory!

08-04-2008, 09:17 PM

MORTY gives up the FOG BADGE and the TM for SHADOW BALL. With this badge we can now use SURF outside of battle which means its time for a detour to our quest!


But before we can do that, CARLOS shows up to pester us once again. While it was a little harder to win with my team after being beat up in the gym, at least he still had the same old team from the previous time we battled (only a little higher level).


The first stop is Scott's House back in NEW BARK TOWN. Using cut to get behind it finds us the only Pikachu in the entire game. He starts at level 10 and is more or less worthless for anything other than Thunder Waving at this point.


Next up is surfing on the three or four squares of water still in NEW BARK TOWN. While the first encounter, a Tentacool, is nothing exciting the second one is a little more interesting!

08-04-2008, 09:25 PM

At level 1 the Squirttle is almost too easy to catch. I named him Samuel so that we could have Samuel Squirttle and Chester Charmeleon. If I ever find Bulbasaur I figure I'll name it Beatrice or Bejamin depending on the gender.


Next up is a return visit to the Union Cave. I was able to find a few more Pokemon the the main level, but the real interesting things are further down the tunnels...


On the second level of the cave is an exit to the Ruins of Alph. While I still have no interest in finding the secrets of the Unown, I was able to catch a wild Smeargle. Unfortunately, he SKETCH'd Chester's SCRATCH before I caught him, permanently learning the move in the process.


In the third basement of the Union Cave is a one time catch monster- a Lapras! To be quite honest, this is probably one of maybe two or three ice-type monsters I anticipate seeing on this playthrough.

08-04-2008, 09:32 PM

Returning to the second floor I was able to find a couple more third gen Pokemon, including the coveted Mudkip (I herd u liek it).


Done here, I made my way back to the National Park. Just outside of it I found this Nidoran(F).


Like I said before, the bug catching contest is kind of random. I wasn't here to take advantage of this, though, so I just caught the first monster I came upon (which happened to be a Paras).


In the northeast corner of the National Park is a hidden passage to another new addition to this hack- a safe haven for the non-bug types. What secrets could lie within?


08-04-2008, 09:44 PM

The woman has a two monster team of a Delcatty and Chansey. While the Delcatty is nothing special, Chancey spams the move SOFTBOILED (much to the same effect as Miltank in the third gym) and MINIMIZE (which raises evasion). The only reason I was able to defeat the Chansey was sheer endurance.


For winning the match she gives up a TREECKO, our first decent grass type and a monster I've never seriously trained before.


There is one last errand to do in GOLDENROD city- to get a free EEVEE. Bill says that the monster got lost somewhere in his PC system and rather than search for the original owner he just gives it to us. Bill's house is located near the Game Corner.


We've not got a pretty decent stable of more powerful monster to choose from on our team. I have yet to put any effort into Dratini, but Gozilla is well on his way to his first evolution. Any of the monsters in my boxes are fair game, its your choice Talking Time.

Next Time: The Road to the Fifth Gym

08-04-2008, 11:09 PM

Well, alright, take out Dratini and Ferret and put in Pikachu, Mudkip, and Evee. Yeah, they're popular and maybe overrated, but for good reason, if you ask me.

08-04-2008, 11:12 PM
The National Park was my favorite place in G/S/C. I loved that music more than is probably healthy.

08-04-2008, 11:29 PM
Put the Treecko in your party so you'll have a starter from the first three generations without duplicating any types.

Octopus Prime
08-05-2008, 03:11 AM
As I recall, Treecko is the only starter from any of the games that doesn't look uglier when it first evolves.

So get that.

08-05-2008, 05:51 AM
Take Mudkip!

Not because of the stupid meme, but because Water/Ground is an excellent type pairing. My Sapphire starter ended up with Return, Surf, Earthquake and Ice Beam, which meant doom for, well, everything. Being double weak to Grass sucks, but it's worth the risk.

08-05-2008, 06:45 AM
Sudowoodo is a crappy mon but I love the name I gave to mine. It was "Detreetful".

I like that throwing Larvitar into battle almost evokes a rock song, but there's only one "Go!" before the "Godzilla!" part.

Since you picked the Water starter, I doubt you need Squirtle or Lapras (or Tentacruel or Quagsire). You might take Mudkip along for his ground-type coverage, but Larvitar can handle that well enough. Onix's types are covered by Larvitar. Smeargle is good for breeding and little else.

However! Put me in the pro-Treecko camp. He covers enemy Water types handily, making Flaaffy (and Pikachu, that overrated bastard) entirely obsolete. Drop the sheep and take the Treecko -- you might even save some money on auto insurance.

08-05-2008, 06:52 AM
I like that throwing Larvitar into battle almost evokes a rock song, but there's only one "Go!" before the "Godzilla!" part.

I was so close to naming him Go!Godzilla because of that.

Its looking like Treecko is the overwhelming favorite for the 6th slot so far. I plan on dragging Ferret around with me for HMs, but I will train someone else to replace him before the end of the game. Dratini can be swapped out for another one of the new monsters unless you guys had your heart set on Puff the Magic Dragon.

The Dread Cthulhu
08-05-2008, 07:53 AM
Treecko would work. Never had the patience to use it myself, because one of the options is a fire chicken.

08-05-2008, 10:59 AM
I guess another thing I should ask- which Eevee form should I pursue?

08-05-2008, 11:00 AM
I guess another thing I should ask- which Eevee form should I pursue?

Espeon. Ya gotta love the psychic type.

(Also, your avatar is a thing of beauty and I approve fully of its existence.)

08-05-2008, 11:04 AM
I like Flareon. It's cute. ^_^

08-05-2008, 11:05 AM
I guess another thing I should ask- which Eevee form should I pursue?


08-05-2008, 11:06 AM
I demand Espeon.

08-05-2008, 11:12 AM
Oh! Also, if you really could, could you hold onto Dratini a little longer? The dragon type should come in handy with most anything else, and the second form is just so darn cute.

08-05-2008, 11:19 AM
Well, if I end up going for Espeon there's no point in removing Dratini until I get a Sun Stone anyways (since the hack changed the day/night evolutions to Sun/Moon Stones).

The Dread Cthulhu
08-05-2008, 11:20 AM
Umbreon. Always an Umbreon.

08-05-2008, 11:25 AM
Well, if I end up going for Espeon there's no point in removing Dratini until I get a Sun Stone anyways (since the hack changed the day/night evolutions to Sun/Moon Stones).

Sounds reasonable to me (and works out perfectly, since I voted Espeon :P).

Mr. Sensible
08-05-2008, 11:46 AM
Just thought I'd drop in to say that this LP is going places. Carry on!

