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Traumadore
04-27-2010, 12:43 PM
Hey y'all. This is the return of the themed art-making challenge, since there was some interest in restarting it. General ground rules include:

1. The THEME will be a word, phrase or song. THEMEs will not include established characters or imagery. This will be about translating/complementing something non-visual.

2. The intervals will last roughly ONE WEEK.

3. The images can be any size or level of polish, since I don't want time commitment to get in the way of participation. That said, this will be a lot more fun if you push yourself every week.

4. There is no wrong interpretation of the THEME.

5. You can post as many images as you want. I encourage multiple entries!

6. Please include the THEME in the title or top of a post that includes an image so that visitors will be informed as the pages roll over.

Just to clarify we will not have themes centered around creating fanart, but as per rule 4 if you want your interpretation to intersect with fan-art that is allowed. I know how you guys love the stuff. Something I want to encourage with Rules 3 and 5 is the idea of studies and iterations. I would love to see people make multiple versions of an image, pushing it further every time. Feel free to include visual research including thumbnails, preliminary sketches, detail studies, color studies, and digital manipulations. This will help you build a process, which is one of the most valuable things you can have as an artist. Finally, please recommend themes. Especially if they intersect with an idea you have for a personal work. Getting the community involved will encourage you to work!

The Inaugural THEME Is:

BROAD

Get it? Now get crackin!

MCBanjoMike
04-27-2010, 12:44 PM
The Inaugural THEME Is:

BROAD

Someone draw me one with

LEGS UP TO HERE

would ya?

Balrog
04-27-2010, 12:51 PM
Look at the gams on that one!

Traumadore
04-27-2010, 01:50 PM
Someone draw me one with

LEGS UP TO HERE

would ya?

I don't know if this is what you had in mind, but I'll get that out of the way.
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/legsuptohere.png

I will of course be doing a couple more during the week. Can't wait to see what you all come up with! P.S. It's a man!

MCBanjoMike
04-27-2010, 01:53 PM
Oh man, that's awesome.

gamin
04-27-2010, 08:13 PM
BROADs, you say?

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1kdnjefYD1qaapspo1_500.jpg

There's even some LEGS UP TO HERE

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5163/scan2n.jpg

Coincidentally, this is all conceptual stuff for the comic I've been planning. I'm hoping to use the Broad theme to expound upon and iterate my main character.

AJR
04-27-2010, 09:05 PM
Man those character designs look nice.

Traumadore
04-27-2010, 09:10 PM
So she is the type who will buy three different colors of the shirt she likes, huh?

blinkpen
04-27-2010, 09:49 PM
Man, it has been quite a while since I just did some random drawing for exercise purposes. And it shows! Here is an awful thing that I made:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b389/grendarpics/mehtective.gif

Something tells me this broad is none too nervous. No, she seems more the hardboiled type.

I opted in this experiment to do battle with my ancient nemesis, Cross-Hatching. I don't think I came out the victor. Also I always have trouble with hat brims for some reason. Hats always fuck with my sense of perspective.

Comb Stranger
04-27-2010, 10:01 PM
I would have enjoyed this, if I didn't just do it for class. I have a nifty 11x17 print of 'Scale' if it comes up.

Traumadore
04-27-2010, 10:19 PM
I opted in this experiment to do battle with my ancient nemesis, Cross-Hatching. I don't think I came out the victor. Also I always have trouble with hat brims for some reason. Hats always fuck with my sense of perspective.

Cross hatching is tough, but you Did The Right Thing by using it sparingly. It's the easiest way to overdraw something for sure. You could continue to draw portraits of noir detectives until you really nail the hats and their distinctive shadows. Maybe do an array of smaller ones with less focus on the facial features aside from that shadow.

I would have enjoyed this, if I didn't just do it for class. I have a nifty 11x17 print of 'Scale' if it comes up.

Well you could always post it anyway, the THEME is rather broad. Either way, I know you can dash something out in no time. The key difference between this and your classes is that you don't have to justify or overthink anything. Just do it!

Violentvixen
04-27-2010, 11:31 PM
"Broad" made me think of the phrase "the broad lawns of suburbia" for some reason, so here's a lady trying to fix her lawnmower:

http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/annumd/broad.jpg

I'm pretty unhappy with how the face and hand came out, but since I draw something maybe once a year I can't get too upset.

Traumadore
04-27-2010, 11:37 PM
Sweet! I wouldn't be too upset with your figure either, since "iconic" is about the most you can hope for when you draw a small person. And it is that. You have a commendable selection of pens for someone who draws maybe once a year. Do you have some paints/broad markers for some bold color?

Donny
04-28-2010, 12:02 AM
http://titusandmal.com/art/broad.jpg

I'll do a real one and the expected lady times one tomorrow.

Violentvixen
04-28-2010, 08:26 AM
Sweet! I wouldn't be too upset with your figure either, since "iconic" is about the most you can hope for when you draw a small person. And it is that. You have a commendable selection of pens for someone who draws maybe once a year. Do you have some paints/broad markers for some bold color?

Ha, these are a box of Crayola markers I've had forever! I definitely don't have any paint, but I do have an art set I got as a gift many years ago that probably has some other markers. I'd have to dig it out and see.

Thanks for the "iconic" mention, though. That's what I was going for.

Kirin
04-28-2010, 08:30 AM
Something tells me this broad is none too nervous. No, she seems more the hardboiled type.

That... that broad. Where in the World is she?

_L_
04-28-2010, 11:15 AM
http://l.j-factor.com/thelostpanels/queenantaudience.png

I dunno either.

philliam
04-28-2010, 12:00 PM
BROADs, you say?

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1kdnjefYD1qaapspo1_500.jpg



this owns

gamin
04-28-2010, 07:57 PM
I did some digital coloring of yesterday's sketch.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1m7xwhEAM1qaapspo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId =0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1272592602&Signature=L8ZRjBW1CDNzJ2w%2BEY8HIXy2w08%3D

philliam
04-28-2010, 09:13 PM
get that head bigger brah, its too tiny!

gamin
04-28-2010, 11:24 PM
Wow, I can't believe how oblivious I was to the head size--it's funny how I can just completely miss something major even after spending a few hours working and staring at it.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1520/thegirlwhofellonherasst.jpg

EDIT: Guess Tumblr direct links don't last long.

philliam
04-29-2010, 01:02 AM
shit happens

looks good though, but what pen are you using? because inking style looks inconsistent in some parts

gamin
04-29-2010, 12:15 PM
Good eye, there--I started with a brush pen, and then did a fair amount of touchup and relining in Photoshop. Also with the cardigan, I tried to do looser, faster strokes to try and get the effect of it fluttering, but it didn't quite translate.

philliam
04-29-2010, 06:12 PM
is it your first time using it? you should try to us that flexible tip to your advantage

any here's my leggy broads contribution

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4564539550_e01b43c23b_o.jpg

Zodar
04-29-2010, 11:11 PM
derppp
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2986/tvhead.png

gamin
05-01-2010, 12:45 PM
philliam, very cool little creatures, I especially like the ghost hill and mountain fellows. Are you using a brush pen on that? The line quality is great and it suggests folds and movement. At the moment I'm having trouble finding proper ink to refill my brush pen, I don't want more cartridges, so I tried manually refilling with sumi ink, but that didn't work nearly as well. I'll try India ink next.

Zodar, the color over the sketchy lines is a nice look, and the screen head has an awesome expression. The feet are a little weird, like they're almost duplicate. Seems like one should be angled differently.

Traumadore
05-01-2010, 04:27 PM
Oh yay, Philliam and Zodar, awesome! You guys are just simply creative. I love the little tiny critter tush.