Also, grinding for Lucky Eggs in Diamond sucks.

08-05-2008, 12:14 PM
Just thought I'd drop in to say that this LP is going places.


08-05-2008, 03:46 PM
Umbreon is a hoss and great at taking hits, with Vaporeon almost as good as Umbreon. But in the 1P game you need sweepers and more sweepers, and that means Espeon. Or maybe Jolteon.

08-05-2008, 04:03 PM
eevee is my favorite pokemon ever.

Octopus Prime
08-05-2008, 04:08 PM
I always go for Vaporean. But this is because Surf is one of my favorite attacks, and it can learn Ice Beam too.

08-05-2008, 04:33 PM
I think you should go for Espeon, since the psychic types rock.

08-05-2008, 08:25 PM
I've got pictures for today's update, but I'm pretty exhausted from working out tonight. I promise to put one up in the morning.

08-06-2008, 08:09 AM
8/6/2008 - Trouble at the Lighthouse


I tossed Treecko in as my sixth member, but I held off on Eevee for now since we don't have any evolutionary stones to speak of.


Back in ECRUTEAK CITY (where we defeated Morty for our fourth gym badge) I have one more thing to investigate- the BURNED TOWER.


Before you can even get inside, though, you're stopped by another pair of CARLOS-alikes, DANTE and RINA. The couple is obsessed with showing people the "power of love!" and how they "can never lose with love on their side!" Luckily for us, though, they only had a Clefairy and a Jigglypuff so they collapsed like a house of cards, even with a level 5 Dratini on my side. Just like the others, they walk off swearing their revenge at some nonspecific point in the future.


R^2 returns for another rematch. Before the battle he says something about this tower housing legendary Pokemon, and that he's sure I came for them, but he'll get them first. His monsters are identical to the last match against him with the exception of a Magnemite added to the lineup.


Since both R^2's starter, Bayleef, and Magnemite are weak to fire moves, Chester does most of the work. After his sound beating R^2 continues spouting about how we could never catch the legendary monsters here anyways and then runs off. While I doubt I would have any trouble catching (or in this case, releasing) the ones here, I'm going to save this dungeon for later.

08-06-2008, 08:28 AM

To the west! Its another straight shot to the next city and gym from here, with only a half dozen or so trainers along the way.


That was more than enough experience for Snapper to hit level 30, though, evolving into her final form Feraligatr. I would have to say its a close call on whether Swampert (http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/260.shtml) or Feraligatr is the ugliest third form of any starter.


There were a few more trainers out in the grass on our way, including one with a Mr. Mime. I happened upon a wild Magnemite and was able to catch it easily thanks to Dratini learning THUNDER WAVE at level 8. I was able to reach OLIVINE CITY without any more random encounters, surprisingly.


My thoughts exactly.


R^2 is helpful for once, informing us that the gym leader is out at the moment. JASMINE is supposedly at the town LIGHTHOUSE nursing a sick Pokemon. Heading inside the gym, it turns out he was correct- the only person inside at all is that "inspirational speech" guy who stands near the entrance of every gym (that I always ignore...).

08-06-2008, 08:47 AM

The OLIVINE LIGHTHOUSE (also called the GLITTER LIGHTHOUSE for some reason) is in the far southeastern corner of town. While the first floor is devoid of trainers, each subsequent one has at least two or three for each floor. At this point I'm going to start focusing on getting Treecko some levels so that he can catch up with my other two powerhouse starter Pokemon.


It turns out that in the WORLD OF POKEMON (tm) instead of using a spotlight in a lighthouse they just stick an AMPHAROS at the top of the place and tell it to light the ocean up. JASMINE is here, attempting to nurse the Pokemon back to health, but to no avail. She tells us that there is a great PHARMACY across the ocean in CIANWOOD CITY, but there's no way that she could leave this Ampharos unattended. Instead, she asks us to go in her place to bring some medicine back.


Its a wonder the poor thing is even in that good of shape after all the work they made it do here. Ampharos is the final evolutionary form of Mareep the electric sheep, by the way.


That's it for today's updates (and good thing with all these 500 errors today). Treecko is at level 15, so he should be evolving in my next play session. Speaking of which, I'm taking a short vacation to go to Ozzfest this weekend, so there won't be any updates between Friday and probably Tuesday or Wednesday.

Next Time: Surfin' for Cianwood

08-06-2008, 01:07 PM
Sorry if the quality was a little down on today's posts, it was a rough morning.

The Dread Cthulhu
08-06-2008, 01:28 PM
Sorry if the quality was a little down on today's posts, it was a rough morning.

Don't worry. It isn't. This is going really well, keep up the good work.

08-06-2008, 01:31 PM
With all the site wonkiness I would have missed the update entire had you not posted that. @_@ And: Still good.

08-06-2008, 01:58 PM
Well, it was inevitable, but it finally happened, thanks to this LP: I've been sucked back in. I started a new game on my old Gold cartridge(would've done Silver, but the battery's died in that one), and I can't. stop. playing. Went with Cyndaquil and I eventually picked up a Spinarak and Ghastly, and I couldn't resist naming them The Fear and The Sorrow, respectively. Wish I had thought of The Fury when I got my starter, but I guess that'll have to wait until the Name Rater.

Man, now it's only a matter of time until I pick up Diamond or Pearl.

08-06-2008, 02:04 PM
Do you have a Beedrill named The Pain?

08-06-2008, 06:39 PM
You'd think so, but apparently you can't catch Weedle in Gold, so unfortunately, no. And it would've been so perfect, too; six slots on a Pokemon team, six members of the Cobras. Still don't know who to name after The Joy and The End, though...

08-06-2008, 06:47 PM
That was actually my original plan to make a Cobras team, but then DIRTYDANCN was too hard to resist. Maybe I'll make one up on my Pearl group...

08-06-2008, 07:08 PM
You'd think so, but apparently you can't catch Weedle in Gold, so unfortunately, no. And it would've been so perfect, too; six slots on a Pokemon team, six members of the Cobras. Still don't know who to name after The Joy and The End, though...

In D/P, I have an Eevee team named after the Cobras:

Flareon = The Fury
Espeon = The Sorrow (psychic powah!)
Umbreon = The Fear (he could paralyze and poison)
Leafeon = The End (he was photosynthetic, and put others to sleep)
and then the last two didn't fit quite as well but it was still awesome:
Vaporeon = The Joy
Glaceon = The Pain

I also started raising a FOXHOUND team but never finished.
Liquid Snake = Seviper
Decoy Octopus = Octillery
Revolver Ocelot = Luxray
Sniper Wolf = Arcanine
Vulcan Raven = Honchkrow
Psycho Mantis = Scyther

Edit: Also, to help you out, I would suggest something like Blissey for The Joy. Leafeon is still a good choice for The End for the reasons I mentioned: he puts people to sleep, heals himself with photosynthesis, and so on.

08-06-2008, 07:26 PM
Well, it was inevitable, but it finally happened, thanks to this LP: I've been sucked back in. I started a new game on my old Gold cartridge(would've done Silver, but the battery's died in that one), and I can't. stop. playing. Went with Cyndaquil and I eventually picked up a Spinarak and Ghastly, and I couldn't resist naming them The Fear and The Sorrow, respectively. Wish I had thought of The Fury when I got my starter, but I guess that'll have to wait until the Name Rater.

Man, now it's only a matter of time until I pick up Diamond or Pearl.

I started up a new game of Diamond myself. I never quite finished it on my first try, so I figure now's a good time to give it another shot. The world will know the wrath of my Empoleon! And also of my Bronzong, though I guess in his case it's less "wrath" and more "floating lazily and being invincible."

08-06-2008, 09:25 PM
In D/P, I have an Eevee team named after the Cobras:

Flareon = The Fury
Espeon = The Sorrow (psychic powah!)
Umbreon = The Fear (he could paralyze and poison)
Leafeon = The End (he was photosynthetic, and put others to sleep)
and then the last two didn't fit quite as well but it was still awesome:
Vaporeon = The Joy
Glaceon = The Pain

I also started raising a FOXHOUND team but never finished.
Liquid Snake = Seviper
Decoy Octopus = Octillery
Revolver Ocelot = Luxray
Sniper Wolf = Arcanine
Vulcan Raven = Honchkrow
Psycho Mantis = Scyther

Edit: Also, to help you out, I would suggest something like Blissey for The Joy. Leafeon is still a good choice for The End for the reasons I mentioned: he puts people to sleep, heals himself with photosynthesis, and so on.

Man, that's a lot of unfamiliar names. I'm so behind the times! My will to resist buying D/P is getting weaker by the minute.

08-07-2008, 06:35 AM
8/7/2008 - The Road to Success is Paved With Failure


Here's our team of the day. There is no change from the previous time because I didn't catch anything particularly interesting the last session. Treecko is getting pretty close to evolving, though.


So close that it took only a single battle to push him to the limit. He's now a GROVYLE, a name I never really understood. I mean, unless he's supposed to be groveling at my feet or something. Regardless, this is one of the few starter Pokemon that didn't get uglier in its second form.


The pathway to CIANWOOD is entirely ocean, with swimming trainers challenging you to battles along the way. For whatever reason, though, I avoided most all of the random trainer battles; I think it has a lot to do with the fact that they've been using the same song for surf forever. Its interesting to note that there are a number of whirlpools blocking access to extra areas along the route; we'll have to return here later once we have a Pokemon with the move. We land in CIANWOOD CITY and immediately begin looking for the PHARMACY for the required medicine.


Instead I found house with a guy raising Shuckles. He said he used to have two, but a guy who sounds suspiciously like R^2 ran in and stole one of them. After a quick trip to the Pokemon Center to deposit one of our monsters for a space on the team, he gives us his other Shuckle for safe keeping.

08-07-2008, 06:47 AM

The next house we enter just happens to be the one we're looking for- the CIANWOOD PHARMACY. Without so much as asking for money, the pharmacist gives up the medicine. Maybe I've just got a trusting face or something? Its weird that everyone in this town is eager to give away their possessions to a random ten year old that barged into their house.


Here's the fifth gym, home of CHUCK and his fighting types. Before you can go into the gym, though, you're challenged by yet another CARLOS-alike. This time the trainer is supposed to be CHUCK's niece. Even though her uncle is a fighting-type gym leader, she has a lone 3rd generation Pokemon, a Ralts. After you beat her she runs off into the gym, crying to her uncle.


All of this gym's apprentice trainers look mysteriously like Ryu. None of the ones near the entrance are very difficult to defeat, but I'm stopped by a bigger roadblock a bit further in. It turns out that I was supposed to pick up the TM for STRENGTH in OLIVINE CITY before coming out here to this island and can't continue this gym without it. I board my trusty Ferret and begin my swim back there...

08-07-2008, 07:01 AM

In the middle part of the south section of OLIVINE there is a place that kind of looks like a diner. Inside there is a sailor just handing out HM04 STRENGTH to anyone whose Pokemon look too weak to push boulders around. Again, the charity of random people to Pokemon trainers is astounding.


Since we've already got the required medicine, I go ahead and return to the LIGHTHOUSE. Ampharos is much healthier after taking it, and JASMINE promises to return to the gym since her work here is done.


Once again, CARLOS shows up at the 6th gym. Even though we haven't beaten CHUCK, he's amazed at how we have "5 BADGES" even though we still only have four. Oh ROM hackers, sloppy as ever!

Once he found out about CIANWOOD's gym, though, he rushes off to challenge CHUCK to a battle instead of fighting us. Even though I'm probably pretty underleveled to defeat JASMINE and her STEEL-types I'm going to go ahead and challenge it for a reason that you'll soon see!

08-07-2008, 07:09 AM

STEEL-type monsters are weak to fire moves, so Chester is the star monster in this gym. I'm not sure what this guy had originally, but now he has the 3rd generation STEEL/ROCK Aron.


JASMINE's team consists of two MAGNEMITEs and a STEELIX. At this level a single THUNDERBOLT from her MAGNEMITE will OHKO anyone on my team, though, so I bite the dust when facing her second monster. It seems I'm still much too low a level to take on her gym at this time.


Luckily, though, Pokemon works on a similar concept to Dragon Quest games in that when you lose a battle you're whisked away to the previous "castle" (in this case, Pokemon Center) that you visited. I specifically avoided entering the OLIVINE Pokemon Center for just this reason. Now that we're back in CIANWOOD its time to go challenge CHUCK now that we can get through the rocks blocking our way!


08-07-2008, 07:19 AM

CHUCK does a little showing off before the battle, tossing a large stone with his own power. I guess he used HM04 as well?


Unfortunately, though, the odd WATER/FIGHTING typing of POLIWRATH does my team in. Back to the training grind, I guess.


Heading back to the ocean, I take on the half-dozen or so random trainers that I surfed right past on my first trip to CIANWOOD city. Nothing is particularly difficult, but my team does gain a few levels in the process. Looking at these two random trainers that I took shots of, I wonder if those were the original names or if the hacker is a fan of Firefly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly_(TV_series)#Main_characters)...?