Also, judging by high heel spider I think _L_ has some lady issues. Tell us more.

philliam
05-01-2010, 05:34 PM
philliam, very cool little creatures, I especially like the ghost hill and mountain fellows. Are you using a brush pen on that? The line quality is great and it suggests folds and movement. At the moment I'm having trouble finding proper ink to refill my brush pen, I don't want more cartridges, so I tried manually refilling with sumi ink, but that didn't work nearly as well. I'll try India ink next.

this the pen i use http://www.sakuraofamerica.com/Pen-Brush

no need to refill or dip your brush, although it does get a nice rich black as india ink can get.

what do you mean about refilling? because if i do use a brush or pen with a thing of ink, i just dip it in there

dip it in dip it in yea yea

Oscar
05-02-2010, 12:22 PM
http://i763.photobucket.com/albums/xx275/sentances/broad.jpg

You decide!

Traumadore
05-02-2010, 12:25 PM
I can't see it! :(

Oscar
05-02-2010, 12:34 PM
How about now?

Traumadore
05-02-2010, 12:47 PM
I still cannot, but I'll admit I don't keep my browser super updated so it might be a bug. Maybe someone else will chime in that they can, in fact, see your picture.

Kirin
05-02-2010, 01:16 PM
Yeah, I see it fine. It's just a jpg hosted on photobucket, so I dunno what the problem is for you.

DarkBlueFlannel
05-02-2010, 01:32 PM
Will anyone take umbrage if I add a geometrically pointy but otherwise inconspicuous bosom to this thread? I mean, I don't know if anyone here remembers how I draw figures.

Traumadore
05-02-2010, 02:17 PM
Will anyone take umbrage if I add a geometrically pointy but otherwise inconspicuous bosom to this thread? I mean, I don't know if anyone here remembers how I draw figures.

Yes? I remember how to draw figures, that is. Is it a figure drawing?

Also, I don't know what's up that I can't see that image, since it's exactly the same way I post mine. My computer just wants to pretend it doesn't exist.

DarkBlueFlannel
05-02-2010, 02:45 PM
Is it a figure drawing?

It will be. I just saw this thread earlier so I haven't had time to come up with much of an idea but it's gestating in the brain-mush. I will be using broad as a slang term for woman but I want to make sure that's not the only broad thing about it.

I'm thinking broad, broad sword, broadway, landscape orientation, and the side of a barn you couldn't hit.

nunix
05-03-2010, 01:08 PM
Linked (http://seashellshanty.net/whiteboardlandscape.png) so as not to screw up thread formatting.

I used to draw parts of this on whiteboards at a school I went to (for scale reference, the mountain to the hill would fit on one board, and they were.. I dunno.. 15-20' long? i think). Decided to try filling out a lot more for this thingy, cos I'd always meant to.

Coming up with stuff to fill in alla whitespace is tough. -.- I wish I had my younger-self's imagination.

Done in ArtRage 3 with the ink pen.. I tried to keep the pen size large-ish to reproduce doing it on the whiteboards with medium and large-ish dry erase markers. It's really fun to do, especially with a friend or two, so if you find yourself somewhere with a big whiteboard or a chalkboard, go nuts.

Traumadore
05-03-2010, 01:16 PM
That was really fun. I liked the floating pagoda, floating pyramid land (the second level of Jumping Flash?), the anglerfish lamp, and the rainy land with all the burial mounds and standing stones. Overall the image definitely ignited my curiosity despite the simple drawing.

Oscar
05-03-2010, 01:47 PM
Linked (http://seashellshanty.net/whiteboardlandscape.png) so as not to screw up thread formatting.


Wow, I really like this! I think the simple drawings are actually pretty effective -- they force me to use my imagination, and your picture has painted some really beautiful scenery in my head! The rainy land is really nice, and I also like the place with kind of lots of hills on one hill? Yeah.

Traumadore
05-03-2010, 03:17 PM
By the way Hajile, I finally saw your creepy lady on a different computer. I enjoyed your big obvious label + self-doubting subtitle. I'm going to go with alien. But then again, I wonder if that isn't the way a woman would look at you when you ask "are you really going to wear that gawdy tie over your cardigan?"

nunix
05-03-2010, 05:30 PM
Is Zodar's piece titled "blues drive monster"?!

DarkBlueFlannel
05-03-2010, 06:07 PM
I threw out all the other ideas and just went with a wide image like Nunix's. Although, I can't hardly get near the width of his. Anyway, finally I get some milage out of a texture. (Broken Link Removed)

I could've made the legs longer but gymnasts are typically very short.

Deptford
05-04-2010, 07:46 AM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j293/ReenayeStarr/broadway.jpg?t=1272980305
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j293/ReenayeStarr/broadface.jpg?t=1272980400
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j293/ReenayeStarr/broad11.jpg?t=1272980429

Traumadore
05-04-2010, 05:50 PM
Thank you for wordlessly treating us with 4 people and a dog stuck in a stockade together while some giant watches from the edge of their artificial world. I like that. A lot. The others I would be hard pressed to even describe, very weird!

And Darkblue Flannel its nice to see your work. I'll admit that I am a huge detractor of vector art, but the gesture is fun and the texture absolutely saves it. Good choice.

Thank you everyone for participating in the inaugural week of the Art Aerobics thread! I hope that every single one of you, even those occasional artists, joins in every week. It was really great to see this level of participation and I hope it increases. You may also rib me for not getting another piece done in time.

I think you all are really going to like this weeks THEME, which is:

THING(S) RIDING THING(S)

locknloadetc!

nunix
05-04-2010, 06:27 PM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j293/ReenayeStarr/broad11.jpg?t=1272980429

Oh man i meant to respond to this one before T started the new topic.

ANYWAY

I imagine she is a mermaid at a coastal sideshow/arcade dealie, where they had a lady with fake fins behind a fishtank so it looked like she was inside and swimmin', except this lady is an actual mermaid and totally bored and down on life, also her name is Doris(?!) or possibly Flo(rence).

Deptford
05-04-2010, 06:28 PM
I'll probably do several again this time, but fascinatingly, this is the first thing I ended up making upon reading the theme:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j293/ReenayeStarr/5-4-201082234PM.jpg?t=1273019146

Traumadore
05-04-2010, 07:06 PM
Well someone is on the ball. Did you just draw the Id, Ego, and Superego? You're so deep Deptford, and dreamy. Here is a sketch of a little reptile and a bigger reptile. They are fantastical. I'll do a color version later, I just wanted to post something before gaaaame niiiiiiight!

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/lizardman.jpg

Violentvixen
05-04-2010, 11:17 PM
I threw out all the other ideas and just went with a wide image like Nunix's. Although, I can't hardly get near the width of his. Anyway, finally I get some milage out of a texture. (http://postables.net/pictures/tt_gymnast_small2.jpg)

I could've made the legs longer but gymnasts are typically very short.

I like this very much.

NevznachaY
05-05-2010, 06:14 AM
I like this very much.

DarkBlueFlannel
05-05-2010, 09:20 AM
They like me! They really like me!

Anyway, regarding the new topic, a while back I had the inclination to draw a picture of Nanako riding on the back of a gigantic whale yelling, "WHALE-SONA!!!". Never finished the thing though...

Traumadore
05-05-2010, 09:44 AM
Well you could finish it now. Doesn't mean it would make any sense to me, but you could.

DarkBlueFlannel
05-08-2010, 02:48 PM
I don't think it would ever make sense. So, I did something else...

*Image Removed*

I won't try to tell you that you're wrong about vector artwork, Traumadore, but I will tell you why I work with it. Primarily, it's because of the clean results. My scribbles are messy because my hand is unpredictable. I have a hard time getting clean lines in Photoshop so I prefer the more methodical path drawing in Illustrator.

By the way, you're comment, in the first post, about needing a process is 100% good advice and I put my stamp of approval on it.

Traumadore
05-10-2010, 10:21 PM
[QUOTE=DarkBlueFlannel;754868] because of the clean results. My scribbles are messy because my hand is unpredictable. I have a hard time getting clean lines in Photoshop so I prefer the more methodical path drawing in Illustrator.
QUOTE]

Well that's perfectly valid reasoning, but I think that the medium is at a handicap. You have to work much harder to create something that can hold the eye's attention. You're definitely on your way though. I struggle to make anything remotely organic in vector art. Fine detail and deep atmosphere are the potential strengths if the artist has the patience, and I think it's clear you do.