I also went a bit north of OLIVINE and took care of the two or three trainers that I avoided heading into town there. I was able to record this guy's phone number on my card, so now I have someone to call if I want a rematch sometime.


Also north of town is the MOOMOO FARM, full of a field of MILTANKs.

08-07-2008, 07:27 AM

Despite the advertising outside and the fact that they have many more in the fields, the owner of the farm claims his cows aren't giving any milk. Heading to the barn next door, you're able to feed ORAN BERRIES to the MILTANK to make her better. I fed her all the ones I had and got her up to "quite healthy!" status, but it wasn't enough for her to star producing milk. Rather than search for more berries, I'm just going to abandon this quest for now.


JASMINE was still too tough for my group, but I again got a free trip back to CIANWOOD for my trouble. With the few extra levels I got from fighting the remainder of the random trainers CHUCK went down like a chump.


I got a STORMBADGE for beating his monsters. This not only allows me to control monsters up to lv70, but it also lets me use the move FLY outside of battle. The TM move I got, DYNAMICPUNCH, has low accuracy, but if you connect it confuses the opponent's Pokemon.


CHUCK's niece (now revealed to be AMELIA) returns to apologize to us after our victory. Like all of the other CARLOS-alikes she still runs off claiming non-specific revenge at a later date.

08-07-2008, 07:35 AM

Just outside of the gym, CHUCK's wife gives up HM02 FLY. While it would be really useful to be able to move between towns instantly, we don't have anyone that can learn it in our party right now...


While both Chester and Dratini will eventually be able to learn the HM, they can't learn it until they sprout wings. Thankfully, I do have a spare Pidgey handy in the PC, so I grab him for convenience's sake.


Before tackling JASMINE for the third (and hopefully, final) time, I attach a few items to my Pokemon. I give Chester the QUICK CLAW in the hopes that he'll get a few more EMBERs off before the MAGNEMITEs can THUNDERBOLT him to death. I give that MIRACLE SEED we got forever ago to GROVYLE to boost his grass moves slightly.


Third try's the charm, and I was able to take down JASMINE this time through. Her "main" Pokemon, STEELIX, is a pushover with and kind of water moves in your arsenal, so I think I could have been able to take her down before CHUCK if I could have just gotten through her ELECTRIC/STEEL defenses at the start.

08-07-2008, 07:45 AM

JASMINE's MINERALBADGE raises a Pokemon's defense slightly. She also gives up TM23 IRON TAIL, a STEEL-type move that may lower an opponent's defense one stage.


We now have six badges and are well on our way to a showdown with the ELITE FOUR.


Here's a roster update, though not much has changed in the last few updates Pokemon-wise. Its 8 levels until Chester hits his final form and 13 for GROVYLE. As always, any team substitutions are in your hands Talking Time.

Next Week: The Mysterious Red Gyarados

08-07-2008, 07:48 AM
Man all this talk of getting (back) into Pokemon is kinda scary. Despite following enough forum threads and browsing enough wikis that I can name a truly disurbing number of 'mons on sight, I've yet to actually *play* any of the games. (Not actually owning any Nintendo handheld systems before this gen other than an old beat-up GB long after its heyday helped.)

I'm kind of tempted. But maybe at this point I should wait for Platinum. I wonder if that would be a weird point to jump into the series, though.

(Er, not to derail the LP, which is cool. Keep up the good work, SL!)

08-07-2008, 07:48 AM
There's not much to change, really - with three starters, the two "dragons" and Eevee/Espeon on the way, you've already got a pretty solid team to deal with the rest of the game (though Pryce might be a bit of a dick to take down due to the prevalent water/ice types). I say keep it as is and sub Ferret out when you don't need any HMs used.

Anyway, loving the LP so far. Keep it up!

08-07-2008, 09:45 AM
Grove + Reptile = Grovyle, I figure.

Jasmine didn't have any junior trainers in the original GSC...

08-07-2008, 12:31 PM
Jasmine didn't have any junior trainers in the original GSC...

Yeah, but at least he didn't stop me in my tracks, introduce himself, and then swear non-specific revenge like all these other trainer additions to this hack.

08-07-2008, 01:00 PM
I love those HM-receiving images. It looks like they're dressing up to play doctor.

Mr. Sensible
08-08-2008, 12:34 PM
To me, they look like they're all trying to catch a silver frisbee in their mouths and failing miserably every time.

I'm kind of tempted. But maybe at this point I should wait for Platinum. I wonder if that would be a weird point to jump into the series, though.

It seriously doesn't matter which game you decide to jump into because they're not following some consistent narrative or anything. Except for the Pokemon trading aspect, they're all essentially stand-alone games.

However, if you just can't wait for Platinum to be released in North America next spring, I would suggest trying one of the GBA games first as opposed to picking up Diamond or Pearl. You can probably get a cheap used copy (well, relatively cheap; Pokemon games tend to remain pricey long after release) and you'll have the added benefit of extra Pokemon ready for migration by the time Platinum gets released.

The only downside to this would be you noticing how unforgivably slow the battles are in the DS games when compared with their blazingly-fast GBA counterparts.

08-08-2008, 02:24 PM
To me, they look like they're all trying to catch a silver frisbee in their mouths and failing miserably every time.

It seriously doesn't matter which game you decide to jump into because they're not following some consistent narrative or anything. Except for the Pokemon trading aspect, they're all essentially stand-alone games.

However, if you just can't wait for Platinum to be released in North America next spring, I would suggest trying one of the GBA games first as opposed to picking up Diamond or Pearl. You can probably get a cheap used copy (well, relatively cheap; Pokemon games tend to remain pricey long after release) and you'll have the added benefit of extra Pokemon ready for migration by the time Platinum gets released.

The only downside to this would be you noticing how unforgivably slow the battles are in the DS games when compared with their blazingly-fast GBA counterparts.

I got Fire Red for $20, it's totally worth it.

The DS games have slower battles though? What's that all about?

Mr. Sensible
08-08-2008, 02:35 PM
It's just the pace of battling in general. Pokemon take forever to get thrown into play during trainer battles, most animations are slower, the HP gauge drains at a slug's pace, et cetera. The wasted time really adds up and it gets mildly frustrating after a while. Even after you disable all the extraneous flashy stuff, it's still slow.

mr_bungle and several others (myself included) were bitching about this the other day in the "gripe" thread.

08-08-2008, 02:54 PM
a tree grows into a grove. seems pretty self explanatory.