It's a cute picture. There's a little bit of visual confusion where the white tooth of the bullet is adjacent to the white part of the cloud gradient. Otherwise very iconic, and like I said you make it look easy. And I know it isn't.

So, do you actually work off a pencil sketch or just sculpt it from nothing in the software?

Anyway here's the lizard riding the lizard, in color!

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/Lizardman2.jpg

Turned out decent for an hours work, and at least it means I did some art for the day. Although the background is still vague the subject is grounded nicely. Subject/background integration is my eternal "thing to work on". Otherwise the figures are somewhat more lazily cartooned than I would usually do, but I was going for speed.

I hope at least a couple more people are going to join in this week. Remember there is no requirement on size or technique. And if you absolutely can't make time to draw then let us know any ideas you have for the future.

nunix
05-10-2010, 10:51 PM
Yeah I kinda stumped on a good thing(s)-riding-on-thing(s), and we're outta time, so.. will see what the next one turns up.

DarkBlueFlannel
05-11-2010, 09:06 AM
So, do you actually work off a pencil sketch or just sculpt it from nothing in the software?

I always do a sketch and scan it. I have trouble getting the proportions right if I eschew the pencil drawing. Since one spends so much time zoomed in, it's easy to completely lose the sense of scale.

Regarding your illustration, I prefer the loose background because it gives all the necessary visual information without drawing attention to itself. Or rather, it doesn't draw attention away from the subject.

I have to ask, what do you mean "grounded"? I want to be clear, do you mean the lizard looks like it is properly standing on the ground and not like it's levitating?

Anyway, I'm looking forward to this week's subject.

Patrick
05-11-2010, 09:20 AM
Anyway, I'm looking forward to this week's subject.

I am too! It's really interesting to see what everyone comes up with, and TT has a lot of talented artists.

Traumadore
05-11-2010, 09:30 AM
Yeah I kinda stumped on a good thing(s)-riding-on-thing(s), and we're outta time, so.. will see what the next one turns up.

You could always do one of your delightful cave-painting guys riding a cave-thing!

I always do a sketch and scan it. I have trouble getting the proportions right if I eschew the pencil drawing. Since one spends so much time zoomed in, it's easy to completely lose the sense of scale.

I have to ask, what do you mean "grounded"? I want to be clear, do you mean the lizard looks like it is properly standing on the ground and not like it's levitating?


Good to know, you should post your sketches too! And yes, by "grounded" I mean that it is not floating above the background, but is standing or interacting with it. Part of the problem is that I usually draw to large and end up cropping a lot of the figure too, so you usually don't see the bottom. I need to make a conscious effort to frame the whole subject if I want to make a portfolio of character concept art.

nunix
05-11-2010, 03:51 PM
You could always do one of your delightful cave-painting guys riding a cave-thing!

oh man i didn't even think of that, i feel super dumb now -.- Aren't we due for a new thing today, though?

EDIT:

http://seashellshanty.net/historicride.png

whee i contributed this week ;D

Traumadore
05-12-2010, 09:58 AM
SO, Lost Planet 2 is pretty fun with a buddy.

I'm glad you drew something Nunix, it's all about flexing those art muscles regularly! The beast looks kind of mutated. I've decided it's a cave painting from cave silent hill. We should get you some sweet rock textures to draw over.

Anyway, I apologise for not getting it up last night (haw), but this will have to do. I'll still plan on posting the next THEME on Tuesday the 18th.

This weeks THEME is:

GASTROBOT

Now do that voodoo that you do so well. I will be posting some preliminaries tonight. I'm at work right now.

nunix
05-12-2010, 11:55 AM
I'm glad you drew something Nunix, it's all about flexing those art muscles regularly! The beast looks kind of mutated. I've decided it's a cave painting from cave silent hill. We should get you some sweet rock textures to draw over.

Yeahhh.. it started out as some kind of dino and then I decided to make it an ox-thing and.. well.. there it is. -.- Also, prehistoric horror is the best horror, so now I need to make some Silent Cave drawings.

I've been looking for rock textures for a long time. Artrage has some roughness settings for the different canvas textures, but all anyone has for texture samples is, well, canvas and paper of various sorts. There's a blackboard texture which works okay for slate, but I'd really like something else. I went up to the Columbia Gorge last November and photo'd different rock walls, but found that the paint lines really didn't contrast very well, and wound up getting lost.

But now for.. gastrobot. Trying to come up with different ways to parse that besides gastro-bot. gas-trobot? gast-robot? (as in "ghast") ManySome possibilities!

Oscar
05-12-2010, 12:55 PM
Okay, this time I have the black and white version of the picture, too!

http://i43.tinypic.com/qoda9f.jpg

And then:

http://i40.tinypic.com/2rbzfpl.jpg

Hmm, a smoking robot. I'm pretty pleased with it, but I think the shading could be a bit better, particularly on the face.

Anyway, I want to say THANKYOU for making this thread, as it's good practice for my arting skills, and a lot of fun!

EDIT: Now with shaded tie!

Traumadore
05-12-2010, 01:36 PM
You're welcome, glad you're enjoying it. I wouldn't have noticed the tie unless you tipped me off but now it is just staring out at me. I really like the bold, slightly unhinged tone of this one. The light and shadow are making it work, so keep practicing that. You've a good tight color palette this time too.

I think your drawing has some decent variations in line weight. It's a digital ink painting, right? In the future maybe you can experiment with very fine marks for texture, and give extra consideration to composition/negative space. For instance here your figure bulges out and becomes tangential with three of the picture edges, and even the smoke stops short of the top. Since you're on the computer you can always re-frame an image if you find your composition in need.

Conceptually I like how your "robot" is very human at a glance, but has small details that give it away and makes it a little unpleasant.

Nunix: don't limit yourself just to the word itself if it's stifling you, any association or interpretation you can manage is fair game.

Oscar
05-12-2010, 01:48 PM
You're welcome, glad you're enjoying it. I wouldn't have noticed the tie unless you tipped me off but now it is just staring out at me. I really like the bold, slightly unhinged tone of this one. The light and shadow are making it work, so keep practicing that. You've a good tight color palette this time too.

I think your drawing has some decent variations in line weight. It's a digital ink painting, right? In the future maybe you can experiment with very fine marks for texture, and give extra consideration to composition/negative space. For instance here your figure bulges out and becomes tangential with three of the picture edges, and even the smoke stops short of the top. Since you're on the computer you can always re-frame an image if you find your composition in need.

Conceptually I like how your "robot" is very human at a glance, but has small details that give it away and makes it a little unpleasant.

Nunix: don't limit yourself just to the word itself if it's stifling you, any association or interpretation you can manage is fair game.

Thanks! Actually, I inked this by hand with a brush, then scanned it in to colour on Photoshop. I feel like I have more control over line thickness this way (something which I'm trying really hard to get good at), and I just prefer the whole experience to using something digital.

You're right about using finer brush strokes to add texture/depth -- I actually tried it a bit with this picture, before realising the brush I was using was way too thick for that. SO: new brush. Better skills. Get to it, me!

Composition wise, you're right again (that robot is pretty cramped), but I'm putting this one down to paper size and lack of computer editing know-how.

Anyway, thanks for your feedback, and I look forward to seeing your image for the week!

(p.s, are multiple entries for one week allowed? I love drawing robots!)

nunix
05-12-2010, 01:51 PM
don't limit yourself just to the word itself if it's stifling you, any association or interpretation you can manage is fair game.

Oh, I thought it was Iron Chef-y. Hmm, alright.

Traumadore
05-12-2010, 02:11 PM
Wow, I like to think I can spot digital ink, but you got me fooled this time. A few of the marks (like the smoke) made me think it was real, but the overall consistency and occasional "chalky" texture made me think digital. I don't enjoy working on the computer either.