Mr. Sensible
08-08-2008, 03:04 PM
I always thought the root word for GROVYLE was "grow" but your explanation makes a lot more sense.

...Crap, now I want one of those things. I wish Pokemon games had more than one save slot.

08-08-2008, 08:48 PM
I'm kind of tempted. But maybe at this point I should wait for Platinum. I wonder if that would be a weird point to jump into the series, though.

If you're going to try and get into the Pokemon games, my suggestion would be to start with Fire Red or Leaf Green, which are GBA remakes of the first generation of games (Blue and Red, or Green and Red in Japan). I love the general design and flow of events in the first gen games, and the pokemon lineup is classic too (I'm not speaking from nostalgia here, as I didn't play any Pokemon games until a few years ago). The remakes improve upon the originals by adding all the innovations made to the series in the second and third generations, and by including a bunch of extra content.

You can't go wrong with the actual third-gen games either (Ruby and Sapphire), though I do remember there being quite a bit of water travel, which involves slow movement and a lot of random battles. As for Diamond/Pearl/Platinum, they're great, and the ability to trade with people worldwide is a big deal, but the pace of the fights will wear on your sanity. I just booted up my Sapphire and Leaf Green games to do a direct comparison of the difference in battle speed to Diamond, and it was really depressing. Check out the numbers:

Leaf Green

Average Length of Complete Battle (One Hit KO): 16 seconds
Average Time From Start of Battle to First Command: 7 seconds


Average Length of Complete Battle (One Hit KO): 30 seconds
Average Time From Start of Battle to First Command: 12 seconds

I joked in the gripes thread that I'd be much happier with Diamond if the battles moved twice as fast, but it turns out that I was pretty much right. 30 seconds might not sound like a long time, but imagine that multiplied by the number of battles you usually fight in an RPG. The battle startup time is the worst part of it. You can run from any random battle, but you still have to sit through the startup, which takes forever in video game time.

On the other hand, I do really like Diamond a lot. I just wanted to give you fair warning. You may get a better first impression of the series if you start with one of the GBA games.

Apologies for the derail, SL!

08-10-2008, 06:25 PM
Its alright guys, I just got back tonight from Ozzfest, so it'll still be a day or two of recovering from that drive before I do another update. Expect something by Wednesday.

08-11-2008, 09:18 AM
Thanks for the off-topic advice, guys. Well, hmm. Maybe I will have to add Fire or Leaf to my (really pretty ridiculous) list of old GBA games to pick up for my DS. It's kind of a toss-up whether I'll clear enough queue to get to them before Platinum comes out, but we'll see.

Meanwhile, since Gold/Silver isn't one I'll be playing, I can keep reading this fun LP, so everyone wins.

08-13-2008, 06:53 AM
8/13/2008 - Rampaging Red Gyarados
Return of the "Rivals"


After the last update, I had completed the 6th gym and had nowhere else to explore in the north-western section of the world map. Using Pidgey, I flew back to ECRUTEAK and exited to the east side. Almost immediately outside of town we have the option of either surfing to the right or entering MOUNT MORTAR to explore; I choose the surfing path.


There is a small patch of land to the east that has another entrance to MOUNT MORTAR. Exploring within, there is a waterfall impeding any further progress. WATERFALL is another HM move, so hopefully we'll be receiving that soon. After fighting a few trainers further to the east outside I flew back to ECRUTEAK and entered the mountain's westernmost opening.


MOUNT MORTAR consists of two sections, a lit entrance area and a back area covered in darkness. I'm too lazy to go back and find whoever I had taught FLASH to earlier so I just fumble around in the dark a bit to find my way. The dark part is pretty simple, with two exits to the upper part of the entrance area on the left and right ends of the area. The left path leads to an ETHER and the right (which requires STRENGTH to reach) leads to a GUARD SPEC.

Pokemon caught in MOUNT MORTAR:


08-13-2008, 07:10 AM

Not that far from the cave exit is the location of our next gym challenge, MAHOGANY TOWN. While nothing about the town design would note it, its interesting to see that this is the "Home of the Ninja." Maybe its the name of their baseball team?

Like usual, the gym is blocked from access by an NPC. This one tells me to go "sightseeing", which is NPC-speak for "do another quest first, dummy." He at least gives us a tip in the right direction- LAKE OF RAGE. What an odd name for a vacation destination.


There is a guy blocking the eastern exit of town, soliciting people to buy RAGECANDYBARs. Since they're not outrageous like that SLOWPOKETAIL earlier, I go ahead and buy one; it turns out its a hold item that restores 20 HP when the holding Pokemon's health is low.


Speak of the devil, it looks like Team Rocket is set up here in this town as well. While we're not exactly sure how they're doing it at this point, it seems that they're forcing the MAGIKARP at the lake to evolve somehow. Oh, and they're also selling SLOWPOKETAIL for 0.0098% of their former cost, so I bought one for the heck of it. Its kinda worthless without the rest of the monster attached to it, though. :(


"Rival" ARD is just north of town, looking for some kind of ultra rare bug Pokemon. He gets all flustered when he sees us and challenges us to another battle.

08-13-2008, 07:19 AM

His pair of bug-types go down in a hit or two to Chester's EMBER. After reminding me once again of the "ULTRA SUPER RARE BUG TYPE AROUND HERE!!" he runs off. I could really give a crap less about specifically searching for a Pokemon right now, though, so I just continue along the path to the lake.


Just a bit up the road to the north is the option of running through the grass or taking one of the transition doorways. Unlike the other ones, though, this one has a toll set up by Team Rocket! Rather than growing a pair and challenging them to a battle to get through (I'm not given the option), I pay up the 1000 cash to continue on.


Once we arrived at LAKE OF RAGE we're confronted by another one of our "rivals", DANTE & RINA. They're much too concerned with their sightseeing date to bother catching or battling Pokemon, though, so they simply run off after talking to us for a bit.


I don't know, let me go out there and check.


Yup, looks pretty red alright.

08-13-2008, 07:38 AM

I wasn't able to get the sparkles in this shot, but the reason why Gyrados is red is that its a "shiny" Pokemon. Every Pokemon in the game has an infinitesimally small chance of being a shiny monster (something like 1 in 8,192). While in the original Gold/Silver shiny monsters had better Individual Values (IVs, or the base stats of the Pokemon), since this hack is based on the GBA games it shouldn't be any different than any other Gyarados beyond its kick-ass red coloring.


Success! Its interesting to note that the Pokedex coloring of the monster is still the default one regardless of whether you caught a shiny Pokemon. After catching the Gyarados we're given a RED SCALE item.