Traumadore
05-13-2010, 09:43 PM
Here's those doodles. I'm going to be developing at least a couple of these. Saturday is Arturday.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/gastro.jpg

Kirin
05-14-2010, 08:19 AM
Those square-ish people-eating things vaguely remind me of some of the Jovian tech from Battle Angle Alita... or maybe a combination of them and the Venusians.

Traumadore
05-16-2010, 09:21 PM
Those square-ish people-eating things vaguely remind me of some of the Jovian tech from Battle Angle Alita... or maybe a combination of them and the Venusians.

I have no idea what you're talking about! I only know what Battle Angel Alita is because Parish has written about it a couple times. At least it's only a vague reminder. I hate it when you think you did something original only to find it's exactly like something that already exists. I finished my first one. I'll be doing a couple more (the squarish types).

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/gastrobot1.jpg

Kirin
05-17-2010, 07:24 AM
I have no idea what you're talking about! I only know what Battle Angel Alita is because Parish has written about it a couple times. At least it's only a vague reminder. I hate it when you think you did something original only to find it's exactly like something that already exists. I finished my first one. I'll be doing a couple more (the squarish types).

Oh, no, don't worry about it, it's really not that alike at all. It just gave me a similar feeling. And is also an indication of how later Alita (the Last Order series) gets really damn weird.

Traumadore
05-17-2010, 03:21 PM
Good to know anyway.

Speaking of unintentional similarities: Gitaroo Man.

It just occured to me.

nunix
05-17-2010, 03:49 PM
http://seashellshanty.net/gastrobot.png

Once again, nunix participates where he has no business participating!

I did the sketch and then thought I'd do painty stuff and get rid of the sketch lines. Then I started doing that and thought it looked horrible and decided to keep the lines anyway and just do something so I could have something done. -.- Once again, reach exceeded both skill level and patience level. ;D

On the upside, I'm mostly happy that the proportions look more-or-less correct?

Traumadore
05-18-2010, 10:50 AM
Yes, except for the stick neck of course. Anyway, I'm happy you participated. There's only one way to improve, and that's practice! In fact I think you could start to make that process work if you did a few more tries. And you could always sketch the subject multiple times before choosing one for color. No approach is without merit. You just need to get comfortable with it until you know your materials inside and out.

I'll be posting a new topic later today. I hope some of the folks that took a couple weeks break will join in again! I know things like this are always going to grab the most people right off the bat and the challenge is building a group of regular participants.

DarkBlueFlannel
05-18-2010, 11:18 AM
Grumble...

I got side-tracked the past week and wasn't able to draw anything. I'll definitely be back for the next interval's subject. I'm planning to do that digi-painting thing I've been telling myself I should try.

Patrick
05-18-2010, 12:21 PM
Is there a good web-based program for drawing? I'd like to participate just for fun, and if there was an easy way to do it without downloading anything I'd be a lot more inclined to do it.

Traumadore
05-18-2010, 12:23 PM
I don't know... I just drag sticks and things across other things. I feel like some people have used browser based drawing thingies before though.

DarkBlueFlannel
05-18-2010, 01:44 PM
Is there a good web-based program for drawing? I'd like to participate just for fun, and if there was an easy way to do it without downloading anything I'd be a lot more inclined to do it.

I googled "web paint program" and found this (http://www.sumopaint.com/home/). I've never used it though.

Traumadore
05-18-2010, 08:56 PM
Here is a little pet robot garbage disposal! It poops out little fused plasticky spheres, and you'll never have to feel bad about waste anymore!

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/gastrobot2.jpg

I'll post the new THEME shortly. I have been making them up on the spot so far!

Traumadore
05-18-2010, 09:25 PM
This weeks THEME is:

When the noise stopped I finally looked out the window and saw...

I think the narrative implications should get your fires going. I would also like to request a small procedure of posting the THEME in bold/quotes/emphasised in some way at the top/title of a post including a picture. Then people can be in-the-know at a glance. I'll be updating the original post with this information.

Oscar
05-19-2010, 10:39 AM
This weeks THEME is:

When the noise stopped I finally looked out the window and saw...

I think the narrative implications should get your fires going. I would also like to request a small procedure of posting the THEME in bold/quotes/emphasised in some way at the top/title of a post including a picture. Then people can be in-the-know at a glance. I'll be updating the original post with this information.

Nice! I'll post my picture either later tonight or tomorrow. And nice robots - I especially like the human eating, rainbow coloured one. I really love your colouring, actually, and it kind of reminds me of a certain artist... who's name escapes me. But really great pictures! I'm looking forward to seeing what everyone comes up with for the new theme.

Oscar
05-19-2010, 03:03 PM
Sorry guys, another robot!

http://i50.tinypic.com/wiau7l.jpg

Also, the photo-hosting thing kind of messed up the colours, for some reason. The orange highlights on the edges of the characters aren't supposed to be that similar in colour to the background... it kind of makes it stand out less. Oh well! Just imagine this, but with better colours.

nunix
05-19-2010, 05:17 PM
http://seashellshanty.net/cavewindow.png

playing with the gloop pen in artrage studio pro

also i forgot the 'noise' part of the theme and just focused on the 'looked out the window' part so.. we'll see what else i do this week that's more theme-y ;P

Queen Possum
05-19-2010, 06:47 PM
Ooh I want to play.

Of course all my arting stuff is not at my apartment. Here comes some crappy notebook paper arts!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4622586129_7a4be07844_b.jpg

Hooray for cliches!

DarkBlueFlannel
05-19-2010, 07:39 PM
Hooray for cliches!

I considered doing this.

But, what are we looking at? Godzilla? Mother Brain?

Queen Possum
05-19-2010, 08:10 PM
Fin Fang Foom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fin_Fang_Foom) getting ready to put your house in his pants. Or, I don't know, a generic large reptilian creature. Whichever you prefer.

There should've been more scales, but I got lazy.

DarkBlueFlannel
05-20-2010, 06:37 PM
Traumadore wanted to see sketch. So, I post a sketch.

*Former Broken Link*

Yeah, that's what I mean when I say that my sketches are rough. You can see how I rely on the vector conversion step in this with the loose indicators for where the window....things will be. When I vector it, it'll be linked due to the gore.

DarkBlueFlannel
05-21-2010, 07:02 PM
Now, with more color. As I said above, NSF the squeamish. (Link Removed)

This is a mess of poor lighting choices but I was trying to be quick about it. Anyway, I appreciate Traumadore's choice of topic on this one. This is my first experience with drawing something violent. The thread is living up to it's mission statement.

Traumadore
05-22-2010, 09:59 AM
Now, with more color. As I said above, NSF the squeamish. (http://postables.net/pictures/tt_aerobics_topic3_color_sc.jpg)

This is a mess of poor lighting choices but I was trying to be quick about it. Anyway, I appreciate Traumadore's choice of topic on this one. This is my first experience with drawing something violent. The thread is living up to it's mission statement.

Wow, murder lady is really unsettling. I like the gesture, great job on the hands, and the proportions that defy expectations are all working in your favor.

I actually wouldn't say your sketch was bad at all. It served your process perfectly, and actually conveyed a lot of information with little investment. It's a really good example.

DarkBlueFlannel
05-22-2010, 10:42 AM
I'm critical of my sketches because I approach judging them by how far, I believe, they are from being "complete" illustrations. Anyway, you're right it did serve its purpose.

Should we devise some structure for discussing our artworks in this thread? I mean, I could talk at length about my process and how I construct anatomy and how I came around to the geometric figures and how to do color filtering and run-on sentences and so forth. I just assume that most people would skip it as it's likely to be so obscure as to be uninteresting.

Oscar
05-22-2010, 11:22 AM
I'm critical of my sketches because I approach judging them by how far, I believe, they are from being "complete" illustrations. Anyway, you're right it did serve its purpose.

Should we devise some structure for discussing our artworks in this thread? I mean, I could talk at length about my process and how I construct anatomy and how I came around to the geometric figures and how to do color filtering and run-on sentences and so forth. I just assume that most people would skip it as it's likely to be so obscure as to be uninteresting.

I'd read it! I'm always interested to know how people did what they did. And I could write about my awekward methods and how I fumble around a bit and somehow make a picture.

Traumadore
05-22-2010, 09:11 PM
Yeah, go for it. I think a lot of people wouldn't mind seeing a step-by-step walkthrough. I would certainly read it.

DarkBlueFlannel
05-23-2010, 12:04 PM
I'd read it! I'm always interested to know how people did what they did. And I could write about my awekward methods and how I fumble around a bit and somehow make a picture.

Well, there's no need to wait for me. Go ahead, it'll take me several days to write mine. If I'm going to do something in-depth, I need to put together a lot of reference material.

Traumadore
05-23-2010, 06:32 PM
Well, there's no need to wait for me. Go ahead, it'll take me several days to write mine. If I'm going to do something in-depth, I need to put together a lot of reference material.

Yeah, I'll join you, but I'll probably just document something I already made, since I have all the stages easily scannable.

Anyway, here is a kind of muddy and overworked take on When the noises stopped I looked out the window and saw... It's got some good things about it though.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/window.jpg

nunix
05-23-2010, 09:19 PM
http://seashellshanty.net/windownoise.png

concept: a house transported to the northern taiga treeline, in winter, and the noise was a (summoning?) drumkit.

So I've always loved the EGA graphics that Sierra and Prodigy and Apogee/iD used for their games (among many, many others, o' course), and have been mulling lately over doing arty stuff with that palette. I lucked into finding a program called PICEDIT which is (from what I can tell) something that was actually used at Sierra to make the scenes for their games. The drawing tools are relatively simple, but it has the capacity to load in images for tracing (alas, only in .pcx format, and I couldn't get it to work) and some interesting technical stuff for the game engines.

Probably could've done what I wanted a lot better/easier in mspaint, but thought it'd be fun to use this program at least once.

EDIT: couple quick edits

http://seashellshanty.net/windownoise2.png

not happy with the drumkit shadow, and the branch is all goofy, but feel a little better about it now

Traumadore
05-25-2010, 09:27 AM
Oh man, that is a great find. Does it have the limited, kinda funky color palette of those old PC games built into it, or was it a limitation they had to make? I'm really curious.

And yeah, if the shadows were more refined (maybe cool blue? less dark? chiseled down a bit) it would be pretty spot on for that era.

nunix
05-25-2010, 10:02 AM
If you're curious, I snagged it from here (http://www.agidev.com/download/#cat7). The program is a DOS program, so it runs just fine under DOSbox. Here's the interface:

http://seashellshanty.net/picedit_interface.png

On that site is an Articles section with a couple of bits on PICEDIT but they're not terribly useful if you just want to play around with it. Thankfully there's a very complete readme file available in the download zip. I was wrong about it being an "official" program (a little bit of ambiguity on the part of agidev), but it's still pretty interesting.

One limitation it has is that EGA (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/EGA_Table.PNG) is capable of 64 colours total, but only 16 colours at a time. Which is no big deal, but I can't seem to find any way to change the palette colours in PICEDIT, so you're stuck with just what you've got there.

Another curious thing is an artifact relating to the fact that the images you make in PICEDIT can be used in any of the early Sierra games running the AGI engine. And the way AGI drew those pictures is.. I'm not a programmer so I can't articulate this properly, but basically drew things in programmed steps. So I can't just click Fill, and then a blue colour, and re-fill over those shadows. What I CAN do is use the arrows there on the bottom-left, navigate back to the step where I filled it in, delete that step, and insert a new step for the new color. EDIT: more reading: ah, so that's what a vector drawing program is! nice to finally understand that. ;D

Very clunky for casual drawing, obviously, and I don't know if I'll use it again, but interesting insight into a bygone age o' techno-wizardry.

DarkBlueFlannel
05-25-2010, 07:41 PM
I don't know if it's unfortunate or awesome that nunix's tools and method are, somehow, more interesting than the illustration itself. Traumadore is right; that program is a neat find.

I have to say that I don't exactly know what's going on in Traumadore's picture. Is that a person looking out or a doll? It looks like it could be attached to the platform it's standing on. To me, the inconclusiveness of it's subjects gives it a creepy atmosphere.

Anyway, can't wait for the new theme.

Traumadore
05-25-2010, 09:50 PM
Anyway, can't wait for the new theme.

Hello erryone, I think that was a fun week. We got some generally wierder work, and that's nice. Yeah Mr. Flannel, my thing did turn out kind of bad, not enough contrast, and all that. It is supposed to be a real kid looking out the window. I posted it anyway in the spirit of things. Not every picture turns out perfect, after all, but this is about practice and fun. I'm glad the general air of creepyness came through. I was trying to go back to the kind of images I used to make in high school. It comes pretty close considering I made a lot of muddy, ambiguous, overworked watercolor things. I used to work on much bigger paper though, and working on something that would fit my scanner kind of killed this one.

This weeks THEME shall be:

Caribou

To Pixies or not to Pixies.

Traumadore
05-27-2010, 09:58 PM
Well, it's been two days and no art yet, huh! Well I wanted to bump the thread and the only proper way to do it is with a picture. I have a few projects cooking right now, including a work that is due for the Alumni Exhibit at my college next week, and a [Secret]. Even so, I can spare twenty minutes for an unplanned stream of conciousketch. I've got a spiritual man in a strange place with a skull of an imaginary reindeer like animal strapped to his face. Maybe poeple ask him advice when he wears it while they pretend not to notice it's their great-uncle.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/caribou1.jpg

Know what's better than an Etch-a-Sketch? A Streamofconsc-a-Sketch. Only $19.99 I take paypal.

Queen Possum
05-27-2010, 10:00 PM
I have a plan, but I haven't had the time. Hopefully with the long weekend I can get it churned out.

DarkBlueFlannel
05-28-2010, 02:24 PM
Maybe poeple ask him advice when he wears it while they pretend not to notice it's their great-uncle.

It's like the oracle of Delphi only, instead, at Vancouver.

nunix
05-28-2010, 04:07 PM
http://seashellshanty.net/rudolph the prehistoric nightmare.png

i figured an animal theme was a good excuse for one of these ;P body's a little too long i think and not thrilled with the eyes, not sure what i was hoping for there

Also, for the future: this (http://www2.ambientdesign.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28359) seems an interesting idea to try once or twice?

Traumadore
05-28-2010, 10:01 PM
Noted, I'll definitely start to include some "complete the image" type THEMES. Your caribou needs some partners. Also, the red nose makes it rudolph. I hope that's okay!

nunix
06-01-2010, 02:54 PM
Wow it kinda died this week, huh.

Yeah, it was intended to be some kind of prehistoric ur-Rudolph (see: filename ;).. I tried adding some other reindeer at your suggestion, and some tiny people in the foreground, but it never looked alright.

Queen Possum
06-01-2010, 04:08 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1282/4661515768_20bb249e16_b.jpg

Caribou goes incognito.

DarkBlueFlannel
06-01-2010, 04:14 PM
Wow it kinda died this week, huh.

I had an idea and was going to do mine this weekend and then my chronic wrist pains resurfaced and ruined it all. Can't be helped, I guess.

Traumadore
06-01-2010, 08:21 PM
Wow it kinda died this week, huh.

Well, let's just blame the holiday weekend. I'm not heartbroken to coast along on 3 or 4 images in a week, but of course I hope for more. I myself was busy enough that I only did a sketch this time.

This week's THEME is a very short music piece. Close your eyes and listen, then draw something inspired by it.

Paper Triangle, By The Pillows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5lKaeeBsu8)

Let's have some gun. I mean fun.

(real typo!)

Deptford
06-02-2010, 08:00 AM
I'm finally contributing again!

I don't know why the song brought to mind a new space program based around a psychedelic de-winged dragon carrying a cart full of cheering astronauts up to the sky by bounding up to the stars, from cloud to cloud, squeezing rain from the sponge-like clouds with every stomping step. But it did.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j293/ReenayeStarr/cloudclimberspaceprogram1.jpg?t=1275486908

nunix
06-02-2010, 08:35 AM
This week's THEME is a very short music piece. Close your eyes and listen, then draw something inspired by it.