ELITE FOUR member LANCE from Pokemon R/B/Y is here at the lake investigating as well. This is the point where you realize that this all takes place in one big world instead of being stand-alone stories like most other Nintendo games. LANCE requests our assistance in finding out what is making these Pokemon evolve, pointing out that there are some weird radio signals coming from back in MAHOGANY TOWN. He goes on ahead and tells us to meet him there.


Outside of the Rocket base is our third and final "rival" AMELIA from CIANWOOD CITY. While she isn't interested in battling or even tagging along in the Rocket base, she does give us a half dozen items for free, including an ETHER and a REVIVE. After pretty much dumping the contents of her backpack off on us, she just runs off.

08-13-2008, 07:50 AM

Inside, LANCE is already kicking ass and taking names with his DRAGONITE. Somehow he's already found out that this is the source of the radio waves even though he's yet to go beyond the entrance of the building.


He uncovers a set of stairs in the back of the store, leading to the underground base of Team Rocket. What could be inside?


Here's my team as of the end of this update. There have been very few trainers between here and the last gym, but hopefully this base will make up for that. Chester is the best option for the next gym since its ICE-type, so I'm going to focus on getting him a few more levels and potentially evolving him. I've still yet to find a SUN STONE to evolve our EEVEE, but any substitutions are still in your hands Talking Time.

Next time: Rocket Base Assault

08-13-2008, 10:51 AM
Does anyone have a suggestion for what I should name GROVYLE? Or was there one a page or two back that I missed?

08-13-2008, 10:54 AM
Name him Gary.

08-13-2008, 02:42 PM
Rock is also effective against Ice, so Larvitar might could run backup against the Icegym. That still doesn't help against any of the ubiquitous Ice/Waters in the game though. For that you need a Fighting guy.

08-13-2008, 04:28 PM
he needs to be named Grover.

08-13-2008, 04:40 PM
he needs to be named Grover.

Forget my suggestion, we're going with this.

08-13-2008, 08:07 PM
Why not both? GaryGrover?

08-14-2008, 06:31 AM
8/14/2008 - Blasting off at the Speed of Light


Here's today's lineup, including a few name changes. Chester is still taking the lead since he's within six levels of evolving a final time. We return to the Rocket base to follow LANCE below...


Every time you pass by one of these machines on the north wall it sets off an alarm that summons a couple Team Rocket members to battle you. While they have the same old Zubat/Koffing/Ratata teams of every other Rocket, its still kind of annoying to be stopped by two battles every time you pass through here. One of the defeated members was nice enough to tell us there is a way to turn it off, though.


The switch is hidden on a PC in a west-central area of the map. Simply checking the terminal turns off the alarms.


I guess that explains the whole "ninja town" thing on the welcome sign here in the city. Team Rocket must have run all of the ninja out of town for this place.

Pokemon Caught on B1 of the Rocket Base:


08-14-2008, 06:44 AM

Reaching the second floor we meet up with LANCE. He gives us a free Pokemon heal and then runs off again.


This is the first locked door you'll see in the Rocket base, but the last one we'll be opening. Each door requires one or two passwords to open and you have to defeat the random Rocket trainers throughout the base to find them. In other words, since I defeat every trainer in each area for experience anyways I'll stumble upon these passwords for free.


LANCE beats the same information I just gave you out of a random Rocket grunt. Its amusing because on the previous floor there was a grunt that told me pretty much the same thing before he even battled me.


I thought this was a neat throwback to the original Pokemon games. Team Rocket had invaded the Silph Co. in R/B/Y to try and steal their Silph Scope (to catch ghosts, which for some reason isn't necessary in later games...) and the experimental Master Ball (100% capture rate). Why someone would join the losing team in a life of crime after a 10 year old trainer was able to severely cripple their whole organization is beyond me.


One of the grunts had a different Pokemon than most here- a Ditto. While I could have easily knocked it out in my first turn, I kept it alive long enough to snap this picture of him transformed into Chester. While transformed Ditto has all of the moves, abilities, weaknesses and resistances of the copied Pokemon.


I found the two Rocket members with the (very similar) passwords, so I'm off to the leader's inner sanctum!

08-14-2008, 06:49 AM

While they don't do anything for you, there area a few flavor text entries around the base. I didn't get a picture of it, but if you check those security alarm machines it says something about blinking lights.


It turns out that R^2 does have a bit of a conscience after all, trying to take down Team Rocket the same as us to atone for stealing that Chikorita. It really doesn't matter in the end, though, because LANCE handed him his ass just for being here and then gave him a lecture on loving his Pokemon. Fed up with the whole situation, R^2 runs off before battling.


Uh oh, could this actually be the first challenging Rocket fight ever?

08-14-2008, 06:57 AM

Nope, turns out its just another pair of grunts that happen to have very similar names to the duo from the TV show (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessie_and_James#Jessie.2C_James.2C_and_Meowth).


They even have the same crappy Pokemon. In beating their Koffing Chester hit lv34 and learned FLAMETHROWER, a much more powerful FIRE-type move than EMBER.


So I guess Team Rocket didn't really revive here- they're just assuming that Giovanni will return one day to reclaim his throne as crimelord. After the beating he took from RED in the original game, though, I doubt whether he'll bother.


He doesn't even have any better Pokemon than his grunts, coming at me with stuff like Zubat and Koffing still. After the battle he runs off to inform the other Rockets of what has happened.

08-14-2008, 07:09 AM

A Murkrow (which he left behind for some reason) is nice enough to give up the password for that locked door we passed earlier. Back to B2!


After opening the door the TEAM ROCKET EXECUTIVE we defeated runs up with a second EXECUTIVE in tow. They were planning on double teaming me with the monsters, but LANCE runs up at the last second to help out.


We get to fight the new EXECUTIVE in this battle. I guess that Murkrow downstairs was hers because she sends it into battle against Chester; it falls in one hit to FLAMETHROWER. After the fight, she laments the fact that I'm such a do-gooder because I could have been one hell of a Rocket Executive.


Before running off, Team Rocket declares this experiment a total success and warns us that we've yet to see the full power of Team Rocket. Yeah, yeah that's what they all say; I'm not too worried.

08-14-2008, 07:25 AM

It turns out that LANCE is kind of a dick, making a 10 year old do most of the work in taking out an international crime syndicate. I guess maybe he just wanted to see the trust and love I have for my Pokemon or some such garbage, but I would think it would be safer to just battle me than put my life in danger like that.