Paper Triangle, By The Pillows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5lKaeeBsu8)

Let's have some gun. I mean fun.


Well now I'm going to have Pillows music stuck in my head all morning!

Th-... this is great.

EDIT: I heard this song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgkNZr7iucQ) when it first came out, and immediately imagined a comic book based on these two. They work for the Librarians. In space. Space which is filled with trains (http://images.absoluteanime.com/captain_harlock/index-ge999-2.jpg) and sailing ships (http://thecia.com.au/reviews/t/images/treasure-planet-2.jpg), and they gallavant about saving books and such. Figured that the covers would be very simple, and would only really vary by how the two characters were standing (facing each other or not, looking up, down, distracted, whatever).

http://seashellshanty.net/lbfg_s.png

I'll try and do a proper paper triangle-y thing later but I had this in my head all morning so figured why not ;p

Oscar
06-03-2010, 05:52 AM
Sorry for my lack of art last week! Here is one for this week's theme:

http://i46.tinypic.com/5a058m.jpg

I'm not sure how I feel about this. The lighting could've been done a lot better, but... oh well! It's a learning process!

(P.S That song is pretty amazing)

DarkBlueFlannel
06-04-2010, 03:29 PM
Well, umm, here's mine:

*Former Broken Link*

So, I heard the song and thought something akin to having one's head in the clouds. And, I think that was a good idea but, once I sat down to draw it, I ended up with this enormous buttocks. Anyway, I'm a man. I spell it like the Yardbirds. I can admit when I'm wrong. I may have made a mistake.

Edit: Added the clothing, so now I can actually post it on the forum instead of linking. I also fixed a couple of very minor things that you probably won't notice. Has adding clothes made it, somewhat, more legitimate? I hope so.

Of course, now that I've changed it, the duality of the unusual setting combined with everyday clothing make it look strange. The nudity may actually have fit better.

Traumadore
06-06-2010, 09:16 AM
Haha, I like this one, it's bringing out a lot of very different work. As usual I can't see Random Hajile's from my home PC, but i'm not at home right now so I came in for a peek.

It's a little confusing, although I got that it's a car driving off a cliff. It needs some major skid marks or some major energy in the drawing of the vehicle, because it looks too static right now. I love the horizon with the moon, and some highlights like that on the car would look great (probably what you were talking about with lighting).

Mr Flannel, I like yours too, but I could hardly see it behind all that ass. Honestly the many layered transparencies and intense colors are getting me to come around to your work. The nude nymph is purely gratuitous, however.

I'll have to take a little time later to check out your links, nunix, so I can make sense of you picture, and deptford brings the unbridled "what?" like always. Do you take photos of your drawings, or do you just use cream paper?

Edit: I'll probably post something monday or tuesday.

DarkBlueFlannel
06-06-2010, 11:38 AM
The nude nymph is purely gratuitous, however.

Yeah, I was really hesitant about posting it because of that. I'm glad you went ahead and called me out on it. The nudity didn't come from a notion that it would somehow be better; I was just being lazy. Anyway, I'm adding some clothing as we speak. I should have it changed within the hour.

nunix
06-06-2010, 12:39 PM
I'm usually pretty eye-rolly at naked people art, but I wasn't bothered by DBF's at all. Maybe because it was from (har) behind? Also, his style is so, well, stylised, "gratuitous" doesn't really seem to fit. Made me think of a Greek mythstory. EDIT: I want to say I liked it, but it's gone now. Good color composition at least from what I remember. And also a night scene!

Dunno about Hajile's. It's a day song to me, but you've got a night scene there..

EDIT: le paper triangle

http://seashellshanty.net/paper_triangle_clip.png

It started out just sketching a triangle, which became a sail, but I can't draw perspective (spent forever trying to get the angles right on the boat) so the boat is terrible. did a horizon, and then a big tower, and about halfway through finishing it i figured it was someone visiting the lighthouse samurai (http://www.gamespite.net/talkingtime/showpost.php?p=631266&postcount=1059).

EDIT: also, one nice thing about being a total amateur at this is increased appreciation for actual artists. i rely excessively on layers and paint-erasing and other digital trickery to get anything done, which aren't really available to you in a physical medium.

Oscar
06-06-2010, 02:44 PM
Woah, that Lighthouse Samurai comic you did is really great!

I like your picture, too. The big sun is my favourite part, and I actually like the perspective of the picture - though not totally realistic, it gives it a really stylised and kind of obscure look.

As for my picture, I don't know why I thought of a car balancing on the edge of a cliff at night-time. Like Traumadore said before, it would've looked better if I had conveyed a sense of movement or energy in the picture - it's very static, unlike the song it's based on.

nunix
06-06-2010, 03:50 PM
As for my picture, I don't know why I thought of a car balancing on the edge of a cliff at night-time. Like Traumadore said before, it would've looked better if I had conveyed a sense of movement or energy in the picture - it's very static, unlike the song it's based on.

Heh, it's okay, it was a "what does this make you think of?" and not really a "depict this!" so. ;) It's still a neat picture. I'm not sure what that is at the base, though.. a cliff? a dinosaur? a lava field?

Oscar
06-06-2010, 04:08 PM
Heh, it's okay, it was a "what does this make you think of?" and not really a "depict this!" so. ;) It's still a neat picture. I'm not sure what that is at the base, though.. a cliff? a dinosaur? a lava field?

It's... whatever you want it to be!

(It was meant to be a cliff... oh well!)

DarkBlueFlannel
06-06-2010, 06:34 PM
Random, it might help your picture better indicate that the cliff is, in fact, a cliff if you redid the coloring by exaggerating the light source. If the moon were shining lots of highlights onto the grass, the lack of highlights on the cliff region would better indicate that it is facing opposite the moon and, thus, is a sheer drop.

Traumadore
06-06-2010, 06:39 PM
Random, it might help your picture better indicate that the cliff is, in fact, a cliff if you redid the coloring but exaggerated the light source. If the moon were shining lots of highlights onto the grass, the lack of highlights on the cliff region would better indicate that it is facing opposite the moon and, thus, is a sheer drop.

I was going to say something similar, but I was going to recommend darkening the cliff face. More contrast against the groune surface at any rate. Of course I'm more of a "don't sweat it and start something new" person, which is what's great about this thread. We do a little drawing, learn a small lesson, and keep going.

DarkBlueFlannel
06-07-2010, 08:59 AM
EDIT: also, one nice thing about being a total amateur at this is increased appreciation for actual artists. i rely excessively on layers and paint-erasing and other digital trickery to get anything done, which aren't really available to you in a physical medium.

I think people overestimate the ease of digital media. Sure, you can use techniques that aren't available with paper or canvas but the knowledge required to reap the benefits afforded with digital tools is still very high. Besides, both formats require a great deal of the same functional knowledge of composition and artistic technique, to get good results.

I will admit that I agree whole-heartedly with your sentiment every time I see someone go into photoshop, copy a layer, blur it, set the layer effect to multiply, and then think they've discovered the secret to great art. That is nauseating.

Oscar
06-07-2010, 09:14 AM
Random, it might help your picture better indicate that the cliff is, in fact, a cliff if you redid the coloring by exaggerating the light source. If the moon were shining lots of highlights onto the grass, the lack of highlights on the cliff region would better indicate that it is facing opposite the moon and, thus, is a sheer drop.

I was going to say something similar, but I was going to recommend darkening the cliff face. More contrast against the groune surface at any rate. Of course I'm more of a "don't sweat it and start something new" person, which is what's great about this thread. We do a little drawing, learn a small lesson, and keep going.

This is all great advice, thanks guys! I think I will just leave this one as it is, unclear-cliff and all - the feedback, I think, will help me make my next picture better.

Rain Knight
06-08-2010, 09:21 PM
Sorry for the crappy picture quality. No scanner, so I had to take the pic with my phone.