Now that the Rockets are gone we have to disable the radio signal that was forcing Magikarp to evolve at LAKE OF RAGE. Much like the Ampharos powering the Lighthouse earlier, the Rockets power their entire base using a set of six Electrodes. Seeing no sort of switch to turn off the transmitter, LANCE decides our best option is to just knock the monsters out. I'm not exactly sure how this would work, though, because I would assume that they'd just go back to powering the thing as soon as they wake up again...


I caught one of the Electrodes just for completion's sake. Electrode isn't especially notable for much other than the fact that he's one of the faster Pokemon.


Now that we've taken down the six Pokemon the signal has stopped its broadcast. In thanks for my help LANCE gives me a Clamperl. In the original version of the game he would give up the HM for the move WHIRLPOOL, but that wasn't one of the HMs in Pokemon Fire Red; I guess they don't call them HACKs for nothing. The Clamperl LANCE gives us comes with the move WHIRLPOOL and you're expected to never forget that move ever. There are a number of monsters that learn the move naturally (like the Goldeen/Seaking we caught previously), but if you don't have any of them on hand you will be unable to get through whirlpools in this hack. The badge from this city is required before you can use the move outside of battle.


08-14-2008, 07:30 AM
The past few updates had me wondering if you were nearing the end of the game already. You're not though, right?

08-14-2008, 07:39 AM

Exiting the base, I head into the seventh gym. The whole theme of this gym is ICE-type monsters, although many of them have WATER-types as well. The floor is another one of these annoying sliding in a straight line ice puzzles that game developers seem to love so much, although it was pretty easy for me to figure out. I'm pretty sure that this gym is the only place in the game where the skiing and snowboarding types of trainers show up.


Hitting level 36, Chester finally evolved into a Charizard! Upon level up he also learned his first FLYING-type move, WING ATTACK. Charizard's typing is FIRE/FLYING instead of just FIRE like his previous forms.


This is probably one of the few times you'll ever see a JYNX in anything Pokemon-related. They can't really get rid of her at this point, but Nintendo of America is really embarrassed by this almost blackface monster. FUN NINTENDO FACT: I visited the Pokemon Center in NYC (now the Nintendo World Store) around the time that Pokemon Gold and Silver were still the newest games around. They had miniature figures of every monster in stock in the store except Jynx because (according to the employees) they were afraid of backlash from the African American community.


PRYCE, master of ICE, is the leader of this gym. Since I had been focusing on getting Chester to evolve, though, I'm way overleveled for his monsters. Taking that into account as well as my type advantage versus ICE and its any easy victory.

08-14-2008, 07:46 AM
The past few updates had me wondering if you were nearing the end of the game already. You're not though, right?

Sort of. I've only got one more gym badge to get and then its off to the "end bosses" of the game. In the original G/S/C games you can go back and fight the gyms from R/B/Y after that, but I'm not sure how much of that is implemented in this hack. I plan on going as far as possible, though!


PRYCE gives up the GLACIERBADGE and the TM for the move ICY WIND. ICY WIND does a small amount of ice damage to an opponent and lowers their speed stat one level. With this badge I can also use WHIRLPOOL outside of battle.


Leaving the gym I get a POKEBEEPER message from PROFESSOR ELM. It turns out that something strange is going on at GOLDENROD CITY's radio tower. Could this be the work of Team Rocket? Well, assuming I just took down a small-scale experiment of theirs using radio waves I'd say the answer is "duh."


Before that, though, I'm going to head to the east of town a stretch to catch a few Pokemon.

08-14-2008, 07:49 AM
Charizard is Fire/Flying instead of just Fire now, making him even less effective against the Ice-type monsters he should be perfect against.

08-14-2008, 07:53 AM

I was able to pick up a few more random GRASS-type monsters here, but that's not the real reason I'm here...


This is the reason! Lickitung happens to be my favorite monster, at least from an aesthetic standpoint. He's not especially strong, but you can do some interesting things with him if you use the right TMs.


Having finished what I came here for, I head out for GOLDENROD CITY to have a final showdown with Team Rocket.


And that's enough for today's update. Thanks to Chester evolving, I now have the option of teaching him FLY and dropping Flying Rat all together from the squad. I know there are points where I'll be forced to take on Clampearl to get through WHIRLPOOLs, but my sixth member is in your hands Talking Time. Still keep in mind that I fully intend to replace Ferret with Espeon when/if I ever find a Sun Stone. I know there is one available from the bug catching game if I catch a Scyther or Pinsir, but each time I've checked back it hasn't been up again.

Next Time: Radio City Rumble

08-14-2008, 07:55 AM
Charizard is Fire/Flying instead of just Fire now, making him even less effective against the Ice-type monsters he should be perfect against.

Yeah, when I said advantage I meant more in that he's pretty fast and has moves that were super effective versus his opponents. At least he isn't super effected by ICE like most other FLYING-types, though.

08-14-2008, 08:34 AM
Lickitung. Do it. For the good of mankind.

08-14-2008, 10:22 AM
Evolve Dratini into Dragonair!

08-14-2008, 10:29 AM
Right now im just looking at the boxes and wondering if Machop, Paras, Makuhita, Magnetmite or Mawile become any good.

08-14-2008, 01:02 PM
Yes, No, Not really, Only in fourth-gen, No.

08-15-2008, 07:03 AM
8/15/2008 - Team Rocket Takedown, part I


Here's today's team. I only got two votes (one for Lickitung, one for Dratini) so I just choose the first one that came in. I'm going to be focusing on evolving GaryGrover first and foremost, though.


Since I dropped Flying Rat from my team, I tossed FLY on our newly airborne Chester. While FLY isn't the best choice for a FLYING-type move in the long run for him, I don't intend to ever competitively player vs player battle with him so it shouldn't be an issue.


It looks like the Rockets have totally overrun GOLDENROD CITY. I thought it was kinda neat that the hack changed this random member's flavor text to mention the Team Rocket equivalent from Pokemon Ruby.


Its a good thing the members of Team Rocket are so competent, randomly spouting their entire plans to random kids running around the city. I mean, if we hadn't already learned this from the others we'd beaten up in MAHOGANY TOWN.


Aww, but I really wanted to see how this place works! I guess terrorists taking over the building is cause enough to cancel the tours, though.


08-15-2008, 07:14 AM

After battling my way through eight or ten Rockets to get to the third floor, this random lady still milling about the building tells me that the DIRECTOR can get me through to the Rocket boss. I guess she's supposed to be a hostage or something? I never understood why Team Rocket never bothered to tie up or even isolate their hostages in a central area- they just run free wherever they normally mill about.


One of the trainers up on the fourth floor has another one of my favorite Pokemon, Porygon. Until Diamond and Pearl, though, he's mostly just an oddity rather than a powerhouse and is easily dispatched.