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab229/souldreamx/Art/2010-06-08230114.jpg

This is what popped into my head while listening to the song. I think they're brothers.

nunix
06-08-2010, 09:30 PM
That's pretty great! Like the smile on the younger(?) kid up there, and of course the giant frankenstein switch.

Traumadore
06-09-2010, 10:06 AM
Oh hey, a new guy! Awesome. Keep on drawing, I like the clean lines and the action and energy going on.

So I guess this marks the first week where I myself didn't make time to finish anything related to the THEME. Wish I could set a better example, but you know, things.

This week's THEME is a poem. Try not to get too literal here, because this poet uses a lot of concrete imagery. Aim for a feeling instead. Or don't!

The Diameter Of The Bomb

The diameter of the bomb was thirty centimeters
and the diameter of its effective range about seven meters,
with four dead and eleven wounded.
And around these, in a larger circle
of pain and time, two hospitals are scattered
and one graveyard. But the young woman
who was buried in the city she came from,
at a distance of more than a hundred kilometers,
enlarges the circle considerably,
and the solitary man mourning her death
at the distant shores of a country far across the sea
includes the entire world in the circle.
And I won’t even mention the crying of orphans
that reaches up to the throne of God and
beyond, making a circle with no end and no God.

Yehuda Amichai

Deptford
06-09-2010, 10:46 AM
Ooo. That poem is good.

Gonna have to think about this one.

Sprite
06-09-2010, 10:53 AM
I think I might start doing this. We have until next Wednesday, correct?

Traumadore
06-09-2010, 01:06 PM
Actually I usually post the new topics on Tuesday night (like 60% of the time!), but if it bleeds over to wednesday that's no big deal.

I'm glad you like the poem Deptford, he's one of my favorite writers. I figured this was a risk since poetry isn't too popular roun' hur.

DarkBlueFlannel
06-09-2010, 01:15 PM
I don't really care for poetry but I'm not antagonistic toward it. This poem seems to be illustrating the prevalence and variety of emotional turmoil that could potentially be occurring at a single moment of time. The hook being that variety and severity of these problems increases exponentially as you increase the area in which you look for it.

I'm sure there's more to it but I've been out of writing analysis classes for a while. Anyway, this looks like it'll be quite a challenge.

Traumadore
06-09-2010, 01:32 PM
P.S. Yehuda Amichai is the poet laureate of Israel, and he grew up, fought and lived there. That is kind of required knowledge to get the most out of his poems. I should have mentioned it right away to give a little more context I guess. Or maybe not.

nunix
06-13-2010, 01:02 PM
so i've been trying to come up with some way to visualise/depict the everything-affects-everything-else nature of existance and i can't figure it out and now i'm just depressed, because if you can't depict it how can you ever hope to get people to think about what they do =/

DarkBlueFlannel
06-14-2010, 07:09 PM
I'm not going to have enough time to color this, so, here's a sketch:

*Former Broken Link*

I assume the idea is pretty clear even if the execution is a little awkward. I'd wanted to put a pill bottle somewhere within arms reach but I didn't put in any flat surfaces. Oh well, better luck next time.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing some other interpretations.

Traumadore
06-15-2010, 04:58 PM
I'm not going to have enough time to color this, so, here's a sketch:

I assume the idea is pretty clear even if the execution is a little awkward. I'd wanted to put a pill bottle somewhere within arms reach but I didn't put in any flat surfaces. Oh well, better luck next time.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing some other interpretations.

I hope you can finish it even if it isn't today. It would great in color.

Sprite
06-15-2010, 07:28 PM
http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss339/LilSpriteX/MarioBomb.png

Traumadore
06-15-2010, 11:05 PM
Oh. Oh my. That's adorable. Doesn't mario know these things have consequences! That's probably our first example of tangential fanart? As a short comic I think you executed it perfectly, neatly sidestepping the usual pitfalls (unecessary dialog, too many panels to describe a simple action).

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/diameter2.jpg

I did a couple more streamofconsc-a-sketches after a few additional readings of the poem. They're a couple of surreal scenes. The first one feels like it could have a sort of comical read to it (if the person was being flung) but it's an upside-down floating person with phantom birds and things, while debris from the world it about to strike from behind. I think the drawing is better than the description anyway.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/diameter1.jpg

I like the second one. Just a very off scene outside a hospital center. I thought about what it was like waiting around a hospital when I was drawing and that's that.

Traumadore
06-15-2010, 11:12 PM
So maybe that THEME was too difficult. I often find that not enough guidance can be as stifling as too much guidance. It is a hard balance to strike.

Thus, this weeks THEME is open ended without being ephemeral. There is room for humor, classic imagery, the unexpected. This week's THEME is:

Natural Enemies

Let's a-draw aggressively!

mr_bungle700
06-15-2010, 11:32 PM
MarioBomb

I choose to believe that the bomb just blows up the cake Peach is carrying, thus leading her to bake a second, even more delicious, one.

nunix
06-16-2010, 04:32 AM
I choose to believe that the bomb just blows up the cake Peach is carrying, thus leading her to bake a second, even more delicious, one.

Years later, bungle can be seen staring out the window, waiting, waiting for that second cake to show up.

mr_bungle700
06-16-2010, 01:27 PM
It'll come! Any day now. I just know it!

Any day now...

nunix
06-20-2010, 07:57 PM
http://seashellshanty.net/natural enemies.png

Traumadore
06-22-2010, 09:37 PM
Thanks for joining in Nunix, so I'm not the only one this week. I thought more people would have fun with natural enemies. So what's the train of thought that led you to the DNA idea, and I'm trying to figure out what the twin chromosomes mean.

What it says to me (under the umbrella of the Natural Enemies idea) is that we are destined to compete with those that are most similar to ourselves. Makes me think of another poem by my man Amichai, obviously about competing over a woman.

“Your body is white like sand
that children have never played in.

Your eyes are sad and beautiful
like the pictures of flowers in a textbook.

Your hair hangs down
like smoke from Cain’s altar.

I have to kill my brother.
my brother has to kill me.”
- Poems for a woman

Anyway, this was all an excuse to draw another dragon vs. dragonslayer. As if you didn't know! Barbutes are lame, perhaps. I'm not sure what the "hip" helm is these days.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/naturalenemies.jpg

Traumadore
06-22-2010, 10:11 PM
This week we'll have our very first THEME coming from existing imagery. Here is a sort of unfinished looking thing I had lying around. You can do anything you want with it; color/recolor it, remake it, paint/draw over it, do something inspired by it, something you associate with it, etc.

The THEME is:
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/Crash.jpg

And to those that haven't joined in for a while, you don't need any excuse just come on in. I myself am looking forward to having 52+ extra works a year from now, I hope that gets you going too!

nunix
06-23-2010, 09:50 PM
So what's the train of thought that led you to the DNA idea, and I'm trying to figure out what the twin chromosomes mean.

life's natural enemy is life. =/ (i almost made the strands different, but decided against it; "other" bugs me)

quicky nonsense this evening because i wanted to do something!

http://seashellshanty.net/tpic_1.png

smaller versions, which i like better

http://seashellshanty.net/tpic_1a.png http://seashellshanty.net/tpic_1b.png

Traumadore
06-27-2010, 02:50 PM
Super secret rule to awesome pictures is shrinking them, It cannot be overstated! How long does a digital color sketch like that take you? Just curious, since people often tell me I should do it as a time saver. I find a lot of people get hung up trying to make everything perfect when it's so easy to have one finger on "undo" all the time though.

Traumadore
06-30-2010, 12:41 AM
I have titled this An Airplane Full of Businessmen Crashes Into Hell In Southeast Missouri. I like this idea.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/crash2.jpg

The next theme will extend a narrative from this and maybe, just maybe, future THEMEs will play off some tangential aspect in somebody's work. It will create a chain or story of sorts that way, which could be fun.

This week's THEME is:

Passing through the afterlife

P.S. If it's just another week of Me and Nunix I will offically accept that I am not awesome enough to administer this sort of thing and just do Illustration Friday instead or something.

nunix
07-01-2010, 09:17 PM
Super secret rule to awesome pictures is shrinking them, It cannot be overstated! How long does a digital color sketch like that take you? Just curious, since people often tell me I should do it as a time saver. I find a lot of people get hung up trying to make everything perfect when it's so easy to have one finger on "undo" all the time though.

I don't know about time.. less than an hour probably? I don't worry too much about perfection since I know I haven't the skill/experience to get something exactly how I might want, and I prefer playing with spreading around paint more than doing really exact lines anyway.. I almost never use undo; instead I just use layers like crazy. If I don't like how a layer is turning out, I erase it and start over. But generally no step-undoing.

Now I'm all self-conscious about contributin'. What happened to the initial batch o' artists? =( Although I really like the theme this time...

T, your pic is nice! I love the sweep of the hills and the tree/brush lines, and the colors in the sky. The fires(?) in the hellmouth make me think of construction paper, like maybe it's a page in a pop-up book, and pulling a little tab will make the fire saw back and forth.

Traumadore
07-01-2010, 09:27 PM
Ah, cobalt blue. Heavy metal pigments are the femme fatale of art. One time my freshman year I was putting a red hand print as a finishing touch on this sort of wood woad sculpture thing at like 4 in the morning. Right after I painted up my hand and applied it I paused, looked at the label "cadmium red" and just cussed quietly in the night.

Anyway, no need to feel self conscious, I was just curious! Tablets seem to be getting less expensive all the time so I often waffle about trying to use digital ink-and-paint software. The "digital oils" look has been dominating fantasy illustration for some time for instance even though I'm not crazy about it. My inspirations have always been Froud, Amano, DiTerlizzi, I basically just love fanciful work in natural mediums. It's a tough choice to make so I always have to ask people about their experiences using computers.

Edit: yeah the fires look really theatrical compared to everything else, and I'll admit I didn't even think about it. After I drew them I was like "what did you just do?" But once again, without Senor Computadora's help you're pretty much committed at that point. I'm glad they sparked a little interest.

nunix
07-01-2010, 09:35 PM
Ah, cobalt blue. Heavy metal pigments are the femme fatale of art. One time my freshman year I was putting a red hand print as a finishing touch on this sort of wood woad sculpture thing at like 4 in the morning. Right after I painted up my hand and applied it I paused, looked at the label "cadmium red" and just cussed quietly in the night.

I don't generally think of paint as being toxic. o.O one advantage of digital stuff ;)

Anyway, no need to feel self conscious, I was just curious! Tablets seem to be getting less expensive all the time so I often waffle about trying to use digital ink-and-paint software. The "digital oils" look has been dominating fantasy illustration for some time for instance even though I'm not crazy about it. My inspirations have always been Froud, Amano, DiTerlizzi, I basically just love fanciful work in natural mediums. It's a tough choice to make so I always have to ask people about their experiences using computers.

No, I'm not really a fan of the digital-oil look either (if we're talking about the same thing; can you link to examples?), I guess because it stands out so much. I was actually going for a much more natural look for especially the tree, but I'm still learning the tools, so!

Also: DiTerlizzi! I think I first probably saw his work on a Magic card, but first became aware of him cos he did all the artwork for a tabletop RPG called Continuum. Good stuff!

Froud.. I dunno, elfs 'n' fae bug me nowadays, so it's hard for me to appreciate his stuff. =/

Ostrich
07-03-2010, 08:09 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/ultrayoshi/mariostomp.png

I'm no Deptford. Then again, no one is.

Edit: Also, I think I misread the theme. I saw it as "Passing into the afterlife"

Edit Part II: I also didn't see Sprite's Mario comic upthread, which is strikingly similar in style. I apologize for ripping off your comic, I'll have to be more careful when I do these things in the future, or at least more observant!

Traumadore
07-05-2010, 08:44 AM
Well isn't that the cutest murder you ever did see. He looks so emotionally empty even in the last panel, too. That guy has problems for sure. Your colors are a bit garishly saturated (though it is Mario to be fair), but the drawing is confident. Do you make things like this often?

I did think it was also by sprite at first glance, but I don't think anyone will be offended because it's just fanart anyway. The spirit, by the way, completely should have been one of those haunted house ghosts.

Ostrich
07-05-2010, 08:20 PM
Well isn't that the cutest murder you ever did see. He looks so emotionally empty even in the last panel, too. That guy has problems for sure. Your colors are a bit garishly saturated (though it is Mario to be fair), but the drawing is confident. Do you make things like this often?

I did think it was also by sprite at first glance, but I don't think anyone will be offended because it's just fanart anyway. The spirit, by the way, completely should have been one of those haunted house ghosts.

Man, the best ideas always come after the comic is made! A haunted house ghost would have been the greatest thing, I'll have to remember that if I do anything else Mario related.

As for if I do these things often, I do make webcomics in my spare time, but I never do comic "sketches" of random things that I can post on the internet. They're fun to make, so I think I'll try to do them more often, though I'll have to work on my color saturation. I think I have a fear of setting the slider too low or too high, and when I try to balance it out to where I think it "looks" right it ends up too pale or grossly over-saturated.

nunix
07-05-2010, 08:46 PM
http://seashellshanty.net/afterlife_1.png

messin' with different stuff for a few minutes tonight. riffing off Doomslayers (http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Doomslayers:_Into_the_Labyrinth), which is one of the best ideas White Wolf ever had, even if it wasn't executed very well. have some more ideas re: doomslayers, just need to work on them some more (this weekend got shot with house painting, blargh)

Traumadore
07-06-2010, 12:47 PM
Well if it wasn't house paitning it would have been lounging. I have to get out of work and finish something for this week. That game does have a pretty neat flavor to it, and your image kind of recalls a lot of stories that involve journeying in the underworld. Have you tried doing a toned drawing before, where you start with a middle grey and then draw into it with white and black. You might like it, it's great for images that are going to have a lot of atmosphere to them.

Traumadore
07-07-2010, 12:02 AM
Doot doot truckin' along. Here's a thing that was me glancing through some Goya and Durer recently.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/afterlife.png

I'll be posting another THEME tomorrow morning or afternoon ecause I can't think of anything at the moment but I feel like doing another week, I am dead tired.

Traumadore
07-07-2010, 03:20 PM
Alright, anybody ever draw silly diagrams of what your spaceship would be like when you were a kid? Let's go back to that place.

This weeks THEME is:

Spaceships!

I am personally looking forward to any ship that can rival mine. It has a ton of Turbo-Slaggers, 10 Nuclear Warpedo bays, a compliment of 130 Origami Starfighters in the rear bay, and a Big Cannon that warps to a bonus room!

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh327/Traumadore/spaceship.jpg

The space race begins!

Oscar
07-12-2010, 04:52 PM
Okay! I've been pretty busy lately with stuff but IT'S OVER NOW. So that means I can get back to important business. So here's my 'Space Ship' design. I don't know how this would work, or why anyone would want a 'ship' like this, but... whatever! It was fun to draw.

(Note the slightly fearful experssion on the man's face)

http://i25.tinypic.com/2h7hvud.jpg

Expect me to join in more from now on!

EDIT: GAH! Don't look inbetween the flames, guys! I forgot to colour it! I'll change it later, but for now just pretend it's orangey like the rest of the space around it.

Traumadore
07-13-2010, 11:05 AM
I wouldn't have noticed it unless you said so! Awesome to see your work again. I have to say that anyone who has studied the history of illustration will cringe at any picture that includes a businessman. It has that unmistakable stock-illustration-business-metaphor flavor. "Do you ever get the feeling that you're rocketing away on an out of control and utterly improbable spacecraft with no fuselage?" It works because it's absurd!

As long as nobody comes in with "little businessman on giant stairs", "giant businessman striding through city", "businessman on tightrope", or "businessman on ladder with missing rung" we should be okay.