Reaching the fifth floor, we find the DIRECTOR alone and unharmed. It turns out, though, that he's really an impostor and attacks us with his team of four Weezings.


His team's whole strategy is to use SELF-DESTRUCT over and over until he's on his last monster, so GaryGrover, Snapper and Chester all bite the dust against his kamikaze Pokemon. After his defeat, he informs us that the real DIRECTOR is hidden somewhere in the UNDERGROUND (the same area where we found the COIN CASE before).

08-15-2008, 07:16 AM

I've forgotten to mention it this whole time but the front view sprite of this kid really looks like he's wearing an eyepatch to me. "Arrr, gimme yer Pokemon or walk the plank!"

08-15-2008, 07:18 AM

Before leaving, he gives up the BASEMENT KEY so that we can get beyond that blue door that was locked the last time we went to the UNDERGROUND. This leads to the Rocket's UNDERGROUND WAREHOUSE.

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As soon as we enter the area, R^2 shows up. He says he tailed us to get inside and that's he's going to take out Team Rocket himself. Before that, he's got some business to take care of!


08-15-2008, 07:25 AM

R^2's team is a little different this time around, with a number of members having evolved since the last time we faced him. In addition, he's added a Sneasel to the linup. Sneasel is a DARK/ICE Pokemon that, like a lot of the more interesting second generation monsters, doesn't really get that good until Diamond and Pearl when he gains another evolutionary form. GaryGrover got laid out early by one of Golbat's POISON-type moves, but Chester was able to sweep the rest of his team with FLAMETHROWER.

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R^2 finally has a revelation about his training style after taking another sound beating by my team. He still vows revenge before leaving, but it looks like his battle style might have a different outlook next time...

And that's all for today's installment! Next time I'll finish off Team Rocket and make my way toward the eighth and final gym before the Elite Four. No new Pokemon were caught today, so I didn't grab a shot of the boxes, but if for some reason you'd like to see a change in the lineup, that choice is in your hands Talking Time.

Next Time: Worst...Gym...Ever...

08-16-2008, 01:03 PM
Dratini/Dragonair, please! Preferably switching out Godzilla, since he doesn't seem to be doing much. Also: [Dragonbreath gets a STAB bonus from him and is only blocked by one type]. There's just so much to gain!

08-18-2008, 06:50 AM
8/18/8 - No Ice Moves?!


Here's my current lineup, resuming where we left off last time. I plan on subbing in Dratini for Ocotpus Prime when I get back around a PC (he still needs a nickname!).


There are a number of shutters and three switches that open and close specific ones depending on what order they are pressed. Pressing them out of order will give you access to some items- a SMOKE BALL and a FULL HEAL.


In addition to Team Rocket grunts there are a few BURGULARs here. Outside of the occasional Growlithe, they mostly use the same monsters as the Rockets.


Pressing the switches in the order 2 (middle), 1 (right), 3 (left) will give access to the inner parts of the WAREHOUSE.


Before heading in, though, I ran back to town for a heal. The biggest problems with Team Rocket right now is the fact that they use so many SELFDESTRUCTing Koffings. While at the Pokemon Center I swap out Gozilla for the requested Dratini.


GaryGrover learned his first worthwhile GRASS-type move at level 29, LEAF BLADE. It has a much higher attack power than ABSORB did and also has a good chance of landing critical hits.


08-18-2008, 06:57 AM

Guarding the DIRECTOR is our fourth "rival" set of trainers, JESS & JAMIE. Any time things like this are added it really proves that the hacker's strong suit is not writing...


They still have the same Koffing and Ekans, but they did add a Wobuffet to the lineup. GaryGrover went down to POISON-type attacks, but then Chester and Ferret were able to sweep the opponents.



08-18-2008, 07:03 AM

Working my way past the last few grunts in my way, I rescue the DIRECTOR. He gives me the card key to get past the shutter in the RADIO TOWER to save not only the tower itself, but all Pokemon nation-wide from Team Rocket's clutches.


By the way, it turns out that Team Rocket's WAREHOUSE directly connected to the basement of the GOLDENROD department store.


Returning to the third floor of the tower, I was able to open the shutter with the CARD KEY and continue on.


08-18-2008, 07:11 AM

Finally reaching the top of the tower, I'm once again confronted by the female EXECUTIVE from the previous Rocket base. The only new addition to her team in a Vileplume [POISON/GRASS] that Chester takes out with a single FLAMETHROWER.


So it turns out that Team Rocket is even dumber than I thought. Despite the experiments earlier, they never intended to broadcast Pokemon-controlling radio waves over the nation. Rather, they simply wanted to broadcast to the world that Team Rocket has returned in the sad, sad hope that GIOVANNI would hear their cries and return to lead their poor misguided flock.


The EXECUTIVE has one of my favorite second gen additions to Pokemon, the FIRE/DARK-type Houndour and Houndoom. Not that his monsters or passion for Team Rocket really matters, though, because a trouncing at the hands of a ten year old trainer knocked the wind out of his sails completely. He admits defeat and resolves to disband Team Rocket once again.


08-18-2008, 07:29 AM

The DIRECTOR returns to thank us for saving the RADIO TOWER. He hands over a RAINBOW WING, an item that is used to obtain the legendary bird Ho-oh. After handing over the item, he tells a story about how the monster's nest used to be in the tower on this site previously, but they tore it down to build the RADIO TOWER. He thinks that the misplaced monster might have relocated to ECRUTEAK CITY's TIN TOWER, though.


While I didn't go back to catch Ho-oh just yet, I did return to the BURNED TOWER basement and unleash the three legendary dogs, Entei, Raikou and Suicune upon the world. The three dogs can appear randomly anywhere in the world as a wild Pokemon battle. The dogs frequently run from battle, so generally you have to wear them down over time. If you happen to KO one, though, its gone forever.


I caught a Raticate while I was down there.


Heading east past MAHOGANY TOWN, I reach the ICE PATH but...


*Sigh* This guy is getting rather annoying. His new lineup is Pidgeot, Miltank, Chansey and Blastoise. While under any other trainer this would be a nightmare of MILK DRINKing and SOFTBOILED HP restoration, the incompetent CARLOS bites the dust after a series of OHKOs handed out by GaryGrover and Chester.

08-18-2008, 07:32 AM
Once again I must bestow upon you the hacker's mastery of composition:

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Now I hope you can understand why I hate CARLOS and his copycat added trainers so much. I was giving you probably 1/10th of what I had to read each time I came upon one of these guys and each one was more groan-inducing than the last. Here's to hoping he doesn't show up very much between now and the end.